I'm surprised Comedy Central is still airing this episode.
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it's funny because it's true
It's weird how Matt and Trey are all about liberty and freedom but hate trans.
Part of freedom is the freedom to judge mentally-ill perverts
You don't believe in freedom
freedom doesn't mean "everybody has to be nice to me and cater society to my every whim"
it's a little like that
Different anon:
Why do you say that?
no it isn't, and you're an entitled delusional idiot to think that
How little are we talking?
Society wasn't made to cater to your deluded perversions, anon
I think he's a commie
Trannies force everyone to play along their little larp, that's the opposite of freedom
true dat
They don't hate trans anymore, it's not socially acceptable
>Ends with "I'm not really a woman, and you know what? that's ok".
It's not hate, they just don't like playing along with bullshit.
Then why go along with the multiple gender stuff. You'd think they'd make pronoun jokes or something.
Here's the problem with the trans movement. It actively hinders other's freedoms by forcing people toncomply with another person's warped viewpoint. Do you think I should give some butthole free shit just because he says he's a Nigerian Prince? Not to mention the extremely bad precedent the trans community set by essentially arguing that their is no such thing as empirical truth. How the hell is a society supposed to function if something as basic as one's gender can be changed on a whim based on feeling alone? I guess we should let every murderer go free so long as they truely believe they are innocently even if all empirical evidence points otherwise?
Precisely what harm is dealt to society by allowing people access to sex altering technologies that currently exist; particularly when the technologies are used to reduce suicidality and increase quality of life in a very small segment of the population whose ultimate ideal is to be indistinguishible from the majority? You claim this freedom of expression and right to medical treatment destroys "empirical truth" but i dont see how thats compatible with even basic biology. Sex is not some.immutable tag on your soul, it is a flesh and blood reality consisting of sexual characteristics that can be altered through the use of hormones.
I think its reasonable to ask a creator to keep their stinkers available to the public, agreed.
Lots of harm, actually. It's adorable you pretend chromosomes aren't a thing and you can just turn your biology on and off with a needle full of the wrong hormones, but it just doesn't work like that. Womp womp.
Chromosomes are one sexual characteristic among many. Theyre accounted for in the study of sex lol. Theyre primary characteristics like genitalia which means present at birth. We also have many secondary vharacteristics like facial hair, body hair, vocal tone, skin thickness, fat distribution, waist size, etc. Hormome replacement therapy alters the endocrine system, messenger of the body, to trigger the pubertal response of "the opposite sex". Essentially youre using hrt to alter gene expression mostly for secondaries. Humans evolved to use secondary characteristics for sexual selection, not chromosomes. We never exchange medical records before gendering others. Frankly i dont even know for a fact what chromosomes i have, so rarely are they checked.
If a man is judged by the quality of his enemies and his enemies are just trannies and children, how strong could that man ever have been inside?
Sure, sure. And Michael Jackson was white because he bleached his skin.
Sorry but genetics matter.
Micheal Jackson legitimately had vitiligo.
There's pictures floating of him without makeup on and his skin is patchy.
I guess he decided not to go full blackface eventually and was pale.
Without touching on the topic of sex, the idea being pushed is that they're women regardless of any physical characteristics, as long as they say and believe they're women. And then allowing them to do things like compete against women because of that.
Sorry, according to who precisely? Because youre describing what is at best a simplified version of one way of looking at this. Obviously we seek to change our sex and obviously we are more convincing aesthetically when we claim to be men or women once we look like one. Thing is that to reach that state one must acknowledge and publicly to some extent state that their current sex does not suit them, that they wish to change. Of course it looks silly when a man says "i am a woman, i wish i had been born a woman, i would like to be as womanly in body as possible" thats very much the distress theyre experiencing 24/7, the disconnect that to you is just a joke. And its a discomnect fixed through adjusting the body since no other treatment for this likely neurological condition has born fruit. But before hrt you must state your gender and often it must be psychologically examined. You dont just "declare yourself" another sex on a whim, thats not what any of this is built on except some online enclaves of shut ins without power in the medical system. And thats a minority INSIDE a minority lol
>Sorry, according to who precisely?
Don't play dumb, everybody in this thread has seen it.
>But before hrt you must state your gender and often it must be psychologically examined. You dont just "declare yourself" another sex on a whim
There's plenty of transpeople online who aren't on HRT and don't go through any examination. Not everyone agrees with your standards. Besides the absurd idea that HRT makes you a woman, at what point do you believe it makes you a woman? We have 50 year old men on HRT for a month, are they women?
How much HRT do you need to be non-binary (neither a man nor a woman)?
