I understand needing to be pozzed to make money but make it make sense. Give her nanotech that has her function like a normal spider-man or have her chair turn into a mech. Jesus, her rogue gallery must be some fricking tards to get stomped by her cumbersome clunky ass
Sue me, I took a quick glance through the wiki. I don't read every piece of shit comic out there. Stupid sperg.
>Jesus, her rogue gallery must be some fricking tards to get stomped by her cumbersome clunky ass
Her rogues are an actual octopus missing 4 legs and the quadriplegic goblin
So every super powered being who commits crime in her universe is just conveniently handicapped. That's even more moronic.
I understand you're a prissy little homosexual who has too much free time on their hands. I already admitted to not knowing much about the character. The real question is why you refuse to stop bleeding all over me, pussy.
You’re the stupid frick who comes here to whine and b***h about stuff you know nothing about, then get pissy when people correct you and mock your laziness and general outrage culture stupidity. Your family must be so proud
>Jesus, her rogue gallery must be some fricking tards to get stomped by her cumbersome clunky ass
Her rogues are an actual octopus missing 4 legs and the quadriplegic goblin
That's fricking moronic. These writers do realize that Dr. Octopus has four mechanical limbs because his existing biological arms and legs also count when it comes to his moniker?
The biggest weakness of the concept is that this character is somehow still disabled despite all of Spider-Man's powers. That's just not possible, the super strength alone would nullify most of the disease.
I just don't get why someone would want to imagine themselves still being stuck in a wheelchair if they were Spider-Man.
It's the same as people who make disabled characters in Dungeons and Dragons, gaining access to a magic wheelchair that makes you straight up better than a normal person but if someone rolls a 20 while attacking it 3 times it breaks, which is super unlikely.
Why not make a wizard that floats on Tenser's Disc? Or cast spider climb and walk on ceilings using your hands?
Or having someone cast a spell that cures you of your ailment?
Making a character who is disabled who sees their injury or defect as a defining character trait is stupid, anyone who has the ability to improve such a terrible situation should do everything to fix it.
It's the same as people who make disabled characters in Dungeons and Dragons, gaining access to a magic wheelchair that makes you straight up better than a normal person but if someone rolls a 20 while attacking it 3 times it breaks, which is super unlikely.
Can't believe Spy Kids 3 of all things was the one to get it right, the wheelchair-bound grandpa gets a power suit that lets him walk again and he is all over that shit and ditches his grandson to go enjoy having legs again
Could have done a DD where she has to pretend to be crippled. Or god forbid actually use her powers in unique ways keeping in tune with being handicapped.
>Or god forbid actually use her powers in unique ways keeping in tune with being handicapped.
I remember a scene in a comic where she took advantage of her legs being all floppy and useless to squeeze through things.
>Spidersona
I prefer the term counterfeit, as much like actual counterfeit bills their introduction enmass severely undervalues the actual thing )(this case Peter Parker being Spider-Man) until its as worthless as a Weimar Republic dollar.
I wouldn't have minded if they made Sun Spider a legit cripple spiderman but the costume design is just all over the place. Seriously, shooting webs from her canes? Give her a mech suit like this model kit and have her dangling cripple legs at least look like the mouth of the spider, just for aesthetics sake. With her jumping around on just crutches, it just doesn't look cool
How are there still crippled people in a world where you can turn people into dinosaurs? You tellin me I can turn myself into a lizard or a fire mutant but if I get my spine snapped I'm just fricked?
I'm convinced it was all a farce, and the contest was fake. There's at least two submissions that were way better. First there was Garden Spider, the tiny hero around the size of Ant-Man but with a big heart for heroism
If the contest was real, the the winner had Marvel's balls in a vice the second she submitted. Because if she didn't win she could cry ableist and cause a controversy
Then there was Spider-MANLY, the Conan style mythical He-Man style spider hero. You're telling me this guy and Garden Spider lost to alphabet autism on wheels? For frick sake
I think it was less about her thinking her legs were fine and more that she didn’t want that creep surgically turning her into a cyborg and potentially implanting a mind control chip in her spine
>A possibility I'm sure runs through the minds of people who do try experimental robotic surgery to regain the use of limbs.
If the guy proposing is a known super villain ? Probably yeah. People that have a life-long disability usually aren't particularly desperate of seeing it cured, because they are used to it. They wouldn't jeopardize their own safety for it, or risk being indebted to someone that could make their life measurably worse.
Is Ock a known super villain here? It seems kind of odd to have one in a high school prom when we wouldn't even let other types of criminals near a school with kids.
Lot of ways you could go with it, like why doesn't she have a 3rd party review the tech and do the surgery? I can't think of many people who would brush off being able to see or walk again w/o a really good reason for others.
reminder that everything in this story is her fault and at the end of the story she guilt trips everyone for not coming to save her, because she's "wheelchair ridden", despite her leaving on her own accord and causing the fight with otto to take place.
>Otto offers her a solution to her disability >Gets shit on because "[her] legs are perfect" >The stupid b***h signs in her inner monologue >Otto chimps out because he needs to be the bad guy >Histamina
Everything about that story was so fricking moronic and the ending made it even worse
Well Mr White Knight, my point was they are painting him as an incel to make it seem like a bad thing that he's trying to help her with her disability. It's bad writing to try and be empowering to cripples
Assuming that's true, which we have no concrete evidence of, it's irrelevant, because she turns down the legs purely because hers are "perfect". She doesn't have a moral issue with them, nor does she reject it based on any sort of apparent catch, she says no because she's a c**t
11 months ago
Anonymous
>She’s a c**t because she isn’t interested in dating Otto who’s a creepy
Incel solidarity, I love it!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>literally runs off to go superhero so no one can find her >complains that no one found her and helped her out of the building
There is nothing likeable about this character
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Someone admits they ran off on their own and didn’t even think to help her even though her wheelchair and the lack of ramp would have made it basically impossible to get away from the building on her own >Wow what a fricking b***h, how dare she point out basic issues with accessibility!!
