In less than one month The Mouse will be public domain.
How will YOU defile him?
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In less than one month The Mouse will be public domain. How will YOU defile him?
In less than one month The Mouse will be public domain.
How will YOU defile him?
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I'll make him say "frick"
Holy shit. I didn't even consider this. They don't have the money to bribe for an extension do they?
There is not a chance. Republicans hate Disney right now.
They're switching over to "Let's enforce the trademark", which is why Steamboat Willie's the animation studio logo now.
I am dumb in legal-ese. Please explain.
If they're using it as a logo, other people can't use something in the public domain?
Trademark is permanent as it represents an entity, unlike conventional IP where artists own the work.
>tfw disney is literally turning their own artistic IP into corporate trademarks just to declare possession
oh the ironing
From my understanding trademark is meant to protect images that are used to identify something as a product of a certain source, mostly by having the mark on stuff like packaging. By making steamboat willie and potentially that version of mickey into such an image by including it in their logo, they can argue that having that version of mickey on your packaging would be a trademark issue by confusing the average person that the product comes from Disney. You'd still be able to use him in the content of your product, but it would limit the usage in regard to outward things like packaging, advertising, etc.
So those bargin bin collections of old PD cartoons could have Mickey Mouse shorts that were in the public domain but not have Mickey Mouse on the box, instead saying "Including classic Mickey Mouse episodes"?
Something along those lines, but it might just cover the shot of mickey at the wheel since that is what's in the logo, but that is the only shot from steamboat willie the average person would recognize anyway. I'm not a lawyer and I'm pretty sure this is the kind of grey area that Disney's army o lawyers might be able to stretch things pretty far.
So long as the Air Pirates ruling is still in effect, we're fine. Just make stuff that only an absolute fricking moron would believe Disney would ever put out.
What's the story here
>group of jokesters make a parody comic of Mickey Mouse and only Silly Symphonies characters fricking, sucking, and doing drugs
>Disney gets mad and tries to sue them
>Their argument is that a kid could be fooled into thinking this was a real Mickey comic
>The Air Pirates point out that not only does the comic say it's not for kids, they state that it would be pretty impossible for ANYONE to think their comic was made by Disney themselves
>While they ultimately lost the copyright aspect of the lawsuit, the courts dismissed the trademark aspect because, yes; no one would believe that just because Mickey is on something that it is an official Disney product
The funniest thing about the Air Pirates (and Dan O'Neill in particular) is they where were basically Cinemaphile trolls. O'Neill's idea was to ignore the court's decisions, get a new case, lose it, appeal, and keep the process going until Disney either gave up or made the courts jail him for drawing Mickey tugging at his wiener saying "frick".
And since he didn't ever go to jail, he totally believes he beat Disney.
I will publish a gay porn story greentext, and maybe something else
They don't
https://imgur.com/gallery/2EZIP
What about... A movie where is like a serial killer animatronic?
Isn't it just the old black and white design though?
You could invent your own design of Mickey Mouse too.
Oh boy!
Big titty micky here we go
We could always do that and say it's a parody.
But you couldn't -legally- publish a book or cartoon and say its featuring the real Mickey Mouse and use their name in the title. To make it legitimate parody it would have to be called Mokey Mouse or Wicky Wouce or some shit.
Not true, parody can have the character's name intact but have them behave in an obviously satirical or otherwise humorous way. South Park have had straight up Mickey Mouse as a character for years
Well, now you can do that without being satirical. You can just tell stories about your version of Mickey Mouse.
Can't wait for 2034 when Superman goes PD, that's gonna be a wild time.
You cant call it Mickey Mouse as long as the name is trademarked!
Question is if you can name it “The adventures of Mickey“?
>You cant call it Mickey Mouse as long as the name is trademarked!
Then how did that Winnie the Pooh horror film get away with using Winnie the Pooh in the title?
Disney only owns their specific version of Winnie the Pooh, the original book character is public domain.
Yes, so wouldn't that mean people could use the name Mickey Mouse in the title, just not saying it's "Disney's Mickey Mouse"
I don't think so. They still own the trademark for Mickey Mouse. There's no "Disney's Mickey Mouse", it's just Mickey Mouse and Disney owns that 100%.
Winnie the Pooh was not their creation to begin with, they only have trademarks for their version.
Disney owned and created Mickey first. Everyone ELSE'S version would have to be "____'s Mickey Mouse".
Because they wrote it like Winnie-the-Pooh while Disneys trademark is Winnie the Pooh!
Nope wrong. You can't call it Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse, or Disney's Mickey Mouse, and using Disney's iconic font would put on real thin ice.
But you most certainly CAN title your work Mickey Mouse. And you can trademark him yourself to go along with your new copyright on Mickey too.
I dont think that you can use Mickey Mouse. I think you need some additional word. Like
>New Mickey Mouse
or
>Mickey the Mouse.
Disney didn't have to put New Snow White on their Snow White, and ain't any other studio have to do that either if they want to adapt the story.
Thats the reason why you can use snow white as logo. Disney cant do anything to stop you to name it Snow White.
But you cant call it Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. And when you look at Wikipedia, there is no real Snow White as a title most ad something.
You mean Timeless River
It's really kind of fascinating how sound design was figured out essentially right away in animation, but simultaneously was also quite an obscure art for a lot of the 20th century after the golden age.
ONE cartoon will be PD.
More recent designs, characters, etc. will get you sued.
Disney may be having financial difficulties, but they can still afford millions of lawyers,
The characters themselves in the THREE cartoons will be public domain.
The legal concept that plot elements are their own separate legal copyright from the works themselves was determined with Neil Gaimen vs Todd McFarlane, where courts determined that Neil Gaiman owned the character of 'Medieval Spawn' as a distinct character from 'Spawn', due to the wording of his contract, even though McFarlane still held the copyright on the comic itself.
