I'm fully convinced that anyone who supports this movie is either a massive hypocrite or bootlicking to get a higher place in animation. Everything that people criticize modern media for is in this movie times a thousand. So much for "A step in the right direction." When it's a billion dollar move in the wrong direction.
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>A step in the right direction.
true if we are talking only about movies based on vidya
It's an okay movie. It's just that circumstances made it explode in popularity. Blame woke shit for making us so starving for proper entertainment that we held this mediocre movie over our heads.
>woke
Not leftist, just so fed up with hearing that word 1000 times a day, it means nothing and only dumbs down discourse
Because SpongeBob memes always improve a debate.
I'm more laughing at you
You Redditards really need to suicide en masse.
Yes, your site's imploding. But don't bring your moronation over here.
>NoT lEfTiSt, jUsT
Frick. Off.
Ok rightoid
You're crying and freaking out because you can't handle the sad life you've resigned yourself to, being a male indoctrinated into wokeness to participate in animation.
And get better comebacks, I literally made a better version of spider-verse (the crown israeliteel of the industry) and you're still doing this pitiful behavior. If you can't do better, zip your lips
>I literally made a better version of spider-verse
Where's the movie/video?
>I HAVE to like this minions-tier lukewarm turd because a better cartoon might have black people in it!
you're a huge soft homosexual who thinks advertising is culture and is afraid to engage with real art because you're too terrified of even low, pop art
If you needed a copy of this pic you should just have said so!
Be prepared nintedrone, ATSP will make way more money Mario.
Save my post.
This movie is exactly like the emoji movie and yet people think that this is good just because it has Mario in it.
That tells us that the plot of the Emoji Movie works better for Mario.
The emoji movie is shit though.
Literally.
there's a talking turd in the emoji movie voiced by Patrick Stewart
I don't know what it's about, it doesn't matter what it's about. What matters is that there's a talking turd in it just like the movie is a talking turd.
Are you that sharktalegay guy?
>game based movie
😐
>game based movie, japan
:0
>Illumination
>Japan
this is true.
A lot of the people who watched the mario movie and liked it probably also liked the Resident Evil movies. I don't have stats for that, but the same general audience seems to like both.
The Resident Evil movies are so-bad-they're-good territory.
thats amazing
The idea is cool, they're so fast that they can move out of the way before their opponent pulls the trigger. But it was executed poorly.
>They just start breakdancing at one point
Beautiful
Massive hypocrisy and bootlicking from industry people for sure, I genuinely believe "animation fans" actually have no taste though.
Can you cite some examples in the movie for us, OP?
>Constant nostalgia references in lieu with an actual plot
>Constant self aware quips and humor
What do you mean by nostalgia pandering? Do you mean iconography that is consistent with the brand image that hasn’t changed since its inception?
When in the movie does it express self awareness? I assume you’re implying 4th wall breaks.
The Lego movie had tons of references but guess what the difference is? It was used for the plot and characters. Mario movie was just
>"Hey look it's something from Mario, please clap."
References are not substantive.
They did use a bunch of references for the plot. What the frick are you on.
Name one.
Karts
they literally could have gotten from point A to point B in any way. Yoshis. A fricking crane. Just giving that to the Kong's arbitrarily barely counts as a plot.
you know what? fair. Let's differentiate between "plot" and "story". One is like connecting arbitrary dots on a graph. The other makes some semblance of fricking sense and usually has emotional stakes when good. We both know which one of those this movie had.
How is him explaining how it doesn't count to the plot, moving the goal posts?
He's not. He's saying that it doesn't count because the reference they used could be accomplished by anything (including using other Mario references), so somehow it doesn't count.
Karts were dumb though. Yoshis, Cranes, even an aeroplane would at least be thematically consistent.
Load them in a giant cannon and fire them at Bowser's castle like what you do in Super Mario World.
>they could have chosen any myriads of references to accomplish this goal
>they chose one reference that still is a reference
>still a reference
idk if you've ever played the games or looked at a video game before but Mario Kart is a spinoff/crossover, not even mentioned in the normal mario games.
