Will did nothing wrong and is unironically the hero in the film. If he had let Rambo go, word would spread, and soon there'd be a tent city in the town full of useless bums like Rambo. Will should've shot him in the head and dumped him in the river.
>If he had let Rambo go, word would spread
lmao >legend has it that there is a small town in the middle of nowhere where you can walk straight through the town without getting accosted by the cops
He had no right. Was acting no better than a common territorial thug. Fricked around and found out, and Rambo overreacted and chimped out. Either party deserves what they got. The hero is Trautman for reining their little homie moment in.
>overreacted
He didn't overreact. They were beating him, and had arrested, imprisoned, and fined him for literally no reason. He reacted enough to get free, and escape such people. React any less, and he's not getting free, just beat harder and punished more. Then they chased him and wouldn't leave him alone.
It's America moron.
He wasn't going to be falsely imprisoned forever without charges like some 3rd world shit. Hick towns aren't fricking Guantanamo Bay either.
He'd have been out on OR within a week or two at worst, and ironically told to stay in town for his court date if they even bothered trumping up charges against him. If not, he'd have been out in 72 hours tops without being charged. Escaping police custody is the dumbest shit you can do if you're innocent because then you're facing real time and/or ludicrous fines that you've now 100% earned, and "they beat me" isn't going to exonerate that crime when every cop there says you were being unruly and dangerous in your noncompliance.
Also the overreacting I was referring to wasn't running off, so much as. . . you know, the fricking booby trapping, "I'll give you a war you wouldn't believe", running around town blowing shit up with a machine gun and whatnot.
Frick the movie, this is real advice for any of you Black person-brain dindus dumb enough to think "dey wuz mean to me" and "b-b-beated me" is license to do anything other than lawyer up and sue them for all they're worth. Don't run, don't try to escape jail, don't resist the beating if you're getting one, don't talk, don't do any-fricking-thing until you're in a room with your lawyer. In the US anyway. Don't know the protocols for dealing with kangaroo courts in bumfrickistan or whatever where it might actually be better to run. But even then, if you're going to run, run. Don't pull some take those wienersuckers down with me murder/suicide by cop b.s.
you dumb ultra Black person, we quite literally have political prisoners sitting in cells in DC right now and purposefully having their trials dragged out to punish them
we had a kangaroo court convict a man because a suspect he was arresting died of a fentanyl overdose, because the jurors were scared of choosing a not guilty verdict
we're just as bad as many dictatorships and people have been arrested, charged, and thrown into jail on bullshit even if they have a lawyer because the only surefire way to avoid punishment is to be rich and you better not target other rich people, otherwise it's straight to jail
Didn't read past 3rd world.
America tortures people indefinately without charge. It's a shithole like any other country. By no means an exception in any sense.
Blah blah blah, you think exceptions to the norm somehow changes what happens in 99.8% of arrests. Cops don't lock US citizens up and throw away the key without trial for routine vagrancy, or have sway with the judge to give you weird sentences just because the arresting officer that isn't even needed in court for such minor crimes didn't like your attitude.
We're talking about Rambo, and what would have likely happened for what he did up to the point before he freaked the frick out. If he took his lumps and didn't pull some assault/escape shit for the sake of plot. He'd have been fine.
He didn't have FBI on him pretending he's a terrorist, he wasn't out protesting and got unlucky as the guy they picked to make an example of, there wasn't some media circus trial of public opinion swaying a judge to convict or risk riots in the streets making him a martyr, he didn't commit some crime with ridiculous min/max sentencing and talk shit to the judge to get the book thrown at him, no cop planted narcotics or a gun on him, there was no murder recently they were just taking the lazy way out pinning it on some bum, there were no hate speech or cyber bulling thought crimes to pin on him in the 70s that are unjust at any sentencing regardless of guilt, or whatever outlier you could come up with.
He was maybe, as a first time offender, facing trespassing and some misdemeanor for the knife he had on him if that state's knife laws are pozzed. Getting roughed up, deloused, and a shave/haircut is no reason to believe it's flee, go down for hard time, or get beaten to death. That's the whole reason they made him have the PTSD flashback episode. To make his irrational breakout somewhat sympathetic as not entirely within his control as oppose to being seen as the complete frick up he would be if he went "Hey, you can't hit me. That's a violation of my rights" headbutted a guard, and leapt out the window like your aspiring Looney Tunes ass would.