>Don't play dumb, everybody in this thread has seen it.
I havent, not in any great numbers and this thread is full of misinformation. Im not playing dumb im playing informed and youre not.
>Besides the absurd idea that HRT makes you a woman, at what point do you believe it makes you a woman?
If i add hairs to a balding mans head he eventually stops being balding, how many hairs do we need to do that? Is it an integer we can name or a variable based on visual stimilus?
>we have 50 year old men on HRT for a month, are they women?
Gender? Yes. Sex? No it takes at least at least 6 months imho, thats when secondaries develop more strongly
>nonbinary
Thats gender, no hrt needed for a personal identity.
>Im not playing dumb im playing informed and youre not.
Practically every online community and workplace plays by the rules I'm talking about.
>Thats gender, no hrt needed for a personal identity.
Correct. They use the vague idea of gender to determine if people are "women" or not, not sex. Even you are doing this in your post. They're pushing for society to identify man or woman based on gender, not sex.
>If i add hairs to a balding mans head he eventually stops being balding, how many hairs do we need to do that?
Exactly. Fallacy of the beard is exactly why so many trans arguments about sex are moronic. We have no trouble determining sex with rare exceptions. A 50 year old man on HRT for 6 months is unambiguously male in almost all cases.
>I havent, not in any great numbers
>I haven't seen it
>Well, I have but not a lot
There's no cohesive beliefs or scientific basis that form a universally understood truth about what being trans means, how it should be treated, and so on. Even amongst trannies, you have people who have psychotic revulsion to their own penises, but you also have the "I want to frick lesbians with my girl dick" crowd.
It amounts to an umbrella term for perverts, predators, the psychologically unstable, and delusional homosexualry, which ultimately means that it is not something that deserves respect, deference, or special considerations and preferential treatment from the rest of society.
>Precisely what harm is dealt to society by allowing people access to sex altering technologies that currently exist
Adverse effects of Hormone Treatments
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/8/3467/2845109?login=false
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585531/
Study finds bone issues versus the actual results of lupron is not worth the risk:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa013555#t=articleTop
Study finds five unrelated children developed the same bone disease within only years of taking the drug:
https://karger.com/hrp/article-abstract/80/1/64/166303/Occurrence-of-Slipped-Capital-Femoral-Epiphysis-in?redirectedFrom=PDF
Not to mention suicide rates remained the same regardless of treatment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/
>The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide
Then why do trannies demand punishments for anyone who doesn't flatter them? Why do they want access to other people's kids?
The problem is that self-acceptance was pushed aside for self-delusion.
It's much healthier to accept who and what you are and then work from there.
It's much unhealthier to regress into dreaming about a fantasy life as a stereotyped idea of the other gender and insist that this fantasy life should become reality.
Unfortunately the second is much more profitable and thus has a larger lobby.
If trans people accepted the reality of being a trans person and wanted to live that trans life, then that's on them. But trans people idealize being the other gender and want reality to treat them as if they're entirely different people than they are. That's putting a lot of shit on other people.
TL;DR: It's feels vs reals.
There's no harm in being allowed to express yourself however you like. But expecting everyone to be accepting of that is silly and getting upset that society isn't catered around your newfound identity is even sillier.
Also wait wtf if your comic is that fetish art of pinocchio as a trans woman? Pinocchio is a small child you sick weirdos jesus christ. Look bad enough youre going to make a weird transphobic comic where you show a trans child with a massive erection, but its extra creepy to make it disney based. Matt walsh pedophile ass motherfrickers god damn
>thinks a funny comic is sexual
Of course a troony is gonna make these accusations since all they can do is project.
Relevant: https://youtu.be/o-W_f49tleo?si=Nu2HWTS6wbYRM_NU&t=576
TLDW: Felt Identity is Cancer
I like puppet girls, not sure if I'd like puppet femboys.
But they are pretty customizable, Anon
If you force me to participate in your personal delusions, that is not freedom.
That's not a contradiction, trannies are tyrants who think they have the right to use force on other people
You are so weak. Trannies should inject your blood for all the estrogen flowing through it.
Freedom to hate and mock authoritarian homosexuals who demand special rights and protections that cause harm to others.
The #cancel South Park season/campaign was too far up it's own ass to see that libs and lefties can like the show just fine. At worst they b***h about what SP did to politics; it framed caring about politics as uncool or nonsense and anyone with a strong opinion or idea as misinformed, the cool "truth" not needing much thinking to defend. Not eating meat makes you a pussy. Caring about the environment and climate change isn't real, its just people sniffing their own farts. Children are colorblind and can't be racist. Children don't know what "homosexual" means so gays should be fine with the word.