Because yknow
It's about these characters coming together to have a silly kart race
Mark Kart is a best selling series and has a ride at the Universal theme park. That’s why it was in the movie.
It’s also their alternative to an army having tanks, and is a literal pun on the term grease monkey
>Warp Zones
>Power Ups
>Level Composition
>Trial and error
>The fricking song from the Super Show
It was cringe at some points but it cannot be argued game elements were integrated into the plot.
>game elements
>Super Show
Super Show also uses game elements so it counts.
powerups
>It was used for the plot and characters. Mario movie was just
>>"Hey look it's something from Mario, please clap
Tell me how the frame of bionicle forwarded the plot.
>BRAND MOVIE INCLUDED THINGS FROM BRAND
The problem is that these things from the brand are only used for references and not anything that helps move the plot forward. Try actually addressing the argument instead of strawmanning.
Everything included the movie either helped world building or advance the plot forward you dumbass
Name one thing.
Because there's no substance to them other than "Look it's that thing!"
Power up boxes are used to accelerate Mario and other characters abilities in the fight against Bowser
Rainbow Road and karts were meant to help get the army back to the Mushroom Kingdom quicker
Entire design of Mushroom Kingdom introduced Mario to how obstacle-course like this world was compared to New York
Well except the extended dog sequence, I liked the movie and even I won't defend that shit.
The dog sequence is dumb but there’s no doubt miyamoto insisted on it because a dog attack was an incident in his childhood he mentions a lot
Why are references inherently bad for you anyway?
This homie thinks the references aren't used in the plot, but we don't know what the frick he means. Getting the Kong Army to help them is a reference to Donkey Kong. Fire flowers, Tanuki suits, the fricking star--the main plot point--are references to the powerups. The rainbow road sequence is a reference to Mario Kart. Like who the frick knows what he wants.
>Like who the frick knows what he wants
He doesn't want things from the Mario franchise in the Mario movie.
>Strawman again
No, I want to see a film that's actually good and uses its references to help the plot move forward rather than just having them on their own so the audience can onions face at each one of them.
Just admit you’re not a fan of mario. Its not that fricking hard. You don’t have to do the moronic Cinemaphile thing and try to come up with “objective” reinforcement for your subjective tastes.
I'm sorry that you don't like me questioning and critiquing an otherwise bad movie. May I ask, what brand of autism you suffer from?
Mario’s plumbing business is what gets him to the mushroom kingdom in the first place
Warp zones establish a solid border between the real world and mushroom kingdom
Other kingdoms help illustrate bowsers advancement and potential threat to their entire world
Yoshis island is obviously world building for what’s heavily implied to be a key element in the sequel
You're missing the bigger picture. The entire movie is literally NOTHING but those references. The entire movie exists to push those reference. The movie doesn't use the references to move the plot forward, the plot revolves around the references.
>I-it doesn't count!
have a nice day.
>There is no difference between a film having references and references being the entire point of the film
>The mushroom kingdom shouldn't be on a mario movie
>Dude, le epic greentext strawmanning xDD
Yes, icons, not actual substantive things that the movie could have focused more on.
Why do you keep saying the Mario movie should’ve focused on other things, but have yet to elaborate what sort of things you’d want the movie to do instead?
I wanted it to make it's references diegetic. That is to say, the movie doesn't use them to build it's world, it uses them because the audience outside of that world is familiar with them.
What parts in the movie particularly bothered you in this regard, and how would you write it differently?
Based on what the idiot is saying, I really don't think he watched the movie.
Now hold on let’s give the anon a chance and see how they’d do the Mario movie
>Make the setting of Brooklyn entirely in the 80s rather than a modern setting with sparsely 80s aesthetic
>Make Foreman Spike the dramatic parallel to Bowser rather than forgetting about him until a small cameo near the end.
