If you were given full creative control and realistic budgeting, how would you fix Star Trek?
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If you were given full creative control and realistic budgeting, how would you fix Star Trek?
Set a series in the time before Cochrane built his drive and make it a political thriller that explores the riots, wars, and other problems that Jan 6th creates in the future.
You mean like stealing elections and trying to jail your political opponents?
he said problems, not solutions
Stinky Dreadlocks?
Female captain
Time travel
Visit [current year] with a focus on a single event
an extremely preachy 4th wall breaking monologue describing the "good" version of the events of that day, versus what could have happened.
Shit on the prime directive multiple times
Ending reveals the engineer was a time travel ghost sent by Q
Q is now a 15 year old black girl
whole new crew
set after everything currently canon
enterprise Z or whatever
episodic
no rip off of spock/data/7of9/worf allowed
no "legacy" characters in kirks grandson or whatever, khan descendant type shit
New captain is the competent heroic "main character" needs a good actor, imagine anson mount without the soi.
Ensemble cast with a variety of actual aliens not just black women and effeminate human men.
A role for Jeffrey Combs is also preferable.
I'd watch this. Basically what I was going to say.
This more or less. Just do exactly what TNG did to TOS. Do nothing more, nothing less.
R-rated horror sci-fi murder mystery with Alice Eve's Carol Marcus & Jaylah who are sexualized and get naked.
a new series where the federation dissolves after everyone rejects their cultural marxism
Already happened in Discovery. The Federation is replaced with the slavers of the Emerald Chain, and only Burnham can defeat their capitalism.
Set it 100 years after TNG.
Have the cast comprised of a captain played by Jeffrey combs.
Have a terrible romance between a cardassian and a Bajoran.
>Jeffrey combs
Overrated
have a nice day. Star Trek isn't Star Trek without a character played by Jeffrey Combs.
This but every other character is also played by Jeffrey Combs
This, every character is a different alien, and he plays everyone
>100 years after TNG.
Id say the tech level is getting way too high at this point
- Cancel all the NuTrek shows except for Prodigy
- Order more seasons of Prodigy
- Confirm that 4th reboot movie directed by Tarantino, but put Seth McFarlane in charge of the script to keep it in line with old Trek writing.
>- Cancel all the NuTrek shows except for Prodigy
>- Order more seasons of Prodigy
My homie
To be aboard a Rouge Klingon pirate vessel. It'd be gory af & play into man's lost masculinity & his need to reclaim.
There is no way to fix it.
this
re re re release the original series, TNG, DS9 and Voyager in ultra HD, 4k, VR, crypto etc etc and hope that in 20-50 years when it's dead and gone someone with some talent will come up with an original idea to make it at least semi new.
hit the reset button on the entire fricking canon and all the alt canons and all the alt-alt-canons and go back to what made star trek interesting: a competent and personable crew solving problems and thinking their way out of crises
for good measure - no more fricking enterprises, no fricking cameos, no memberberries... just good stories
Maybe too much of a departure, but what about it not being federation focused? Like have it be about romulans or something, mite b kool
Total reboot followed by a new movie to introduce a new cast.
NC-17 rated
I wouldn't take that job
I'd only watch if the first new show opens with the characters coming out of the holodeck which is a set for Discovery's bridge and saying to each other "man we gotta stop playing this stupid fanfic holoprogram it's moronic and edgy" and then deleting the file.
simple
Nice Bajorans
Odo got to frick that.
actually, the guy that plays Bashir got to frick that IRL
Yea. Then he got divorced
fire all blacks and fatties currently on the show.
hire avery brooks.
I could fix Star Trek in two hours of screentime.
how?
Break all the rules. Subvert everything. Get big names, spend a lot of money. Advertise the hell out of it. Either set it around TOS or remake TOS, that's the most well-known property.
