frick him, jazz drumming is boring for the most part
Literally no one listens to jazz. Even if they did, it all sounds exactly the fricking same. It's like training to be the best opera singer in the world. No one fricking cares.
science teachers and the mentally ill, that's who listens to jazz
i don't vibe to 1 chord goyslop created by corporate israelites for the sole reason of infantilizing the audience to stoke the basal consumerist instincts and as a humiliation ritual for Black Americans who got reduced to monkeys doing routines on a tightrope
it's the truth. all smart blacks understood it in time too. from michael jackson to kanye. they have been the ones making the good music, as they have been the ones better than the other blacks who sold their souls totally
It is not art if it is for all and if it is for all it is not art. As an abstract board game designer I get even less attention than Jazz musicians and I'm just fine with that, especially being a Christian.
it's about being the best in the world at something that requires a lot of talent and hard work. Similar to why people speed-run video games, or try to get and keep the top score. no one outside of those niche communities gives a frick; and it's usually less lucrative than a minimum wage job. It's about being the best, not about mass appeal or money.
at least being the best at playing drums is something to be proud of, the frick are you going to show off by being the best at playing a 25 year old forgotten game that barely 8 people play
Literally no one listens to jazz. Even if they did, it all sounds exactly the fricking same. It's like training to be the best opera singer in the world. No one fricking cares.
the movie wasnt about jazz you morons
https://i.imgur.com/yxTh2q5.png
if you think hes a villain you missed the point of the movie
this. it could've been about like painting or something. the point is that Nieman breaks through and gets what he wants, and at the same time, Fletcher finally gets his Bird to validate everything he's been saying for decades. it's arguable whether either of those are a good thing, but it's what they both got in the end.
Literally no one listens to jazz. Even if they did, it all sounds exactly the fricking same. It's like training to be the best opera singer in the world. No one fricking cares.
Dudes noodling over a drum beat can be fun to listen to in doses, but 20 minutes of noodling is exhausting and pretentious. Jazz only sounds good when there's actual structure to the music.
the whole thing about jazz is that it's freed from "the structure." it's pure music. of course it's not cacophony, there's still some logic to it. to make your pleb brain understand, it's free sigma logic though
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>it's pure music.
Music without structure is noise. The noise might sound good, but it's still noise.
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Anonymous
Nobody has posted any free jazz. These guys are all following charts.
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Anonymous
i posted a brotzmann piece above
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Anonymous
ok pleb
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Anonymous
I can hear the "music" just fine. It's just that it sounds like random shit bashed out on a piano by a toddler.
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No you cannot. You are tonedeaf at best.
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Anonymous
I didn't even post free jazz yet aside from maybe that 1 piece by brotzmann et al. You're just a pleb.
have at the most classic and structured jazz piece then
jazz is music alright
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No you cannot. You are tonedeaf at best.
>me am smart and kool becuz me listen to moozic >u am dumb becauz no liek!!!
stay pretentious, jazzgays.
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Anonymous
>stay pretentious
i will, thank you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Me speak babby talk because I is from reddit
ftfy
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Anonymous
Music is a low tier hobby anyways that's enjoyed primarily by teenagers. Most people grow out of it.
You sound like a musiclet pleb moron.
Did you even listen to this?
[...] >no one on earth listens to?
I found this recently and holy frick it is amazing
What you clearly do not understand about music, because you are a musiclet pleb moron, is that it is about expression, music is inherently and emotional form of expression and jazz itself is wholly based around this emotional, unformulaic expression, hence why jazz if often unscripted, not written down etc.
It's just old people music tbh. I thought it was shit when I was young but then I listened so much music that I started to see the patterns and repetitive schlock and people being mid at playing instruments. Jazz is cool because (when it's good) it's people who are good at their instruments just doing shit for fun. Also way better live than in headphones.
Only Supreme gentlemen listen to jazz while drinking whiskey and have a cig. They will tell you how it subverts your expectations and get lost in its complex rhythms.
There’s a lot of money and prestige in that. Try getting out of your room every once in a while. Imagine shitting on something that takes tremendous amount of training and talent. Don’t be such an isolated loser.
Literally no one listens to rock. Even if they did, it all sounds exactly the fricking same. It's like training to be the best opera singer in the world. No one fricking cares.
It's the arch-Boomer vicarious vampire narcissism, everything about it, including the lie that anything - least of all in the arts - can be brute forced by 'effort' and try-harding in isolation. Talent serves genius, and there is no boostrapping it.