Chill out, incel
11 months ago
Anonymous
>guys DO NOT help me I can do it on my one (including getting up and down these stairs) >why didn't anyone help me???? I can't get down these stairs even if my life depended on it!!!
She's just not likeable, I'm sorry. A character with such a flawed premise can't also try and act like a c**t and get away with it
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only c**t here is you thanks to how sensitive your man-vegana is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
anon just storytime the story at this point it's only 10 pages or so
11 months ago
Anonymous
There's really nothing else to the story beyond the pages already posted. Just two pages where she fights Otto with "Histamina"
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's the real kicker, the writer clearly doesn't know how to portray her as a strong woman without making her an absolute c**t to everyone around her.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Chars complained every time for ramp >Protag b***hes they mama her too much >Life or death situation occurs >Protag b***hes that they didn't include ramp and left her to die
Holy frick please let this c**t get superior spock'd already.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i have noticed a writing trend with young socially aware writers where everyone talks like they're doing a youtube apology video.
these girls have done literally everything right with their position of relative power and sun spider is b***hing about it. it's like the writer was afraid to make them actually sincerely ignorant instead of cheerleader props.
She literally cant use her legs Anon. She probably cant wallcrawl as fast because she has to support her entire body with her arms rather than legs. Like you can call me an butthole all you want but the power is silly as frick on a crippled person when you could have done something like idk flight? has there ever been a crippled flyer? My point is the powers spider-man has are based around physical prowess and putting that physical prowess on somebody who can only use half their body can only work for like webswinging. Like, that's why the robo legs wheelchair works for me because it allows her to cope with her disability.
>Otto offers her a solution to her disability >Gets shit on because "[her] legs are perfect" >The stupid b***h signs in her inner monologue >Otto chimps out because he needs to be the bad guy >Histamina
Everything about that story was so fricking moronic and the ending made it even worse
The person who come with this character would get filtered so hard by Steel Ball Run.
Honestly I think Sun Spider is a good character when given to good writers. Like I get the disagreement with the web crutches, but I can see them being useful if she added hooks on the end making them similar to ODM gear
Also she could be a more ranger spidey. A spider sniper if you will
Written like a true non disabled person. You take pride in it WHEN YOU KNOW THERES NO OTHER OPTION. Tell that to someone in a chair, because I guarantee they’ll call you a frickhead and ask for the cure
You mean getting actual legitimate and real medical care? Oh wow you got me, bro! Totally the same fricking thing as comic offering a magic cure that doesn’t exist irl
Did nobody realize that she only showed her burger king's kids club ass up so Lord and Miller could make a cripple joke because she literally uses crutches.
You've gotta love how every single part of this character screams OC because none of it is thought out >Random X across her face and chest (why?) >Wears a jacket because Spider-Verse >Backwards hat (why doesn't it blow away?) >Crutches are the webshooters (wouldn't they be harder to aim plus be really obvious for a bad guy to just take and break?) >Knee pads >Normal shoes
The very specific disease she has also makes it obvious that it's a self-insert too
>Is that a…. DISABILITY?!?? >AAAAAHHHHH I AM LOSING MY MIND OVER THIS POZZED PROPAGANDA!!!
Day by day this board becomes more pathetic and laughably stupid. You people are so fricking stupid you would have been whining about Daredevil, Xavier, Oracle and Silhouette being inclusive SJW woke propaganda
None of those characters are defined by their disability, in fact they overcome adversity despite having it. Sun Spider exists just to draw attention to the fact that she's a special snowflake, this character only works if you take the absurd leap of logic that her villains and contemporaries don't take her seriously and thus try not to hurt her during fights.
>None of those characters are defined by their disability
There are exactly two Charles Xavier storylines: a secret twin sister that he tried to choke in the womb, and him recovering his ability to walk. That's it.
>no Xaiver meeting Shadow King or Magneto in his travels across the world
Silhouette is literally a paraplegic. Xavier in the old days couldn’t shut up about his legs for drama. DD has to deal with his blindness constantly. Sun Spider is entirely capable of being a superhero despite her disability as proven by her appearances
I'm not saying she can't, I'm saying the powerset is a weird combination for her disability. Like being a tech expert doesnt require you to use legs or being a psychic. Spider-Man spends most of his time leaping from roof top to roof top and walking upside down on roofs. Like idk, you could probably pick a better power for a character that compliments them. Feels like giving laser eyes to a blind guy. She cant really use her abilities to her fullest potential.
Because having radar sense allows Matt to negate his disability, being a tech expert allows Barbra to practically be on the field with the Batfamily without ever leaving his wheelchair. Xaiver can read people's minds or astral project or fricking psychic blast motherfrickers or levitate himself so he doesnt need legs. Sun-Spider still cant bounce or kick like Spidey. She can web swing and hit hard but like have you seen Spider-Man? Dude is constantly using his legs as a ballast for his acrobatic feats or summersaulting around. Idk if there are crippled gymnasts or acrobats but like i doubt they can compete with like a gymnast with use of their legs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
*her wheelchair
Forgive me barbra sama I was talking about boys and generalized you....
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Well Sun Spider can’t do that because I am too busy shoving my head into my ass to accept it!
Wow great argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
She literally cant use her legs Anon. She probably cant wallcrawl as fast because she has to support her entire body with her arms rather than legs. Like you can call me an butthole all you want but the power is silly as frick on a crippled person when you could have done something like idk flight? has there ever been a crippled flyer? My point is the powers spider-man has are based around physical prowess and putting that physical prowess on somebody who can only use half their body can only work for like webswinging. Like, that's why the robo legs wheelchair works for me because it allows her to cope with her disability.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>BUT HER LEGS
It’s like talking to a wall.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>erm youre a moron for thinking about the character for five seconds
Okay moron. Good conversation where you whined and moaned at me for using basic deductive reasoning.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You’re the moron here who keeps whining that a super powered person with Ehlers Danlos syndrome can’t be a superhero with spider powers enabling her to overcome issues with her mobility because uhhhh you are only allowed to use a mecha wheelchair because uh her legs! This is logic, I swear!