There's a common trend where "libertarians" really just like abolishing affirmative action, the concept of hate speech, and want to legally castle doctrine every Black person that steps onto their property.
>There's a common trend where "libertarians" really just like abolishing affirmative action, the concept of hate speech, and want to legally castle doctrine every Black person that steps onto their property.
Maybe, but that doesn't apply to Matt and Trey at all
Affirmative action is racist. The best qualified person should be chosen for the job, and skin color, pick or brown, is not a qualifier
Meh on "hate speech" cuz the only ones crying about it are groomers and mentally ill men who wish they were women
And Libertarians and other non-lefties want to legally castle doctrine every Black person that BREAKS INTO our private property or attempts to forcibly/illegally do so.
You try to seem like you're not a lefty, but you deliberately mischaracterize the issues you bring up to make them sound unreasonable. As lefties do. Your problems with the issues are silly, as you can clearly see how things are in places where YOUR ideals are made law (liberal areas that are becoming damn near Gotham minus Batman where you LITERALLY have to practice segregation because the minorities WILL not be punished for what they do to you) vs red states, where everybody is more or less on a civil code of conduct towards each other, aside from some idiot Pookies and Shenaenae's.
Libertarians want discrimination to be legal is what I mean. Affirmative action is shitty, but being able to legally discrimination more than is already legal, to be able to blatantly say "no Black folk" is the type of "don't tread on me" many seek.
"Hate speech" is still an issue beyond gay issues.
And no, the idea of property defense meaning anyone who steps on property is very libertarian. You can already kill people for breaking into your house.
I'm not mischaraterizing, a truly libertarian state requires you to violently defend your property because the state will get worse at enforcing and protecting. That's a good thing to most libertarians, but it does come with the added need to walk on eggshells because a weaker state relies on your awareness of a "civil code" and how others may view you as more threatening or closer to violating it based on how you look. And if you don't like it, you can leave it. The legal hate speech and discrimination creates a hostile environment to undesirables.
>"Hate speech" is still an issue beyond gay issues.
But it shouldn't be illegal. That's not a radical position. Free speech requires allowing speech that people will consider hateful. Not everybody will have the same ideas about what counts as hate speech, and sometimes something correct will be called hate speech.
Preach.
We've tried that. It was a fricking disaster. Why are you adamant about repating history's worst mistakes over and over again? Or are you merely ignorant to the point where you don't know our history?
>We've tried that. It was a fricking disaster.
How? No seriously how? What made up scenario in your head made Free Speech a disaster?
>We've tried that. It was a fricking disaster.
Excuse me? Valuing free expression has not been a disaster.
You should look at what passes for hate speech and hate crime. It's not just saying "Black person" and the ACLU defended a nazi's ability to fly a swastika. Hate speech is when the harassment and intimation is racially motivated and comes with the intention of pushing out undesirables. It's one thing to be a nazi and hold nazi beliefs, but when the intention is known that you get racist with people for the purpose of making an ethnicity go away, it becomes punishable by hate speech laws. There is no mass arrest of Total Black person Death posters. You can post all day about giving leftists helicopter rides on social media.
>Hate speech is when the harassment and intimation is racially motivated and comes with the intention of pushing out undesirables
According to you and certain laws, not according to everybody. To others, hate speech might be saying transwomen aren't women.
Even your definition is too vague. There are already laws against harassment and intimidation, what do hate speech laws cover that those don't?
I've got to ask, what country are you from?
>not according to everybody.
Yes, anon, a lot of people can be incorrect about something.
The definition isn't vague, it comes with a specific intention. Notice how the Zimmerman vs rip Tray Tray case never included hate crime charges even though Zimzam said "fricking coons" when he was told not to engage.
>what do hate speech laws cover that those don't?
A certain intention. It's like how killing someone accidentally and purposefully have many different outcomes and charges associated with them depending on intent and conditions.
I'm American, how about you?
Staying on topic, we're seeing how the hate crime episode of South Park got it wrong and supported an incorrect idea of what it is.
You're talking about hate crime laws, not hate speech laws. Not the same thing.
>>what do hate speech laws cover that those don't?
>A certain intention. It's like how killing someone accidentally and purposefully have many different outcomes and charges associated with them depending on intent and conditions.
I'm talking about hate speech. You can call someone names and harass someone because you hate them and you want them to leave, but when you're targeting someone because of their race and you're making it clear you want their whole race to leave, it's different. On one hand, one individual is targeted, on the other, everyone of a certain race is being targeted. Again, it's based on intention and motivation.
