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>not thinking in images, words, ideas, and feelings
ngmi
>y’all
Dropped.
So is this the new npc?
Also,frick you zoomers.
that's a youtuber, not a writer.
its quite easy to think youtubers are all 5s.
He wrote The Fault in Our Stars
okay
Exactly
the mid in our ass more like it
nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk
He wrote The Fault in Our Stars and a bunch of other tearjerker shit.
Funniest thing on his youtube channel was when someone posted a clip of Mt. Rainier from the Center St. Target parking lot in Tacoma with a caption like "Don't get views like this in the midwest" and he went on a massive copium rant about how Indianapolis has (flat) bike trails and (stagnant) canals and (ugly) outdoor art exhibits. Like totally unhinged.
he’s one of the best selling authors of the past two decades
pffffft
If you cant spin a perfect apple in full realism inside your head, bite it, taste ir, chew it and swallow it in full reality mode then you're not white.
he cute
why is it that all shitty AI art has this sort of "glossy" look. Immediate tell that its AI.
sample count isn't high enough
The future is shiny.
It doesn't understand consistent lighting/the people training it haven't bothered to train on that
Specular information is its own map in 3D rendering which also encompasses things like the translucence of your ears and fingertips, but it's calculated off of surrounding lighting and in the case of the human face it varies wildly due to concentration of oil glands. AI is moronic about this and tries to guess from photo references.
dis homie eating beans
If you can't imagine the feeling of apple peel stuck in your teeth, you shouldn't be allowed to vote
i can do this and im not white.
>im not white
ugh
You are now buddy
>try to do this
>imagine it as 1 just fine
>bite it just fine
>taste it just fine
>chew it just fine
>spit it out instead
wtf why did my brain do that
bad apple
you were molested
I can't taste, my mental tastes are limited to the basic 4 more or less.
i can. im not white per say but my skin is wite
genuinely don't understand how you can't do this if you don't have some kind of disability, I'm not even smart or creative
What's crazy to me is that people think they are smart because they can do 1 and think that people who say they can only do 5 are dumb and not SEE that everyone arguing is moronicly overlooking the definitions within our argument. Everyone here can imagine an apple and are imagining it the same way. The variance is not in execution but in how we are describing the experience of said execution.
makes sense, language is a pretty flawed tool when it comes to this stuff
>language is a pretty flawed
Eh, it's just that most people are bad at articulating their thoughts. Honestly articulation is probably more important than being able to imagine an apple. Although there probably is a correlation between being unable to picture an apple and being unable to articulate your thoughts in your own words. Articulation is definitely a skill that can be improved, not that the current internet is really helping with that because everything is memes and repetitive phrases.
What's articulation beyond just "you can understand me"
I don't think there's much more to it. It is just the ability to explain what is happening inside your brain, the difficulty in that lies in the fact that a lot of our brain operates subconsciously so things that may make perfect sense to you might not make any sense once you say it out loud and making it make sense is articulation. It's difficult to articulate all this.
Being able to do 1 doesn't make you inherently smart but if you can't see how this translates to other things you may have mental problems of your own. Another example is looking at language, all the worst races have simple languages, as in not even dealing with time or able to explain anything complicated.
I just did this, I imagine the taste too and create new variations of tastes by imagining mixing em with other tastes
It’s basically just daydreaming, almost like augmented reality
i did this while also listening to the skibidi toilet song in my head
I didn't use to be able to taste, but a few years ago I suddenly developed the ability. At first I could only do it when looking at pictures of food, but now, imagining it is enough.
I still don't understand how I got the upgrade. Is there any explanation for this?
There are actual studies about this, it might just be that there was a shake-up in your meal schedule a few years ago. It becomes ten times easier for people to imagine tastes and textures of food in their mouths when they're hungry.
expansion of consciousness
I was a 1, now I’m a 2. Help???
Please? Pretty please? I don’t wanna be an NPC! I wanna brain! A big, big, big, big, brain! Why am I getting dumber?
Try working out at the library.
>Why am I getting dumber?
seed oils
Read more maybe?
>I can form complete images or movies in my head in complete HD and make them do whatever I want. I can play out a whole story in my mind. Something unique that I have come up with. Different characters, voices, etc. Move around them while the scene is happening, like a floating camera in high definition.
>I have had a couple stories, or worlds if you will, that have been developing in my mind for a decade, multiple characters in each. When I go to bed I jump in the one of the stories and continue it. Everyone and everything is in sharp detail.
Man if I was smart enough to do this I'd probably never be suicidal. I could just escape to my incredibly complex dreamworld.
Why would they never have a crush?
What about wet dreams?
That's impressive. I'd say like 70% we're from written erotica, 20% from pictures, 2% from video porn and 8% from my imagination.
Based SOVLFVL smeller
>I could just escape to my incredibly complex dreamworld.
That's not all that good. It's called maladaptive daydreaming, and it becomes a real problem when you're literally just wasting years of your life sitting around fantasising.
Also, when you start projecting fantasies onto reality, that isn't good. That's "I'm in a psychic relationship with Bjork" levels of crazy.
True, I just mean it might make it easier to cope without totally losing yourself in it.
>maladaptive daydreaming
I did this when I was younger.
Fluoride
my b
eat mor apples
ARE YOU HUNGRY FOR APPLES??
Stop jerking off.
>y'all
it checks out
please don't disregard southerners over troony coopted words
I'm from the south and I disregard them, too. I've said "y'all" since I can remember but I don't say it online. It just never comes out.
Top, Bottom, Left, Right, or Behind?
I moved to the south when I was about 16 and quickly realized the utility of "y'all" but it is kinda weird to write it out especially since you are speaking to "y'all" by default on the internet most of the time.
Right (stage left)
Correct
Which letter?
Might not do many more of these, got places to be shortly.
B
Yup, you all are pretty good at this. I gotta go but the problems and answers are all here, from a test I took when I was in middle school including the answers to
https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/stb/stb-samples
If the topic comes up again make sure to post some of these and exercise your fellow anons' brains. Use it or lose it
B
Is this one of those things where everybody knows the answer yet somehow 90% of the population fails in studies?
B
why is everyone pretending there is a question here
which letter what?
which letter fricking what????
I'm so sorry.
The question is which object (A-E) matches the one that's cordoned off at the top left of the image. You should have been able to figure this out for yourself.
What did you eat for breakfast?
The question is "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?".
Right
Correct, right. I'm none of these anons.
The language you use here is atrocious. All you do is turn it 180 from top to bottom.
The language makes perfect sense if you've ever done drafting/design work.
Y'all is such a convenient word. Whenever someone writes it down, I can know it's safe to stop reading.
I use 'yinz' instead so I retain credibility
People who can't do this or that don't have an inside voice must be npcs
I went from a 5 to a 1 with one quick trick. Click here to learn more.
How the frick do these people read books? They see “The dog jumped over the fox.” And they visualize nothing? How do they fricking comprehend it then?
47 men came on his cereal before he ate it. What a strange fellow.
being a 5 seems more like a blessing than a curse tbh. Sometimes my brain visualizes the most fricked up things just because.
That's why they say ignorance is a bliss, anon.
Same
Porn addiction?
yes :(, im trying to quit but it's a tough battle
I'm a 5 and I still think of terrible things even if I don't visualize them. I was near a young baby recently and all I could think about was how much I wanted to gauge out his eyes or rip through his skin with my teeth, like my own internal monologue kept repeating these awful things. I think if I were able to visualize it I wouldn't want to do it so badly, it's like I want to see how it looks and feels.
Visualize waves crashing into the ocean.
done
yes and then i rotated it
>yes and then i rotated it
in the 4th spatial dimension?
no
i can kind of make that happen like a tesseract thoughbeit
Didn't that worked in Village of the Damned?
Imagine kids reading your mind and all your a thinking about is very graphic trans bottom surgery or India in general
thanks doc
Peak reddit.
Are 2-5 people incapable of remembering what objects taste, smell, and feel like? How is any human incapable of recalling any objects and their various sense's interactions with said object in detail?
For me it's like 3, but I can rotate the images around in my head and visualize in 3D. Color is unnecessary.
That's pretty insane ngl. I wonder what's stopping you from being able to add high detail like color. I almost don't believe this. Imagine a block, wood, nothing else about it. A simple wooden block that's been sanded smoothly. Not raised wood, so no need to watch for splinters. You're holding it and tossing it around. Can you feel it land in your hand or leave your hand? Now imagine it's not a standard beige, but a deep dark mahogany color, and shiny. Can you do both or only one of these? This is so interesting, holy shit.
For me, most of the time I'm visualizing how the object/material will behave if I twist it, push on it, or pull on it. I come from a family of engineers so there's probably some hereditary autism going on. You don't need color to "feel" mechanical properties.
Hmmmmmmmm.............
Hmm.
I wonder if this allows engineer-brains to hyper focus better. Super neat, anon. Also:
"The apple scale is a test that asks you to close your eyes and imagine an apple.
You then judge the clarity of the apple on a scale of 1–5. A score of 5 means you cannot see any apple at all, but know you are thinking of an apple. This could indicate a condition called aphantasia.
Aphantasia is a neurological condition that prevents people from voluntarily creating a mental picture in their head. People with aphantasia cannot picture a scene, person, or object, even if it's very familiar. Estimates say about 1 percent of the population lives with an extreme form of aphantasia.
The test works as follows:
Close your eyes and imagine an apple.
Judge the clarity of the apple on a scale of 1–5.
One is a highly detailed realistic apple as if it is really in front of you.
Five is not seeing an apple at all.
If you can see anything at all, even a blurry outline, you do not have aphantasia."
>I wonder if this allows engineer-brains to hyper focus better.
See
This is the kind of thing that I'm extremely good at. Men, on average, tend to be better than women at this kind of thing (which is why traditionally engineering has been dominated by men).
Men are definitely better at spatial representation, but I think women may be good at representing more abstract social ideas in their heads, hence why lots of writers are female. So instead of blocks, shapes, and tangible things, it's people, their thoughts and relationships between them.
I mean, writers seem to mostly be women now, because only women get published, and there's a lot of reasons why that might be, but it's probably because men would rather play video games than read fiction at this point.
Exactly, men and women have different strengths. Also, there will always be exceptions - we're just talking about averages.
>Now imagine it's not a standard beige, but a deep dark mahogany color, and shiny.
It just doubled its weight (pine is light) and is cooler to the touch because it's varnished.
I'm more of a 3 for the whole object but can seperately imagine the surface/texture of the peel in photorealism.
I can also imagine the entire apple in photorealism if I simultaneously imagine sitting in my 4th grade school cafeteria while I eat it.
Ross from Game Grumps says this but he’s a pretty good illustrator / animator. How’s that work? You just rough it out on the page? If I’m drawing something it’s following some attempt to match what’s in my head
A friend I used to have back in primary school didn't have an inner voice. We used to have sleepovers, she finally got her first book to read and she read it our loud before going to bed. When I told her to read it internally, she couldn't understand the concept. I guess npcs do exist.
I think with kids it’s different. You learn how to read, then read silently while mouthing the words kinda with your mouth closed, then eventually you can sight read without doing that
I don't ever remember mouthing words as I read, not once
There's Cinemaphile related anecdote about this in Jackie Brown where Bridget Fonda's character implies Samuel L. Jackson's character is moronic because he moves his lips when he reads.
and she'd be right
>Augustine said that Ambrose was the most remarkable man he had ever met, because he could read without moving his lips or making a sound.
?????
>not being able to think in full scenes of moving, perfectly realistic, images
Don't need porn, just think of hot shit in my mind
>not being able to think in full scenes of moving, perfectly realistic, images
I used to be able to do this, now I can only rotate fruit and it takes an unpleasant amount of effort.
Based. I'm also an elite coomer. Sometimes the most mundane things will trigger a raunchy sex fantasy. Like this half eaten bowl of chili next to me. Mmm yeah...
A vanishingly small number of people can bring themselves to orgasm through thought alone, with no manual stimulation.
Same. I want to say maybe 5% of all my climaxes were via porn and not my imagination.
Same, but reversed numbers.
>just think of hot shit in my mind
doesnt everyone do this? even while watching porn?
I'm talking about imagining Vienna Black sitting on my exes face and seeing the whole scene
I always thought the outrage over deepfakes was stupid because it's not really different than imagining the girl naked. I just now realized it's just NPCs who aren't capable of that. Sad.
>I always thought the outrage over deepfakes was stupid because it's not really different than imagining the girl naked. I just now realized it's just NPCs who aren't capable of that. Sad.
If you're going to be that autistic, then how are real nudes or porn videos any different from just imagining it?
KEK I totally forgot about this, imagine publicly embarrassing yourself to that degree in such an abstract way that will always be available to watch on the internet
I think growing up with most playing video games have given me this power. I can pretty much travel back in time and perfectly visualize a scenario from my memory going back years. I hate it, stop filling my head with shit that doesn't matter.
I'm 100% sure these people are just simply misunderstanding the prompt. They think that people like have some kind of eyes inside their brain which LITERALLY see something instead of just... visualizing. They are still moronic but for a different reason
>I'm 100% sure these people are just simply misunderstanding the prompt. They think that people like have some kind of eyes inside their brain which LITERALLY see something instead of just... visualizing. They are still moronic but for a different reason
Oh, dear. A 5.
I think your a 5, what we’re talking about is equivalent to augmented reality, if you can’t do that then you are not even human tbh
5s are literal subhuman
You don't 'see' it the same way, it's more like you feel it.
Right this is what I mean here
These morons just don't understand that that is what the scale means. Obviously you aren't "seeing" it, but they misunderstand this.
Everyone has the ability to visualize. There are no 5's.
You aren't "seeing" it literally, but you may as well be. The image just comes to you, there's no effort involved in straining to visualise.
If you can't do that, I honestly fail to understand how you're experiencing life from one second to the next. Do you just react to stimulus immediately in front of you, and that's it? Do you have object permanence? can you maintain any persistent opinion, or sense of self, if other people aren't constantly affirming yourself back at you?
How does this work? It's like they're just straight up not real people.
So have 5s never drawn their favorite characters from scratch? With 0 reference material? I always got the suspicion that people are misinterpreting what other people mean by visualizing. Like you can sense that you're not REALLY seeing an object but you effectively are; the people who claim to be 2-5 are focusing on the former while 1s are focusing on the latter if I'm making any sense.
>I always got the suspicion that people are misinterpreting what other people mean by visualizing.
I used to think this too, but the guy in OP said he just knows writing by the words and sees nothing connected to it.
I refuse to believe everyone isn't 1. Apart from black people that is.
I can form complete images or movies in my head in complete HD and make them do whatever I want. I can play out a whole story in my mind. Something unique that I have come up with. Different characters, voices, etc. Move around them while the scene is happening, like a floating camera in high definition.
I have had a couple stories, or worlds if you will, that have been developing in my mind for a decade, multiple characters in each. When I go to bed I jump in the one of the stories and continue it. Everyone and everything is in sharp detail.
That's why I love reading, my imagination is better than any IMAX. I have a friend that hates reading, took me some time to figure out why - he doesn't see what he is reading in his mind, like a movie, he just reads the words and absorbs their meaning without imagining, without seeing anything. I can understand why he hates reading, it doesn't provide any input for him, literally nothing to see
>if you will,
I was stupid enough to not realize you were trolling until this part
So is this just for imagination or what? Like if I describe something, can you not create a vivid picture in your mind? What about imagining that object on your monitor - can you look at your monitor an imagine it?
>Green apple
>Smooth, waxy skin
>Water drops all over the outside, some dripping down every few seconds as they form together slowly
>It's more ball than apple-shaped
That should be standard, no?
I can see more in my head than with my eyes
I'll spend hours in my own room imagining things and almost playing with myself sometimes. I'll do weird shit that I NEVER hear about other people doing beyond like 12 years old because I'm so bored and miserable and it makes me feel like such a psycho.
I damage control for that insecurity by thinking other people are just fricking stupid otherwise they'd do similar shit more often too
Powerful.
Try meth then try sleeping. You'll see nonstop images flashing
I wonder if 5s are the people who never had a crush on someone growing up.
it's the opposite
How could you fantasize about someone if you can't even visualize them without actually seeing them?
>if you can't even visualize them without actually seeing them?
If you've never seen them, then it's not 'them' you're visualising, it's just some rando
Perhaps it's their inability to visualize that person that makes their desire for that person stronger, they want to see them. I've never had a crush on anyone and I can visualize things just fine.
I'm a 1, and one of those people who can imagine basically every scenario and story in my head in full colour moving HD as perfect as if watching a movie; and I never had any crushes growing up. I was so wrapped up in my own fantasy worlds and imagining my own perfect girls that I never bothered to chase tail IRL until it was too late.
I'm a 2 desperately wishing I was a 5 because I'm not a 1
For me it depends on the thing. For example I can't visualize apples very well, it's like a 3 or 4. But if I'm thinking about something I give a shit about, it's an easy 1. I don't give a shit about apples but I can visualize my parents' cooking very easily.
There's people who can only imagine pictures in black and white?
mostly silent generation that grew up in black and white. 3 is dying out.
That makes no sense. We live in a world full of colour and could see it long before photography came about.
>he thinks the color world was invented before color TV
That's fricking moronic lmao, the need for a technicolor world didn't exist before there were cameras to capture it.
There are people who are color blind and can see like two colors plus greyscale
so do people like this just not dream or something?
i literally refuse to believe that morons cant actually visualize things, i think they are just too dumb to know what that means
homie ain't even got the ghost of a pineal gland lmao
if you cant visualize an apple in your mind, how do you recognize it when you see it?
how do you remember what an apple looks like?
I have aphantasia, when you people say "I can visualize things I read in books" do you mean you can LITERALLY see the things as if you were looking at them? Like you have literal images in your head materializing? That sounds like absolute nonsense to me.
Of course I "visualize" a complex system, like when I code I can picture the callstack and functions calling one another, but I don't literally "see" them.
A counter argument I have is when I ask people to draw a bicycle without looking at a reference, just try ahead and draw a basic picture of a bicycle, most of you guys will frick it up, so I'm pretty sure you're not actually "visualizing" the bicycle in its many details.
Another interesting point is how I can have VERY vivid dreams, with tons of details, but they disapear from my memory once I wake up, I just have a fleeting knowledge of what I saw.
So when you read harry potter as a child you literally couldn't picture the characters?
Well kind of? I have an "idea" of how it would look like, even the gestures and general position of characters but I can't literally see it the way I see with my eyes.
I don't mean that, make a very basic drawing, like a child's drawing in 2D, just try to be accurate on the placement of all elements.
>Well kind of? I have an "idea" of how it would look like, even the gestures and general position of characters but I can't literally see it the way I see with my eyes.
Thats how it is with everything. I "see" my computer in front of me. If I visualize a computer, I don't "see" it per se, its just processed in my brain as if I do. Its not like we can just project images into reality.
>He can’t picture something so vividly it covers up his vision
NGMI
i mean if i visualize something then my vision goes slightly less good simply because my brain is focused on the visualization and not whats im seeing. But otherwise I can sort of "super-impose" (not literally) a visualization into the real world. Like I don't "see" it, but I can imagine a ball bouncing around the room or whatever.
>otherwise I can sort of "super-impose" (not literally) a visualization into the real world. Like I don't "see" it, but I can imagine a ball bouncing around the room or whatever.
Based. I’ve told people this and they didn’t believe me.
>But otherwise I can sort of "super-impose" (not literally) a visualization into the real world.
Did you see the little dude running along the horizon on long car journeys?
yes of course
MEDS. NOW.
VISUALIZE THE APPLE. NOW.
That doesn't mean shit, I can visualize all the things mentioned in this thread but never use it while reading books. Hermione was a string literal to me, I don't think I even remembered she had giant teeth before they mentioned it. It doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the story or couldn't describe each scene to someone else.
>when I ask people to draw a bicycle without looking at a reference, just try ahead and draw a basic picture of a bicycle, most of you guys will frick it up
That's a skill issue. I can think of bicycles all day long but I'm not that great at drawing
>so I'm pretty sure you're not actually "visualizing" the bicycle in its many details.
You have a rare mental disorder that impacts 3% of the population and you think other people are lying? That’s fricking brutal.
>when I ask people to draw a bicycle without looking at a reference, just try ahead and draw a basic picture of a bicycle, most of you guys will frick it up, so I'm pretty sure you're not actually "visualizing" the bicycle in its many details.
Learning to translate images from your head to the page is a skill that takes a massive amount of practice to get right, and is more down to a combination of the fundamentals of illustration and developing the mechanical skill to actually put the shapes together with the right proportions and shit
>do you mean you can LITERALLY see the things as if you were looking at them? Like you have literal images in your head materializing? That sounds like absolute nonsense to me.
That literally what I do when I read a book
There's a scene from one of the Arsene Lupin novels where a back yard, the stone wall surrounding it, the gate into it and a small building inside is described so clearly I can still see it in my head 7 years later. Bear in mind Leblanc was a crime reporter required to take notes, and he chose Texeira, an excellent novelist himself, to translate his works to English. Most of the stories are like that.
which one? i wanna get into lupin now.
>The neocortex and thalamus control the brain's imagination, along with many of the brain's other functions such as consciousness and abstract thought.
So what you're telling me is, people with bad or seemingly no imagination *possibly* aren't as conscious as those with a great imagination? And their abstract thought is probably also really poor?
I'm a 1 but recently when I close my eyes too long I start seeing smiling faces anyone else dealing with this creepy shit?
What does visualize mean here?
Does it mean literally see an apple when you close your eyes, in the same amount of detail as an actual real apple in front of your open eyes? I doubt anyone can do that lol. That's called having a photographic memory.
Is it just to be able to vaguely picture an apple and imagine it in a hypothetical scenario or something? I believe most people above 90 iq can do that.
I can visualize that it's green and has white spots, not that I see an actual pattern my mind's eye tracks. If I "look" at where the stem joins with the fruit I notice the brown speckling where it was originally a flower, and if I flip it over the triangular points that also came from its original form. Because it's a Granny Smith, it has a round bottom rather than the five bumps a Red Delicious would have. All of this is constructed from experience, just like how I can visualize a chromed lag bolt but I can't read what's on the hex head because I never bothered to pay attention to it, and I can only guess which way the threading is. I also incorrectly visualized it with the threading going all the way to the head rather than having a smooth short collar under the head.
When you have "a song stuck in your head" you're not literally hearing the song playing through your cochlea. You are imagining the song. The same way you can visually imagine the apple.
>you're not literally hearing the song playing through your cochlea
Speak for yourself. My inner spiral speaks to me.
I wonder if recalling music in your mind is a similar principle akin to grooves on a record. Obviously there’s a microscopic physical pulse of energy that exists within the brain that allows recall.
everyone has the same ability on this scale, people just interpret the question/diagram differently
same thing as the people who interpret an internal dialogue as a narrator going over your life vs. the reality of everyone's internal dialogue
I can imagine a very detailed object but it takes a bit of mental effort to do so.
Visualization isn't on a static scale like this. Each person simply visualizes things differently, and I doubt if anyone could truly explain the way in which they visualize anything.
If you're a 1 you can see things on that scale however you want. The further down you go the less the person has the capability to visualize something.
Must be a nepotism hire if he can’t visualize what he’s writing inside his head. This is why AI is better. It can at least pretend it’s self-aware.
Sad, many such cases.
How does he write a scene??
Many writers follow an uptight formula that works in storytelling.
He just chucks together flowery run-on sentences, usually.
That’s what I do!
Poorly
1 for me. I can visualize things like I'm watching something in the real world.
>Can only see in 2K resolution with aliasing and screen tearing
Life is suffering
Not with v-sync, scrub. Of course you’ll lower how many fps you can see if you turn it on.
people dont actually see things in their mind. you are lying if you say that. you imagine it. you conceive of it and its properties but you dont actually see it.
ha ha ha ha ha brainlet
I laugh my ass off every time these posts pop up. Buddy, you're not a full human being. Sorry you had to find out this way. Yes, we do actually see it.
I have an extremely vivid memory of eating salted cantaloupe with my grandpa as a child. I can visualize myself standing in the kitchen along with the exact shade of orange and the taste of it, with my eyes open or closed.
However, this is just one of my strongest memories. I can't really do this with any other memory unless I'm on psychedelics (which doesn't count)
the cope in this thread from 5s is hilarious
total 5 death
billions must rotate the apple
I can get a photorealistic apple when I just remember what an apple looks like, trying to construct one from scratch yields more of a 3d model looking apple.
not even meming, but are you autistic? apparently some people with aspergers lack the ability to abstract - if you ask them to draw a house, they have to draw a specific house that they are aware of.
I'm autistic, and I don't have that problem.
If anything, autistic people are very good imaginers, which is why they're often fixated on inventing characters, or playing with lego.
I think a lot of the thing people say about autistics are just straight up fake, or based on them observing autistics from the outside, and failing to understand them.
The conversation went like this
>could you draw a house, Timmy?
>sure, do you want a specific kind of house?
>oh, how interesting. The autistic mind cannot abstract!
No, what actually happened here, is the guy couldn't specify his request.
People with aphantasia have much higher IQs
they're braindead calculators like asians, soulless autists to be chained to a desk
Low IQ cope
IQ doesn't correlate to level of sapience
Low IQ cope
Nice cope
Look it up low IQ moron it's literally a fact
I stopped smoking weed and went from 4 to 1 but my dreams are now scary vivid
Weed makes my imagination more vivid
>Weed makes my imagination more vivid
It will at first because you’re tripping but will slowly degrade your ability to visualize
literal NPC
The apple thing is stupid because we don't know how everyone "visualizes" concepts and may have a different interpretation of the question. The real test for a creative thinker is being able to represent a concept in your head and work with it, then apply that back to the real world in writing or otherwise.
Pic related, you can probably recreate this shape in your head just by seeing it, maybe not "visually" but at least an idea of it. But can you rotate it around and extrapolate details? Which one of the lettered shapes matches the top left one? There is one correct answer.
D, right?
Correct. How about this one, the view on the left is the "front" view, with "down" being the bottom of the image. The view on the right is another view from another direction. Which way is it? Valid answers are [viewing from] top, bottom, left, right, or behind.
I think it's like twisted back, but honestly my ADHD kicked in and I got bored of reading what you wrote about half way through, do I might not be getting it.
Bottom
Correct
I'm just gonna keep posting these cuz they're kinda neat. I'll post some harder ones in a bit if the thread's still alive.
Which letters in the 3d view correspond to which numbers in the 2d unfolding?
Frick didn't realize it copied all 4 of the problems. Well whatever, take your pick from easy to hard.
Bottom? Looks like you need to rotate it upwards from the front view around the horizontal axis through the center of the image.
Looks like behind upside-down more than anything but of the ones you said bottom
Do a 180 bro and fix your language science man. You have to first pass these tests to write them so they make sense.
>But can you rotate it around and extrapolate details?
Of fricking course I can, who can't?
It's E, every other option one of the two blocks is on the wrong side of the center pole.
Actually, I can't tell you why E isn't valid. D and E look like the same thing from different angles.
Wait, no. I see it. E is wrong.
Looked at it again and your right about D, don't know why I got it mixed up at first.
Look at the white round pole on one end, it faces the wrong direction in D. Rotate from D to E is easier, you can see the difference in how that pole is orientated.
i know someone who got brain damage in an accident. it didn't really affect his reasoning skills at all, except weirdly he lost the ability to visualize shapes in his head. he said it made geometry really hard.
Only D is valid. The rest have parts facing the wrong way.
>Harry Potter
Did his face pop into your head when you read that?
My mark of a good book is pretty much if I'm overly aware of reading a book while reading it, or if it's as if the words aren't even there anymore and I'm just in that world.
I'm a 5 and I'm an illustrator and 2D animator (16 years in the industry).
True 5's don't think in words, ideas, or associated feelings either. We all know who the true 5's are.
I'm a 2 and maybe that's why I'm such a coomer. I can imagine me fricking any girl on this god forsaken earth.
Aphantasia is curable. I was a 5, but I recently tried these exercises and I already got some visuals:
https://old.reddit.com/r/CureAphantasia/
can normies really not do this?
Less than 1 % people have aphantasia and they tend to be much higher IQs
>they tend to be much higher IQs
LOL pure copium
It's a fact look it up
>When one visualizes with traditional phantasia, they are providing additional signals to the visual cortex, not originating from the optic nerves, and the mind generates visuals but separates them from the visual “screen” that the eyes’ visuals occupy.
Anyone asking "like see see?", no, but something sort of akin. That's what we 1s can do.
I practice street fighter in my mind so this is easy
I don't open the door for any wagies or poors
I'm a 1 but only for smells. I went to a store in the mall years ago and the smell was so vividly identical to my oneitis ex's hair/skin smell that I just started crying and had to hide in the bathroom. It's been over 10 years and I can still conjure the aroma in my mind on command.
The greatest blessings are the greatest curses.
>food analogy
Would you rather a nice unopened soda or a soda that had a penis in it?
I dunno about that, but if 48 dudes had cummed in the bowl first, I probably wouldn't want the Cheerios
So you want to cum in the Cheerios first?
Ye, of course. I'm hardly going to eat someone else's cum, am I?
>If I can't physically see the wieners she's sucked, they don't exist
I can do both a 1 and a 5 depends on what I need for a given situation. For example if I need to read some boring document for work, I'll do a 5 and speed read it. I don't need to waste energy visualising that shit. If I'm reading a book for my own leisure then I'll do a 1 no problem. Is everyone not like this?
I hate this normie meme.
Youre telling me that if I said "picture the Mona Lisa" you cant? At all? not even a little?
Youre going to pretend like you didnt realize people can remember what something looks like?
Its nonsense.
I probably have more specific kmowledge about this stuff than most people. I have pretty severe ADHD, which isnt a big deal, but I have trouble bringing up and holding a specific image in my mind, but that in no way means that I would be a 0 on that scale. Not even close.
Uppers like cocaine, amphetamine, and meth, counteract this. When you take them, the things in your mind feel very real. This is one of the reasons why uppers are so useful when watching porn. You can see whatever is in your mind or on a screen like its really happening before you.
All of this is to say that, there is a natural range where humans are differently able to picture things in their mind, but to say that you have 0 ability to picture something in your mind and that you didnt realize this was a normal thing that all humams do, is ridiculous.
That brings up a memory that I was surprised to hear people needed porn to jerk off when I was a teenager. I generally just imagined scenarios. I never really liked porn actually, because it feels too fake.
>all people think exactly like I do, and if they say they don't, they're lying just to trick me
>NPCs
>people
teaching mathematics to common people was a mistake.
>vlogbrothers are actual NPCs
Wait...that's 1?!? My reality is what I will it to be with my mind. I don't eat apples because I subsist off fast food and frozen meals and yet I am the most attractive male I know because of my decision-making skills and intellect. I know my reality is that I deserve a pure woman of traditional values that most would rate 10/10 except my reality is that I do not have her because all women are prostitutes. Do most people here really just think about apples? I do not think about apples, I KNOW women are prostitutes.
There are people that can't visualize things in their mind and they're not morons, brain damaged or babies? How the frick does his imagination work? Real talk.
I took ketamine once and I remembered this image and immediately a brilliant golden apple floating high above the land and all these vines started coming out of it while an angelic chorus sang and the vines wrapped around the whole earth and morphed into the golden apple and it started shining as bright as the sun. I have retained this level of visualization ever since so that makes me a 0.
If you are not 1 you are not a human.
what if my 5 is a black screen black void? its never white background
The 6000 quoted tweets tell me everyone thinks they're a 1
>everyone thinks they're a 1.... but that must be fake! NOOOOOOOO
t. 5
1 is pretty normal
It's funny how we are both baffled at each other. The morons who can't see images in their heads and us normal people who can imagine things. I never knew there were large swathes of people who have no visualization, but it really does explain the lack of ability to forward-think and assume consequences of actions that many people (especially of leftist mindsets) tend to have.
>The morons who can't see images in their heads and us normal people who can imagine things.
I wonder how much it really differs for people. I can picture an apple, human faces, or pretty much anything, but it is more like a "mind's eye" sort of thing. a little ghostly that fades if I try to dwell on it. the way some of you talk about it, you can render streaming video in your brains like going into a lucid dream when you close your eyes.
i unironically think that we're all talking about the same thing we just describe it differently and cant comprehend truly what the other person is trying to say because we cant se einside their heads
No, no one can "see" things in thier heads. that's called hallucinating
>y'all
Nothing intelligent has ever come after this word.
how many people are actually 3 or 4?
those ones seem made up
This "I can't imagine thinks on my mind" has to be fake right?
I cannot believe this, it has to be some hypochondriac shit for attention, like women do with BPD and depression...
>the narcissist is some blue hair liberal because uhhhh frick the SJWs
this isnt a counterargument to what i said
I'm having real sex in my head as we speak
later, virgins
damn homie
ATTENTION TO ALL PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THEY CANNOT SEE THE APPLE
ATTENTION TO ALL PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THEY CANNOT SEE THE APPLE
ATTENTION TO ALL PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THEY CANNOT SEE THE APPLE
If you RIGHT FRICKING NOW think about your mothers face, you're telling me you can't see your mothers face in your mind? If you think of your own mother you can't see her face just using your brain?
I can't see her face. Only my eyes can see things but I can remember the feeling of seeing her face and remember what she looked like but no I can't see anything when I close my eyes but darkness.
that's fricking scary to me
t. reading books is like watching a movie in my head
Yeah, often times the book is more vivid.
Movies can put a real barrier between you and the story, because the stuff on the screen is so much more fake than what's in your head, which is "real".
You aren't actually seeing them though, just thinking of them.
How are you anything less than 1, like are you moronic?
This explains a lot of things thoughbeit
If you're not solidly a 1 (or perhaps even a 0.5) you are a drooling moron. But don't worry because morons don't know they're moronic, it's not even possible to feel bad about it.
5s are on the same tier as people without a voice in their head.
You must be an NPC
>not thinking in complete abstracts that aren't capable of being represented on that sort of scale
Literal normalgays
solipsistic Wittgenstein language games. people actually gaslighting themselves into psychosis because some b***h on instagram doesn't know how to describe their own experience of phenomenology and theory of mind accurately
this is like saying you literally "hear" your thoughts in the same way you do spoken words. absurd metaphysical tautological confusion
HAHAHAHAHAHA brainlet knows about philosophy words... that's so tragic..... sorry youre not the amazing thinker you think you are.
unfortunately for you I know the whole point of these memes/threads is to make troll post like yours. not playing your psych manipulating games
I went from a 1 as a kid to a 2-3 at best as an adult.