Pretty sure next generation and deep space nine are both bigger than TOS
I’ve written a treatment for a movie. It’s pretty much The Motion Picture, but slightly more action-focused and lighthearted. But the goal was to bring Star Trek back to basics. And this one would see Starfleet make its greatest discovery yet.
>action-focused
You're trans.
That isn't the insult you think it is, honey.
i like how you're so mindbroken by trannies that when you think of something masculine like action you think of trannies instead of you know the normal men who haven't chopped their wieners off. go back to the kiwi farms BP
Don’t offend me like that, anon. I promise that it would be good.
Trying to turn Trek into action adventure slop is what killed it.
The Motion Picture is an adventure movie, probably the most adventurous of all Trek movies. All I want to do is trim the fat, have some action, and a cerebral mystery at the center of the story. And no villain. A phaser doesn’t get fired once in my script.
>The Motion Picture is an adventure movie, probably the most adventurous of all Trek movies
It was also garbage.
You didn't like spending 20 minutes watching V'Ger slowly pass the camera?
Unicorn did it in one.
It’s not great but it’s the only one that captures the essence of Star Trek.
moron
It’s a story about going someplace and discovering something extraordinary. That’s Star Trek to me.
Insurrection is pretty much a big budget version of a TNG episode
Granted it’s still shit, but it still counts
I'd unironically adapt Star Trek Online. Set 30 years after Nemesis, so you can cameo characters from TNG / DS9 / VOY without aging issues. Use the Odyssey uniforms since they're unironically kino. Could use Captain Shon and the Enterprise-F as a stand-in for the player and just build an interesting cast as needed. Obviously a lot of stories would need to be retooled to more exploration / diplomacy based, but the basic premise is completely workable. Especially the Federation / Klingon peace having dissolved, and the development of the Romulan Republic. Just keep it comfortable, in the vein of TNG / DS9 / VOY and it practically writes itself.
It's a crying shame the game went to complete shit as soon as they were forced to shoe-horn Discovery content, especially when it happened immediately after a widely well-received DS9 expansion that ended with future plot hooked established that had to be dropped.
>movie opens
>huge enemy fleet, 50+ ships
>a single Miranda class warps in, the U.S.S. DudeSmokWedLol
>it shoots a blinding array of lightning bolts, yellow tornadoes, and strobe lights out of its deflector
>turns into a giant jellyfish
>enemy fleet destroyed
>audience has a seizure
homosexual
Terry Matalas replaces Alex Kurtzmann.
McMahan is given a tight leash.
Waltke has to walk around in a tux and sip a martini all day long.
I’ll do you one better. Make McMahan stand in an alleyway and have him hand out promo codes for Paramount+. Maybe he’d lose some weight this way.
But never let him write anything ever again.
Mike, I don't know why you pretend to hate yourself to exorcise all your self-loathing on anonymous Turkmen needlepoint forum; but damn it, when you're right, you're right.
Purchase the full rights and immediately put it in the public domain.
star trek academy: sexy teens are trained by docter spock at the school. there is sexy teen drama. put it on cw
Show set between TOS-TNG with Seth Macfarlane and Ronald D. Moore as the showrunners. That is all.
Star Trek: Vic follows Vic Fontaine during his off hours when no one is in the holosuite. He eventually gets bored and replicates a beach on Risa and the whole series serves as a soft reboot of Gidget.
Episodes are written by science fiction short story authors and not television writers
Modern SF/F is sub-tv quality
Do a hardline trimming of the canon, nothing after the ENT episode Terra prime is canon, period. The romulan star does not explode and the Star empire does not fall. Set it 50-70 years after voyager. Have the romulans be the de facto villains as they weren’t very affected by the dominion war. Perhaps as a mid series escalation have some threat from the delta quadrant, spurred on by the actions of voyager, finally reach the alpha quadrant to attack the federation. Maybe it’s the Borg and they’ve finally come in full force, but because all their attempts of invading the federation directly haven’t worked, they start by assimilating all the neighboring powers like the romulans, Klingons, breen, etc.