It fell off terminally after Hard-Bop and became an academic curio, 'gentrified' cargo cultism. You CAN find great contemporary artists in any genre, even in jazz today, it's just a lot harder than when it had some organic popularity. The movement from dance hall big band to small ensembles (increasingly abstract) made this inevitable.
People who care that much about such silly things like music are very cringe to me. In my opinion a person like him should get death penalty for being so unhinged. Before you ask what my career is I work as a Scientist for Big Pharma.
Jazz drumming, the pupil ascends to a level of technical prowess where the soul is sold over to worldly GREATNESS. I mean, listen to the syncopated style. Wanna tell me that isn't fricking God Tier?
jazz is ok but i bet you could switch the drummer for anybody and not notice so the movie is funny because it's all this suffering and hard work for some bumps and pops that you can barely hear behind a bunch of loud ass horns
a standout drummer can make a piece. but an OK drummer like in the movie won't break it. but I think the movie was about the teacher seeing potential in the drummer to be truly great and not wanting him to waste his talent as just an OK fill in
Playing? Zero dollars. Haven't taken a stage in 8 years. Health problems.
Then? Anywhere from gas money to pocketing a few hundo a night. Not bad for a couple hours work. I think about toughing it out for a couple weekends a month, but then I remember the downsides.
What tones? Screamo is cringe noise. Doesn't matter how simple your harmony is if the sounds sound like they are straight from hell. Are you really this stupid? Like I said I didn't even get a chance to hear it because it was pure evil satanic garbage.
He is acting exactly like most people do on Cinemaphile for way dumber stuff like electronic toys. The reason it looks so stupid to you though is because he is actually doing it in person instead of behind a keyboard. Guaranteed if you made a thread about jazz music on Cinemaphile you will get a hundred digital clones of him
>person takes some useless gay shit like cooking or jazz music super duper serially and gets punk rock and drill sergeant about it. For whatever reason nobody clocks him the face because he just has sooooo much prestiege
i'm really excited for this homosexual normie trope to die and be forgotten.
What filters most people is that they don't know the scales that jazz players use. So to them it sounds like gibberish. It's like trying to understand two people speaking a language you don't know. You'll never get bebop if you just start listening to it with zero background. Let alone hard bop or free jazz.
Why would anyone go through all this to learn play Jazz, a genre no one on earth listens to?
Hey jazz musician listen to jazz
I doubt it. They are too busy playing it to really listen.
based jazz haters
rock is unfortunately dead now too
now the only way to play in front of 3,000 people is to play a trap .flac track off your laptop, only on stage
genres are dead, might as well vibe
i don't vibe to 1 chord goyslop created by corporate israelites for the sole reason of infantilizing the audience to stoke the basal consumerist instincts and as a humiliation ritual for Black Americans who got reduced to monkeys doing routines on a tightrope
Edgy
it's the truth. all smart blacks understood it in time too. from michael jackson to kanye. they have been the ones making the good music, as they have been the ones better than the other blacks who sold their souls totally
he do be spittin truth doe fr fr no cap ong
I would rather be left any day of the week and maintain my creative integrity and also not be a hylic.
>left
>maintain my creative integrity
lol
It is not art if it is for all and if it is for all it is not art. As an abstract board game designer I get even less attention than Jazz musicians and I'm just fine with that, especially being a Christian.
it's about being the best in the world at something that requires a lot of talent and hard work. Similar to why people speed-run video games, or try to get and keep the top score. no one outside of those niche communities gives a frick; and it's usually less lucrative than a minimum wage job. It's about being the best, not about mass appeal or money.
at least being the best at playing drums is something to be proud of, the frick are you going to show off by being the best at playing a 25 year old forgotten game that barely 8 people play
>Why would anyone go through all this to learn to [polevault], a [sport] no one on earth [watches].
Because.
I like modern jazz.
the movie wasnt about jazz you morons
based
this. it could've been about like painting or something. the point is that Nieman breaks through and gets what he wants, and at the same time, Fletcher finally gets his Bird to validate everything he's been saying for decades. it's arguable whether either of those are a good thing, but it's what they both got in the end.
fricking wild this was 100+ replies into the thread
/tv/'s media literacy is truly in the gutter. is it bots? is it indians? who knows!
