In real life, superhero existence won't make the world a better place. These superhero movies and show prove that there's only a thin line on good and bad to cross
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In real life, superhero existence won't make the world a better place.
>In real life, superhero existence won't make the world a better place. These superhero movies and show prove that there's only a thin line on good and bad to cross
you need to go back
Nice jak.
Probably. But it would be worth it if someone with superpowers really did try.
Batman v Superman is probably the only movie or show that deconstructs how superheroes would function in real life. The Boys is reddit garbage and Watchmen misses the point of the original comic. I can't think of anything else.
It's been years since I've watched or read it, what was off in the movie? From my memory j remember them being pretty damn close. Unless. Did they change Manhatten's speech on Mars?
They didn't change the basic outline much, it's more so that they changed a lot of little things that ultimately changed the meaning, i;e the "nothing ever ends" exchange between Ozymandias and Dr Manhattan is now between Laurie and Dan which completely takes away from the meaning.
>anything written by a commie could have meaning
nice try homosexual
>Batman v Superman is probably the only movie or show that deconstructs how superheroes would function in real life.
Maye, but that movie needed a lot of contrivance to go forward with that idea. Snyder wanted to have that narrative prevalent throughout with all the background dialogue of newscaster talking about him and the whole whodunnit regarding that middle east business, trying to weave this idea of "oh, is Superman really here to help us?" and shit, and that's all fine. But then he showed us the answer to the middle east business before Superman even showed up and then had all the god/savior imagery with that montage of him saving people.
All of that's for the audience, but none of it worked because Snyder showed the answer to the question of "is Superman good?" before the question is even asked. And then he established Lois has been with Kal for over a year, so it's even more meaningless because now we have confirmation he's been at this a year with decent results. It's like, we're way past this stage of him trying to doubt himself now. Most of this was in Man of Steel already. Lex spent the whole movie mouthing off about "le god evil???" and Batman had to already be a schizo for the climax to happen. Every party had to act like this was their first time alive in order for that deconstruction to even be attempted.
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Batman v Superman is Christkino. Watchmen does interesting things with both Manhattan (who really is just a miserable man burdened by knowledge and immortality) and Ozymandias (who is pretty much the antichrist).
The Boys is pure filth and doesn't deserve being talked about.
Of course, especially with like mutants where there's a bunch of buttholes getting powers.
All DC???
OP is a troony homosexual, so of course he is a Marvel shill.
The boys is the most accurate depiction by far
They all would be egomaniac celebrities obsessed with degeneracy, wealth, fame, and power.
Superman grew up as a good boy on a farm in Kansas
In a time before twitter.
Except Snyder Superman has never been close to bad and saved the world 3 times
Not bad, but there's definitely concern with beings like him.
Only if you are a projecting psychopath
>watch men
>the boys
>*man v *man
latent homosexuality: the thread?
I feel like the boys is accurate. If random people just grew up with powers there would be all kinds of shit going. Especially if they were made by a dark secret nazi corporation. If anyone with Homie's powers decides to lose it we're really all dead. There's no chance a Superman comes into the world and he gets his own ma and pa kent to raise him decent.
If you have a large amount of power and nothing to hold you accountable, at some stage in your darkest moment you will do something horrific.
You could spend your entire life as a superhero and then realize near your death that you might as well do what you want, the world owes you that. Alternatively, you are invincible, you get bored and do what you want because you've done everything else.
>If you have a large amount of power and nothing to hold you accountable, at some stage in your darkest moment you will do something horrific.
This is always the excuse and yet, most people won't commit murder or rape in a setting they can get away with it. I know it flies in the face of current liberal dogma but most people are inherently good, even with power.
>but most people are inherently good
I really don't think so. I also think that's the liberal point of view which allows for all these "freedoms" people indulge in.
Many dudes would rape women if they could get away with it and I'm sure the number is much higher if it were actually the case and they had time to mull over it.
Most people do not commit heinous acts in their every day life because it's too bothersome to deal with that shit while part of society. If you were a god like Superman, nobody could stop you, you'd get bored eventually with your existence and experiment. It'd be small things at first, but it could escalate from there bit by bit.
People are inherently good, but the simple reality is that in a true setting with no chance you'll ever face repercussions - eventually on your darkest day you will, because you want to at the time.