Multiple versions of Star Trek: Lower Decks all on at once. Like they do with those CSI series. Star Trek: Lower Decks: USS Santa Barbara, Star Trek: Lower Decks: USS Pismo Beach and so on.
I wouldn't bother. I'd just take the money and call it a day.
Then you would be arrested for theft.
>opening scene crawl
>Jean Luc Picard has died
>It is a period of mourning across the Federation, Klingon and Romulan empires
>But also a new period of exploration
>Quantum slip stream drives have been perfected
>Giving full access to the galaxy
>There are horrors in the galaxy beyond even the Dominion and the Borg
Is this from a novel?
as much as I like the cast of SNW this seems about the right answer
Typical slop. You may as well just write for the franchise as it is now.
>what if old classic enemies love...BUT BIGGER AND SCARIER
Star Trek's exploration aspect was thoroughly mined dry by TOS and TNG and to a lesser extent VOY and ENT. There's nothing interesting left out there except for hyper autismo soulless nerd concepts nobody would care about and that are basically unfilmable. The only avenue left for the franchise right now is the politics portion.
>according to this quantum time flux parallax reading we've actually been a different universe every since we went through the time portal thing
just make all the burn shit season 3 onwards STD an alternate timeline
Make the Orville season 4, just as Star Trek.
Kill everyone involved.
Then everyone in this thread to cover my tracks
Then myself
>this cancer is the only trek thread in the catalog
So instead of making a better one, you complain. Great job, chief.
Good
bump
>If you were given full creative control and realistic budgeting, how would you fix Star Trek?
I would embrace Star Trek's rubber monster heritage.
Bring in the blue is the warmest color directory, and make a series set during the Bajoran resistance, featuring two Bajoran women who get really sweaty from resisting and don't have running water in their cave
Picard, STD, and SNW are declared non-Canon. Set the show after the dominion war
Forgot to add that they should ignore the nu-trek movies and the destruction of Romulus
It's the only way
Strange New Worlds is worth saving.
>tos but with marvel quips
You've let a website destroy your mind.
Pathetic cope
Thats literally what it is
I've turned myself into a Tribble, Scotty! I'm Tribble Spock!
there's like 2 good episodes each season.
and then you have the troony preaching episode, and then you have the "angry contemporary nigress in space" episode where she might as well stand in front of the camera and scold straight white people in the audience, and then you have the musical episode, then you have the mandatory Spock rom com shenanigans episode...
I had some hope for this show, but it's fricking gone.
>hey spock youre a dork lol. High 5 sisters, let's go kick some ass! Shitfrick!
>if hypothetically someone were asking for plans on how to save a sinking franchise how would we do it? not asking for help haha
finish your own homework
Cancel everything except for Strange New Worlds and bring back the temporal cold war. Center it around La'an and Pike. Explain that it's Picard's fault for all the frick ups in the timeline/alt universe shenanigans. Have the whole season be about repairing the trek universe to what it used to be. End the series on the TOS episode "The Menagerie".
Normally I hate the time travel shit but using the temporal cold war as a way to delete all the nutrek stuff without doing a hard retcon is a clever idea
"Hard" Retcon? 😉
😉
>Normally I hate the time travel shit
It's necessary at this point. Trek never needed a reboot. Just clever writing to steer the ship back in the right direction. SNW already laid the groundwork for this type of story-line. La'an is the result of meddling with time and is not meant to exist.
STD and the first 2 seasons of picard are irredeemably stupid and also introduced a number or plot contradictions in their own right
Nothing Abrams and later is canon. Start from when Voyager returns to the Alpha quadrant. New Enterprise E (has wormhole engines derived from Cytherian technology) with mission to explore another galaxy. Crew includes hologram Doctor from Voyager. Human male captain. Cardassian security chief. Vulcan science officer. No Homos. No women in positions of authority. One token black allowed, preferably Klingon.