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I was more saying she'd still have mobility problems despite the web swinging. It would still make being a superhero incredibly hard when like the whole point of being a spidey type is power fantasy brought down to reality. Like it is fine to have drawbacks to your powers but this just feels like somebody wanted a Spidey with Ehlers Danlos system without actually like sitting down and thinking about what that would mean. Like the whole point of Spidey was he was a more realistic take at the time on superheroes. So like do her friends wonder how she managed to roll up in a place without a wheelchair access and get sus? Does she try leg braces made of adamantium with starktech servos to walk or are they too expensive and she needs a job at the bugle to get them? Do fellow supers look down on her for being crippled? Does she enjoy having to speak/be an example for all crippled people any time the media puts her in the spotlight? Does she struggle to keep up with more abled villains? Like there is a dozen questions to make her feel more fleshed out but she kinda hangs out with some grrrrls at prom and tells incel doc ock to frick off because she thinks he is mega creep.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>But it would make it harder than a person who doesn’t have that syndrome! I have to nitpick this to death because I don’t have a life!
Oh my God who gives a shit. You’re bending over backwards just to whine about a minor character that apparently triggers you because she has a disability.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I say not to nitpick but like if you are gonna do a crippled superhero you should like make the representation be more than just there. Make their story only something that could be told through them rather than just HAVE them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Her solo story does showcase her disability, wtf are you talking about.
>Oh my god who gives a shit! I need to get really angry at you and actually bother reading that entire essay just to get more mad! By the way I really don't give a shit! You're getting angry over literally nothing!
Wow, you're really mature and admirable in comparison, anon. Gonna complain more about people complaining? Does it make you irrationally angry when someone shits on a character you REALLY don't care about? Gonna b***h about me now instead? You little b***h~
Sure, make more of an ass of yourself. It’s easier than to admit you’re acting like a child and making a big deal out of nothing because hero with the wrong kind of disability triggers you
11 months ago
Anonymous
If I can redraw the entire comic with Spider-Gwen or Spider-Girl and just have them standing around rather than in a wheelchair it isnt really about a disabled Spidey Anon. It is a Spidey story with a character who is disabled. There isnt any like ramifications for Sun-Spider, no part of the story actually requires a disabled character to tell. I could literally make the entire comic and just have any Spidey girl in place of Sun-Spider and it would just be mid comic with a really boring Doc Ock who's an incel rather than an insufferable genius mad scientist. Name one single part of the story where Sun-Spider couldnt have been anybody else. All I've got is Ock trying to promise prosthetics which more or less could be replaced with any generic sleazy promise to offend a girl.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The entire story has to be about her disability!!!!
OK, moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
Literally it should play a role in something, like otherwise it is purely cosmetic with a bit of dialogue and visuals indicating this character is crippled. IDK what to tell you beyond you god defending this fricking OC.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Flip-flopping between wanting no disabilities on a character and getting mad, to wanting more disabilities on a character and getting mad
OK, keep complaining, moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wut? Just cuz I say it was a bad combo doesnt mean I dont want it ever. As I said, I liked the robo legs because it was creative. I just think the issue is if youre gonna do a spidey story at least acknowledge the issues of being a superhero because Spider-Man is defined by his struggles against his adversities and triumphing over them. It would be more compelling if the comic focused on like that in those ten pages than whatever the frick going to prom wuz.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But it does play a role in the story, you dumb frick. There’s a clear overall message about common spaces needing ramp access because of how dangerous/impossible it makes moving for wheelchair bound people, hence why ramp access comes up TWICE in the story, and Otto is literally trying to buy love by telling Sun Spider he’ll fix her legs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fair. I forgot about those since it has been a bit since I read it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You are just gonna cover your ears and go all lalalala huh?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Oh my god who gives a shit! I need to get really angry at you and actually bother reading that entire essay just to get more mad! By the way I really don't give a shit! You're getting angry over literally nothing!
Wow, you're really mature and admirable in comparison, anon. Gonna complain more about people complaining? Does it make you irrationally angry when someone shits on a character you REALLY don't care about? Gonna b***h about me now instead? You little b***h~
tbh Oracle was depressed about being wheelchair bound and longed to be batgirl again even if she was useful as a tech expert. And Xaiver is a psychic, not really a power that requires use of your legs or moving around all that much. Very different from being Spider-Man who is a very physical active and very acrobatic man who loves kicking and flipping around. It's more being crippled is kinda a silly choice for a spider-man powerset but the robot wheelchair is cool and i wanna bang her in her costume so i dont really care too bad.
Silhouette is literally a paraplegic. Xavier in the old days couldn’t shut up about his legs for drama. DD has to deal with his blindness constantly. Sun Spider is entirely capable of being a superhero despite her disability as proven by her appearances
Could have gone the assassin spider route where due to her disability she develops insane control over her spider-sense and more fine tuned control of the wall crawling ability.
Maybe even has a Doc Ock who is good guy in her universe that lets her use an exo skeleton for walking but something she only likes to break out as last resort.
>Waaaah!! Waaah!!!! W-why don't you c-c-cry some more?!? I can say what I want!! You can't tell me what to do! This isn't a safe space! Now stop telling me what to do!!
>Day by day this board becomes more pathetic and laughably stupid. You people are so fricking stupid you would have been whining about Daredevil, Xavier, Oracle and Silhouette being inclusive SJW woke propaganda
Whataboutism has rotted your brain into mush.
I guess Kaine, but on reflection, I feel like ur looking for something gayer.
Interesting, I'll look into both more
>I feel like ur looking for something gayer.
I just think leaning more into the spider aspects is a lot neater, to have more elements besides the wall-crawling and web-slinging
You know. I personally hold the belief that there’s no such thing as a character who doesn’t work. I just gotta ask myself “what needs to change to make them work?
Only an extremely narcissitic fat woman or a deeply distrubed incel with a fetish for disabled girls would come up with a character like this. I say this as a guy who used to drive the short bus, nobody with bad legs was happy about having bad legs. Disabled people don't want to be in wheel chairs. They don't fantasize about being in wheel chairs. What kind of a psycho uses fantasy to remind crippled people of the shit they're trying to escape in the real world? If a kid has divorced parents, the last thing they want to read about is their favorite couple breaking up.
