I'm glad Peter has Miles to mentor him. On what it means to be a hero
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I'm glad Peter has Miles to mentor him. On what it means to be a hero
I'd like to know why is this a surprise to anyone.
In universe, Marvel drilled so much that everyone hates/dislikes Peter and that he should suffer and be an idiot for so much time that it's true out universe.
I don’t care about Miles and Peter's Spider-man is continuously depressing.
If you want to be a Peter "Spider-man" Parker fan, ironically, the comics are the worst way to start.
>ironically, the comics are the worst way to start.
Honestly, yeah. The movies give more respect to the character than the actual source. The movies even have the whole city love him and throw whole celebrations in his honor. Won't get any of that in the comics.
Spider-Man was not always bad it became BAD in due time, if Stan lee was alive today then he would frown upon what marvel has done with Spider-Man. The biggest mistake was bringing back Norman from the dead that's what made them think they could get away with just about anything unpunished. That's what gave birth to Sins Past, OMD and all the other crap.
"Speak of the devil and he shall appear" and in Norman Osborn's and harry's case this turned out to all too true with tragic results for Peter.
>if Stan lee was alive today then he would frown upon what marvel has done with Spider-Man.
Just remember that Lee actually approved of OMD and praised the storyline.
He may say that but apparently wasn't so jazzed on it when people complained about him incorporating it into the newspaper Spider-Man, considering he Dallas'd it to get himself out of the backlash.
1. Lee basically existed to boost Marvel and never publicly say anything negative about anything they did.
2. He was suffering heavy mental decline towards the end.
The secret to being a Spider-man fan and not starting to be depressed by what Marvel's doing is to accept that OMD+ isn't canon.
And, frankly, that's the only sane policy to adopt; if you accept OMD+ as canon you're saying "yes, it is in-character for Peter to sell his love to Satan for nothing."
I don't know about you, but that's not a Peter Parker thing to do in my eyes.
As everything after OMD is a direct result of OMD (it's still affecting the story 15 years later), then nothing after OMD has mattered as it's all OoC edgy fanfiction.
Marvel drones may argue that it's all totally important and canon, but look into your heart, was Slott's run important or a big nothing burger? Wells? Spencers?
None of them wrote a good spider-man story. It's all shit you'd tell people to skip.
Slott and Spencer’s runs definitely had a lot to love in spite of their fault, can’t say anything for Beyond, but Well’s is gonna struggle to stay remembered. There’s so much focus on low-level gang stuff and JRjr shilling it’s struggling to have any good bits.
OMD itself is the hero community failing Peter, so he turns to the dark, so it makes a very strong case for him ignoring the rest.
He went to Strange, who didn't have any way to heal a sniper shot, even though he hasmagic that does, and like 50 potions that do. He went to Beast, who couldn't send Elixir or Angel to heal an innocent bystander. He went to Black Panther, who even though they can cure cancer and AIDS, Wakandan doctors just aren't good at bullet wounds. Iron Man, who directly caused it by getting Pete to out himself, having various nanomachines capable of healing, just went nah, I'll pay the bill until she kicks off.
He should have just went to Dr. Doom, told him everyone else was worthless, and he would have fixed May, gave a moralizing speech about how petty the heroes are, and probably had Spider-man owe him a future favor.
I'd love for this exact scenario to be a huge event that happens. Aunt May or someone important to Peter gets sick again, he asks the same people for help but we can kind of see from a new perspective that they are indeed just brushing him off to the next hero like we all suspected until Peter's about to ask for Mephisto's help. Then, out of nowhere, Doom shows up laughing, going "no no, I will help her. It would be my pleasure to upset 'his' little game this time around" and he heals May. He says something cryptic like "I know what it's like to have your mother taken by evil. True evil." and then leaves. Maybe it cuts to Mephisto pissed off and glowering at Doom's mom's soul and the issue ends setting up a big future brawl in hell.
He did go to Castle Doom to use the time machine, but it wouldn't let him interact with anything and he just watched may and ben or something iirc
Doom saving May to spite every other hero and put Peter in his good graces and owing him a favor sounds really kino
Imagine following it up with Victor offering May and MJ asylum in Latveria while slowly stoking the flames between Spiderman and other heroes, specially Strange, Reed and Tony
Reed would sure hate Peter for ages.
But, again, Doom is Valeria's godparent.
>Remember when Spider-man used to be a story about Peter Parker’s life while being Spider-man.
I remember this part and I'm positive it'll never be a thing again.
Really, I'm not even worried about a black spider-man, a muslim spider-man or a non binary spider-man.
Peter's spider-man in particular became a terrible thing along the years. I can't hate Miles because, comic wise, he's irrelevant.
