Imagine watching MTV in 1997. Within the span of a few months, the entire channel goes from grunge to a weird new subgenre called "Nu-Metal".
Imagine watching MTV in 1997.
Imagine watching MTV in 1997. Within the span of a few months, the entire channel goes from grunge to a weird new subgenre called "Nu-Metal".
>Britpop and Grunge died the same year
In general 1997 was a big "cultural reset" year with the start of the Y2K aesthetic. Other "change years" including
>1993
>2001
>2004
>2008
>2012
>2016
>2020
>mostly coincides with US presidential terms
Hmmmmm
Care to explain all the 2000s?
burgermutt hallucinations
Based goyslop cultural historian
Goyslop because materialistic culture produced by big corps to sell isn't real culture but nonetheless it's good that you list it down for laypersons like me.
brutal
2008 should really be 2007, with the release of the iPhone
2001-2007 was the same thing
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Grunge obviously died just after 1994 tho
The album has its flaws but it wasn't that bad.
>Within the span of a few months
Grunge was on the wane by 96. Nirvana (obviously) ended in 94 with Kurt's suicide. Pearl Jam boycotted Ticketmaster and their 96 album, No Code, was mostly a clean break from their grunge sound. Soundgarden broke up in 97. And Alice in Chains stopped indefinitely when Layne became a degenerate, shut-in heroin addict for the last years of his life
The "few months" mean the time between Soundgarden's breakup (Apr 97) and Limp Bizkit's debut (Jul 97)
Yeah but Limp Bizkit weren't big until Nookie which was 1999. They were getting buzz but they weren't huge yet. And Korn wouldn't blow up until 1998 with Follow the Leader/Freak on a Leash
yup
lol total and complete bullshit... thing is that zoomers focus 100% on grunge and all the superficial stuff (mostly clothes) associated with it. they forget that there was this time called "the early '90s" where loads and loads of stuff was modern, chic and very far from grunge
i know it's an ironic thing to say in this context but you really have to remember how full of shit the media is. "GRUNGE GRUNGE GRUNGE KURT COBAIN IS THE VOICE OF A GENERATION" came straight from the media and zoomers have swallowed it whole
yup exactly revisionists try to talk like korn was huge after s/t but that's just their best... freak on a leash made them stars. same thing goes for faith
bush was the only band keeping grunge alive and they were hamstrung right from the start by "lol trying to copy kurt..." consistent with the media narrative
To be fair (and btw both of the posts you're agreeing with are mine) Nevermind was fricking huge and nearly everyone bought that album. And his death was huge as well. I do agree with you (you didn't even mention the Manchester scene and how big dance music was) but Nirvana were fricking huge. I'd argue bigger than grunge really.
>came straight from the media
this, grunge was propped up by music critics who in general hated the 80's metal scene, these same critics hated numetal when it came around and tried to dismiss it as commercialized garbage, even though grunge was way more radio friendly and marketable to the masses, numetal was the music of white trash, outcasts, mall goths and other various fringe groups in the late 90's
GOD DAMNIT I FRICKING LOVE TOM'S DINER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>"GRUNGE GRUNGE GRUNGE KURT COBAIN IS THE VOICE OF A GENERATION" came straight from the media and zoomers have swallowed it whole
this
god pre-grunge 90s rock was awesome. There was a brief period where records sounded more punchy and 'natural' than they had in the 80s, but before software like the L1 ruined everything.
pearl jam was never grunge. they were stadium rock revival with a grunge aesthetic.
ten is still fantastic though.
This is the truth. Once Kurt was dead, that signaled the decline of the genre.
What about the Melvins, Blind Melon, and Mudhoney
Too underground be considered as part of a zeitgeist, especially by MTV. Blind Melon does have a big song but it's pop.
What about them anon?
Grunge had been dead for years by 1997 moron. And no-one called it Nu-Metal until the early 2000s. It was called "Alternative".
Now go frick yourself.
alternative and numetal aren't the same thing you moron
>Imagine watching MTV in 1997
I don't need to imagine, zoomer. It didn't happen like that. Grunge got edged out by britpop and norfman bands like Oasis and Coldplay in the mid 90s and the alternative genre as
And it always played a fair amount of dance, rap, R&B etc.