>another galaxy.
Gay
hire only white male writers and make the show about white men exploring alien worlds where they subjugate the stupid alien heathens with their insanely advanced technology and have sex with the exotic alien babes.
based, but not very star trek
>not very Star Trek
Literally described TOS bruv
>Kal-El
>El
Nice try rabbi
I stop pretending it's anything other than mediocre slop and rake in the dweebbucks.
Itt geezers are miserable racist incels
i'd use the budget to hire a mexican cartel to kill all the staff at bad robot, secret hideout and weed road productions
then i'd blow the rest on hookers.
>he's still here trying to shit up threads because nobody liked nutrek
he's literally the janny
Ackgel is clearly the janny or a mod, that's why no one can get rid of him.
>Damning
Bring back Enterprise with Bakula being bald and shit
Make it an episodic show about humanity fixing problems and working together, without childish quipping or faux-humor. There would also be few, if any, battle scenes.
Uhhh nobody would watch that
I'd start with making everything after Voyager non canon, including the TNG movies. Simply put, they introduced too many character inconsistencies to be kept. At least Nemesis needs to be removed, the other 3 have some good moments. This also allows for our writing team (composed of all the old boomers still alive from TNG, ds9 and voy) to craft storylines for Geordie, Riker, Barclay, Paris, Data, Miles, etc. In our new series we don't necessarily need to see them (pointless cameos) but we should have some kind of confirmation they are alive and thriving. I don't like the idea of old characters popping into the show for no reason, it should stand on its own two feet.
I truly believe this cannot happen in modern television. The best we can hope for is full remasters of ds9 and voy.
I would create my own show where nothing in the franchise past 2001 is canon.
The story would be about the implosion ot the Federation following it's myriad wars.
The main villain would be an anti-federation which promises peace, security, and prosperity at the expense of individual freedoms and real sacrifice for the greater good.
First few seasons would be about the commander and crew of a sector right on the border trying to keep the ideals of the federation alive in the face of this young new vibrant confederacy that dozens of planets seem to be defecting to each month while also dealing with their own trauma of the wars and coming to terms with the fact that no matter how far they thought they came the hubris of the federation ensured its downfall.
The first few seasons would be very dark, though tonally extremely close to TNG or DS9 at their darkest, not nutrek gore and swearing.
Eventually through sheer grit and learning to trust and love again the commander's sector is the first one to have a confederacy planet ask to join them and the federation.
The show begins to get lighter after this point, as the commander helps reestablish the idealized federation one sector at a time while dealing with an increasingly hysterical confederacy and an internal conflict among federation leaders that want to militarize and conquer the confederacy through force.
Peaks with the commander receiving their own Sulla moment as the confederacy invade, but they refuse the dictatorship and instead finagle the confederacy into negotiations with them.
Ends open ended, with the confederacy still an entity but obviously on the back foot as more and more systems return to the truly idealized federation.
Lots of fun filler episodes, characters played mostly by experienced and mature actors, all practical effects with minimal capeshit zoom zoom boom booms, and the return of COOM with the return of actually sexy guest stars and occasional crew members. Also no nogs.
tighter costumes and lewder shots
i would start with a mini series about khan in the 1990s
I’ve never seen one episode, but I can safely say I could save it by hiring white males that are obsessed with canon to write the scripts and ban israelites and women from the writing room and production, in general.
>mfw I see Jonathan Frakes in this new Hallmark movie
>how would you fix Star Trek?
I would leave it dormant for 20 years
Television won’t exist in twenty years
Inshallah
Just a simple series, simple sci-fi stories, no hyper woke shit, even if you have some stories with "woke" morals every so often.
No references whatsoever to contemporary culture or lingo.
8-10 GOOD stories per season.
Honestly, the orville was half-way there. They had the set design and aesthetic, and they had a couple of genuinely good stories (the cell phone one was kino).
