>I'll waste you and a billion like you before I let any power rival America's

>I'll waste you and a billion like you before I let any power rival America's
what did he mean by this?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    American Exceptionalism put to the ultimate test. It's the same sort of shtick Funny Valentine had, America has to be number one no matter the cost.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's not what that term means

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trying to say American Supremacy lmao, got my brain turned around. Exceptionalism is shit like first in the Olympics or landing on the moon first right?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          American Exceptionalism is just the idea that the US is special somehow, that it's people are naturally better by virtue of being American

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            OH! Okay that's kinda what I meant Anon, see their whole shtick isn't that SUPERPOWERS LE BAD. It's that America should have it above all others because America Le Good and that others shouldn't be able to leverage themselves against America. DCAU Cadmus was founded on that you can't trust superheroes to act in the USA's best interest. Superheros v Government.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the thing with regards to politics(even politics you disagree with), It requires smart people to portray it, for example the main writer of Deus Ex actually read books and wrote books and for The New York Times. Throughout Deus Ex you can find numerous snippets and references to real books. When the guy wrote China as being controlled by the mafia, the Chinese preferring that to the dictatorship of the Illuminati and ultimately faced JC (and the player) with the inevitable decision to side with the mafia (even though it goes against JC's morality) and later on to replace them with an AI; he was showing nuance because he understood the whole point is that there was no "right" side on that particular story because it was merely exploring ideas in a dystopic setting. The 30-something that wrote "ugh, capitalism am I right?" on the other hand is making a political statement. That's as far as his political views go because xe has never read a single book on xer life besides (maybe) Harry Potter and (maybe) overviews of mandatory highschool/college literature to make half-assed reports. These writers are stupid and completely empty of any real ideas. All they think they know comes from social media and political talking heads. They latch onto whatever stupid idea is gaining traction and assume it is inherently good because they have the mental capacity of an 11-year old and see the world as good vs evil. They're just fricking incompetent.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, it's a 20 year old show.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The message of your post is correct, but for goodness sake, please learn how to structure your writing a little better.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When the guy wrote China as being controlled by the mafia
      As in "communism is a criminal organisation" or actually controlled by the triads?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another example is Frank Miller and Alan Moore. Although I disagree with both of their politics, I like both of their works, and it's obvious that they both have a good frame of reference in the media and books they engage with, as well as lived and varied experiences, and are generally good writers.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The 30-something that wrote "ugh, capitalism am I right?" on the other hand is making a political statement.
      It is possible to be well-versed in literature and history and still arrive at this conclusion

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is this thread about the Shaggy Man get into politics. God I'm mad about post-Weisman/Bates Eiling being ruined

      >This is the thing with regards to politics(even politics you disagree with), It requires smart people to portray it, for example the main writer of Deus Ex actually read books and wrote books and for The New York Times

      This still is and has been for years one of the bigger problems with comics writing. It seems like very few of them are doing that kind of work and research. The writer version of artists learning to draw by copying comics and not by studying anatomy and whatever

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >episode called Patriot Act
    a bit on the nose, don't you think?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They still havent reappealed the Patriot Act twenty years later. God, George Bush was Dick Cheney's perfect stooge. The man was born to be a useful idiot.

      • 4 months ago
        SUPER AGGRO CRAG

        yeah, cuz the law expired under trump since unlike obama he didn't feel the need to push for it to be extended

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://epic.org/issues/surveillance-oversight/patriot-act/
          >The Patriot Act was written with “sunset” provisions requiring Congress to re-authorize the program every few years. Although the Act expired in March, 2020 without being reauthorized, federal law enforcement agencies retain most of the authorities granted by the act. The surveillance infrastructure that the Patriot Act created exists to this day. The Patriot Act is a prominent example of the use of terrorism to justify expanding government surveillance.
          https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/fisa-reform-and-reauthorization-act-biggest-expansion-government
          Fair enough Anon but you know I mean dismantling the USA's spying network on its civilians. Like the consequences still exist even if the act itself isnt the direct cause anymore.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was always amazing how the same Republicans who consistently scream about surveillance, are the same ones that passes the massive expansion of government surveillance in 2001. And the R voters who scream about government oversight, cheered them on the entire time when Dubya signed it.

            Obama was not the one who initiated wire tapping everyone's phone and set up listeners to spy on citizens and political rivals, he just came in and got to play with all the toys the neocons built for him a decade earlier.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              It really isn't, playing both sides of the aisle and whining when you're now on the end of your exact rhetoric/smugly taking advantage of what you deemed unfair is par the course for the neocon/lib dynamic. The homosexuals supposedly in support of free speech are all too happy to chuck any Anti-Isralis under the bus without an ounce of reflection while those same people a week prior were gleefully trying to deplatform anyone they didn't have full control of.