Now git off my Cinemaphile
>Coldplay in the mid 90s
you must be british
South African, and we got yank MTV through M-Net. Maybe not Coldplay but all those bong norfman bands like Oasis, Stone Roses, James etc. run together in my head.
coldplays first video was in 1999, not 1997
See
it was an extension of rap metal or crossover
I knew it as "rap rock"
Alternative was related to grunge in the early 90s. It’s pretty much the wave of rock that wasn’t 80s. Not related to late 90s “metal” or Metallica or anything.
the charts were pretty well diversified in the late 90s
you had an even mix of pop, grunge, alternative, hiphop, and a little techno
all of it shite
alternative rock was terrible in the late 90s it didn't really recover somewhat until the early-mid 2000s.
I was there. It wasn't like that. Anyway. Good job. I guess.
No one used the name nu-metal in 1997. Nu-metal is early 2000s.
>be 1999
>significant other releases
>nookie and break stuff and more
That moment when I got home and stuck that in my CD player is when history began for me
homosexual
Ice cold.
Captcha:NOGN
Hate them or love them.
They changed the history of Rock / Metal in the late 90's and early 2000's.
Even if you don't want to accept it, these dudes had a massive impact in music.
>these dudes had a massive impact in music
I suppose making a genre so cringe that everyone else stops making it could be considered a massive impact, sure
>They changed the history of rock
Lmao
seethe all you want she's right
Not only were they not the first rap rock band they weren’t even anywhere near the best. Rag against the machine while homosexual commies mogs them
Nu metal was some of the most soulless corporate driven stuff of that decade
Korn, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Papa Roach were the hottest music acts of that time.
SlipkNOT. They were quite under the radar in '97. You'd maybe see one of their videos at 3:56 a.m. or something, if some other headbanger was guest hosting and choosing videos. For all the corporate calculation during peak advertising hours, mTV and MTv2 did some cool shit in the middle of the night. And in the early 90s there were all sorts of cool videos seen by virtue of Beavis and Butthead. Mike Judge has always had hip taste in music, as evidenced by most of his career.
And Papa Roach only had that one song that was around for maybe 3 weeks. But the beauty of it was, for artists, that people would just buy the entire album to get the hit song and hope there was more good shit on it. There were still singles, but popularity and availability on those just kept waning gradually from the 50s up until the digital era. I had lots of cassingles, but CD singles seemed more and more elusive.
Papa Roach had a few popular singles and I sat by the lead singer at an event completely unrelated to music and talked to me and my friend and we both are kinda moronic
>My favorite band is named after a homosexual hazing ritual but my younger self wasn’t a lame homosexual. I was cool!
nobody asked...
You are entitled to like what you like but don’t ever pretend limp biscuit was cool
It was cool for the kids.
And it certainly was distinct and memorable.
But I can agree that it's shit in general.
Another Anon
not only was it cool, they are still cool
>don’t ever pretend limp biscuit was cool
Went to a Limp Bizkit concert about 10yrs back mostly for lolz and young teenage self memberberries. It ended up being the most fun I've ever had at a concert. Great vibe all around. Would absolutely go again.
did you also think that candlejack was re-
bump
significant other was too much rap and not enough metal. The difference between 3dollar bill yall and significant other is night and day.
>all the onions Cinemaphile pseudos ragingat him i nthe replies
>pop punk band has a chubby bassist trying to be funny
We gotta go back
Alien Ant Farm had two fat funny guys and three music videos for one song.
that means they're twice as funny
>when the record company can't understand why the song isn't a hit and keeps spending money on it
>many better bands can't even get signed
>bands like SOAD who are already successful get forced to release crap like Lonely Day as singles
makes me glad the traditional music industry died.
clearly trying to recapture smashing pumpkins 1979 music video and sound
These fricksticks died so quickly. This video was only in rotation for a couple of weeks. Their only successful song was the Smooth Criminal cover, and that couldn't have been popular for more than 6 or 7 weeks.