>Small town Sheriff’s department in rural White America of the 1980s >overzealous and politically motivated feds of a multicultural despotic government decades later
You realize the two scenarios aren’t the same
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_County_ritual_abuse_case
just a small example of the kind of crazy shit that happens in small towns, going all the way back to the 80s
>Small town Sheriff’s department in rural White America of the 1980s >overzealous and politically motivated feds of a multicultural despotic government decades later
You realize the two scenarios aren’t the same
Didn't read past 3rd world.
America tortures people indefinately without charge. It's a shithole like any other country. By no means an exception in any sense.
They went too far arresting and physically abusing him in prison. After he escaped they could've just decided to cut losses and leave it at that, but they escalated the situation against a guy who was willing and able to escalate right back.
What? We have a cuck mayor and a israelite DA. They let criminals, bums, and junkies destroy our city. When I was a kid we had Mayor Nutter and DA Lynn Abraham and they locked up everybody and the city was safer than it had been in decades. Now it’s hell on earth.
You think that old white cowboy sherif is some kind of raging shitlib? This city desperately needs law and order. I’m scared to let my dog sniff my shoes when I get home because there’s so many syringes in the street
Born and raised here. My family has been here since colonial times before the revolution. There are streets named after us. I’m not going to up and leave my city ever
It's never gonna get better brother, growing up you had nigs and prs here which is bad enough but it's full of fricking mexicans and Brazilians now, it's a complete shithole
He wasn't even hanging around, he literally just wanted to pass through and keep on going. If they objected to his presence so badly they could have just dropped him off on the edge of town, told him to frick off, and he would have complied. The arrest and beating was just an impotent flex of power.
Of course the REAL reason they did what they did was because the writer wanted to scapegoat small town white cops (probably one of the most pro-veteran groups in the country) for all the venom and bile irl vets received from leftist students and hippies.
>small town white cops >good for anything
they might vote red, unless their pension is threatened, but they are nobodies friend
in small towns they're even worse because of less oversight
they are in a gang, and you're not part of it
If a small town didn't want me walking through I'd have no problem leaving. It's not my home. They deserve to live how they want. Rambo was in the wrong.
The Sherriff is a c**t but he didn't really do anything wrong. It was Galt that set Rambo off. If it wasn't for Galt, John probably would have just sat in the holding cell for a day and been booted out of town.
Honestly the best thing the Sherriff could have done was grab Rambo some lunch, cost him maybe $3 back then, and drove him to the edge of the county and not been a prick about it. He'd have never seen the guy again.
Or really just keep an eye on him. The Sheriff wasn't gonna have anything to do, he even says it's a quiet town and that's how they like it. Just leave the guy alone until he actually starts something. But Sheriff had the power, so there was no reason to wait if he could flex on Rambo.
Vietnam vets always crying about how they were treated when they got back... did they ever consider that they fricking LOST? Maybe if you didn't fricking feed and throw the war people would have treated you better
He treated Rambo a man (Rambo) poorly who happened to be one of the most deadly weapons of the United Stated military. He pushed and pushed until Rambo pushed back.
Will did nothing wrong and is unironically the hero in the film. If he had let Rambo go, word would spread, and soon there'd be a tent city in the town full of useless bums like Rambo. Will should've shot him in the head and dumped him in the river.
>If he had let Rambo go, word would spread
lmao
>legend has it that there is a small town in the middle of nowhere where you can walk straight through the town without getting accosted by the cops
kek - I read this in Sam Elliot's voice
but i wont back down!
Yup, just look at the place now.
>Will did nothing wrong and is unironically the hero in the film.
Agreed.
I used to think I was the only one who felt this way.
>in his town
I didn't know that the U.S is a feudalistic state
Try that city boy gaytalk in a small town bucko.
You're not aware of Vigilante Day, are you?
Im sorry for using big and difficult words like feudalistic, i didn't want to hurt your brain
oh, you're a butthurt libtard sodomite. I see.
The subtext is that he's a Korea vet
It's overt in the novel, I don't know why they left it out
People never talk about how handsome Sylvester Stallone is
He looks like a pigeon
Because he’s not.
we're not a bunch of queers here
SEXOOO
homie looks like the missing link between a neanderthal and a bathroom sink
Anti italian discrimination
Breaks xenia; one of the oldest traditions of mankind.