Thank you. I made this thread because everywhere I look, I see nothing but blind praise for this character. I just needed to be reminded that I haven't gone insane for thinking otherwise.
>FRICK DISABLED PEOPLE, THEY DON’T GET TO HAVE SUPERHERO CHARACTERS! >ALSO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WOULD LOVE IF FICTION JUST KEPT MAGICALLY FIXING THEM ALL THE TIME AND PRETENDED THEY AREN’T A THING!
>"Look, Miles. I'll speak real slow so even you people could understand. When Hauptmann Stacy, a great man, died trying to push a israelite kid into the shower I wanted to undo that but I knew that the universes would unravel."
It's a (very good) kid's movie dawg
It's pretty clear they're leaning on the whole "anyone could be Spiderman" theme
Grow up and stop being bitter about moronic shit
Why are you shocked? It shouldn't have come as a surprise when they turned what was a neat concept of Spider-men from different genres and art styles teaming up into "There's a spider-man for every race, gender and body type! Here's indian spider-man, here's black pregnant spider-man, here's fat lesbian spider-man! Make sure to buy the funko pop of the one that represents you best!"
>guys DO NOT help me I can do it on my one (including getting up and down these stairs) >why didn't anyone help me???? I can't get down these stairs even if my life depended on it!!!
She's just not likeable, I'm sorry. A character with such a flawed premise can't also try and act like a c**t and get away with it
Honestly don't care about the idea of a spider-person with a disability that they're able to overcome on account of spider powers (seems a bit moronic because like you'd think the superpowers and the disability would just kinda cancel out in this case but it's comics so whatever).
I do find it hilarious that in her universe people are apparently too stupid to put two and two together that every time the spider girl with gimp legs, crutches, and a wheelchair shows up that one disabled girl who's always around mysteriously disappears though.
>wrote to character limit about wanting to define Sun Spider if she had a mini series >browser died >this has happened multiple times for different posts
A voodoo curse has been put on this thread...
There's already creator drama with this character because her VA thanked s writer as her creator, people pointed out the writer didn't create her and the writer got pissed and said they did because they gave her personality and that makes them a co-creator.
her wheelchair turning into spider legs for her makes more fricking sense than her just webbing it to her back.
Lord and Miller are creative.
The enbie crip who created her just wante that rep high.
Something like this then maybe?
look at for what it looks like
Wow, that looks like shit.
This
Weebing the wheelchair into her back is impractical
Everything about her design just screams out "PLEASE NOTICE MY DISABILITY"
I understand needing to be pozzed to make money but make it make sense. Give her nanotech that has her function like a normal spider-man or have her chair turn into a mech. Jesus, her rogue gallery must be some fricking tards to get stomped by her cumbersome clunky ass
...thats what happed you dumb frick, she got a robot wheel chair
Sue me, I took a quick glance through the wiki. I don't read every piece of shit comic out there. Stupid sperg.
So every super powered being who commits crime in her universe is just conveniently handicapped. That's even more moronic.
So you admit to get mad over something you don't understand? Dumb rightoid.
I understand you're a prissy little homosexual who has too much free time on their hands. I already admitted to not knowing much about the character. The real question is why you refuse to stop bleeding all over me, pussy.
You’re the stupid frick who comes here to whine and b***h about stuff you know nothing about, then get pissy when people correct you and mock your laziness and general outrage culture stupidity. Your family must be so proud
>I took a quick glance through the wiki. I don't read every piece of shit comic out there.
You're what's wrong with contemporary comics
>So every super powered being who commits crime in her universe is just conveniently handicapped.
That would be very funny
>Jesus, her rogue gallery must be some fricking tards to get stomped by her cumbersome clunky ass
Her rogues are an actual octopus missing 4 legs and the quadriplegic goblin
I'd read a book that's basically "Marvel: Special Olympics".
>Her rogues are an actual octopus missing 4 legs
That's fricking moronic. These writers do realize that Dr. Octopus has four mechanical limbs because his existing biological arms and legs also count when it comes to his moniker?
That uh, that was a joke man.
dumb moron
KYS incel
The biggest weakness of the concept is that this character is somehow still disabled despite all of Spider-Man's powers. That's just not possible, the super strength alone would nullify most of the disease.
I just don't get why someone would want to imagine themselves still being stuck in a wheelchair if they were Spider-Man.
It's the same as people who make disabled characters in Dungeons and Dragons, gaining access to a magic wheelchair that makes you straight up better than a normal person but if someone rolls a 20 while attacking it 3 times it breaks, which is super unlikely.
Huh? Wish I knew about this item before, my character is just straight up (or I guess, sitting) on a normal wheelchair
Why not make a wizard that floats on Tenser's Disc? Or cast spider climb and walk on ceilings using your hands?
Or having someone cast a spell that cures you of your ailment?
Making a character who is disabled who sees their injury or defect as a defining character trait is stupid, anyone who has the ability to improve such a terrible situation should do everything to fix it.
It's this weird self own of admitting that you're powerless. It's super unhealthy I think.
Can't believe Spy Kids 3 of all things was the one to get it right, the wheelchair-bound grandpa gets a power suit that lets him walk again and he is all over that shit and ditches his grandson to go enjoy having legs again
You just know stairs are her worst enemy.
I hope her legs flop about while she swings.
>Spider-Person whose weakness is stairs or an inaccessable wheelchair ramp
Could have done a DD where she has to pretend to be crippled. Or god forbid actually use her powers in unique ways keeping in tune with being handicapped.
It's stupid when they have "inclusive" handicapped characters with the "issue solved so they can be normal" with a magic macguffin.
Yeah, that's stupid and it'll never catch on.
>Or god forbid actually use her powers in unique ways keeping in tune with being handicapped.
I remember a scene in a comic where she took advantage of her legs being all floppy and useless to squeeze through things.