It was such an embarrassing time. Remember Orgy? They had the Soft Cell cover and that was it for them. Marilyn Manson was on a lot. Rap was stupid: B.I.G. and Ma$e and Puff Daddy and Missy Elliot. Wu Tang Forever was that year though and it was tight. Boy bands were big again with 98 Degrees and Backstreet Boys and N' Sync. Spice Girls videos were on a bunch. Cool shit like The Prodigy would slip in. AMP was a cool electronica show. 120 Minutes was cool; you'd see Tool and Pantera and RATM on there. But reality TV was already starting to creep onto the network. I was a junior in high school so I was watching a lot of Mtv. Remember The Ten Spot? Total Request Live always, always blew. I miss those days. That was the legendary magic mushroom year too. They grew EVERYWHERE in my town, like never before or since.
Bro I can only take so much nosalgia
>Remember Orgy? They had the Soft Cell cover and that was it for them.
It was a New Order cover and it was a banger. I wish more bands tried this kind of sound at the time because I actually liked it. I'm probably the last person on earth who remembers that Deadsy existed.
AAF > Say Anything
t. guy who had an ex who adored Say Anything before i realized they were good and spent more time listening to AAF
Grunge was long dead by then. The rock that was in between grunge and nu-metal was called alternative.
Nah the last dying embers of it would all die around 96-97. Don't get me wrong it was on it's way out after 94 but there was still the last little bit of life left in it
Nah you're mom gay.
AIC Unplugged was in 1996 and seems like a good sendoff
Anyone who liked those gay, adult contemporary unplugged sessions should just be gassed. Sellouts.
>completely misses the point of the grunge scene
I thought grunge was about smelling bad and looking bad. Grungy
It's about letting loose and being genuine, hence the contrasting image of unkempt surplus/thrift clothes compared to the more well-kept designer stuff from the age of glam.
Pertinent, informative and interesting to read posts.
So basically the prototype for modern day woe is me self pity "relatable" bullshit.
Exactly.
What modern day shit is that?
its all mumble rape and vapid female pop slop
Musicians, rock metal and otherwise either write lel le quirky shit or whiny woe is me shit nowadays
>feelings are gay
Grow up.
You definitely had shirts with alligators on them.
i never distinguished between grunge and alternative. tool's sober was for me the same as nirvana or soundgarden
>I'M HAPPY I'M BEING SAD
>ERRRRRRRRRRRR
>ITS COMING ON ITS COMING ON ITS COMING ON
>FINALLY SOMEONE LET ME OUT OF THE BAG
kino
2001 not 97
nu-nu-metal
Cool aussie band. That sound is definitely coming back.
I listened to this song probably 5000 times when I was 12
this site is fricking dead. none of these posts are bait. everyone is serious and completely moronic. the whole place needs to be finally shut down
Try drinking some Sprite or maybe a refreshing Canada Dry.
we weren't fragile about culture wars back then
They only played numetal on mtv2
MTV was cribs, puff daddy n sync etc
>MTV was cribs, puff daddy n sync etc
not in 87 you fricking muppet
it's 1997 moron
We used to call nu metal dirt metal
Because all the kids that liked it were poor and trashy
We called it Gunkcore, or Coeur D'gunk here in France.
It was definitely a rebranding of grung
Mixed with more metal and rap
Terrible times
Grung was originally sprungdoc, here in France, the festival of lights beneath the tower was the origin point. Medalrap Medallions were handed out to each Coeur in the form of the gum wrappers.
>Woodstock 94: comfy, cute girls, good music
>Woodstock 99: angry white chuds and shitty school shooter music
Lots of good things came out in '94.
Me in the right checking out her dumptruck
The 90’s were a terrible time for music with few exceptions especially the late 90’s
wrong
wow you're a moron
Used to think shit like Blues Traveler was corny, but honestly. Woodstock 94 lineup looks amazing.
Damn, I forgot they had that disgusting sex and barfing scene from Kingpin in the video. Kind of gives the whole thing a puke aftertaste, so to speak.
Gen x vs millennials
Both generations are embarrassing and I say that as an early Millennial. Wish I was a Boomer instead.
The Woodstock '94 boxed set is amazing. I wish I still had those discs. I can still remember my bedroom and how I hooked up all the best stereo equipment in the house in there all connected to a Sony Discman. This was one of the posters I had up.
What can you say but Zesty
woodstock 94 is the most reddit shit ever
And Woodstock 99 is Cinemaphile. Makes sense.