>Actually introduce and properly set up the characters with origin stories rather than immediately assuming the audience knows about them
This is basically a movie with known commodities rather than telling a story with those commodities
he aint cookin guys
Why would Brooklyn need to be in the 80s? Also, this movie is the Mario Bros’ origin story. It’s how they became the Super Mario Bros. Also, Peach got that flashback to explain how a human is the ruler of the Mushroom Kingdom.
Because that's a lot better than just going
>Hey here's mario in the modern times.
>Let's just throw in the occasional 80s reference.
The NES came out in the 80s and put Nintendo on the map for life, that’s why.
Ah, so you admit then that the movie is only serving references for the brand, not using them to build it's story?
That doesn't make sense.
>Mariotard doesn't understand basic writing
I assumed so.
How about you share it with the class?
Learn it first so we can have a conversation.
Asking is a good way to learn.
God you're stupid.
You’re calling established icons and rules of the Mario world “references,” shut the frick up
>the plot of the mario movie is written to function around how the established mario universe works
stop moving the goal post
>>the plot of the mario movie is written to function around how the established mario universe works
Isn't that shitty that the movie can't build it's own world it's own rather than having to rely on references that only diehard fans will know?
You want the live action Mario movie. It did exactly what you want the animated Mario movie to be. Go watch that.
No one likes a pretentious nerd.
All of the "self-aware quips" came from Mario and Luigi, who don't belong there. Every other character never does it.
A movie about a franchise containing elements from said franchise is completely different from something like that game from the Rick and Morty guy shoving references to other things in your face. And stuff like posters in the background do not make the plot worse in anyway.
>Constant self aware quips and humor
Fricking Teen Titans Go directing this, of fricking course
They did not lampshade or meta any of their videogame logic. It's just there and taken as is.
This movie was what people wanted from a video game movie. Other studios should take note when they want to make a video game movie. Don't ask if it makes sense. Just go with it.
whelp, i got bad news about gulliermo del toro then
He's a cuck now. What he gets for denying the Lord Jesus Christ
>He's a cuck
Unlike you, right guy?
I just pirated it today.
There is only one Mario movie. Fight me.
That one was bad too, but only because it's really boring. The new one may be garbage but at least it's fun garbage, and much shorter too.
It's popular because it's Mario.
It was a pretty good movie, I expected much worse.
I wish it had more action and it wasnt all crammed into mario kart
But in the end the brotherly bond was really good and the best part
Peach was boring and out of character but I didnt hate her
Illumination is my least favourite mainstream animation studio, but I will say I liked this movie more than any other one of their films. However, I think if I wasn't a fan of Mario, I would view it in the same way as the rest of their junk.
Or maybe we just always liked Mario franchise since childhood.
And you’re just a butthurt anon.
You were probably still unused sperm when the Super Mario Bros SuperShow came out in 1989.
Fricking zoomer.
>Everything that people criticize modern media for is in this movie times a thousand
Well that can't be right as the film is good. Unlike most modern media.
It was a step in the right direction for vidya movies despite it's flaws. Tell me how many other vidya mascot theatrical movies are good movies while also respecting the franchise's iconography and elements
>inb4 but Peach
she was a frick up but not to catastrophic proportions like we could have expected, and the movie is much more than her
What exactly am I being hypocritical about when I say I like this anon?
Lol YMS was right, morons really can't handle this movie being called bad.
go have sex with dogs some more
>Listening to an actual homosexual furry from Canada
>Road trip that went all in with the visuals
>Fish out of water male main character with a bad ass female character
>Both a "real world" and an alterative world along with a world that needs to be saved
>Male character becomes the "ultimate power up"
>Both extremely recognizable as a form of their marketing
>Both stories are garbage
>Bad jokes
Why did the mario movie copy the emoji movie?
Because it was an okay story but it didn't had an icon strong enough to convince the audience to go through the plot.
Until now
People want solid pulpy entertainment, not lame subversive shit. Play shit straight and you’ll get a better reaction than the alternative.
