This. His name means "clever one" in three different languages: Sindar, Quenya, and Old English. None of us are on Tolkien's level of autism.
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Saruman#Etymology
I'm gonna list his cleverness just to spite you: >He literally fools the entire White Council, made up of all the wisest beings of Middle-Earth, for centuries after deciding to betray them; >He has Gandalf fooled all the way up to the moment he locks him in the Tower of Orthanc; >He takes possession of the Tower of Orthanc and Isengard one of Gondor's greatest fortresses built by the Numenoreons, by pretending to be their ally. This also gives him access to the Orthanc stone, one of the most powerful objects in the lore; >he fools the King of Rohan into doing absolutely nothing to defend himself and believes he's still their ally even after killing his son and sending a giant army to destroy Rohan up to the very day he launches his attack when Gandalf personally reveals Saruman's treachery; >Able to convince the Witch King of Angmar that he knows nothing about the Hobbits with Gandalf. >Invents blasting powder and bombs. >Creates half-orcs.
>he stole that secret from the numenoreans
not true, but if it is, then he rediscovered it.
Tolkien changed his earlier drafts of the Numenoreans being steampunk ubermen, and replaced them with just high regular medieval ubermen. Elendil and Isildur didn't have a flying machines or Ironclads. Akallabeth is canon, not HoME.
This. His name means "clever one" in three different languages: Sindar, Quenya, and Old English. None of us are on Tolkien's level of autism.
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Saruman#Etymology
On the other hand, he named the most powerful character Tom Bombadil, so it's not like every name had to be clever.
Tom bombadil itself was a clever meta fiction incorporating a pre existing character J.R.R had created into a new myth much like how the Christian Western Europe incorporates pagan characters into Christian tales like Arthur
Saruman and Sauron are as similar as George and Geoffrey, I don't get what everyone's big deal is.
Go read some Russian literature if you want to have no fricking idea what's going on due to the names being so similar.
It's also likely why Himmler has some pretty fricked up shit associated with his name, he was an edgy manlet in Hitler's shadow and he had a whole lot to prove.
Yeah but millennia before the Romans the peak megalithic Euros were in Britanny so things wax and wane.
One of the first large settlements in the world was in Ukraine.
Even when the Romans were around they were behind the Gauls in many areas such as metalworking.
True the area of Germany wasn't developed as much back then but the German people's ancestors just hadn't migrated there yet.
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Peak cope
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What am I coping about you stupid c**t?
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Literally everything you typed. Nothing you posted disproves the fact that while Rome was pushing civilization to its limits germcucks were living in mud huts
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The point of the post is that civilisations wax and wane.
The med's weren't the peak in the megalithic, they were in the classical era and in the high medieval and now they're festering again.
himmler literally had to hang out with his SS goons because hitlers inner circle didnt want anything to do with him outside of work.they wouldnt even eat lunch with him unless they had to
Literally why wouldn't they be called Easterlings? >what should I call these people from the Orient (East)? >what should I call these people from the Southern states of America? >What should I call these men who come raiding my lands out of the North?
>I've been sent by God to defend the world against the influence of Morgoth >I better use this Palantir to converse with Morgothman
What the frick was he thinking?
Remember that a monumental amount of time has passed since he first arrived in middle earth, and he had a lot of time to think about things and decided it would be better if he tried to rule knowing his masters wouldn't interfere directly.
Didn't Suaron corrupts the Southrons (Black folk) by getting the Neumenorians to start a slave trade and start sacrificing the to Morgoth so that the Southrons turned to him for freedom? Thats pretty woke, I don't see how people find racism in his stuff when he was a protolib
>villain and his henchman are named john and johnny
aside from not using eagles to fly the ring to mordor, this is what irks me the most about the lord of the rings
George
Rohanenemy
I don't have Tolkien's linguist powers so I couldn't properly him.
This. His name means "clever one" in three different languages: Sindar, Quenya, and Old English. None of us are on Tolkien's level of autism.
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Saruman#Etymology
I guess it's ironic since he wasn't that clever.
I'm gonna list his cleverness just to spite you:
>He literally fools the entire White Council, made up of all the wisest beings of Middle-Earth, for centuries after deciding to betray them;
>He has Gandalf fooled all the way up to the moment he locks him in the Tower of Orthanc;
>He takes possession of the Tower of Orthanc and Isengard one of Gondor's greatest fortresses built by the Numenoreons, by pretending to be their ally. This also gives him access to the Orthanc stone, one of the most powerful objects in the lore;
>he fools the King of Rohan into doing absolutely nothing to defend himself and believes he's still their ally even after killing his son and sending a giant army to destroy Rohan up to the very day he launches his attack when Gandalf personally reveals Saruman's treachery;
>Able to convince the Witch King of Angmar that he knows nothing about the Hobbits with Gandalf.
>Invents blasting powder and bombs.
>Creates half-orcs.
I'm sure there's more.
yea, but he was a virgin incel
>Invents blasting powder and bombs.
he stole that secret from the numenoreans
>he stole that secret from the numenoreans
not true, but if it is, then he rediscovered it.