>yes I get all my information from HBO via youtubers
Imagine defending the corporations who commodified Woodstock to sell $15 bottle of water just to own the chuds.
Why are leftists such bootlickers?
>Le 15 dollar water bottle!! I must rape and destroy!!
Do chuds really?
>a Black person with COVID died from a fentanyl OD during an arrest
>better bury him in a good coffin and make him a saint, burn down cities, donate to a corrupt charity, defund the police that keep black crime ridden areas from turning into District 9, literally kneel and kiss the boots of black people etc
>only to forget about it when the next astroturfed happening is forced
Do leftoids really?
>a druggie ounce of shit Black person died
>must riot and burn down my city!
Do leftist really do that?
>also Woodstock
>mid 90s
>MTV sponsored
>thinking there's any right wing presence there.
It's cute how they absolutely mind raped you with indoctrination and you're too dumb to see it
STOP RAPING
Why aren't you in the ghetto telling Black folk this?
>((music festivals))
grunge was always mogged by alt rock. big tunes billy will outlive every one of those hessians
I consider Silverchair, Live, Foo Fighters, Hole and Alanas Morrisette to be grunge or at least grungy.
most of them are listed under a more generic "alternative rock" umbrella.
Grunge was really just nirvana and a few other bands that really didn’t get a lot of exposure from Seattle
the music industry used the name to rebrand a bunch of other bands that I really wouldn’t consider grunge like sound garden, but yes grunge was just a sub genre of the larger alternative scene which encompassed a lot of different music and dominated the 90’s
pure fred kino
Frick off Fred
TWO KINGS, I KNEEL!
Numetal was the last time rock music had any attitude
it's cool to see the biz still around and kicking ass
NGE aired in 1997 too.
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Around what year did MTV become a reality show/celebrity drama channel?
Yes
Total Request Live so late 90s 2000. I remember after 9/11 they tried to be more of a music channel like they were in 80s and early 90s. I guess it was some lame attempt to be taken more serious or something, but they abandoned that soon after.
TRL wasn't a reality show.
That time when The Offsprings Pretty Fly for a White Guy was number one for the entire year.
Yeah, that was more for celebrity drama. Meet the Osbournes was when they really started go full reality show.
Nu-metal? More like un-metal.
It was like there was electricity in the air. Everyone felt like things were going to get cooler and better forever.
And then the 00s arrived.
I remember that feel.
*9/11 arrived
No shit, I was wading through blood and bones trying to find my brother that day
wasn't he in northern canada?
2008 subprime mortgage crisis was arguably worse. It's knock on effects were further reaching and more damaging to society, People who had paid their dues, done the things you're supposed to do were suddenly thrown out of their jobs.
All the grungelords an hero'd or got bored of the phase and moved on. The genre was really killed by bands like Pantera, Death, and Megadeth revitalizing metal along side fhe grunge wave. Nu-metal was the commercialization of that. "Let's take Pantera to a focus group and make the most marketable pop-metal possible"
>Let's take this droning garbage listened to by five crusty dudes in a panel van and make a version of it people actually want to listen to
Yeah yeah, sellout, fake metalhead, blah blah - I started my midlife crisis recently and going back and listening to all the stuff I listened to as a kid has made me realise the numetal fans were right and me & my buddies were pretentious twats. Sure there's shit numetal, there's shit everything, 90% of any category of anything you care to name is shit, but I can listen to the 10% of good numetal without having to beat myself back down into the grotty snobby bunker mentality required to enjoy the 10% of good 90's "real" metal.
Pop-whatevergenre is good, actually.
I remember giving my brother shit at the time for listening to Alanis Morissette. What an butthole I was. I never knew I would miss so much that kind of harmless catchy pop-rock. Feels like I owe him an apology.
I wouldn’t have been got dead listening to contemporary music back then but now I’m at the gym listening to a playlist with Hootie and the Blowfish, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Third Eye Blind, Big Sugar, Rusty, Hole, Sublime, Better than Ezra, Spin Doctors etc etc
Totally fallen into the nostalgia hole and sometimes wishing I appreciated it back when it was current. Who would have known how shitty things would get.
frickin lol mate
(I'm joking and not really serious here) someone needs to dose those writers at the Guardian Woodstock style. They have terminal Stage 4 ego sickness.
most zoomers don't even know about 1/6
Everyone is forgetting the Puff Daddy RnB cringe pop that was mostly pushed moreso than guitar music often.