While you couldn't use or reference characters or 'plot points' (extremely vague concept) of works Disney still has under copyright, there is nothing legally preventing you from creating your own story with Mickey Mouse (provided you only use the designs featured in the public domain, or your own original design).
Not that they will care about 99% of productions using Mickey Mouse as if people haven't been ripping him off for years but if they did want to come after you good luck having a concept that hasn't been touched on in years of cartoons and comics
>The legal concept that plot elements are their own separate legal copyright from the works themselves was determined with Neil Gaimen vs Todd McFarlane, where courts determined that Neil Gaiman owned the character of 'Medieval Spawn' as a distinct character from 'Spawn', due to the wording of his contract, even though McFarlane still held the copyright on the comic itself.
Huh, I didn't know this, that was the reason SoulCalibur 2 in the first Xbox got Spawn instead of Medieval Spawn?
I don't know if it's the real reason, but the lawsuit was going on around that time and it may have been safer to use regular Spawn
Do keep in mind that in spite of Mickey now being public domain based on those first few shorts, Disney could still sue anyone that uses Mickey in any way that they interpret as being too similar as later copyrighted works. The Conan Doyle estate for decades only had the last few Sherlock Holmes stories under copyright, but would sue people who did their own versions of Holmes for the dumbest reasons, such as claiming that Holmes was emotionless until those last few stories, so any depiction of Holmes with emotions is clearly copyright infringement. It's why The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles had to use the localization "Herlock Sholmes".
They'd be dumb frivolous lawsuits that would inevitably fail, but Disney has the money and lawyers to pull it off, and most people would just give up or settle to avoid going broke.
>3
There's 4.
>Plane Crazy
>Gallopin' Gaucho
>Steamboat Willie
>The Barn Dance
Barn Dance wasn't released till 1929
Unfortunetly people like the Burroughs and Dolye estates have managed to posion the well of public domain by taking a trademark into a legal claims machine.
I love the Barsoom books but god damn is his family a bunch of c**ts about it
Test
sex
They already did this
I feel like you're a dumb 13 year old who thinks this is genuine
dickcheese
I will stream Steamboat Willie for 24 hours on Twitch.
No one will be allowed to say 'Frick Black folk' on it, though. I'm deeply sorry.
Can't wait for the abundance of Mickey Mouse R Rated horror parodies and people saying "yeah those well animated, charming, funny and cute cartoons from the past were actually bad because something something money and greed. Making click bait movies and chasing an algorithm isn't totally just that guys, I swear."
Can't wait for one bad Mickey Mouse R Rated horror parody to be made so corpocucks can point at it and go "See? Public domain bad! Corporations should own ideas forever!"
They'll just renew it
How many times I need to tell you copyright and trademark are two different things!!!
How many times do people have to tell you trademark is not some magic copyright replacement.
It isnt but it is a gatekeeper.
I want DreamWorks to make a Mickey mouse movie
Warner Bros making one would be a more amusing chad move
they could cross him over with felix
I'll leave that task to desperate idiots disguising their intent of exploiting a chance to make an easy buck behind the pretense of moral comeuppance against ~~*them*~~
Will we get a new video game?
If you need to wait to "defile" it until it's legal to do so, you're just a little spineless b***h. Just a reminder.
by making sure to not use non-public domain shit that might get me canned
I wonder how many fricking morons are going to use the modern designs and modern characters. Seeing shit tier "Look Mickey Mouse is a murder rapist!" animations and movies get struck down by the wrath of Disney because they gave him red pants and yellow buttons will be far more entertaining than anything morons doing that will ever make
wont popeye be public domain as well? his comic debut was right about the same time
Popeye is in like 2 or 3 years
Popeye's first year of comics goes PD in 2025 in the US. He's already PD in Europe
Mickey vs Oswald vs Felix vs Bosko all out brawl
The Mickey cartoon The Mad Doctor is already public domain
What's stopping me from creating derivative works based on that version of Mickey right now?
Cause Mickey didn't first appear in the Mad Doctor, he first appeared in Steamboat Willie.
Draw Shrek facefricking Micky and send it to Bob Igor
Turn him into a monster. It'll be easy.
Bring back House of Mouse. DUH.
I can't wait to see the sex and funny swears people will make him do for exactly one month after the news drops
Honestly people have done it for decades without much issue
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the only real change are event planners for kids stuff can now sell Mickey decorations without giving kick backs.
The real question is, will any of the big studios be willing get on Disneys shit list to find and cosign a professional production with the character. Legally the Big D can't touch them, but there's other ways to screw people over.
>Edgy shit
Its not the first time, as Suicide Mouse is popular in creepypasta community
The real question is, would whoever made the original Suicide Mouse creepypasta take advantage of it to make their own thing?
That's not how things work.
Don't go complaining when you get sued.
Please tell us how things work.
He won't, he just likes saying that
Disney has made thousands of works with Mickey Mouse.
If anything you produce has even the slightest similiarity with anything that Disney ever did then prepare to get sued to hell.
So I'll be able to make Steamboat Willie's Mickey do anything I want?
All I have to do is to use the exact same design?
Yes but don't forget his iconic voice came later
So for now you have to make him sound like Kevin Michael Richardson
Or your own original Mickey Mouse design.
Commission someone to make The Unfunnies: Mickey edition
retirement
Stay banned.
what's a "ban"?
>Steamboat Willie
You'll get nothing.
vtuber mickey time
The public domain gonna be real interesting from here on out
I hope Toon Heads makes a comeback. It'd be nice to see that kind of touch given to non Warner/MGM cartoons