Tolkien changed his earlier drafts of the Numenoreans being steampunk ubermen, and replaced them with just high regular medieval ubermen. Elendil and Isildur didn't have a flying machines or Ironclads. Akallabeth is canon, not HoME.
nobody else was clever enough to steal it
>This. His name means "clever one" in three different languages: Sindar, Quenya, and Old English. None of us are on Tolkien's level of autism.
Clever One the Wizard, i.e. Wise One
On the other hand, he named the most powerful character Tom Bombadil, so it's not like every name had to be clever.
Tom bombadil itself was a clever meta fiction incorporating a pre existing character J.R.R had created into a new myth much like how the Christian Western Europe incorporates pagan characters into Christian tales like Arthur
>kills the Witch King with semantics
right
I’d go for the digimon name format.
Hieronymous Josh
Badguymin
Gregori Sunbreaker
Saruman and Sauron are as similar as George and Geoffrey, I don't get what everyone's big deal is.
Go read some Russian literature if you want to have no fricking idea what's going on due to the names being so similar.
I have no doubt Hitler laughed his ass off after their first meeting. No fricking way he didn’t.
It's also likely why Himmler has some pretty fricked up shit associated with his name, he was an edgy manlet in Hitler's shadow and he had a whole lot to prove.
Yeah but millennia before the Romans the peak megalithic Euros were in Britanny so things wax and wane.
One of the first large settlements in the world was in Ukraine.
Even when the Romans were around they were behind the Gauls in many areas such as metalworking.
True the area of Germany wasn't developed as much back then but the German people's ancestors just hadn't migrated there yet.
Peak cope
What am I coping about you stupid c**t?
Literally everything you typed. Nothing you posted disproves the fact that while Rome was pushing civilization to its limits germcucks were living in mud huts
The point of the post is that civilisations wax and wane.
The med's weren't the peak in the megalithic, they were in the classical era and in the high medieval and now they're festering again.
Wax Wayne
himmler literally had to hang out with his SS goons because hitlers inner circle didnt want anything to do with him outside of work.they wouldnt even eat lunch with him unless they had to
>Nikolai, where is Alexei? Alexie and Nikolai are looking for him to take him to Alexies.
Saurojobber
>people don't die like that when you stab them
I'd just grab Scrabble tiles at random and use that as his name.
If it's a good enough system for Black folk when they need to name their crotchfruit, it's good enough for naming wizards.
Mellifluous Steve
Cloudon the Scholar
Rupert the Wrothful
I would use his first name Curumo.
Curumo Hadunda
Randolph
Ansem
just drop the S like the 1978 version tried to do
The Ralph Bashki one you mean?
Darkth Vadra
Well considering he is creating all the Uruk Hai, he's kind of Sauron's right hand man! Sauron? Man? Hmm....
Zanthum Quorum
saruman the gay
Saruwoman.
John Whiteman Smith
Professor badguy
Industrio Rockfeller
>What shall i call my mongolian race of people on middle earth?
>…Easterlings
Bravo, Tolkien.
Literally why wouldn't they be called Easterlings?
>what should I call these people from the Orient (East)?
>what should I call these people from the Southern states of America?
>What should I call these men who come raiding my lands out of the North?
There were three distinct tribes of Easterlings mentioned, two of them had linguistic ties to the goths/huns
Balcoths, Variags, and Wainriders.
>what shall we call the mongolian race of people from the orient
>orientals
bravo real world
Klaus Gnomo
Gandoamn
Perfidious Flip
Phil Harmonic
Sauron Jr.
Saruman is too similar to Sauron. I think my name has a better distinction.
PessimisticWyvernReviews766
>I've been sent by God to defend the world against the influence of Morgoth
>I better use this Palantir to converse with Morgothman
What the frick was he thinking?
Remember that a monumental amount of time has passed since he first arrived in middle earth, and he had a lot of time to think about things and decided it would be better if he tried to rule knowing his masters wouldn't interfere directly.
Doug Ripken
I would name a character Teleporno
Badgaius
Villaino
Betrayus
Traitro
Backstabe
Gandalf the wise... Gandalf the orange fool!
Hector Sinbaba
ctrl + f "sharkey"
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Isy the Isengardian
Didn't Suaron corrupts the Southrons (Black folk) by getting the Neumenorians to start a slave trade and start sacrificing the to Morgoth so that the Southrons turned to him for freedom? Thats pretty woke, I don't see how people find racism in his stuff when he was a protolib
Noruas
He's like Sauron, but a man, so I'd call him Sauronman.
spoiler Sauron isn't Sauron's name
Dumbledore the Deceiver
DUMBledore
If had been Smartledore would he have avoided getting killed?
No, what he really needed was to be Wiseledore.
Sauronx
Shartuman
In order to appeal to the American audiences
Corvid Lockholm
Wizard Badman
Hex Grayman
>villain and his henchman are named john and johnny
aside from not using eagles to fly the ring to mordor, this is what irks me the most about the lord of the rings
Saul Ronman
Sauron Man
Laufey
sauronman
Wizard MacEvilson
Drumpf