He doesn't kill people because that would turn him into a vigilante, which is precisely what he didn't want to become. He wanted to be an ideal for the citizens to follow.
On a more pragmatic note, if he went around killing people he'd be a target for the police.
>He doesn't kill people because that would turn him into a vigilante, which is precisely what he didn't want to become. He wanted to be an ideal for the citizens to follow.
heh not anymore, nothin personal kid.
>speeds >causes massive property damage >assaults people nightly, many of them are mentally ill >mischief >tampers with crime scenes and evidence >trespasses >BUT he doesn't kill!!!! So that's why the cops don't go after him 😀
No you are wrong and playing a word game that relies on you defining what "vigilante" means and thus controlling the conversation and definition so if anyone disagrees with you, you will pretend you are not doing this. Batman IS a vigilante. But if he starts killing people he will no longer be a vigilante but a killer who kills for selfish reasons. Killing for selfish reasons is no different than his villains, but if he does not kill he is merely beating people up for things everyone knows should not be done. So that is the distinction. The distinction is not "whether he will be a vigilante" its whether he will cross the line to selfish killer whereas now he has the facade of justice to hide behind.
Batman is not an example for citizens to follow, the idea that you seriously typed this is fricking insane and shows how insane you are.
>Killing homosexuals like Joker is selfish
You don't reason with rabid dogs. You put them down. Both for their own good and that of the public.
If anything not killing these criminals is selfish because he's putting his own sense of self righteousness above the well being of the people of Gotham. All the death and mayhem caused by the homosexuals of Arkham after their first escape is directly Batmans fault for not putting them out of their misery.
So congrats Batman you didn't kill criminals but being a pussy that can't pull the trigger resulted in countless innocents dying.
Well if you're so tough, why aren't you killing the cartel or something? Tens of thousands of people a year are ODing on fentanyl and you're calling Batman out?
>Whataboutism
Swing and a miss homosexual.
Joker is functionally no different from a rabid animal. He's in pain and lashing out at everyone and everything. You don't put him in time out and hope he gets better. You put a bullet in his head and end his suffering.
>On a more pragmatic note, if he went around killing people he'd be a target for the police.
He already is. Doesn't Gordon say he is to be arrested on sight
He's already a target of the police and can elude them easily so there's no excuse for him to not run around snuffing out the scum of Gotham and vanishing back into the shadows.
The real reason he doesn't kill these lunatics is because if he did he'd be out of a job. Dude's an exterminator that doesn't actually exterminate pests. He just shoos them away and waits for the next service call.
They don't win, they don't lose, they don't anything anymore. They're dead. You justify in your own head if you're the winner or not. Because the only voice that talks to you 24/7 is you.
>Of course there's a God. We all know there is...When you think to yourself – and most of our waking life is taken up thinking to ourselves – you must have that feeling that your thoughts aren’t entirely wasted, that in some sense they are being heard. Rationally, they aren’t; you’re entirely alone. Even the people to whom we are closest can have no idea of what is going on in our minds. But we aren’t devastated by loneliness because, at a hardly conscious level, we don’t accept that we’re entirely alone. I think this sensation of being silently listened to with total comprehension – something you never find in real life – represents our innate belief in a supreme being, some all-comprehending intelligence.
>billionaire recluse who disappeared for years and suddenly reappeared one day >almost never seen by the public >parents killed by a criminal
>mysterious vigilante who suddenly showed up almost exactly when the billionaire did >access to advanced technology and clearly has a lot of funding >active all night every night >never kills but focuses on stopping crime
>nobody in the world was able to put two and two together except that one gay
Under the Red Hood had an interesting perspective:
>Jason Todd : Ignoring what he's done in the past. Blindly, stupidly disregarding the entire graveyards he's filled, the thousands who have suffered, the friends he's crippled. You know, I thought... I thought I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt. If it had been you that he beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would've done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshiping garbage and then send him off to hell! >Batman : You don't understand. I don't think you've ever understood. >Jason Todd : What? That your moral code just won't allow for that? It's too hard to cross that line? >Batman : No! God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by that I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others, and then... end him. >Joker : Aw, so you *do* think about me. >Batman : But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place... I'll never come back.
Basically, if he crosses that line, he'd fall into the pit and become the monster he tries to hold back.
What a bunch of horseshit.
There's a difference between torturing/murdering innocents and putting a batarang into the base of that clowns skull for a quick, painless death.
not that anon, but that's precisely batman's point. where will he draw the line? sure he starts with joker who has not only killed random civilians but also targeted those he cares about, but what about in 2 years? 5 years? 7? lower the bar more and more, the threshold in which permanent action needs to be taken. its a copout to "muh no killing", but it does make sense
He draws the line at not being cruel. A quick and painless death is more than gays like Joker or Riddler deserve.
As for the threshold? First time they break out of jail. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Batmans been fooled dozens, if not hundreds, of times.
His paper thin "moral code" is literally just there to keep the game going. So he can keep being Batman and feel needed.
being dead is eternal peace so they kind of do win
>peace is when you stop experiencing peace
Not when they are burning in hell
>ImNotWearinHockeyPads
He doesn't kill people because that would turn him into a vigilante, which is precisely what he didn't want to become. He wanted to be an ideal for the citizens to follow.
On a more pragmatic note, if he went around killing people he'd be a target for the police.
Yeah we all understand batman frickface thanks though
and yet these kinds of threads keep showing up and people keep being morons about it
that's called shitposting dumbass, now back to redit with you.