>Spidersona
I prefer the term counterfeit, as much like actual counterfeit bills their introduction enmass severely undervalues the actual thing )(this case Peter Parker being Spider-Man) until its as worthless as a Weimar Republic dollar.
theres a car spiderman thats canon, grow up b***h
If a typical spidersona won would anyone talk about it? Would any of us in this thread even have known the contest existed?
it'd probably just be a fun fact, like how lego batman 3 had that contest winner in their game
She was in there for a crutch joke.
>to canonize
You don't even know what that word means
I know its synonymous with homosexualry and you're very much part of canon.
I wouldn't have minded if they made Sun Spider a legit cripple spiderman but the costume design is just all over the place. Seriously, shooting webs from her canes? Give her a mech suit like this model kit and have her dangling cripple legs at least look like the mouth of the spider, just for aesthetics sake. With her jumping around on just crutches, it just doesn't look cool
What anime porno is that from?
none, its just original characters with armor based on animals
he wheel chair turns into mechanical spider legs in the movie.
good morning, sirs.
are there pics of it? im curious about the design
https://www.tiktok.com/@buriedsocks/video/7240955636232539438
that's not bad, but maybe she stays on the spider wheelchair instead of jumping off of it? she's still using the canes though, just doesn't look right
I love the ATK Girl models
maybe if they play more with the "i dont have legs" part we could go with this, but as a spiderman costume
just something, anything other than fricking lame ass walking canes
How are there still crippled people in a world where you can turn people into dinosaurs? You tellin me I can turn myself into a lizard or a fire mutant but if I get my spine snapped I'm just fricked?
...thats what happed you dumb frick, she turns into a lizard fire mutant after getting her spine snapped.
I like her, she's cute and her premise is far more original than Gwen's or Jessica's or Miles'
>I like her, she's cute and her premise is far more original
She is literally a rip off of a member of the (old) New Warriors.
And still more original than those three, pretty damning right
I have a soft spot for vulnerable things, that sort of cute
>She's cute
Stupid coomer.
I'm convinced it was all a farce, and the contest was fake. There's at least two submissions that were way better. First there was Garden Spider, the tiny hero around the size of Ant-Man but with a big heart for heroism
If the contest was real, the the winner had Marvel's balls in a vice the second she submitted. Because if she didn't win she could cry ableist and cause a controversy
>Spidersona
I'm still in disbelief that it's come to this.
everyone can be Spiderman you chud
This is pretty much what super heroes have been from day one. Self inserting just never had -sona slapped onto it.
Then there was Spider-MANLY, the Conan style mythical He-Man style spider hero. You're telling me this guy and Garden Spider lost to alphabet autism on wheels? For frick sake
>alphabet autism on wheels
That's why she was chosen. Virtue signalling.
I'm willing to admit her wheelchair having spider legs is somewhat cool
Why none of you ever submitted Spidershooter?
Too busy fricking your prostitute mother.
epic comment bro! Why don't you post it on reddit so you can get some gold? 🙂
Can't rn. Boning your mother.
sorry bro but I am an orphan IRL
that's cuz i fricked her to death.
Good job buddy! Go tell that to your uncle who sleeps with you, I am sure he will be proud of you 🙂
I thought she was cool 🙂
You know, weirdly I actually came up with a plotline involving her for a show which I think would do something very interesting with the character.
You know, I actually kinda like the concept, it's at least kinda cute
Yeah. I also kind of liked how in her first comic appearance she seemed to be a bit of a seething femcel like early Peter Parker
Fun Fact: Otto straight up offers to give her new legs but she says no because “my legs are perfect”.
I think it was less about her thinking her legs were fine and more that she didn’t want that creep surgically turning her into a cyborg and potentially implanting a mind control chip in her spine
A possibility I'm sure runs through the minds of people who do try experimental robotic surgery to regain the use of limbs.
Glad they at least acknowledge the whole "Why not cure cancer" bit by making it so even a nerd in high school could cure her problem.
>A possibility I'm sure runs through the minds of people who do try experimental robotic surgery to regain the use of limbs.
If the guy proposing is a known super villain ? Probably yeah. People that have a life-long disability usually aren't particularly desperate of seeing it cured, because they are used to it. They wouldn't jeopardize their own safety for it, or risk being indebted to someone that could make their life measurably worse.
Is Ock a known super villain here? It seems kind of odd to have one in a high school prom when we wouldn't even let other types of criminals near a school with kids.
Lot of ways you could go with it, like why doesn't she have a 3rd party review the tech and do the surgery? I can't think of many people who would brush off being able to see or walk again w/o a really good reason for others.
reminder that everything in this story is her fault and at the end of the story she guilt trips everyone for not coming to save her, because she's "wheelchair ridden", despite her leaving on her own accord and causing the fight with otto to take place.
Any real life disabled people who says they'd never accept a cure if they were presented with one are bald faced, dirty liars.
Wrong. It’s a highly contentious issue for the deaf community for example
Well, Ill talk shit about them and call them moronic but cover my lips so they cant read them.
I'm deaf and I would absolutely fricking love to be able to hear again without any problems
Wouldn't even care if it was Doc Ock curing me
Okay, so go suck his dick for the cure
>Otto offers her a solution to her disability
>Gets shit on because "[her] legs are perfect"
>The stupid b***h signs in her inner monologue
>Otto chimps out because he needs to be the bad guy
>Histamina
Everything about that story was so fricking moronic and the ending made it even worse
Yes, incel Otto repeatedly trying to hit on her while telling he will fix her really paints him as the good guy here
Well Mr White Knight, my point was they are painting him as an incel to make it seem like a bad thing that he's trying to help her with her disability. It's bad writing to try and be empowering to cripples
He’s literally pestering her to date him and uses her legs in a creepy way to make it transactional.
Assuming that's true, which we have no concrete evidence of, it's irrelevant, because she turns down the legs purely because hers are "perfect". She doesn't have a moral issue with them, nor does she reject it based on any sort of apparent catch, she says no because she's a c**t
>She’s a c**t because she isn’t interested in dating Otto who’s a creepy
Incel solidarity, I love it!