>Trayvon
>Innocent
I'm not saying he's innocent. Zimmerman was clearly in the right when he was attacked. I'm saying that for as oppressive hate speech and hate crime are memed to be, they weren't even part of that case.
>Yes, anon, a lot of people can be incorrect about something.
Are you denying that other types of hate speech laws? Look at Germany and the rules they want for social media. The stuff you're talking about isn't the only form of hate speech law proposed or in-effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act
Or Ireland's
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/07/13/government-to-bring-forward-laws-on-hate-crime-and-hate-speech/
>I'm talking about hate speech
No you're not, because there are no laws against hate speech in America.
>On one hand, one individual is targeted, on the other, everyone of a certain race is being targeted
Saying transwomen aren't women to someone targets all transwomen.
Or stuff like this
I'm talking American law because the show takes place in America and it's made by American libertarians.
>free speech means not having to see twitter posts about "reporting" cyberbullies
I know these countries have some bad laws but this is dumb.
Not understanding what free speech is is an American tradition. Remember the "free speech" protests against Marvel for editors declining sexy art for their comics? The rights of the editors and staff weren't considered, free speech in that case meant giving every artist you hire no direction and being forced to accept what they make.
Free speech already doesn't always protect people from accusations of intimidation, slander, and others.
>free speech means not having to see twitter posts about "reporting" cyberbullies
Alright, you're either trolling or legitimately too dumb to understand that police asking you to report people for their speech is bad for free speech.
Even if it's not a crime it's pretty bad. They did arrest an autistic 16 year old girl though for saying a female officer "looked like her lesbian nana".
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-66462895
>I know these countries have some bad laws but this is dumb.
Glad you can agree on that at least.
That's not what she said, that's what her mother said she said. She was autistic and it's possible that she kept on asking and following the officer, not meaning to be annoying or maybe even thinking it's funny. I wasn't there, but it's likely that she didn't simple just say "you look like my Nana who is a lesbian" and then she got slammed. Possible, but not likely.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/tonje-gjevjon-faces-up-to-3-years-in-prison-for-saying-men-cannot-be-lesbians/
Do this one, while you're correcting headlines. I have no idea if it's accurate or not. I'd be happy to learn it's wrong.
https://www.reuters.com/article/norway-lgbt-lawmaking/norway-outlaws-hate-speech-against-trans-people-idUSKBN2852DL
>Norway’s parliament outlawed hate speech against transgender people on Tuesday, expanding its penal code which has protected gay and lesbian people since 1981.
>People found guilty of hate speech face a fine or up to a year in jail for private remarks, and a maximum of three years in jail for public comments, according to the penal code.
Even if that incident isn't accurately described, it seems like they do have laws against it. No idea what the details are though.
Maybe she should just not say stuff like that? Is that really so hard?
Maybe people should be able to say the truth openly
I wasn't there either, they dropped the case in the end at least
I understand people are encouraged to report all sorts of activity. That's why when it comes to shooters the FBI often already had background info. When it comes to hate crime and hate speech, you need to build a case based on intention. If you have background info that the offender is actually racist, using what you had reported before their excuse of "I was just quoting a rap song" has less of a chance of working.
But yes, I'm unfamiliar so it might just be that they're arresting people for being mean.
Fair enough. To be totally honest, it wasn't the tweet I originally intended to post (got image names mixed up) and wasn't the best example for illustrating the point.
>I'm American, how about you?
It's very sad that you admit to being an American but have such a poor understanding of free speech
Yeah, it's grim
>to be able to blatantly say "no Black folk" is the type of "don't tread on me" many seek.
You homosexuals unironically do the same shit and claim you're in tue right. Pic related.
How is that equivalent? The pride flags weren't everywhere, they're part of the game and pride flags don't mean "no straights".
You homosexuals litterally got a mod removed from a service because you didn't care for the fact it removed completely innocuous content. It is no different than some butthole removing a game from their stor because it features black people.
It's more like someone made a "no blacks" mod and the devs removed it.
That's not removing content, that's opening yourself up for criticism by streaming and then getting harassed. The harassment was wrong. It's not twitch having a "no blacks" policy.
who is arguing that twitch should have a no blacks policy?
It's the comparison trying to be made:
>to be able to blatantly say "no Black folk" is the type of "don't tread on me" many seek.
You mean an individual twitch channel? They should be able to implement a no Black folk policy. The entire site no, but there also shouldn't be a no TERFs policy, even one enforced by mob rule
The twitch should have free speech just to see how the shitshow would go.