See
You really think MTV was slamming Korn and Godsmack vids at even a fraction of what Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, TLC, No Doubt etc vids were getting played? 96-00 was a return to traditional pop music and you could tell mainstream music outlets were ecstatic to get to play fun music videos with attractive people, bright colors and dancing after half a decade of gangsta rap, industrial and grunge, all of which needed to be censored with surgical precision to be suitable to air. Feel free to look up the actual best selling albums of 1997, you'll have to scroll way down before you see your precious juggalo rap rock.
>your precious juggalo rap rock.
It's like a choir of angels compared to the piss-ocean of auto tune mumblerap we have now.
even as a kid i knew that Black person spice just didnt belong
>96-00 was a return to traditional pop music
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't a bunch of radio stations get bought up around then and ~~*they*~~ pretty much had a monopoly on what could be played through out the country? Hence the 00s music quality decline.
Clear Channel went on a buying spree at that time. I remember it clearly because they grabbed a bunch of my local stations (but not too many to draw the attention of the FCC, mind you). 95.1/95.5 WNRV, The Nerve - sure they played hits and whatnot but they also regularly played a lot of new lesser known stuff like Nerf Herder in the first half of the decade.
Then they got bought by Clear Channel in the late 90's and still were a 'modern hard and alternative rock' format but it was different and you could tell.
pretty fly for a white guy was the great reset, followed by all the small things that ushered in the era of gross out comedies
Nu Metal was the last White Person music genre that was allowed to be popular
Bro country is incredibly popular you just don't like it because your a gay Internet nerd
i'm an oldgay. when nu metal came out to moronic kids like me it really did feel like something that was cool in a way metal wasn't. i remember me and my friend agreeing that "metal" was this old gay shit our dads listened to while "nu metal" was legit and awesome.
though didn't take long after getting into nu metal we were listening to maiden and dimmu borgir anyway.
i still crank on random nu metal playlists nowadays. it's just chaos pop music, mainstream music for people who want extremely easy listening, polished production but actually want to feel some spark of human emotion rather than the medicated nausea that all other pop music produces (which is exclusively made for women and gays).
most old metal gays still haven't moved on from slayer and pantera being considered as the most extreme music you can possibly listen to. nu metal gays at least recognised the errors of their ways, still retaining a bit of loyalty to the bands that were relevant in that time ignoring any ridicule, and being open to branching out into many different genres.
>muh generation was sovl
>nobody but me has ever felt this way
Fricking cringe circlejerk
True and I have come to realise the nineties were actually a lot shittier than when I experienced it but having kids I know current day culture is the pits because so many of them are into older music and movies. Back in the nineties anything a decade old was dad music.
it was before that
>within the span of a few months, the channel goes to one shitty subgenre of rock to another shitty subgenre of rock
wow
nirvana has exactly one (1) song people like btw
which song is that?
Smells like Teen Spirit obviously. It's not even good but it's the only thing about Nirvana's music anyone actually remembers.
for me, it's the hair metal bands that released their best albums after grunge came and destroyed everything they stood for and they went from ultra desireable rock gods to prancing homosexuals overnight.
Just accept power metal as the superior genre of all music and move on with your life.
empowered black metal is superior:
What is it with black metal and these stupid sub genres like “crust infested black metal” like seriously get a grip on reality.
And then there are these idiots that are like “oh frick yeah listen to this song called Christ killer goat fricker by blood prolapse, its so brutal”. I get it, you were molested by a priest when you were a toddler, stop being edgy. Put on Battle Hymn and enjoy life, homosexual.
Power metal is supremely gay and anti-metal
I like 90's music videos since 90% of them are just really experimental, using whatever new or newly popular technology to frick around and do something cool and interesting though fisheye lens is a bit overused.
Truly a better time
nu-metal is the most anti-reddit genre
Reddit isn't the only bad out there.
nu-metal is the last white male music genre
genres weren't as clear defined back then as they are now because there was no internet for people to autistically classify stuff
I'm randomly listening to that particular album where this song is from TODAY out of all days, after not listening to this band for 20 years and while that exact video is playing on YoutTube I open Cinemaphile and this thread pops up first. WTF?