>literally runs off to go superhero so no one can find her
>complains that no one found her and helped her out of the building
There is nothing likeable about this character
>Someone admits they ran off on their own and didn’t even think to help her even though her wheelchair and the lack of ramp would have made it basically impossible to get away from the building on her own
>Wow what a fricking b***h, how dare she point out basic issues with accessibility!!
Chill out, incel
>guys DO NOT help me I can do it on my one (including getting up and down these stairs)
>why didn't anyone help me???? I can't get down these stairs even if my life depended on it!!!
She's just not likeable, I'm sorry. A character with such a flawed premise can't also try and act like a c**t and get away with it
The only c**t here is you thanks to how sensitive your man-vegana is.
anon just storytime the story at this point it's only 10 pages or so
There's really nothing else to the story beyond the pages already posted. Just two pages where she fights Otto with "Histamina"
That's the real kicker, the writer clearly doesn't know how to portray her as a strong woman without making her an absolute c**t to everyone around her.
>Chars complained every time for ramp
>Protag b***hes they mama her too much
>Life or death situation occurs
>Protag b***hes that they didn't include ramp and left her to die
Holy frick please let this c**t get superior spock'd already.
i have noticed a writing trend with young socially aware writers where everyone talks like they're doing a youtube apology video.
these girls have done literally everything right with their position of relative power and sun spider is b***hing about it. it's like the writer was afraid to make them actually sincerely ignorant instead of cheerleader props.
The person who come with this character would get filtered so hard by Steel Ball Run.
The person who came up with this character didn’t write the comic
Two people who would get filtered hard by Steel Ball Run then
Nah still only one.
Honestly I think Sun Spider is a good character when given to good writers. Like I get the disagreement with the web crutches, but I can see them being useful if she added hooks on the end making them similar to ODM gear
Also she could be a more ranger spidey. A spider sniper if you will
>Spider sniper
Is this a reference to a Cinemaphile insider meme or joke?
Written like a true non disabled person. You take pride in it WHEN YOU KNOW THERES NO OTHER OPTION. Tell that to someone in a chair, because I guarantee they’ll call you a frickhead and ask for the cure
Oh yeah that’s a great lesson: sell yourself to creepoids to fix your disability
I'm 100% certain the writer of the comic would advocate for bootleg HRT and travelling to 3rd world countries to get gender reassignment surgery.
You mean getting actual legitimate and real medical care? Oh wow you got me, bro! Totally the same fricking thing as comic offering a magic cure that doesn’t exist irl
>You mean getting actual legitimate and real medical care?
>bootleg HRT and cheap 3rd world surgery
>actual legitimate and real medical care
Are you illiterate or just moronic?
>legs can't do the one thing they were meant to do.
>they're perfect
what?
>hyperchudincel6000orwhatever offers her le new legs
>femoid is shaken but not stirred, she declines out of fear
understand, chuddy?
Did nobody realize that she only showed her burger king's kids club ass up so Lord and Miller could make a cripple joke because she literally uses crutches.
I didn’t mind her in the film, I was just surprised she got like three whole lines for such a minor role
You've gotta love how every single part of this character screams OC because none of it is thought out
>Random X across her face and chest (why?)
>Wears a jacket because Spider-Verse
>Backwards hat (why doesn't it blow away?)
>Crutches are the webshooters (wouldn't they be harder to aim plus be really obvious for a bad guy to just take and break?)
>Knee pads
>Normal shoes
The very specific disease she has also makes it obvious that it's a self-insert too
>Is that a…. DISABILITY?!??
>AAAAAHHHHH I AM LOSING MY MIND OVER THIS POZZED PROPAGANDA!!!
Day by day this board becomes more pathetic and laughably stupid. You people are so fricking stupid you would have been whining about Daredevil, Xavier, Oracle and Silhouette being inclusive SJW woke propaganda
None of those characters are defined by their disability, in fact they overcome adversity despite having it. Sun Spider exists just to draw attention to the fact that she's a special snowflake, this character only works if you take the absurd leap of logic that her villains and contemporaries don't take her seriously and thus try not to hurt her during fights.
>Daredevil
>Not defined by his blindness
Get the frick out, you whiny prick.
Not him but it’s practically irrelevant given the trade off. Fricker can read a newspaper
With his fricking fingers, it’s basically the same as reading braille except he can do it directly from printed ink.
>None of those characters are defined by their disability
There are exactly two Charles Xavier storylines: a secret twin sister that he tried to choke in the womb, and him recovering his ability to walk. That's it.
OH YEAH homosexual, what about that time when he uses his psych power and go aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie? HUH HUH HUH?
>no Xaiver meeting Shadow King or Magneto in his travels across the world
I'm not saying she can't, I'm saying the powerset is a weird combination for her disability. Like being a tech expert doesnt require you to use legs or being a psychic. Spider-Man spends most of his time leaping from roof top to roof top and walking upside down on roofs. Like idk, you could probably pick a better power for a character that compliments them. Feels like giving laser eyes to a blind guy. She cant really use her abilities to her fullest potential.
How is it any weirder than being blind and having radar sense?
Because having radar sense allows Matt to negate his disability, being a tech expert allows Barbra to practically be on the field with the Batfamily without ever leaving his wheelchair. Xaiver can read people's minds or astral project or fricking psychic blast motherfrickers or levitate himself so he doesnt need legs. Sun-Spider still cant bounce or kick like Spidey. She can web swing and hit hard but like have you seen Spider-Man? Dude is constantly using his legs as a ballast for his acrobatic feats or summersaulting around. Idk if there are crippled gymnasts or acrobats but like i doubt they can compete with like a gymnast with use of their legs.
*her wheelchair
Forgive me barbra sama I was talking about boys and generalized you....
>Well Sun Spider can’t do that because I am too busy shoving my head into my ass to accept it!
Wow great argument.
She literally cant use her legs Anon. She probably cant wallcrawl as fast because she has to support her entire body with her arms rather than legs. Like you can call me an butthole all you want but the power is silly as frick on a crippled person when you could have done something like idk flight? has there ever been a crippled flyer? My point is the powers spider-man has are based around physical prowess and putting that physical prowess on somebody who can only use half their body can only work for like webswinging. Like, that's why the robo legs wheelchair works for me because it allows her to cope with her disability.