>media literacy
Frick off back to twitter.
frick him, jazz drumming is boring for the most part
The point of the movie is that a person who wasn't an abusive psychopath could have gotten the exact same results out of their student.
Jazz drumming is the most complicated and impressive of all
The point is that weak willed homosexuals like you commit suicide and the world is better for it.
a russian or a dragon?
Literally no one listens to jazz. Even if they did, it all sounds exactly the fricking same. It's like training to be the best opera singer in the world. No one fricking cares.
t. plebs
Sounds like a marching band at a football game
you must've had some really fricking rad marching band at your high school then anon, i'm jealous
i never heard Don Ellis before but that sounded great
>no one on earth listens to?
I found this recently and holy frick it is amazing
This is good for the first 40 seconds or so, before it turns into Jazz. Then it is the same as all Jazz.
You nailed it. 37 seconds is where it turns into every other jazz song.
every jazz song sounds exactly the same as any other. just random cacophonous wank played on the most obnoxious instruments.
depends. if it's plonking, it's not good jazz. it should be a bop
like, this is a bop
Dudes noodling over a drum beat can be fun to listen to in doses, but 20 minutes of noodling is exhausting and pretentious. Jazz only sounds good when there's actual structure to the music.
Aimless noodling.
the whole thing about jazz is that it's freed from "the structure." it's pure music. of course it's not cacophony, there's still some logic to it. to make your pleb brain understand, it's free sigma logic though
>it's pure music.
Music without structure is noise. The noise might sound good, but it's still noise.
Nobody has posted any free jazz. These guys are all following charts.
i posted a brotzmann piece above
ok pleb
I can hear the "music" just fine. It's just that it sounds like random shit bashed out on a piano by a toddler.
No you cannot. You are tonedeaf at best.
I didn't even post free jazz yet aside from maybe that 1 piece by brotzmann et al. You're just a pleb.
have at the most classic and structured jazz piece then
jazz is music alright
>me am smart and kool becuz me listen to moozic
>u am dumb becauz no liek!!!
stay pretentious, jazzgays.
>stay pretentious
i will, thank you
>Me speak babby talk because I is from reddit
ftfy
Music is a low tier hobby anyways that's enjoyed primarily by teenagers. Most people grow out of it.
You sound like a musiclet pleb moron.
Did you even listen to this?
What you clearly do not understand about music, because you are a musiclet pleb moron, is that it is about expression, music is inherently and emotional form of expression and jazz itself is wholly based around this emotional, unformulaic expression, hence why jazz if often unscripted, not written down etc.
Random numbers strewn together all start to look the same. Just like a bunch of random horn noises all sound the fricking same.
I bet you like slam poetry too. Fricking homosexual.
listen to this:
That nonsense trash is just reinforcing that morons opinion
Yeah, again, musiclet pleb moron.
a song without lyrics isn't a song
It's decent enough background noise but pseuds and hipster will swear up and down that 60s elevator music is actually le epic and complex
some of it is very complex? its all based on eschewing typical melody and alot of it is in less common time signatures
It's just old people music tbh. I thought it was shit when I was young but then I listened so much music that I started to see the patterns and repetitive schlock and people being mid at playing instruments. Jazz is cool because (when it's good) it's people who are good at their instruments just doing shit for fun. Also way better live than in headphones.
>all sounds the same
you must not be much of a music fan
I like bossa nova. It sounds nice.
brainlet butthole ignorant moron
Only Supreme gentlemen listen to jazz while drinking whiskey and have a cig. They will tell you how it subverts your expectations and get lost in its complex rhythms.
This. The people that listens to jazz are the biggest homosexual pseuds on the planet. They're always fat and balding untermensch too.
Listen to this album and it will change your opinion on jazz you moron:
Bill Evans - Waltz For Debby
do it now
I don't listen Black person music.
There’s a lot of money and prestige in that. Try getting out of your room every once in a while. Imagine shitting on something that takes tremendous amount of training and talent. Don’t be such an isolated loser.
Literally no one listens to rock. Even if they did, it all sounds exactly the fricking same. It's like training to be the best opera singer in the world. No one fricking cares.
>those who can't, teach
It's the arch-Boomer vicarious vampire narcissism, everything about it, including the lie that anything - least of all in the arts - can be brute forced by 'effort' and try-harding in isolation. Talent serves genius, and there is no boostrapping it.