Yes, you'll get bored of them too. Imagine fighting a supervillain every single day with new nonsense powers or worse still you get bored of waiting for the next one to appear. You get nonsense about how much damage you caused to buildings and every life you fail to save hangs on you. You get depressed, frustrated, angry at the whole of society and if you neglect to save people or fail to fight the supervillain even once then the entire world will brand you a coward or a failure or a villain also.
>Alternatively, you are invincible, you get bored
There's too many fricking supervillains to get bored in a regular capeshit universe
This is what would actually happen. But no one wants to watch a movie of superman doing manual labor so they make him do cool shit instead
Cavil's Superman literally did nothing wrong. He was a paragon of righteousness who sacrificed EVERYTHING to protect Earth, even the future of his own people
This shot and the buildup to it is why I love this movie.
The boys is a DC stuff, then? do you recommend it?
I just know i wouldn't watch any marvel shit
Yes, technically "The Boys" is DC, given that it's under the Wildstorm comics brand.
BvS doesn't belong on that list because it's got a running subtext about confirmation bias. Clark Kent is being fed cherrypicked information about the Batman, things tailor-made to offend his sense of morality and justice. Bruce is being fed info meant to push his trauma buttons and deepen his fears of a powerful, unstoppable alien. They're both only seeing what they want(fear) to see. The world looks at Superman and does the same. Superman looks at the world and does the same. He's a polarizing figure, but in a mixed crowd of admirers and protestors, he only focuses on the bad. Even more, he's aware of how even the worship he encounters, the almost religious awe he's sometimes met with is also a very dangerous thing. After the bombing, we see how all around the country(and the world) there are people who always saw him for exactly what he is - a good man trying to do the right thing. When he dies, you finally see the truth. The radical extremes that rabidly hate or fervently deify him were only ever fringe minorities. The whole world mourns his loss.
In BvS, it's not the superhumans making the world worse. It's us. But after Superman's sacrifice, even Bruce Wayne's faith in humanity is restored.
>this work of fiction proves how reality would function
They derogatorily call it "comic book justice" for a reason. Nothing in life is black and white. There's nuance in real life. Gray decisions, gray area. Not everyone finds the same things appetizing.
global geopolitics would be radically different if there were people who had superpowers.
many of them are simply unkillable, or have abilities that make law and military force irrelevant this would almost certainly reshape civilization as we know it.
nobody ever remembers that powers existed for like 2 seasons
bait post that ill respond to only because
BvS. Yikes. The folks that try to elevate this shit above shlock (akin to transformers) are barf
Real life superheroes already do exist...
>abortionist israelite
>literally a looks like a witch
what I never see is superheroes helping building things like superbridges, moon colonies or whatever, its allways defending the earth but never helping the humans geting out there and colonize space
That's a failing if the serial nature of monthly comics. They're stuck in this perpetual "now" meant to grant some sense of verisimilitude that they don't necessarily need. In the comics, there are all sorts of super-tech companies that interact with the MCs in all sorts of ways (S.T.A.R. Labs and Cadmus in DC, AIM and Roxxon in Marvel, for example), and there are all manner of government projects making use of superhumans. Hell, the Fantastic Four basically *is* a super-tech company, but all these entities are never depicted as causing any sweeping societal changes. The same city where Reed Richards is opening dimensional rifts still has ghettos and poverty. It's kind of dumb, but you just sort of roll with it.
Lol did you post this to Twitter or did you steal it from there
>prove
They prove that Zak is a hack. They prove nothing about reality.
the whole point is they aren't real, they aren't supposed to represent everyday people. Superheroes are the extension of the heroes of myths. they're idealized versions of qualities a society values.
if they behaved selfishly then they'd be the villain.
You know one of the coolest takes I ever saw on this? The relaunch of the Flash. It was when Wally West took over the mantle from Barry. When it starts, Wally's a self-loathing manprostitute who can barely break the speed of sound on a good day. But he's still a hero. He's still out there saving people and trying to live up to the example Barry Allen set. The problem is that he's got a lot of the same issues that former child stars have. He's not the sidekick anymore, and he spent most of his adolescence coasting on that fame. He's got no job, no income other than some monthly checks he gets from being a reservist for the Titans.
He gets asked to deliver a heart for an organ transplant to a Colorado hospital that's been snowed in. He says, "OK, but in return I want free health care for life." He's still got this core of nobility and hates himself a little for making the demand, but he's also being realistic.