Me.
what about the mass report campaign? vtuber mentioned she had her content reported for violating TOS so that is an attempt to remove content. Did not go through for her but other streamers did have mass amounts of content deleted due to targeted report campaigns (although destiny low key seems kinda racist)
When you mass report and abuse tools to achieve a censorship campaign I do believe that counts as censorship
Hogwarts Legacy's controversy is a even better example
How so?
troons harassing streamers for playing a game based on a book series written by a transphobe
Missing from this image is the fact that the mod just made it so the game thought it was being played in a middle eastern country
Wait is that fricking true? lol
Shouldn't the devs be the ones getting the heat for having that mode in there then?
Not true, though it's believable sadly considering stuff like
>really just like abolishing affirmative action, the concept of hate speech
I'm a card-carrying leftie and that sounds good
That's why libertarians were traditionally leftie. Giving individuals power away from the elite elected officials to say and do what they want is generally leftie, but it swings into rightwing when you realize that it creates an environment of rule by ownership. Power is then only based on property ownership and the means to protect and control with violence.
>There's a common trend where "libertarians" really just like abolishing affirmative action, the concept of hate speech, and want to legally castle doctrine every Black person that steps onto their property.
ask me how i know you're baiting.
look at this graph. every time I do it makes me laugh
>but hate trans
this is volatile rhetoric that has both made great strides in "trans rights" and will forever hold it back from being truly accepted.
I guess that's why influencing children is the most valuable goal.
They were from a time where no one was politically consistent. Remember they thought global warming was a joke too.
Global warming is a joke
The average person didn't care nearly as much about politics back then. Which I preferred, it was nicer than everybody being super opinionated and aggressive while still uninformed or stupid.
i stopped taking global warming seriously when I remembered that one time when I was a kid and saw on the news something about experts claiming that by 2012 there would be no ice sheets on the arctic anymore
>some scientists that make headlines get things wrong sometimes
That's not completely on you, but looking into it a little helps you understand how that happens.
more like the media sells the most apocalyptic scenario possible to increase viewership
you stopped caring about politics because of a non political subject?
Everyone hates trannies. Even trannies themselves.
The self-hate is why the suicide rate is so high. That and they can't get laid. Things get extreme when crazy guys can't get laid. Don't be surprised if you hear a report about a guy beating up a group of trans...because they viagra'd his drink, followed him from the bar/club, then tried to gangrape him.
I never laughed at this image for being a trans person hanging themselves, just that it's a basedjak hanging themselves.
Sorry, I meant to say basedjak, not basedjak.
I see
What the frick is going on? I keep trying to type in "onions" but it keeps coming out as "based"!!
That means your computer has that one virus. Reformat your hard drive before it does any more damage
The trannies haven't threatened to bomb them, so they don't care.
Why wouldn't they? South Park mocks everyone.
Not really.
god's chosen people are a protected class in SP
People that would be offended by it likely believe that its so silly typical SouthPark antics it must have nothing to do with them at all. Mental gymnastics is expected by the mentally ill all the time.
My favorite part that should break trans people is when he's trying to have a baby and realizes only women can have babies no matter what which means he's not a woman at all so why did he do all this if he cant be a woman and gets pissed off.
Garrison wasn't charged or convicted of a crime, and he's not slandering the prophet M*h*mm*d. Why would they remove this episode?
still annoying how they censored the Muhammed stuff
Now I'm imagining pigeon Norm MacDonald breaking up a fight between ghost Napoleon and ghost Hitler
Episode told the future.
No trannies were always like this they just weren't as in your face and prevalent.
And I'm surprised that the strongly presented and direct and yet it goes over people's head.
I still laugh at the title "Eek, A Penis"
Why not? Truth should always air.
Honestly don’t agree with its message and I think matt and trey don’t even agree with it either anymore but I’m glad they aren’t gonna get rid of it, it deserves to stay around just like their manbearpig episode
>It's ok to get a sex change operation, you'll just have to admit you'll never be a real woman
By today's standards, if this episode came out right now, would Cinemaphile consider it "Le epin based" or "Le cringe fail"?
I think that trannies should just be called intersex and social females to avoid all that shit.
>It's ok to get a sex change operation, you'll just have to admit you'll never be a real woman
I'm okay with this, along with not allowing sex changes or hormones/blockers for kids.
imagine my surprise when i turned on the radio and heard “Dude Looks Like a Lady”
Every once in a while I'll still hear them play the second verse of Money For Nothing on the radio
It's super rare, and always a welcome surprise
Adult Swim is never going to bring back Super Jail! unless they remove, replace, or redesign Alice, right? Do they even air reruns of the show?
What do you think Trey and Matt's opinion on Sam Hyde is like?