              >The 30-something that wrote "ugh, capitalism am I right?" on the other hand is making a political statement.
              It is possible to be well-versed in literature and history and still arrive at this conclusion

              I think his point is more the lack of content in said statement. The difference between writing a story where the failings of Capitalism are explored and made apparent compellingly and organically vs jamming awkwardly worded graffiti into your video game remake.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think his point is more the lack of content in said statement
                And that's a valid point, but difference between JC having paragraph-long conversations with NPCs and something like pic related is the latter being a joke, albeit one that is smarmy as frick and relies on you having the same politics as the creator. It isn't meant to be some scathing critique of capitalism meant to sway the players and doesn't relate to the themes of the story in anyway because it isn't the goal

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bush wasn't some idiot patsy, he came from a political dynasty that's been pushing shit like that for years. His dad is one of the reasons we sold all our manufacturing to China, right after fricking Tiananmen Square too. Frick the Bushes.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          He kinda was, he wanted to be an education president and was legit reading books to kids when 9/11 happened and for a while let Cheney make a lot of decisions because he had more experience with this shit. He's definitely complicit with so much bullshit but didn't directly ask for what happened to him given he was caught on the biggest outcry for warhawking and support for the government since Pearl Harbor.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is that why he completely fricked the education system?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          wasn't that Nixon and Kissinger though?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            They opened the doors, Bush Sr. and Clinton is when domestic manufacturing left en masse

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's the issue with the presidency when you're a great power. Each president and the people in their administration have their own grand plans, only for all that go down the drain when a new guy is selected, Here's an example
              Richard Nixon had a very Anglo-centric view of world politics. He believed in concepts like spheres of influence. His successor Ford followed this philosophy; Jimmy Carter was moralistic and rejected the Nixon Administration's idea of realpolitik, Carter instead believed that the United States should frame its foreign policy within moralistic terms. One case is when he persuaded the Shah of Iran to relinquish power and not commit mass killings on the protestors, which ultimately led to the mullahs taking power and he did partially re-start tensions with the Soviets as well.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >George is a good boy he dindu nuffin

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          He still is a war criminal (Obama too) but yeah, you can still be a horrible person and the puppet of somebody even worse like Dick Cheney.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They still havent reappealed the Patriot Act twenty years later. God, George Bush was Dick Cheney's perfect stooge. The man was born to be a useful idiot.

      They were the best representation of America.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't remember this episode of The West Wing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >get kids to google “Patriotic Act”
      >red pills a bunch of 12 year olds
      Pretty fricking based if you ask me.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just watched this last night, are you me?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      look up collective consciousness

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Shaggy man
    >bald with stubble

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        How contrived

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look up the episode date to see what they meant by this.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Employing cruel and immortal tactics to maintain your nation's hegemony is justifiable. Because if your enemies (eg Russia, China) had your spot, they would do much worse to you

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The thing is, the natural state of the world is regional powers. Russia wanting to govern Central Asia and Eastern Europe is a national right, same with Iran and West and South Asia. The unnatural order is the superpower and global hegemony. It has been a net negative for humanity and civilization as a whole

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It has been a net negative for humanity and civilization as a whole
        American hegemony has seen the most peaceful and affluent era than any other in human history. How is a bunch of regional shitholes trying to flex on weaker neighboring shitholes a net positive for the world?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm talking about in matters of spirituality, religious and civilization, regional regional powers competing against each other further human progress, nation and religious identity for all parties.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >American hegemony has seen the most peaceful and affluent era than any other in human history.
          hahahahaha

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's been great for liberals

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably because the US was successful in absorbing and pacifying it's neighbors into their empire. Then it got to work only half giving a shit about other nations of the world.

          Everyone else remains in a near constant state of aggression with their immediate border nations, and slight insurgency or just lots of bad blood with nations they historically absorbed a century or two earlier. No one in europe or Asia is going to get past their history long enough to make a settled, comfortable nation that gets to work on soft hegemony for the rest of the globe.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >only half giving a shit about other nations of the world
            Tbf, most of the nations don't have much to care about.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's great that they never had him on the show ever again. You'd think a 5 star general turned into a monster would come up again.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same for Amazo, dude is literally a god robot who can do almost anything but jobs to Chaos Magic once and fricks off for the rest of the show.

      Is that why he completely fricked the education system?

      Yeah, No Child Left Behind was one of his babies and managed to turn schools into teach to test hellholes because he wanted to prioritize education but went about it in the most ineffectual way.

      I mean, he wasn't completely wrong in his thinking.

      I mean the whole point of JLU was that superheroes are inherently idealistic, even if the Justice League was banned the superheroes would still do good no matter what because that's what they believed in.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, he wasn't completely wrong in his thinking.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man I liked JLU but a lot of the times Timm and Dini were up their asses trying to make it SMART.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, I like the idea of superheroes vs the government. See a lot of Japanese shit inherently make superheroes an organizational society with like rankings and systems and shit but western stuff understands that superheroes are inherently an anti authoritarian idea at its core. That one guy or a group of people can stop bad people from doing bad shit, that somebody can stop a natural disaster or an act of god. Like JLU tackles that aspect for all its worth by having the Justice League as a concept for its authority and power questioned and challenged. Its good for what it is.

      How is this thread about the Shaggy Man get into politics. God I'm mad about post-Weisman/Bates Eiling being ruined

      >This is the thing with regards to politics(even politics you disagree with), It requires smart people to portray it, for example the main writer of Deus Ex actually read books and wrote books and for The New York Times

      This still is and has been for years one of the bigger problems with comics writing. It seems like very few of them are doing that kind of work and research. The writer version of artists learning to draw by copying comics and not by studying anatomy and whatever

      Lol, its my bad bring up Bush.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're too dumb to even research the fact that Dini barely worked on JL, only contributing like one or two episodes.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hulk ass motherfricker

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    New Frontier was better

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like Cinemaphile Jiren

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