>YFW when alternative/ grunge started in the 80s but nobody knew what to do with it
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To his credit Bob Mould did manage to make arguably the best grunge album right when grunge blew up commercially and it was a hit for him. Sadly gets overlooked and forgotten now:
i always saw Husker Du as the Beatles of the 80s. What i mean by that is there sonic evolution in a short timespan. They started so many subgenres from emo, pop punk and to an extent grunge. They wrote great songs too which a lot of their contemporaries couldnt.
Oh Husker Du were fantastic, no arguments there.
>TIME TO END THIS SUFFERING
>I NEED A MINUTE TO MYSELF
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Nu-metal is awesome and im tired of pretending it isnt
This tells us more about your tastes and worldview than you could possibly imagine. Every guy I knew that was into it are all the same dude. You favor a baseball-style cap if you wear one, don't you?
it doesn’t tell much but your lack of experience is showing
I was too busy jerking off to Posh Spice to notice.
Will forever be grateful to Grunge for killing off whatever the spin doctors two princes early 90's shit is called before it could define the era.
>ignores Third Eye Blind
Aside from that song, the rest of the Spin Doctors album is pretty great. I like Two Princes okay, but I can see why people might not. Jimmy Olsen's Blues was a good song.
In case you forgot.
MTV was never "grunge", in fact that entire sub-genre was an overblown marketing stunt that never took off.
People liked Nirvana but noone was into "grunge".
True, I think the misconception is that a lot of things that weren't "grunge" like Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots, Bush etc. get thrown under that label. Mudhoney, Pixies and the like never really took off.
Public access cable was where the real shit was to be had.
I didn't watch MTV until I was in Junior High (2004-2006). I remember it was tv shows like High School Controversies. Apparently it's just Rediculousness now
This thread is more on-topic than 99% of the threads on Cinemaphile
Limp Bizkit's 3 dollar bill yall is a legit great album. It was raw and new sounding. By the time significant success and commercialization changed their sound. The first few Korn albums were pretty great too.
Linkin park started off commercialized. Even when I was in highschool (the target demographic for MTV) I could tell linkin park was for homosexuals and emos.
Its his voice i cant stand and his moron swagger.
His voice got really whiny in the newer albums but it was pretty raw in their first.
Like compare counterfeit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDdGrlylcEU&ab_channel=LimpBizkitVEVO
with rollin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnFIRc0k6E&ab_channel=LimpBizkitVEVO
He gets this like whiny ton to his voice. It stopped being metal.
many metal singers have a smiliar evolution
many of them don't sing properly, they don't exercise their voice like pro singers (homosexuals) do and find themselves gased out during concerts
so this affects the new songs they write, it's pretty noticeable
MTV was never a trendsetter but only played what was popular.
If YOU didn't noticed the change in taste before MTV, that sounds like you weren't in touch with the scene at the time
>Imagine watching MTV in 1997.
I was fourteen then and have memories of actually doing so. You clearly weren't there.
>From shit to shit
Wow, how did they manage?
1997 was an interesting time where you had pop music like the Backstreet Boys, alternative music like Third Eye Blind, the Verve along with gangsta rap - Snoop Dogg and Biggie. Nu - metal wasn't even close to the top.
The pop songs back then had much better melodies than today and the alternative songs were catchier than the drab indie sound we have now. The rappers were much better too. Also, I'm not some modern philistine I think modern movies for example are much better than in 1997.
And then they switched to reality tv.
when I was a kid I remember staying up to watch Beavis and Butthead. Afterwards when it was over the entire channel would just blank out because they ran out of shit to run. This was at like 2 in the morning.
At least in the 90s in early 2000s they had shit like TRL where you got to see actual music videos before they went full moronic. Now we have youtube which has saved the whole music video format. I fricking love music videos. It let's people be artsy for 4 minutes.
Get in here
https://my90stv.com/#mOJEcEkR1a8
Korn was the shit in the 90s.
NOW I KNOW YALL BE LOVIN THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE
L-I-M-P BIZKIT IS RIGHT HERE
Grunge fricking sucked and so did nirvana. Kurt Cobain was a whiny homosexual who ruined an entire generation of men and music as a whole forever.