He had no right. Was acting no better than a common territorial thug. Fricked around and found out, and Rambo overreacted and chimped out. Either party deserves what they got. The hero is Trautman for reining their little homie moment in.
>overreacted
He didn't overreact. They were beating him, and had arrested, imprisoned, and fined him for literally no reason. He reacted enough to get free, and escape such people. React any less, and he's not getting free, just beat harder and punished more. Then they chased him and wouldn't leave him alone.
It's America moron.
He wasn't going to be falsely imprisoned forever without charges like some 3rd world shit. Hick towns aren't fricking Guantanamo Bay either.
He'd have been out on OR within a week or two at worst, and ironically told to stay in town for his court date if they even bothered trumping up charges against him. If not, he'd have been out in 72 hours tops without being charged. Escaping police custody is the dumbest shit you can do if you're innocent because then you're facing real time and/or ludicrous fines that you've now 100% earned, and "they beat me" isn't going to exonerate that crime when every cop there says you were being unruly and dangerous in your noncompliance.
Also the overreacting I was referring to wasn't running off, so much as. . . you know, the fricking booby trapping, "I'll give you a war you wouldn't believe", running around town blowing shit up with a machine gun and whatnot.
Frick the movie, this is real advice for any of you Black person-brain dindus dumb enough to think "dey wuz mean to me" and "b-b-beated me" is license to do anything other than lawyer up and sue them for all they're worth. Don't run, don't try to escape jail, don't resist the beating if you're getting one, don't talk, don't do any-fricking-thing until you're in a room with your lawyer. In the US anyway. Don't know the protocols for dealing with kangaroo courts in bumfrickistan or whatever where it might actually be better to run. But even then, if you're going to run, run. Don't pull some take those wienersuckers down with me murder/suicide by cop b.s.
you dumb ultra Black person, we quite literally have political prisoners sitting in cells in DC right now and purposefully having their trials dragged out to punish them
we had a kangaroo court convict a man because a suspect he was arresting died of a fentanyl overdose, because the jurors were scared of choosing a not guilty verdict
we're just as bad as many dictatorships and people have been arrested, charged, and thrown into jail on bullshit even if they have a lawyer because the only surefire way to avoid punishment is to be rich and you better not target other rich people, otherwise it's straight to jail
Blah blah blah, you think exceptions to the norm somehow changes what happens in 99.8% of arrests. Cops don't lock US citizens up and throw away the key without trial for routine vagrancy, or have sway with the judge to give you weird sentences just because the arresting officer that isn't even needed in court for such minor crimes didn't like your attitude.
We're talking about Rambo, and what would have likely happened for what he did up to the point before he freaked the frick out. If he took his lumps and didn't pull some assault/escape shit for the sake of plot. He'd have been fine.
He didn't have FBI on him pretending he's a terrorist, he wasn't out protesting and got unlucky as the guy they picked to make an example of, there wasn't some media circus trial of public opinion swaying a judge to convict or risk riots in the streets making him a martyr, he didn't commit some crime with ridiculous min/max sentencing and talk shit to the judge to get the book thrown at him, no cop planted narcotics or a gun on him, there was no murder recently they were just taking the lazy way out pinning it on some bum, there were no hate speech or cyber bulling thought crimes to pin on him in the 70s that are unjust at any sentencing regardless of guilt, or whatever outlier you could come up with.
He was maybe, as a first time offender, facing trespassing and some misdemeanor for the knife he had on him if that state's knife laws are pozzed. Getting roughed up, deloused, and a shave/haircut is no reason to believe it's flee, go down for hard time, or get beaten to death. That's the whole reason they made him have the PTSD flashback episode. To make his irrational breakout somewhat sympathetic as not entirely within his control as oppose to being seen as the complete frick up he would be if he went "Hey, you can't hit me. That's a violation of my rights" headbutted a guard, and leapt out the window like your aspiring Looney Tunes ass would.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_County_ritual_abuse_case
just a small example of the kind of crazy shit that happens in small towns, going all the way back to the 80s
>Small town Sheriff’s department in rural White America of the 1980s
>overzealous and politically motivated feds of a multicultural despotic government decades later
You realize the two scenarios aren’t the same
Didn't read past 3rd world.