>He went to Strange, who didn't have any way to heal a sniper shot, even though he hasmagic that does, and like 50 potions that do. He went to Beast, who couldn't send Elixir or Angel to heal an innocent bystander. He went to Black Panther, who even though they can cure cancer and AIDS, Wakandan doctors just aren't good at bullet wounds. Iron Man, who directly caused it by getting Pete to out himself, having various nanomachines capable of healing, just went nah, I'll pay the bill until she kicks off.
It's extremely dumb when they all treated that as "natural course", but, the moment anyone else close to them suffer with the same, there's a quick healing on hand.
Remember when Doctor Strange journeyed through different realms and had an epic showdown with some extradimensional creature because Wong got cancer?
>Iron Man, who directly caused it by getting Pete to out himself, having various nanomachines capable of healing, just went nah, I'll pay the bill until she kicks off.
I would've loved if this actually sparked some conflict between Tony and Spiderman since Peter can't afford the luxury of outing himself like other heroes do
Counterpoint: OMD is starting to turn into the ultimate case study of how powerful the book editors are. Considering it non-canon is to disregard an important piece of comic history
>an important piece of comic history
You can acknowledge it's existence without granting it canon status.
It's a wonderful case-study in fricking absolutely everything up, but it's a data set to study, not a valid story line.
They retcon shit all the time, anon. Remember when they killed off Jean Grey in the Dark Phoenix Saga only to bring her back later? Or how about Bucky's death scene? Or Jason Todd's? If that shit's not sacrosanct, what makes OMD any more so?
Jean never really died anon the Phoenix Force took on the form of a duplicate body of her and placed the real Jean a healing cocoon. The cocoon containing the real Jean sinked to the bottom of the Jamaica Bay unnoticed by anybody, while the Phoenix Force beliving itself to be really jean emerged fro the bay.
Thank you for exactly illustrating my point, anon, cause that sure as hell wasn't the original explanation when Jean grey blew herself up
I'm expecting it any time now and dreading how much the gwenschizo is going to spampost in smug satisfaction
Shitty storyline where he and MJ were caught in another dimension by "the scribbleman", he escaped and made an ass of himself trying to rescue her, and then sat on his ass for six months doing absolutely nothing while everyone stayed angry at him
>I'm expecting it any time now and dreading how much the gwenschizo is going to spampost in smug satisfaction
I think you were replying to him, kek
>Thank you for exactly illustrating my point, anon, cause that sure as hell wasn't the original explanation when Jean grey blew herself up
Yes I know but the thing to bear in mind is that the recton happened later. Fairly certain it was done since they did not want Jean to be stained with the blood of millions of innocent beings on her hands.
Other way, mang. The blowing herself up thing was done because the original plan was for Jean Grey to just divest herself of the Phoenix Force, but Shooter made it clear readers wouldn't accept an ending with Jean Grey just walking away without punishment. Hell, he's the reason she stayed dead for so long and they came up with that wieneramamie story of the real Jean being in an underwater cocoon, since otherwise the X-men would be welcoming back a planet butcher into their ranks without any pushback.
>They retcon shit all the time, anon.
I am sure they will do a recton of Gwen's death someday you can be sure of that anon.
Magical Black trope
Hmmm, another race/rage bait thread
>ima do ma own thing, im better
>yeah writers shill me a new powers
>noo why ya leave me alone i can't
>its your fault, you are irresponsible
>apologyse and call me spider-man
jesus mother fricking christ are these fricker for real, he b***hes just as much as a fricking troony, not even spiderwoman o spidergirl has made an scene like that, how can people shill this geh ass gay, just turn him in to transpiderette already like supergayson and robin (tim geh)
Don't turn this into yet another race hate/chilling thread, it's stupid.
Peter was unusually a jerkass in the latest arc. If wasn't Miles, would be Jessica, Luke, Cap, Human Torch or, worse, MJ calling him out of all the latest bullshit. That's all.
Thing is, they all did. But the things they were pissed at him for were exceptionally stupid at the time, and it's stuff most everyone forgave almost immediately after the inciting event.
>Cap: Peter Parker refusing to talk to the feds cause he was in a rush trying to save Mary Jane, which was solved by apologizing due to hot-headedness
>Fantastic Four: Peter Parker swiping some of their tech due to being in a rush to save Mary Jane, which was solved by apologizing and because the FF had more important shit to deal with eventually
>Mary Jane: For stalking her and Paul despite all the shit he's gone through, to the point that she refuses to so much as talk to or even acknowledge him, which wasn't fixed cause editorial
>Aunt May: For clamming up yet again about why he's in such a rut financially and emotionally, which he apologized for
>Randy Robertson: For going silent for several months for no apparent reason, which he apologized for once he realized shutting people out of his life wasn't going to help
So for Miles to come in and b***h out Peter Parker despite apparently not trying to reach him in those six months himself feels extremely out of character, especially since Peter Parker himself wasn't exactly trying to hide and didn't have the excuse of Peter personally affronting him by visibly ducking his attempts to reach out face-to-face.