I've been here long before your dad spooged your little swimmer into your mom's loose pussy you gay
it's actually very tight
for a normal dick maybe, but not your dads
oh yeah? well the jerk store called
>He doesn't kill people because that would turn him into a vigilante, which is precisely what he didn't want to become. He wanted to be an ideal for the citizens to follow.
heh not anymore, nothin personal kid.
Explain that image, Satan
its ben affleck as batman but his cowl is color corrected to be skin
Yet he kills several people over the course of the trilogy. Very curious.
>speeds
>causes massive property damage
>assaults people nightly, many of them are mentally ill
>mischief
>tampers with crime scenes and evidence
>trespasses
>BUT he doesn't kill!!!! So that's why the cops don't go after him 😀
No you are wrong and playing a word game that relies on you defining what "vigilante" means and thus controlling the conversation and definition so if anyone disagrees with you, you will pretend you are not doing this. Batman IS a vigilante. But if he starts killing people he will no longer be a vigilante but a killer who kills for selfish reasons. Killing for selfish reasons is no different than his villains, but if he does not kill he is merely beating people up for things everyone knows should not be done. So that is the distinction. The distinction is not "whether he will be a vigilante" its whether he will cross the line to selfish killer whereas now he has the facade of justice to hide behind.
Batman is not an example for citizens to follow, the idea that you seriously typed this is fricking insane and shows how insane you are.
>Killing homosexuals like Joker is selfish
You don't reason with rabid dogs. You put them down. Both for their own good and that of the public.
If anything not killing these criminals is selfish because he's putting his own sense of self righteousness above the well being of the people of Gotham. All the death and mayhem caused by the homosexuals of Arkham after their first escape is directly Batmans fault for not putting them out of their misery.
So congrats Batman you didn't kill criminals but being a pussy that can't pull the trigger resulted in countless innocents dying.
Well if you're so tough, why aren't you killing the cartel or something? Tens of thousands of people a year are ODing on fentanyl and you're calling Batman out?
>Whataboutism
Swing and a miss homosexual.
Joker is functionally no different from a rabid animal. He's in pain and lashing out at everyone and everything. You don't put him in time out and hope he gets better. You put a bullet in his head and end his suffering.
Whoa, with the homophobic language, take it outisde. I don't show up when you're making fries and suck your dick.
>On a more pragmatic note, if he went around killing people he'd be a target for the police.
He already is. Doesn't Gordon say he is to be arrested on sight
He's already a target of the police and can elude them easily so there's no excuse for him to not run around snuffing out the scum of Gotham and vanishing back into the shadows.
The real reason he doesn't kill these lunatics is because if he did he'd be out of a job. Dude's an exterminator that doesn't actually exterminate pests. He just shoos them away and waits for the next service call.
They don't win, they don't lose, they don't anything anymore. They're dead. You justify in your own head if you're the winner or not. Because the only voice that talks to you 24/7 is you.
>Of course there's a God. We all know there is...When you think to yourself – and most of our waking life is taken up thinking to ourselves – you must have that feeling that your thoughts aren’t entirely wasted, that in some sense they are being heard. Rationally, they aren’t; you’re entirely alone. Even the people to whom we are closest can have no idea of what is going on in our minds. But we aren’t devastated by loneliness because, at a hardly conscious level, we don’t accept that we’re entirely alone. I think this sensation of being silently listened to with total comprehension – something you never find in real life – represents our innate belief in a supreme being, some all-comprehending intelligence.
Interestingly, if you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same. Batman and I detest this.
What if you kill two killers?
>billionaire recluse who disappeared for years and suddenly reappeared one day
>almost never seen by the public
>parents killed by a criminal
>mysterious vigilante who suddenly showed up almost exactly when the billionaire did
>access to advanced technology and clearly has a lot of funding
>active all night every night
>never kills but focuses on stopping crime
>nobody in the world was able to put two and two together except that one gay
Maybe there are more Billionaires there. Sure everyone knows the famous ones. Who the frick knows a lot of relatively low profile ones.
That's why you have to kill their families too.
yea but im not at the point of moral fiber discussion im here to get shit done and you're in the fricking way so i win, my way
Under the Red Hood had an interesting perspective:
>Jason Todd : Ignoring what he's done in the past. Blindly, stupidly disregarding the entire graveyards he's filled, the thousands who have suffered, the friends he's crippled. You know, I thought... I thought I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt. If it had been you that he beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would've done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshiping garbage and then send him off to hell!
>Batman : You don't understand. I don't think you've ever understood.
>Jason Todd : What? That your moral code just won't allow for that? It's too hard to cross that line?
>Batman : No! God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by that I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others, and then... end him.
>Joker : Aw, so you *do* think about me.
>Batman : But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place... I'll never come back.
Basically, if he crosses that line, he'd fall into the pit and become the monster he tries to hold back.
What a bunch of horseshit.
There's a difference between torturing/murdering innocents and putting a batarang into the base of that clowns skull for a quick, painless death.
not that anon, but that's precisely batman's point. where will he draw the line? sure he starts with joker who has not only killed random civilians but also targeted those he cares about, but what about in 2 years? 5 years? 7? lower the bar more and more, the threshold in which permanent action needs to be taken. its a copout to "muh no killing", but it does make sense
But could he defeat the bar if he had prep time?
He draws the line at not being cruel. A quick and painless death is more than gays like Joker or Riddler deserve.
As for the threshold? First time they break out of jail. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Batmans been fooled dozens, if not hundreds, of times.
His paper thin "moral code" is literally just there to keep the game going. So he can keep being Batman and feel needed.
No, if you kill your enemies, you win. Batman is a moron.