America tortures people indefinately without charge. It's a shithole like any other country. By no means an exception in any sense.
>just take it on le chin bro
the point of the movie is that rambo is someone who is sick of taking it
Peak cuckservative
They went too far arresting and physically abusing him in prison. After he escaped they could've just decided to cut losses and leave it at that, but they escalated the situation against a guy who was willing and able to escalate right back.
I live in philadelphia. I wish we had a guy like this in charge of the police.
You literally do. That's why no one wants to stay in that shithole lmao
What? We have a cuck mayor and a israelite DA. They let criminals, bums, and junkies destroy our city. When I was a kid we had Mayor Nutter and DA Lynn Abraham and they locked up everybody and the city was safer than it had been in decades. Now it’s hell on earth.
why, so he make you wear 80 masks while Black folks burn down your house
You think that old white cowboy sherif is some kind of raging shitlib? This city desperately needs law and order. I’m scared to let my dog sniff my shoes when I get home because there’s so many syringes in the street
>I live in Philadelphia
Why
Born and raised here. My family has been here since colonial times before the revolution. There are streets named after us. I’m not going to up and leave my city ever
It's never gonna get better brother, growing up you had nigs and prs here which is bad enough but it's full of fricking mexicans and Brazilians now, it's a complete shithole
>save me daddy government !!
It’s not like I’m allowed to go around shooting junkies or I would. You think it’s controversial or somehow weak that I want cops to do their jobs?
Is it really illegal to be a clown in America?
What is that clownkino anon?
Killer Clowns From Outerspace
Ty
Acccctually its killer klowns from outer space
Sorry
Students side against soldiers because heroism makes them look like shit. Students lose wars and are tje real enemy soldiers should fight.
Childhood was hating the cop
Adulthood is understanding and even supporting him to a point.
>supporting cops ever
God you're a tool.
ironic
>hanging around
Oh, the humanity.
He wasn't even hanging around, he literally just wanted to pass through and keep on going. If they objected to his presence so badly they could have just dropped him off on the edge of town, told him to frick off, and he would have complied. The arrest and beating was just an impotent flex of power.
Of course the REAL reason they did what they did was because the writer wanted to scapegoat small town white cops (probably one of the most pro-veteran groups in the country) for all the venom and bile irl vets received from leftist students and hippies.
They did drop him off and he just came back. They should have just arrested him beat him up and thrown him in a ditch far outside town.
>small town white cops
>good for anything
they might vote red, unless their pension is threatened, but they are nobodies friend
in small towns they're even worse because of less oversight
they are in a gang, and you're not part of it
That's literally what happened in the movie. Cop drops him off at the other side of town but Rambo comes back because he wants to grab dinner.
If a small town didn't want me walking through I'd have no problem leaving. It's not my home. They deserve to live how they want. Rambo was in the wrong.
The Sherriff is a c**t but he didn't really do anything wrong. It was Galt that set Rambo off. If it wasn't for Galt, John probably would have just sat in the holding cell for a day and been booted out of town.
Honestly the best thing the Sherriff could have done was grab Rambo some lunch, cost him maybe $3 back then, and drove him to the edge of the county and not been a prick about it. He'd have never seen the guy again.
Or really just keep an eye on him. The Sheriff wasn't gonna have anything to do, he even says it's a quiet town and that's how they like it. Just leave the guy alone until he actually starts something. But Sheriff had the power, so there was no reason to wait if he could flex on Rambo.
This is an accurate portrayal how you are treated in America if you don't own a car
Vietnam vets always crying about how they were treated when they got back... did they ever consider that they fricking LOST? Maybe if you didn't fricking feed and throw the war people would have treated you better
wow such tasty bait and totally not actually a rancid turd
He needed to control his MAGA emotions.
>imagine being arrested for walking on your country
yup, the land of the free...
Rambo is pro walkable cities
Cops are pro cars
None of it would have happened if Rambo just used this
He treated Rambo a man (Rambo) poorly who happened to be one of the most deadly weapons of the United Stated military. He pushed and pushed until Rambo pushed back.
if you ever wanted to watch Brian Dennehy be an even bigger butthole: