i didn't know the history when I first saw the movie I thought Napolean was gonna pull through in some kind of miracle which made it all the more crushing when I realized the movie was depicting his final loss
When you think about it, there were barely any leaders whom the people actually liked during all of human history.
Why is this such a rare feat, specially in today’s political climate?
>Why is this such a rare feat, specially in today’s political climate?
Because the people who strive to be leaders usually do so out of selfish motives and/or employing questionable methods.
Most leaders start out liked at least to some degree or by a majority of people. But when they fail to deliver, their popularity craters. Unless they die before that.
>But when they fail to deliver, their popularity craters
But Napoleon failed big multiple times and ultimately lost. So why is he still revered 200 years later by not only his own people, but many around the world? What made him the exception?
From my experience the french have a kind of weird relationship with him. His accomplishments initially were huge, both domestic and military.
And the fact that he lost is somewhat mitigated by the fact that it too the combined armies of all europe to stop him, which is seen as kinda cheating.
It's like with the chinese and Mao, where they say that he was 70% right and 30% Wrong.except Napoleon only really made one mistake, even if it was a big one.
Because that movie is unironically basically just Anglo propaganda that makes up shit like Napoleon firing cannons at the pyramids, while also portraying him as a complete imbecile and an oaf that basically lucks out to the top
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Anonymous
Yeah the pyramid thing was fricking moronic, but to accurately portray his rise to the top they would have had to make like 6 movies or something. Its too much for 1 movie
4 months ago
Anonymous
If they can't do a good job at it why do it at all?
4 months ago
Anonymous
yeah I agree, they should've made it into a mini series or something
because it's harder to be remembered for doing good things. Most great leaders who were beloved by their people simply kept the status quo going and things running smoothly, maybe making strides towards bettering society here and there but nothing overly dramatic. It's relatively rare that a leader has to come in and clean up a huge mess which is what people associate with being a good leader, but that's not really the case 99.99999% of the time. This also relates to human psychology, we tend to forget positive things faster than negative things
Napoleon had a cult of personality in the army, he was like a twitch streamer and the soldiers were his fans. A normal person would think he's weird but to enthusiasts in his field he was a Rockstar.
Yep
If you believe this happened, then you're in for a real treat when you read about Kim Jong Un's accomplishments
napoleon constantly put himself in danger, there are many accounts of his borderline suicidal behavior
you're a tool just like the rest
Found the mad *ngl* cuck
you're a tard, sorry about that, now you must lurk mor
Different countries , idiot
you are such a doo doo xD
one of the best movie scenes of all time, shame its one victory after that and then all downhill from there
he wins a lot of minor victories that get glossed over, he was hugely outnumbered at that point so it's all he was going to get
i didn't know the history when I first saw the movie I thought Napolean was gonna pull through in some kind of miracle which made it all the more crushing when I realized the movie was depicting his final loss
>sorry for party rockin
Multiple times in fact.
When you think about it, there were barely any leaders whom the people actually liked during all of human history.
Why is this such a rare feat, specially in today’s political climate?
>Why is this such a rare feat, specially in today’s political climate?
Because the people who strive to be leaders usually do so out of selfish motives and/or employing questionable methods.
greatness can only appear in the right circumstances. if nappy was born under the sun king he'd just be some noname minor nobility chud.
>if if if
seething brit
i like napoleon and i hate brits with all my soul, it's just how it be
It's still a very dumb to say and you should feel bad.
>WHAT IF HITLER WAS BORN IN 1770 PRAGUE LOL
Okay. But he didn't. You worthless poster kys.
*slits your throat*
you can't do that
it works on /LULZ/
Most leaders start out liked at least to some degree or by a majority of people. But when they fail to deliver, their popularity craters. Unless they die before that.
>But when they fail to deliver, their popularity craters
But Napoleon failed big multiple times and ultimately lost. So why is he still revered 200 years later by not only his own people, but many around the world? What made him the exception?
From my experience the french have a kind of weird relationship with him. His accomplishments initially were huge, both domestic and military.
And the fact that he lost is somewhat mitigated by the fact that it too the combined armies of all europe to stop him, which is seen as kinda cheating.
It's like with the chinese and Mao, where they say that he was 70% right and 30% Wrong.except Napoleon only really made one mistake, even if it was a big one.
So why did the French seethe at the new Napoleon movie? I heard they went on some downvoting spree or some shit or giving it bad reviews
because it's a lowbrow insult
Why? What's the insult?
Because it's a bad movie that puts his in a rather questionable light.
because the movie is a complete character assassination of napoleon.
Because that movie is unironically basically just Anglo propaganda that makes up shit like Napoleon firing cannons at the pyramids, while also portraying him as a complete imbecile and an oaf that basically lucks out to the top
Yeah the pyramid thing was fricking moronic, but to accurately portray his rise to the top they would have had to make like 6 movies or something. Its too much for 1 movie
If they can't do a good job at it why do it at all?
yeah I agree, they should've made it into a mini series or something
because it's harder to be remembered for doing good things. Most great leaders who were beloved by their people simply kept the status quo going and things running smoothly, maybe making strides towards bettering society here and there but nothing overly dramatic. It's relatively rare that a leader has to come in and clean up a huge mess which is what people associate with being a good leader, but that's not really the case 99.99999% of the time. This also relates to human psychology, we tend to forget positive things faster than negative things
Yeah but it was a hologram
in the far flung past leaders needed to be sort of popular
Napoleon had a cult of personality in the army, he was like a twitch streamer and the soldiers were his fans. A normal person would think he's weird but to enthusiasts in his field he was a Rockstar.
>he was like a twitch streamer
>falling for bait this obvioghdrsus
This take