I think I'm not just being forced to use my imagination as much as when I was young and we didn't have the internet as a constant source of entertainment / distraction. When you only had books to go off, you simply had no other course but to hone and sharpen your imagination / internal visualization.
I wonder how this affects younger kids that have been weaned entirely on videogames and youtube videos, and never have to think up narratives when they're playing with action figures or something.
So when this guy’s rubbing one out, he can’t imagine a pair of breasts of his favorite actress in his mind’s eye? Pretty grim.
Frick dude it's probably way worse for people with no inner voice, jerking off would be so much more boring if I couldn't imagine some woman whispering sweet nothings into my ear.
surely he’s just being nice and giving 5’s hope? how do you write a novel without visualising? how do you describe a place?
There's the intellectual understanding of what a thing would look like and how that could be described in words, and then there's the more abstract visualisation in your head. You can know that the sun casts warm golden rays on the cool dew in the morning without being able to just conjure the image up in your mind's eye
I'm a 1. I literally see things when I think about them. It's a bit annoying though. Like when I'm driving and I think about what's for dinner. Suddenly my vision is obscured by a big pizza and I'm swerving all over the place. It's a blessing and a curse.
You can't imagine transparency?
I'm conflicted on who the real NPC is
On one hand the people who can't visualize and have no inner thought simply perceives reality as is. They probably aren't prone to delusions. They probably live straightforward lives based on what they see and hear.
Meanwhile it's also a weakness because they can't perceive anything more than mere appearance. They can't construct a scenario in their head. So they probably fall for psyops and societal deception.
>They probably aren't prone to delusions.
they're more susceptible to delusional mindsets created by media depictions. like thinking someone will break into their house and rape and murder them because that happening was a big news story thousands of miles away, all pitbulls will murder babies because that's what the statistics show, all of american is blm riots because that's what was on youtube, etc.
I've noticed leftoids are often the ones lacking inner monologue and act extremely salty about it kek.
here's one:
your mental illness doesn’t make you superior, christcuck. it makes you mentally deformed. it’s harder for you to apprehend pure truth because random irreal nonsense in your mind is just as real to you. everything I apprehend is objectively there. i am more trustworthy and intelligent than you
>random irreal nonsense in your mind is just as real to you
No, it's MORE real to me.
I'm on the left and would say I'm a 1 and I have inner speech. I sometimes just edit a song in my head to make it sound funny.
Except that is not true at all. Research shows people with aphantasia tend to not be scared of horror movies and such
So people that can't see the apple cannot create shows or porn in their heads? Like they can't jerk off using their imagination? I don't even watch porn because the scenes in my head are much more vivid and interesting. I even have different characters and plotlines that develop during my sessions
Not everyone who can see the apple can either. They're just way more likely to.
this, my most filthy depraved fantasies are just movies I control in my head.
Who is this guy and why do you gays care about him?
This guy is someone named John Green. We don't care who he is. We do care about the interesting, strange perspective he has on how people perceive the world. You don't need to know someone's social status to decide if his words are interesting or worth reading.
I fluctuate between "4" and "1" tbh depending on many factors. That being said, being unable to grasp that imagination is a fundamentally subjective experience that can't be quantified by a scale is the real sign of a brainlet TBDESU.
Friendly reminder that unless you have clinical aphantasia, learning visualization is actually quite easy. It's just a mental function some people don't find the need to exercise all that often. In my experience, both anecdotally and reading related literature, those with the strongest visualization skills tend to have needed it at a young age to cope with trauma of some form.
I can imagine dicky and hugging a cute e-girl and smelling cute e-girl hair
I'm none of these... I guess? I don't think of an apple, I just think "I am thinking of an apple". There's no image, just the idea of seeing an apple.
Not only are most 1s liars, I theorise they are mentally ill. Most negative things in human history come from 1gays, religion, is a key example. Literally conjuring imaginary pretend shit out of thin air and “seeing it” is just a brain defect, it’s just your ability to parse reality malfunctioning. If 1s didn’t exist reality would objectively improve, there would be no irrational lies and insane emotional nonsense controlling society. Having people who see pretend things is extremely alarming to anyone with an IQ over 100
fun fact: you physically CANNOT direct your gaze in a smooth continuous motion. Try it, stare at a blank wall and try to shift your gaze as slow as possible in any direction. You'll find the subtle occular muscles spaz out, flitter and skip back and forth. We do this when reading and it's very efficient, they're called "saccades"
If you can't visualize and hear entire scenes of movies that may or may not exist in your mind then you are a subhuman
I am a strange loop
Why are Cinemaphile threads at their best when the topic has nothing to do with television and film?
That's nearly every board and has been for 20 years.
They only train the bots to talk about specific topics. Going off-topic is the only way to be sure you're talking to humans.
Now you know.
Because nobody here actually knows shit about television and film, they just watch it. The ones with gainful careers do in fact have expertise in other matters, though, and have meaningful things to say when their field gets brought up.
They're actually dogshit conversations on other topics as well but you don't them as well as you know television and film so they don't appear as obviously moronic.
How are there „people“ with monkey IQ and being a 0 on this and the consensus still stands that we are all equal beings