>BUT HER LEGS
It’s like talking to a wall.
>erm youre a moron for thinking about the character for five seconds
Okay moron. Good conversation where you whined and moaned at me for using basic deductive reasoning.
You’re the moron here who keeps whining that a super powered person with Ehlers Danlos syndrome can’t be a superhero with spider powers enabling her to overcome issues with her mobility because uhhhh you are only allowed to use a mecha wheelchair because uh her legs! This is logic, I swear!
Anon, I was more saying she'd still have mobility problems despite the web swinging. It would still make being a superhero incredibly hard when like the whole point of being a spidey type is power fantasy brought down to reality. Like it is fine to have drawbacks to your powers but this just feels like somebody wanted a Spidey with Ehlers Danlos system without actually like sitting down and thinking about what that would mean. Like the whole point of Spidey was he was a more realistic take at the time on superheroes. So like do her friends wonder how she managed to roll up in a place without a wheelchair access and get sus? Does she try leg braces made of adamantium with starktech servos to walk or are they too expensive and she needs a job at the bugle to get them? Do fellow supers look down on her for being crippled? Does she enjoy having to speak/be an example for all crippled people any time the media puts her in the spotlight? Does she struggle to keep up with more abled villains? Like there is a dozen questions to make her feel more fleshed out but she kinda hangs out with some grrrrls at prom and tells incel doc ock to frick off because she thinks he is mega creep.
>But it would make it harder than a person who doesn’t have that syndrome! I have to nitpick this to death because I don’t have a life!
Oh my God who gives a shit. You’re bending over backwards just to whine about a minor character that apparently triggers you because she has a disability.
Anon, I say not to nitpick but like if you are gonna do a crippled superhero you should like make the representation be more than just there. Make their story only something that could be told through them rather than just HAVE them.
Her solo story does showcase her disability, wtf are you talking about.
Sure, make more of an ass of yourself. It’s easier than to admit you’re acting like a child and making a big deal out of nothing because hero with the wrong kind of disability triggers you
If I can redraw the entire comic with Spider-Gwen or Spider-Girl and just have them standing around rather than in a wheelchair it isnt really about a disabled Spidey Anon. It is a Spidey story with a character who is disabled. There isnt any like ramifications for Sun-Spider, no part of the story actually requires a disabled character to tell. I could literally make the entire comic and just have any Spidey girl in place of Sun-Spider and it would just be mid comic with a really boring Doc Ock who's an incel rather than an insufferable genius mad scientist. Name one single part of the story where Sun-Spider couldnt have been anybody else. All I've got is Ock trying to promise prosthetics which more or less could be replaced with any generic sleazy promise to offend a girl.
>The entire story has to be about her disability!!!!
OK, moron
Literally it should play a role in something, like otherwise it is purely cosmetic with a bit of dialogue and visuals indicating this character is crippled. IDK what to tell you beyond you god defending this fricking OC.
>Flip-flopping between wanting no disabilities on a character and getting mad, to wanting more disabilities on a character and getting mad
OK, keep complaining, moron
Wut? Just cuz I say it was a bad combo doesnt mean I dont want it ever. As I said, I liked the robo legs because it was creative. I just think the issue is if youre gonna do a spidey story at least acknowledge the issues of being a superhero because Spider-Man is defined by his struggles against his adversities and triumphing over them. It would be more compelling if the comic focused on like that in those ten pages than whatever the frick going to prom wuz.
But it does play a role in the story, you dumb frick. There’s a clear overall message about common spaces needing ramp access because of how dangerous/impossible it makes moving for wheelchair bound people, hence why ramp access comes up TWICE in the story, and Otto is literally trying to buy love by telling Sun Spider he’ll fix her legs.
Fair. I forgot about those since it has been a bit since I read it.
You are just gonna cover your ears and go all lalalala huh?
>Oh my god who gives a shit! I need to get really angry at you and actually bother reading that entire essay just to get more mad! By the way I really don't give a shit! You're getting angry over literally nothing!
Wow, you're really mature and admirable in comparison, anon. Gonna complain more about people complaining? Does it make you irrationally angry when someone shits on a character you REALLY don't care about? Gonna b***h about me now instead? You little b***h~
tbh Oracle was depressed about being wheelchair bound and longed to be batgirl again even if she was useful as a tech expert. And Xaiver is a psychic, not really a power that requires use of your legs or moving around all that much. Very different from being Spider-Man who is a very physical active and very acrobatic man who loves kicking and flipping around. It's more being crippled is kinda a silly choice for a spider-man powerset but the robot wheelchair is cool and i wanna bang her in her costume so i dont really care too bad.
Silhouette is literally a paraplegic. Xavier in the old days couldn’t shut up about his legs for drama. DD has to deal with his blindness constantly. Sun Spider is entirely capable of being a superhero despite her disability as proven by her appearances
Could have gone the assassin spider route where due to her disability she develops insane control over her spider-sense and more fine tuned control of the wall crawling ability.
Maybe even has a Doc Ock who is good guy in her universe that lets her use an exo skeleton for walking but something she only likes to break out as last resort.
Son, you dont have to hang around here if you dont like it, specially if you understand you are in the minority with your dog shit opinions.
No, no, let them complain some more. It keeps the thread going and it's always nice to have a clown around
Why don’t you cry some more that this board isn’t your personal safe space
>Waaaah!! Waaah!!!! W-why don't you c-c-cry some more?!? I can say what I want!! You can't tell me what to do! This isn't a safe space! Now stop telling me what to do!!
Yeah, like that. But you should put some more effort into it not sounding like a bot
Yeah, like that. But you should put some more effort into it not sounding like a bot
>Day by day this board becomes more pathetic and laughably stupid. You people are so fricking stupid you would have been whining about Daredevil, Xavier, Oracle and Silhouette being inclusive SJW woke propaganda
Whataboutism has rotted your brain into mush.
