If you think this guy was right at any point of the movie, you are most like a dumb "American" who will easily trade their freedumbs for a t...

If you think this guy was right at any point of the movie, you are most like a dumb "American" who will easily trade their freedumbs for a tiny bit of security.

Give it up willingly, forget you ever had it, can't even make it by yourself. But hey, you're at least safe under his control and in your place forever under your overlords.

How did you dumbasses not understand the revolution scene?
Not saying it's a good movie, but the message was pretty clear.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    He doesn't look villanous at all.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Not saying it's a good movie, but the message was pretty clear.
    And a bad movie with one message makes a great argument for the opposite idea. Not that this AI-generated slop has a message to begin with

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    who cares about modern Disney

    I didnt even watch this shit

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah but the movie is so dogshit at communicating this as a problem that people naturally gravitate to trusting him. Asha wants "more" for her people but her people are happy with what they have along with a sustainable economy. We don't see how losing their wishes impacts them negatively outside of one side character that gets 10 minutes of screen time, and Asha's only point for what happens if a wish is bad/vague is "if it's bad they can be stopped." Like what if someone wishes to be a literal dictator of the world and to have supreme power over everything and everyone? What's gonna stop them? Plus if they don't even remember what it is that they've forgotten then they can't exactly be mad about it either

    In summary the reasons the movie gives for erasing wishes are told and not shown, while the positives are shown and not told.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wish is a film where the antagonist's worst crime is creating a system that is less than ideal and the protagonist fails to properly articulate its failings or how they're going to address things for the better. It's a essentially an ethical argument regarding the boundaries between societal regulation and personal activities and where it should lie and is completely flubbed.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wish is a movie for what can only be called, THE SPOILED GENERATION. There's no actual conflict. Nobody is trying to escape a bad situation. Nobody is living under any sense of misery with only a faint feeling of hope to serve as their motivation to hang on. Nobody is curious about the unknown. Nobody is desperate to escape loneliness. Nobody is trying to save or protect anyone. What we have here is a heroine (and through extension creative team) who have EVERYTHING handed to them so easily that the one time they get told they can't have ONE thing they go completely berserk and treat the person who told them NO like they're the devil.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wish is a movie for what can only be called, THE SPOILED GENERATION. There's no actual conflict. Nobody is trying to escape a bad situation. Nobody is living under any sense of misery with only a faint feeling of hope to serve as their motivation to hang on. Nobody is curious about the unknown. Nobody is desperate to escape loneliness. Nobody is trying to save or protect anyone. What we have here is a heroine (and through extension creative team) who have EVERYTHING handed to them so easily that the one time they get told they can't have ONE thing they go completely berserk and treat the person who told them NO like they're the devil.

        Yeah the entire movie felt like when people support rebels to take down some jackass in the middle of middle east for no clear reason even though the ones opposing them are often nothing but terrorists and warlords.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >freedom
    Pixar and Disney wrote dozens of movies showing dictadorship in a good light from Snow White to Black Panther, was the protagonist pro democracy? No? So they weren't supporting freedom, there is absolutely no freedom under a totalitarian goverment.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Snow White
      >showing dictatorship in a good light
      Elaborate

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you mean monarchy? There is not a single film disney has made (except for Mulan 2020) that promotes dictatorship

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Monarchies are dictadorships you silly willy

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Monarchies are dictadorships you silly willy
          The western education system has fallen, billions must study

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >A dictatorship is an autocratic form of government which is characterized by a leader, or a group of leaders, who hold governmental powers with few to no limitations. Politics in a dictatorship are controlled by a dictator, and they are facilitated through an inner circle of elites that includes advisers, generals, and other high-ranking officials. The dictator maintains control by influencing and appeasing the inner circle and repressing any opposition, which may include rival political parties, armed resistance, or disloyal members of the dictator's inner circle. Dictatorships can be formed by a military coup that overthrows the previous government through force or they can be formed by a self-coup in which elected leaders make their rule permanent. Dictatorships are authoritarian or totalitarian and they can be classified as military dictatorships, one-party dictatorships, personalist dictatorships, or absolute monarchies.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              So in short, Dictatorships can be considered Monarchies, but Monarchies are not Dictatorships.
              Try again.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                and every single Disney monarchy shown so far was a dictadorship, frick off OP and your bullshit "freedom" argument, unelected leaders and citizens without legal means to question or resist their authority is not freedom, your thread is just as moronic as the movie itself

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Dictatorships can be considered Monarchies, but Monarchies are not Dictatorships
                Are you clinically moronic?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what are constitutional monarchies?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>what are constitutional monarchies?
            A form of cope

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >limiting the power a government has is cope

              >A dictatorship is an autocratic form of government which is characterized by a leader, or a group of leaders, who hold governmental powers with few to no limitations. Politics in a dictatorship are controlled by a dictator, and they are facilitated through an inner circle of elites that includes advisers, generals, and other high-ranking officials. The dictator maintains control by influencing and appeasing the inner circle and repressing any opposition, which may include rival political parties, armed resistance, or disloyal members of the dictator's inner circle. Dictatorships can be formed by a military coup that overthrows the previous government through force or they can be formed by a self-coup in which elected leaders make their rule permanent. Dictatorships are authoritarian or totalitarian and they can be classified as military dictatorships, one-party dictatorships, personalist dictatorships, or absolute monarchies.

              >absolute monarchies.
              Yes, ABSOLUTE monarchies. As in, there as non-absolute monarchies.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there as
                *are

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          No kings generally did not have the absolute power everyone seems to think they did.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          dictatorships don't have something called "noblesse oblige."

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How did you dumbasses not understand the revolution scene?
    Do you? They merely replaced one monarch with another. One who was willing to throw her husband of several decades of marriage under the bus just so she could take the throne for herself.
    Fact: Everyone in the kingdom willingly entered the kingdom
    Fact: Everyone was super happy in the kingdom
    Fact: Everyone willingly gave a tiny part of their memory away for a lottery.
    Fact: This prosperous kingdom with nor racism, no poverty, no dangers of outside threats, was build by the man they overthrew
    Oooh, but you sure got me with "If you agree with him at any point you're American"

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When tf did people confuse Monarchies for Dictatorships

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      England in its Imperial phase has a lot of blame for that, I think. Empires in general, really

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      England in its Imperial phase has a lot of blame for that, I think. Empires in general, really

      Both can be used to mean the same word, Monarchy literally means "single ruler" and wans't synonymous with dinasty, nobility or royalty, dictadorship literally means a single person with unchecked power.

      Both had other meanings of course but it's original, literal meaning is basically the same in theory.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >well, if I be a giant pedantic twat about it, they literally mean the same thing!
        Sure. Guess you missed

        >limiting the power a government has is cope
        [...]
        >absolute monarchies.
        Yes, ABSOLUTE monarchies. As in, there as non-absolute monarchies.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Both are highly subjective terms and historians just use it in different ways for different places and times so yeah.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >historians just use it in different ways for different places and times
            Because there's a difference.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              sometimes

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                *enough times that there are two different words for it

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Neither word is used in a consistent way so you're simply picking your favorite take that is not even the official, original one that is often used by hystorians to this day, so whatever.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Neither word is used in a consistent way
                Have you never studied history? Monarchies always come from bloodlines; dictatorships come from any number of things, including bloodline. That is the consistent definition. There's only overlap because -absolute- monarchies exist.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Monarchies always come from bloodlines
                No, that's a dinasty, monarchs didn't necessarily need to pick one of their relatives to be the next monarch and their sucessor could legally pick some other random to replace them as well without really breaking any law.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was right the entire movie.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weak bait thread.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing more pathetic than blindly defending a bad movie out of a moronic sense of brand loyalty is pretending to defend it only to sow outrage. At least the former think he's doing the right thing, but the later is just giving undeserved attention to a movie that will be rightfully forgotten in a couple years.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    what freedoms do we have to surrender, exactly?

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >muh freedumbs
    Truly spoken like a moronic American

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

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