No interpersonal drama (but professional drama is ok very sparsely), people have soaps already if they want to watch them.
Cancel all existing projects and declare everything after Nemesis to be non-canon.
Hire Frakes and Sirtis for a Titan show with Ronald D Moore as show runner.
Next show will be a Klingon spinoff following with Michael Dorn trying to reform a stagnating empire.
- stopping to make all the serie revolving around micheal
- giving more weight to the other characters who can stop to do figuration
- finding a problem where Micheal causes the problem, not the one who resolve everything
- Create a white male antagonist, mastermind, with a real background and charismatic (a kind of homelander or Q)
-somehow find a common enemy
- somehow he becomes capitain of the crew and find some flaws to Micheal like jealousy, envy
All the female crew would be nude at all times, they'd also be really hot. None of that landwhale troony shit.
Need more young uhura. She will be mine one day.
I must bite her thighs.
Orc
I agree the hair is unflattering but everything else is 10/10. And when she has long hair she's even better.
Must have those thighs.
You have impossibly low standards
>10/10
t. zoomer mutt
Also I'm 100% white. Family is straight from Ireland, been here since the 20s and my sister is even a ginger. No muttblood in me.
>Ireland
Explains your generic inclination towards non-whites.
With this mentality I don't understand how you can even go to the liquor store without getting pregnant with a black child
>everything else is 10/10
Here's one idea. I know paramount/CBS is watching this thread.
>Q (John de Lancie) is frantic because an impending threat from the farthest reaches of the universe headed directly to our galaxy. One that we have never seen before in all of Trek history.
>This threat aims to destroy the species responsible for messing with the multiverse/time because it has affected them negatively. Even going as far as removing humans from ever existing in the first place because they have mastered time and multiversal travel.
>Q then tries to speak to anyone who would listen and try to help. His peers will not lift a finger due to their rules contacting lower species. He then goes directly to Picard who has now (this time) passed away. So he heads back to the 2370's. He pleads with Picard to help but is told to promptly leave the ship.
>After a montage of visiting different captains from different periods, Vulcans, Klingons, Cardasians, anyone advanced enough to help Q eventually finds someone who will.
>Q finds the help of Kirk and the enterprise from the Kelvin timeline (At this point they are now wearing the maroon uniforms). He brings them over to the prime timeline circa 2432.
>Kirk and Spock manage to get support from the federation and are able to use the newly commissioned Enterprise-G.
>From there Q reappears, gives a quirky remark and gives the ship a boost to head directly to the threat.
>Eventually Kirk and crew win after a lengthy battle. Negotiation was the winning strategy. The condition is any negative changes needed to be reversed and time travel is forbidden.
Now there is a choice for you. Keep Pine Kirk and crew in the main timeline or have them erased. The former gives you a chance to make sequels in the main timeline with the Kelvin universe crew. Or a chance to do a soft reboot.
Paramount here. Nah.
I make it more like Next Generation but these are the female outfits and all the actresses are hot
Who drank all the moron juice?
Combine Next Gen and DS9 conceptually and focus it on necessary colonialism/expansion caused by the death of the Vulcan species that were all wiped.
Federation builds a new military Enterprise X and DS11 to conquer a previously Vulcan held section of space deep in the former Vulcan empire, before Romulans and Klingons take it over. The sudden absence of Vulcan leadership left their planets in chaos and infighting and new factions forming.
The show has its focal point on the enterprise, but ds11 serves as a hub it goes back to as nearby planets are slowly brought into federation control.
Who killed the Vulcans is a central premise of the show. Driving the conflict in a three way struggle between Romulans, klingons and federation. The worst thing the show could do is 'solve' the mystery and use it to bring peace to the factions.
>the death of the Vulcan species that were all wiped.
Frick off Kurtzman. You suck!
I'm fricking done with Vulcan's. They used them the frick up.