It fell off terminally after Hard-Bop and became an academic curio, 'gentrified' cargo cultism. You CAN find great contemporary artists in any genre, even in jazz today, it's just a lot harder than when it had some organic popularity. The movement from dance hall big band to small ensembles (increasingly abstract) made this inevitable.
People have no media literacy these days
LMAO are you trying to say Forspoken was snubbed because it was political and not because it was a shit game?
People who care that much about such silly things like music are very cringe to me. In my opinion a person like him should get death penalty for being so unhinged. Before you ask what my career is I work as a Scientist for Big Pharma.
science teachers and the mentally ill, that's who listens to jazz
Hey i AM NOT a science teacher
based
noel fielding is a freak but i believe he got kinda cancelled for pretending to be the spirit of jazz in blackface
Jazz drumming, the pupil ascends to a level of technical prowess where the soul is sold over to worldly GREATNESS. I mean, listen to the syncopated style. Wanna tell me that isn't fricking God Tier?
I like how this one begins and develops too, like the Don Ellis piece I posted above it's kinda metal
u got any sax?
Hello Hellscap3r
>he doesn't watch Buddy Rich drum solos
jazz is ok but i bet you could switch the drummer for anybody and not notice so the movie is funny because it's all this suffering and hard work for some bumps and pops that you can barely hear behind a bunch of loud ass horns
a standout drummer can make a piece. but an OK drummer like in the movie won't break it. but I think the movie was about the teacher seeing potential in the drummer to be truly great and not wanting him to waste his talent as just an OK fill in
I played trombone in college in a jazz band and even I think most of it sounds the same. It's an incredibly limited genre.
>It's an incredibly limited genre.
lmao
it stretches from sounding like classical music through orgasmic punk-jazz like this
ending on Miles Davis inventing d'n'b
you may simply dislike sax, but there's non-sax jazz too
This summer will mark my 27th year as a drummer.
How much money are you making anon?
Playing? Zero dollars. Haven't taken a stage in 8 years. Health problems.
Then? Anywhere from gas money to pocketing a few hundo a night. Not bad for a couple hours work. I think about toughing it out for a couple weekends a month, but then I remember the downsides.
Was he Russian or was he dragon?
musical instrument autism is just child abuse
you don't need to take it that seriously to make good music
Diary of Jane by breaking Benjamin
>Buttrock
Buck broken maybe
Fall of ideals album by all that remains
And you have the gall to say jazz is noisy? I noped out of there immediately. Dumb mealgays.
Rock is the most versatile genre of music, makes sense a jazz gay can’t stand the idea of identifiable rhythms and tones
rock developed from jazz and is intimately related. the best rock was jazzy influenced - the Doors
What tones? Screamo is cringe noise. Doesn't matter how simple your harmony is if the sounds sound like they are straight from hell. Are you really this stupid? Like I said I didn't even get a chance to hear it because it was pure evil satanic garbage.
music without concept is boring
when WAP comes on my playlist I instantly goon. that is powerful. jazz can't do that
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He is acting exactly like most people do on Cinemaphile for way dumber stuff like electronic toys. The reason it looks so stupid to you though is because he is actually doing it in person instead of behind a keyboard. Guaranteed if you made a thread about jazz music on Cinemaphile you will get a hundred digital clones of him
Eighty bippy
black jazz artists play music to have fun and bring life to a party
white jazz artists are soulless, boring people who think music comes from trying hard and being miserable 24/7
Not Bill Evans you chump!
honorary Black
Is there a more joyless, idiotic movie about music and musicians? I doubt it.
he said the f slur
tell me I do a good job ;_;
>person takes some useless gay shit like cooking or jazz music super duper serially and gets punk rock and drill sergeant about it. For whatever reason nobody clocks him the face because he just has sooooo much prestiege
i'm really excited for this homosexual normie trope to die and be forgotten.
>le brilliant teacher but he's actually a psycho but it's fine because he produces results
this
if it's something actually important it's more understandable but putting on a small concert with your random college band group? frick off
based
>PLAY EXACTLY ON TEMPO DOWN TO THE NANOSECOND
Imagine if this bald frick tried to pull that shit with Thelonious Monk
Exactly. You'd have to watch one Rick Beato video on quantization to see how musically illiterate this screenplay is.
to break the rules you have to know the rules
What filters most people is that they don't know the scales that jazz players use. So to them it sounds like gibberish. It's like trying to understand two people speaking a language you don't know. You'll never get bebop if you just start listening to it with zero background. Let alone hard bop or free jazz.