Anon, if you want to cry it’s fine. It doesn’t make you less of a man
I’d forgive her if she was dating her world’s version of White Rabbit
I am sure you do little moron, I am sure you do 🙂
is there a spiderman that's more like a tarantula so instead of swinging around he's just super ripped and hairy?
Ultimate Tarantula, the coolest bit of the Ultimate Clone Saga.
Interesting, I'll look into both more
>I feel like ur looking for something gayer.
I just think leaning more into the spider aspects is a lot neater, to have more elements besides the wall-crawling and web-slinging
I guess Kaine, but on reflection, I feel like ur looking for something gayer.
>A Spider-Man for the bara crowd
I like the way you think, anon.
so is her universe's gimmick that all of her rogues are handicapped in someway
instead of the green goblin you have the deaf dwarf
the moronic rhino
Doc Ock didn’t seem disabled, so I think a better gimmick would be the opposite
Sun Spider is a trickster hero, going up against the physical and mental peaks of humanity with deception, misdirection, and an active disability
and stairs
You know. I personally hold the belief that there’s no such thing as a character who doesn’t work. I just gotta ask myself “what needs to change to make them work?
The Deaf Dwarf is my favorite Mahveh villain
Instead of Hammerhead there's Waterhead.
Her entire character sounds like a bet at making the most moronic Spider
>What if Spider-Man but
>A woman
>Lesbo
>Fricking handicapped
The only thing that missing is her being autistic or black/asian/indian
It took one fat frick to turn Spider-Man into Sonic. This is just depressing.
Said fat frick did also write a couple of Sonic issues back in the day...
The multiverse Sonic issues too...
I still don't get why gay characters need to wear rainbows just to remind you they're gay
Best part is that she's not even really crippled, just has some fibromyalgia tier fake meme disease where her joints kind of hurt some times.
Only an extremely narcissitic fat woman or a deeply distrubed incel with a fetish for disabled girls would come up with a character like this. I say this as a guy who used to drive the short bus, nobody with bad legs was happy about having bad legs. Disabled people don't want to be in wheel chairs. They don't fantasize about being in wheel chairs. What kind of a psycho uses fantasy to remind crippled people of the shit they're trying to escape in the real world? If a kid has divorced parents, the last thing they want to read about is their favorite couple breaking up.
Thank you. I made this thread because everywhere I look, I see nothing but blind praise for this character. I just needed to be reminded that I haven't gone insane for thinking otherwise.
>deeply distrubed incel
So, Dan Slott?
>FRICK DISABLED PEOPLE, THEY DON’T GET TO HAVE SUPERHERO CHARACTERS!
>ALSO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WOULD LOVE IF FICTION JUST KEPT MAGICALLY FIXING THEM ALL THE TIME AND PRETENDED THEY AREN’T A THING!
This agressive response leads me to believe it's your OC.
sorry for your condition anon
what would he think about this?
>"Look, Miles. I'll speak real slow so even you people could understand. When Hauptmann Stacy, a great man, died trying to push a israelite kid into the shower I wanted to undo that but I knew that the universes would unravel."
in his universe, the green goblin is just some israeli kid with jaundice.
ironically, this would be a spiderman that supports the canon shit.
It's a (very good) kid's movie dawg
It's pretty clear they're leaning on the whole "anyone could be Spiderman" theme
Grow up and stop being bitter about moronic shit
Nevermind I'm moronic and the first reply made me think you were referring to the movie
Point still stands for the comic
Why are you shocked? It shouldn't have come as a surprise when they turned what was a neat concept of Spider-men from different genres and art styles teaming up into "There's a spider-man for every race, gender and body type! Here's indian spider-man, here's black pregnant spider-man, here's fat lesbian spider-man! Make sure to buy the funko pop of the one that represents you best!"
How the frick does she land?
>Fatigue: Because of E.D.S. Charlie gets exhausted after spending too much time as Sun-Spider
What a hero
I'm just happy they confirmed Gwen as trans. We really needed trans representation in Spider-Man!
more like floor-crawler, the creeper or crippler
Why didn't she just given herself robot legs? Or repair her spine using nanotech or some shit.
She can walk:
Honestly don't care about the idea of a spider-person with a disability that they're able to overcome on account of spider powers (seems a bit moronic because like you'd think the superpowers and the disability would just kinda cancel out in this case but it's comics so whatever).
I do find it hilarious that in her universe people are apparently too stupid to put two and two together that every time the spider girl with gimp legs, crutches, and a wheelchair shows up that one disabled girl who's always around mysteriously disappears though.
Narcoleptic-Spider-Man when?
Spider-Man with crippling arachnophobia when?
Spider-Man with chronic diarrhea
>high evolutionary makes a man-spider that gets bitten by a radioactive spider
We need a spider man who is an Aryan Trapstar
>wrote to character limit about wanting to define Sun Spider if she had a mini series
>browser died
>this has happened multiple times for different posts
A voodoo curse has been put on this thread...
>can't use her legs
>can't let go of her crutches as a result so no hands
How the frick is this character supposed to get anything done
Are you gonna hit a disabled person? Are you gonna do it? In public? Even villains must uphold their street cred
You do not understand what heinous shit I'd get up to for some pussy, homie. I'm gonna knock her crippled as out and then up.
This is funny that her rougue gallery just doesn't want to hit a cripple ao they just bturn themselves in.
What if her entire rogue gallery was also crippled? Dr. Octocrutch, The Green Hoblin', or The Big Wheelchair
What's next Spider Downy Jr? A spiderman who was bitter by a radioactive 21st chromosome?
There's already creator drama with this character because her VA thanked s writer as her creator, people pointed out the writer didn't create her and the writer got pissed and said they did because they gave her personality and that makes them a co-creator.
Remember when Madam Web was cripple but Spider-Man still respect her?
>gets to sit on a giant beanbag chair all day
That's her ass
Madame Web was the character that ruined Spider-Man as a whole.
tonfa webshooters are cool tbh, even if those aren't tonfas.
"My time has come, Sun-Spider! You'll never stop me from forcing Congress to revoke the ADA!"