>more political bullshit
Remember when Star Trek used to be about neat and creative sci-fi concepts and the dilemmas they would create? Now it's just a platform for sophomoric interpretations of US foreign policy. Started with DS9 went full moron by ENT and everything since.
All of you have unironically forgotten what Star Trek was even about, assuming you ever knew in the first place.
If you want TOS style Space Twilight Zone....sure great, but what is the anchor or hook?
And yes, I'm seeking to slightly modify the heavily liberal slanted shallow politics into a conservative one. Most of TNG is bucking the federations impulse toward expansion. So creating a different compulsion for it, actual necessity instead of federation overreach, you could have a more interesting dynami.
And the best way to do it is starting the show with the sudden death of the Vulcan species. No other action in Star trek could provide both relief, you know you are sick of them too, and an interesting change to the universe that is easy to digest for people.
How do I know I am right and we should kill off the Vulcans? Just imagine a show set on a Vulcan starship and crew instead...ex-fricking-xactly.
>Just imagine a show set on a Vulcan starship and crew instead...ex-fricking-xactly.
Sounds kino
Just make it about a mid level ship and mid level crew that does mid level missions but with a focus on port calls,Each season focuses on a new ship and new crew (certain characters come back as transfers, promotions, fill ins)
I would be neat to see a season about a search and rescue vessel or a dedicated science vessel.
This ebony babe looks cute. She'd be perfect if she straightened out her hair. Any nude scenes of her? I hope her nipples are puffy.
>She'd be perfect if she straightened out her hair.
Very nice. Would love to grab that hair while raw doggystyling her.
Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no one has gone before!
>Captain
Starfleet's finest, granted his first command after rising to the occasion during a crisis
>1st Officer, Chief of Security
Hotheaded Andorian female with a strong sense of justice, some tension with the captain's unorthodox style of command
>Doctor
Wise Vulcan mentor and healer of many years
>Engineer
Big jovial Klingon mechanic, don't mess with his friends or bloodwine
>Science
Bookish female Romulan liaison to Starfleet after signing of historic exchange treaty
>Also Starring
Breen security officer. He doesn't say much but he's always best when it counts most. Little more than a hired gun of Starfleet
>Recurring
Rogue Orion trader who despite her many talents can let her less savory qualities get the best of her
>Enterprise
The designation of a line of legendary flagships in the previous centuries, surprisingly the Enterprise name has been brought out of retirement to christen a new experimental yet unproven vessel commanded by an officer in his first command
Set in the distant future. The Captain is a bodybuilding conspiracy theorist with massive charisma.
Doctor is a turbosperg and autist.
First Officer is a deep cover agent for the antagonists.
Head of Engineering believes all propaganda 100%.
Science officer is a political genius only doing this on her path to high office.
The Intelligence officer is thought to be incompetent and there for nepo reasons, but is very good at her job.
The story involves a secret society within Starfleet observing and planning an attack on a planet involved in serious political strife, hoping to use the Captain as their instrument. The Intelligence Officer figures out there is a traitor on board and it becomes a mystery as to who while on an episode to episode basis, they have various adventures related to this secret society.
A voyager like setup, except this time the limitations are pushed to the max
Maquis like crew and Starfleet crew struggling and squabbling side by side trying to get home with just one ship on a long long journey encounteringnew things but also struggling with limitations and material problems. Make it a worthwhile struggle to overcome or sidestep problems. Make the Maquis captain a hothead countered by a calm starfleet captain.
Also, shamelessly take good universally loved episodes of star trek and re use and refine their plots. So what its the plot of a good episode from long ago, lets try and make it even better.
And breasts. Sexy women in suits and makeup and big blue or red breasts being sexy.
earth human survivor of WW3, and a half singh hybrid FAILURE AND LOSER with zero ambition end up in space for ~~*~~*????*~~*~~) reasons and picked up by a klingon pirate ship. shenanigans ensue
becomes luffy in an attempt to fix the empire.
everything is their pov.