>ITT Cinemaphile knows even less about music than it does about tv and films
that was when music videos went from artistic and abstract or trying to visually represent the story of the song to "guys playing the song in a warehouse" too. I fricking hated that shit and seethed uncontrollably whenever i saw it. Like why even bother with a video if you're not going to do anything interesting with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7HvnMJZd4
whoa, bro.
the only thing I miss are the big tiddy goth girls
it had already gone to shit. With grunge music getting less good and the rise of jam bands who didnt release videos (we listened to phish and ween) MTV had already started showing WAAAY to much rap.
There was a brief period where they tried to make VH1 and MTV2 a thing and those were great because they played more obscure stuff and pop up video.
Things change. Imagine being a nu metal kid and one day in 2004 or something they just exclusively start playing pop rock songs or just straight pop. You'll be confused the same. Time passes and what we grew up with and remember fondly is not what younger people like. There's nothing wrong with that really.
>not uncovering slam in the 90s
pedestrian trash
Remember that really weird brief period (1997?) when ska and swing music became suddenly really popular? That was bizarre.
Yes I remember. The Urge is one of my favorite 90s bands that blended ska into their sound. They were great live
>pop-rock
>pop-punk
>nu metal
just awful
There are still channels that play videos on cable. MTV,BET,CMT and even Nick play vids. Poors can watch YouTube playlists.
>implying
homosexual ass grunge fad was DOA and barely lasted a year outside homosexual suburbs and homosexual seattle
Zoomer here. How can you guys say the 90s was bad when it had Smashing Pumpking, Radiohead, Massive Attack and Bjork?
some of the greatest music came out in the 90s. You guys just had bad taste.
bjork in her prime was something else.
The 90s was top tier in not only music but entertainment in general. And the "bad" shit from the 90s still mogs a lot of modern stuff.
I bet the culture and human interaction was better as well? what happened?
This guy gets it.
Radiohead has always been shit, tho.
I was a HS freshman in '97. At the time there was only one cable provider in Iowa and that year they took MTV off their cable package. You could only get MTV if you lived in Des Moines or had satellite TV. I didn't get to watch MTV for all of high school
pure kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdYo3WlETY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6h4QCs0Pg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh9xH7fBnko
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=239vHrwt8Rs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-PSt73Uj_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqgVYX3zhug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV500W4BHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoZEtBQJN4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoQrwKJtv_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSuyWnRioY4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIibR7M9uZ4
I was 19 in 1997
It was a glorious time.
When does AARP start showing up?
btw this was way better then nu metal
>imagine
It wasnt in 1997, I remember in 2001 I was still happily watching MTV and it was still mostly music, the change happened later
and then no music at all replaced by reality tv
>LOVE ME LOVE ME
>Imagine not being a zoomer
>imagine growing up on homosexual rap during your teen years
I remember in highschool people would make fun of kids that listened to rap. It was for try hard wiggers.
That was a little before my time but I remember watching TRL in the early 2000s and being fricking mindblown when I saw The Real Slim Shady for the first time. I knew that was the future of music.
I could never take eminem seriously. His rap is just filled with jokes and random sound effects. He always came off closer to weird al than a serious rapper.
There's Em an then there's his alternate persona, Slim Shady and that's the one you're describing
back in the 90s I unleashed gallons of my semen to israeliteel and Shania Twain
Imagine? I fricking lived it. It was awful. Whiny emo metal everywhere. I remember the first time I saw adolescent boys in "skinny jeans" too. I knew the world was coming to an end. There was something instantly distasteful and sissy about them. Not only were they offputtingly feminine in intrinsic appearance, they were dysfunctional. You can't move or kick in tight jeans. We all wore baggy pants, partly because of pure pragmatism, and partly because it enabled us to do cool badass martial arts shit. Yes, you can say all that martial stuff was pretty cringe in retrospect. I'm sure there's a little bit of Mac from early Always Sunny in all of us. But the thing is, that's what you're supposed to do as kids. Be dumb, BUT strive for high ideals and positive, strong motivations. We aimed to be tough, cool, capable, utilitarian, responsive. How much that translated into adulthood is a subject for the historians, but you know what we DIDN'T do? Try to be slender, feminine, weak, and sissy. You don't hit targets you don't aim at.