if they're so advanced why couldn't the aliens just learn english, why did humans have to jump through hoops to learn the aliens' black jizz code when we're obviously ill equipped to do so and with the clock being 5 minutes to global destruction? bravo villeneuve!
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English couldn't convey the magic of being a squid alien
Because learning the language was the point? You watch the movie?
midwit
It's a fantasy universe where learning a language has magical effects on you. Squid language grants time travel. English would've turned the squids into a norf.
>NORF FC is win process
>SOUF FC is poofters and nonces
What did they mean by this and why did the aliens start drinking at 10 in the morning?
> NORF FC is win process
I fricken lost
Then the aliens should have used English to help her learn their squid magic-language more easily
Because what happens in a movie is not the same thing as what that action means. I used to think it was given that people understood this (I think everywhere in the West they teach you this in schools, that there's subtext to art), but it has become clear that even on places dedicated to discussing works of art this is unthinkable.
you can thank sanjay android for bringing the third world online
Bro a billion more poos are going to come online and absolutely obliterate all online discussion.
only on the english speaking boards :^)
>I think everywhere in the West they teach you this in schools, that there's subtext to art
Maybe a decade or two ago but the last I checked English classes had replaced classic texts with propaganda pamphlets.
I think the technical term for the US education system is omnishambles.
learning the squid language made the protagonist be able to know that her child would die of cancer and do nothing about it
Arrival is part of a recent series of movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audiences but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people." They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart by introducing complicated and heady concepts, and then holding the viewer's hand the entire way through until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.
If you didn't already know the twist in Arrival by the time she was in the milky section of the ship with the aliens AT LEAST, you perfectly fit the audience I am talking about.
There is no reward for being smart while viewing these movies because everything is eventually spelled out in big fridge magnet letters. Any clever idea is made so transparent that even the most simple in the audience will get it. It also removes any reward for rewatching or trying to figure out what you just saw.
Granted, there is a difference between Arrival and Interstellar. I think where Interstellar was pretending to have a brain it actually didn't have, Arrival has a brain that it is refusing to let the audience use.
Completely disappointing movie.
Also
>so that just happened
t. Pseudo intellectual projection
> moronic inane blogpost
just tell us you are a midwit upfront, it's much quicker
Obscurantism is for midwits. Real intelligence isn't obfuscation it is clearly explaining complex topics. What you are describing is dissatisfaction with the foundational premise once it has been clearly shown. Many terrible ideas and stories hide behind frosted glass to cover up their shoddy construction. True genius is high definition and beautiful without the smokescreen.
>They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart
Here's your (you), this bait never fails. I was gonna type out an explanation that the movie's point was closer to something completely emotional rather than any technical mumbo jumbo but then I realised that is so obvious that your post has to be bait.
>movie about determinism
>ultimately avoids the topic of free will
Yeah it's a (Yikes) from me dawg
Does it though? I mean she does decides to have a kid even though she knows how it's gonna end.
did she have a choice though? I don't think that's the case with how this film represents time travel
it was clearly an allegory to posting memes
its about wypipo traveling to africa thinking theyd teach joggers stuff but the joggers are just idiots except a few of them.
those few joggers whom learn, become in the end so depressed that their future genes decides to suicide themselves
you this film may have its faults but one thing I really enjoyed about it was the opening scene when people find out about the aliens landing. how the anxiety and tension is heightened through everyone's silence. And the small bits of chaos that put everyone on edge like the car crash
>chinks decide to try and ruin everything for almost no reason
It really is just like real life.
why did the aliens land everywhere on earth when the only place they had to land was for the main character to be able to come there? they already knew everything after all.
Their way of interaction is entirely intentional so humans have to work together to solve what's happening. That’s why there are 12 spaceships across the globe instead of one, if they just came to Amy Adams house with a simple instructional word file then there would be no one to help them in 3000 years like they wanted to.
The movie explains all of this
Its rather straight forward while at the same presenting itself in such a way as the viewer can gain a glimpse of non linear time by presenting her child as a flashback.
I don't understand the hate of this film. It was fun and crafted with just a tiny bit of care.
The problem with it is that gaining a nonlinear view of time should've had an effect in a nonlinear way. Instead she just gets it, and then only has it moving forward.
whats the purpose of knowing the future if you can't change it?
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! IS THAT- WAIT! WHAT?! A PLOT AND STORY THAT ISN'T JUST RESOLVED AFTER SIX MINUTES OF WATCHING?! I HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION FOR ANOTHER TWO HOURS?! HOW DID THE ALIENS GET THERE?! NO ONE FOLDED A SINGLE PIECE OF PAPER TO PUT A PENCIL THROUGH! THIS IS IT! THE VERY LAST PART OF MY MIND! IT'S GOING! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
The aliens biology precludes them from speaking English. But what is the rush? Events unfolded the way they did and could not have unfolded otherwise. Her learning the language the way she did was predetermined.
this thread has finally convinced me that Cinemaphile is 99% literally moronic
The movie is fairly straightforward, but every single Arrival thread brings out the literal morons for some reason. Midwits and morons galore.
English can't travel you through time. Did you watch the movie?
It was just an alien version of the Pioneer Plaque, which was basically just Carl Sagan dropping a bunch of acid and relaying his fevered machine elf babble to some clueless NASA engineers.