It should be a good thing that the movie looks like the games. Why would you want to make it different?
People don't, which is why videogame movies always bombed in the past. With Sonic and now Mario where the characters actually look like the videogame characters, we're seeing that the audience do want faithful adaptations.
I’d rather the Sonic movie take after the Genesis titles than any of the later shit. Hopefully they’ll save it for the inevitable animated film to capitalize on Mario’s success.
You WILL have an Adventure 2 movie
You WILL clap when Shadow is on screen
You WILL care about Maria
YOU WILL LOVE NU SONIC
What about detective pikachu? that's like the least faithful thing in Cinema, WAY MORE SO than any 90's bastardization like the first Super Mario Movie. It doesn't even look anything like the original game it's based on
And people love it.
They will suck up anything entertaining.
No? Pokémon is one of the most popular IPs in the world. The fact that it didn’t make a billion like Mario is a disgrace.
>And people love it
Only normies who never played the game or don't even know its existence. Or consoomers (Pokemon ones included) with shitty taste at games (like the ones who buy and shill crappy Pokemon games like Scarlet/Violet).
This movie is wienered eyebrow rape victim shit. I couldn't stand how they portrayed Donkey Kong as a popped collar date rapist. If you want to see a good cartoon, watch Cans Without Labels instead.
Put your name on guy so I can filter you
Not even trying anymore with the bait huh tacticalfiend?
That news about Illumination likely getting their hands on Zelda thanks to the success of this movie had me sick to my stomach.
What this film did to donkey kong was fricking awful. Just infused him with Seth Rogen facial expressions and mannerisms to justify that awful casting.
And neither Charlie Day nor Christ Pratt fit as their respective mario bros. Also girlboss Peach sucks and anya taylor joy shouldn't have played her. Doesn't match her voice in the games at all, which is a running theme with this movie. Whoever was in charge of casting, aside from jack black who was perfect, or whatever big wig was deadset on maintaining the 2000s trend of trying to fit popular actors and celebrities into parts which they don't belong for the sake of selling tickets should be drawn and quartered.
is just a regular Illumination movie but with mario on it
of course normies ate it
is just a regular nintedo fan thing
I'm disappointed at the lack of moviebob in this image.
Why such animosity towards this movie?
1. it's a bad movie
2. it's a step-back for videogame adaptations and their industry as well
3. the open display of hypocrisy just because this has the Mario name attached.
>it's a bad movie
How?
>it's a step-back for videogame adaptations and their industry as well
How?
>the open display of hypocrisy just because this has the Mario name attached.
Explain.
you forgot your arguments.
>Empty accusations without any elaboration
Okay.
They've been elaborated on already.
K**PAS
Wrong pic, but don’t worry, I got you, op.
I think it gets a free pass from people despite being a terrible movie because:
- the bar for video game adaptations is so astronomically low
- it's not made by Disney (this one only applies to schizos on Cinemaphile)
- it's not woke
- the constant references are really fun for fans
I would have rated this movie a solid 8/10. Since they robbed Daisy of the perfect "badass princess" role, I instead give it a 0/10.
>Everything that people criticize modern media for is in this movie times a thousand
Name one? The only modern media crap this movie has is the Mary Sue Princess Peach. Otherwise it would be the perfect movie. Also it's co-produced by the game's creator, which is why it's faithful to the game and with so many references.
>Coomer
Worthless opinion
What's wrong? Lack of valid arguments, homosexual?
That's not even modern. Super Mario Adventures had Peach using karate and nearly escape on her own.
>super slop brothers
go the frick back to whatever subreddit you're from, butthole
I didn't like this movie but I believe it is bad in a much different way than other modern animated films and even other Illumination films are bad. If they removed the Donkey Kong stuff from the movie and slowed down the pacing considerably, it would've been okay. As it is, it just feels like a cracked out advertisement for Super Nintendo World with no substance at all. If I was in charge of a Mario movie I'd structure it more like Alice in Wonderland or Wizard of Oz.