Except Cap, MJ, and Torch know why Peter has been the way he has which is why they don't antagonize him for it.
Miles b***hes and moans but not once did he go see what was up with Peter. This just makes Miles seem like an butthole for going all high and mighty on him when he couldn't be bothered to see what was going on with his supposed friend
the whole spider "family" couldn't give less of a frick when Peter was stuck in a hospital bed, they can all rot in hell.
How did Jessica get wrapped up in this? Did they really just decide since she has spider in her name she has to be attached to Peter?
Unironically yes. The most meaningful interaction she's ever really had with Spider-Man was complaining about him, and even then I'm half sure it was Veranke in disguise.
> Give a frick about Peter
> Peter is constantly displayed as self-centered, selfish and a shitty friend
Gee, I dunno why they should care.
Really, Peter haven't any redeeming trait nowadays except a pathological need to be Spider-man.
>Imagine if a black Batman showed up and started telling Bruce Wayne how to be Batman?
It isn't needed. Nowadays, they have Catwoman and the Bat Family constantly shitting on Bruce about how he should act as Batman.
When you realize that Bagely original drew this to have Ben instead of miles is when you realize that NONE of those characters has any good stories with peter
Why is poochie talking like he's having a stroke anyway? Is that Ziglar's doing?
They're really succeeding in making the majority of readers despise him as a character lately huh?
How the frick was this allowed to happen? Imagine if a black Batman showed up and started telling Bruce Wayne how to be Batman? This is how ridiculous this SHIT is.
Spider-Man is a junk book deal with it and go read something better,
Nick Lowe really fricking hates Peter Parker.
Good, a white man can never be a hero. Racism is inherent to Whiteness as an institutional concept. Believing that a white man can be an aspirational figure is at the core of white supremacy.
This. All white people are Literally Hitlersatandrumpffpphgfhhpphh.
Seethe all you want, Miles Morales turned out to be an extremely popular experiment.
Yeah that billion they poured into making the global audience pretend to tolerate him because he's black sure worked, shame he won't survive the zeitgeist switch
>Yeah that billion they poured into making the global audienc
Really?
Shouldn't his movie have made more money then?
I didn't say he's successful, I said people tolerate him, if they liked him he wouldn't have trouble making Spider-Man money
Gwen Stacy has sex with Miguel O'Hara.
Gwen needs a an experienced man to guide her.
Miguel needs to start afresh with a family of his own.
It's perfect.
If it helps you, Exiles had Miguel marrying Gwen.
Keyword: Good.
But, yeah, they had stories with Peter, so, they at least have a link with him.
At the very last, Julia becoming Madame Web gives her more use than be yet another Spider-woman.
Anya was wasted by the moment they decided Spider-Gwen was a good idea.
Anya is actually the only character there that has any positive connection with Peter actually, with an actual in universe reverence for him as a hero. The rest of them openly shit on him both in the books and meta contextually
I care to remember they actually had a nice bonding story as soon as Anya officially became Spider-girl, but, nothing more aside that.
Because Peter is supposedly the experient one. If your senior just disappear and let shit that you never dealt to you solve, of course you should be angry, at last.
Peter has been a shit friend for years, hero or not, that isn't new.
That’s it, that’s a better moment and story than anything pete has with any of those characters.
Eh, first time they met each other was cute, anyway.
I think I should be glad that Anya wasn't turned into gay or something.
Now, this is siblings relationship!
That’s have the relationship that people want to pretend pete and miles have. Just a young person who’s living their own life like Pete was while trying to be a hero.
Miles story is JUST Pete’s but Pete has no relationship with him beyond being the death that makes him spider man. Remember when Spider-man used to be a story about Peter Parker’s life while being Spider-man, rather than just a story about how important it is that their is a black spiderman?
>At the very last, Julia becoming Madame Web gives her more use than be yet another Spider-woman.
All she does is pop up at random during Big Events™ to spout ominous vagueries.
This, she's ironically far more useless and annoying than when she was just Spider-Woman
She did not.
Why does this read like Miles telling Peter that he can't be left alone to defend the city for a few months because everything will turn to shit and its somehow all Peter's fault?
I’m tempted to buy some miles merch.
Just so I can piss on it.
I'm not a Spidey reader, why wasn't he talking to people for 6 months?
Because his girlfriend fell in love with a dude when she was trapped with him for 5 years in the future and now he’s coping by being a b***h to everyone he knows and not being a good hero, person, or story vehicle as the flagship character in his dying company
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Miles Morales es Miles Morales. Tú eres muy tonto, OP.