My favorite thing about this trope is that I can't name a single fricking time it's really happened outside of maybe Power Rangers. Those chucklefricks on TVT just invent these dumb things and stretch to make them seem real.
leader should correct the contrarian Black person but the contrarian Black person still needs to keep up appearances after despite getting daily correction
A show only needs a team of 3-4 as far as I'm concerned. It trims the fat, gives every member plenty of screentime and prevents the whole team jobbing to one standard villain for conflict.
Okay but why is it called The Lancer? >you see there's this character from Voltron or whatever the frick who's named Lancer and he's the archetypical example of this role
Is Voltron even that popular? Why is this the only role that has a different title? Why not call it "The Contrast" or "The Partner"?
I'm pretty sure the term is derived from Medieval cavalrymen who were often of comperable ability to knights but lacked the noble pedigree required to be the main character in a constructed narrative.
That said, Voltron had three separate remakes and a janky spin off. So there's some level of brand popularity.
Okay but why is it called The Lancer? >you see there's this character from Voltron or whatever the frick who's named Lancer and he's the archetypical example of this role
Is Voltron even that popular? Why is this the only role that has a different title? Why not call it "The Contrast" or "The Partner"?
Is the Lancer basically the Vegeta/Panthero/Raph from TMNT of the team? The guy who is almost as strong as the leader but has a personality flaw that holds them back?
Im pretty sure it predates Voltron by quite a bit (I have seen it thrown around WAAAAY before the Netflix version at least, not too if it predates the Golion based one though)
I think it is from LANCElot compared to Arthur, though that is a whole can of worms im sure actual Arthurian austists can elaborate or disprobe with a flick of a finger, Blah blah blah French fanfiction and so on.
From left (big) to right -
STRONG Guy, big axe, or big sword, maybe a shield. High atk/def
MAGIC GUY - Mostly for attack. Low hp/def, high magic atk.
GENERAL skills guy - a basic general guy, has small sword, and small shield and stuff, is leader.
ROUGUE - sneaky, steal, ninja, invisability, small daggers, maybe poison, smoke bombs, can pick locks, and shit. High speed/dex
SUPPORT - healer, and support magic, often a weak body guy or female, can be sexy. (Simular to magic guy, but less atk)
Is there another way we should redo this team?
Does a team creature (for attack or support) need a trainer, ranger, druid, summoner or necromaner?
The best thing to do, is combine the magic atk and magic support, and then you get an OPEN SPOT, for ...ranger/archer or something?
I think there's a /tg/ thread saved on 1dCinemaphile were a few player's get back at a DM by turning their characters into pimps and their summons into hookers to earn money.
this is just Beast Wars except the smart and big guy are fused into one and it also has the inclusion of the moronic guy and the brooding guy
Only Canadians watched that so it's not real
I remember it
t. Slav
I'm surprised how well the animation held up for both.
Paddy reporting in
What's the optimal size of a group of characters? Or friendship groups while we're at it.
Three, the mystic number
Humans don't have three of anything
I have a third leg 😉
three molars
My favorite thing about this trope is that I can't name a single fricking time it's really happened outside of maybe Power Rangers. Those chucklefricks on TVT just invent these dumb things and stretch to make them seem real.
Avatar.
Kids Next Door literally had them numbered 1-5.
Thundercats was just furry Power Rangers though so I guess that's not worth counting.
kek is Toph the big guy? also who's the contrarian because I feel like Zuko shouldn't count while he's being counted as part of the group
If you count the real definition of five gays gang then yeah, he counts. He is a foil to Aang.
And frick yeah Toph is a big guy (for you)
Voltron
I was watching 8 Mile the other day and they have it one to one. Stranger things as well. Teen titans has one with a few liberties
Big guy doesn't have to literally mean big. Just physically powerful.
They used to have an evil version of this trope but it was removed after they realized they literally just made it up
I wish they would delete "crosses the line twice" as well cause it doesn't exist
What is it supposed to be?
Basically making jokes out of tragedy and/or suffering. Tropers mostly use them when they want to say they laughed at a sadistic joke.
it's more specific than that, it's when something is so offensive and in poor taste that the "i can't believe you said that" aspect becomes the joke
Isn't that just shock humor?
nah that exists
it's entirely subjective but it exists
Ever seen shounen
>Avengers
>GOTG
>TMNT
>Scooby Doo
What about those chucklefricks?
This is my preferred super team
You forgot the captain planet.
Red frick off.
They also have The Team Pet.
So 80's cartoons.
leader should correct the contrarian Black person but the contrarian Black person still needs to keep up appearances after despite getting daily correction
A show only needs a team of 3-4 as far as I'm concerned. It trims the fat, gives every member plenty of screentime and prevents the whole team jobbing to one standard villain for conflict.
Okay but why is it called The Lancer?
>you see there's this character from Voltron or whatever the frick who's named Lancer and he's the archetypical example of this role
Is Voltron even that popular? Why is this the only role that has a different title? Why not call it "The Contrast" or "The Partner"?
I'm pretty sure the term is derived from Medieval cavalrymen who were often of comperable ability to knights but lacked the noble pedigree required to be the main character in a constructed narrative.
That said, Voltron had three separate remakes and a janky spin off. So there's some level of brand popularity.
I disagree with the whole five man band concept, the the Lancer is a trope that definitely exists.
the Lancer is defined by their relationship to the Leader and their sole purpose is to have a flaw that prevents them being the defacto leader
Is the Lancer basically the Vegeta/Panthero/Raph from TMNT of the team? The guy who is almost as strong as the leader but has a personality flaw that holds them back?
Kinda- the Lancer is not always the immediate rival of the leader, but they are almost always the whiny contrarian butthole of the team.
Im pretty sure it predates Voltron by quite a bit (I have seen it thrown around WAAAAY before the Netflix version at least, not too if it predates the Golion based one though)
I think it is from LANCElot compared to Arthur, though that is a whole can of worms im sure actual Arthurian austists can elaborate or disprobe with a flick of a finger, Blah blah blah French fanfiction and so on.
The only super teams I like don't have that dynamic.
LOL you watch Youtubers with bad art
>LOL you watch israeli Youtubers with bad art
Fixed it
Is this a /tg/ thread in disguise?
From left (big) to right -
STRONG Guy, big axe, or big sword, maybe a shield. High atk/def
MAGIC GUY - Mostly for attack. Low hp/def, high magic atk.
GENERAL skills guy - a basic general guy, has small sword, and small shield and stuff, is leader.
ROUGUE - sneaky, steal, ninja, invisability, small daggers, maybe poison, smoke bombs, can pick locks, and shit. High speed/dex
SUPPORT - healer, and support magic, often a weak body guy or female, can be sexy. (Simular to magic guy, but less atk)
Is there another way we should redo this team?
Does a team creature (for attack or support) need a trainer, ranger, druid, summoner or necromaner?
The best thing to do, is combine the magic atk and magic support, and then you get an OPEN SPOT, for ...ranger/archer or something?
The classic five man band is also the perfect adventuring party.
Fixed
I think there's a /tg/ thread saved on 1dCinemaphile were a few player's get back at a DM by turning their characters into pimps and their summons into hookers to earn money.
They're too oddball for that.