Forgot that was 2010s, for some reason I thought it was 2009.
Searching for Sugarman is about some Detroit musician from the 1970s who was pretty much unknown in the USA but became bigger than Elvis in South Africa
>The decade was defined by the masters of digital
Nah, it was the decade prior with Mann's Miami Vice, Lynch's Inland Empire, and the Wachowski's Speed Racer.
it was a shit decade. i am still watching new shit from the 80s and 90s that is kino as frick. 2-3 good movies in the last 10 years and absolutely jack shit else.
>but not the worst
oh really? it led to the present which is pretty bleak imo for mainstream cinema anyways.
Near everything is kneecapped from the jump with cheap bullshit filming techniques to ease post processing and redistribution.
Much easier to remove CGI blood instead of squibs for overseas.
The last 10 years also saw the shift to movies shooting "for coverage", meaning they get as many angles as possible so they always have something to cut away to when they have to remove something or add in a pickup shot later.
Also why cinematography for blockbusters sucks now. Bunch of close-ups of Tom Cruise's nose hairs and b-roll inserts just for cutaway material to cover up jump cuts, and because you have to shoot this way, you can't plan out long shots with complex blocking and staging.
Maybe worst of all to my eye is nobody knows how to light this shit and color grade it; let alone greenscreen vomit
I go out of my way to way older movies just for the richer color saturation and spatial reverberations
Tell me what decade would be worse that you've seen much from
Obviously the best was the 60s-00s. Once you have such a well defined golden era of filmmaking, everything that comes after it will be a cheap imitation. It's completely true that new movies are getting in the way of old movies that were much better. >But you're just remembering the good movies of that time period
Exactly, we shouldn't waste our time with the shit movies of that era or this era. The thing about this era though is that you give it more leniency because new = worth talking about in your mind
I watched Rebels of the Neon God and liked it a lot. Turned off The River early on in the Sauna scene, and Vivre in the sex scenes. The Hole also turned off early...
Why do slow cinema directors insist on showing us nothing of interest? There is lots of needless shots of empty walls in films like Damnation that would've been better off being cut... 5 seconds staring at a wall on a screen is 5 seconds too much
Every year it's the same with Cinemaphile >[current year] is the worst ever for movies >then the next year comes and it becomes the worst ever for movie with the previous year being looked at good >rinse and repeat every single year, every decade
You people are just moronic
No, it means everyone is moronic. The only reason why people think movies now are worse is because of the access and knowledge to all of them. Previous decades have been curated to show you the best ones. They don't show the worst of the worst from the 80s or 90s on streaming services because nobody will watch them. They only show the good ones.
So artistic currents never rise, stagante or decline? >Previous decades have been curated to show you the best ones.
Then compare best vs best, moron >They don't show the worst of the worst from the 80s or 90s on streaming services
Except people have actually lived in those decades and have actually seen the worst. That's why they can say that modern shit is worse.
I've seen Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters Cops, ET and Mac&Me, Die Hard and Samurai Cop. Therefore whe I say that modern shit is terrible and getting worse, it's because that's how things are.
Now sit down, redditard. You are not entitled to have the best thing ever to happen now just because you are alive now
>So artistic currents never rise, stagante or decline?
Not when it comes to movies. You simply have no knowledge about all the prior ones. >Then compare best vs best, moron
Who decides what are the "best"? Who gave that person/those people the power to decide that? You're also cutting off the other 99% of movies. That's not fair at all. What if movies from the 80s have 2x the amount of best movies, but also 10x the amount of worst movies? >Except people have actually lived in those decades and have actually seen the worst. That's why they can say that modern shit is worse.
They didn't have access and knowledge of ALL the movies released in the 80s like you have today with movies. It was whatever was showing at the cinemas or avilable for rent. That's it. They knew maybe 1% of all movies released. >I've seen
Yes, you've seen very few movies from the 80s. Have you seen the dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of incredibly shitty slasher movies? How about Violent Shit? What about the abysmal East Asian market? Definitely sucks some major ass compared to those of the 2010s and 2020s. >You are not entitled to have the best thing ever to happen now just because you are alive now
Never claimed I was. Want to put more words in my mouth or just stop with the fallacies?
>Not when it comes to movies.
Source: your ass >You simply have no knowledge about all the prior ones.
Except I do >Who decides what are the "best"? Who gave that person/those people the power to decide that?
The piece of art itself. >You're also cutting off the other 99% of movies. That's not fair at all. What if movies from the 80s have 2x the amount of best movies, but also 10x the amount of worst movies?
Doubt. More things than ever are made now. And even if that was true, the entire point is that good movies actually existed. >They didn't have access and knowledge of ALL the movies released in the 80s like you have today with movies. It was whatever was showing at the cinemas or avilable for rent. That's it. They knew maybe 1% of all movies released.
You don't watch all movies today. Back than you could't pick the shouw you wanted to watch and there were more reruns, therefore people had a clear perception of most movies. >>I've seen >Yes, you've seen very few movies from the 80s. Have you seen the dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of incredibly shitty slasher movies? How about Violent Shit? What about the abysmal East Asian market?
I've seen a frickton fo dogshit. And that's why I said "compare best vs best", or even "b-movie vs b-movie" >Definitely sucks some major ass compared to those of the 2010s and 2020s.
if you compare 80s bottom 100 to 10s/20s bottom 100 you can only conclude that dogshit always existed, but we are discussing the decline of movie and increasing scarcity of quality, not dogshit always existing. >Never claimed I was. Want to put more words in my mouth or just stop with the fallacies?
You dismissed any claim against current era as bias, because decline can't possibly happen with movies, dingo
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Source: your ass
No, source is me, as it's subjective. You clearly missed that. >Except I do
No, you have knowledge of 1% at best. >The piece of art itself
That's not an answer. Someone has to decide what is considered "best". Just admit it's entirely subjective. >the entire point is that good movies actually existed
Again, says who? Who decides what's good and what's bad? It's entirely subjective. >You don't watch all movies today. Back than you could't pick the shouw you wanted to watch and there were more reruns, therefore people had a clear perception of most movies.
No, they didn't. They knew about the movies at the theaters and what they rented. That's it. Today you know more movies because you have the internet. You have streaming platforms with thousands of movies or torrent sites with tens of or hundreds of thousands of movies. You can do a simple IMDB search these days and find damn near every movie ever released. >I've seen a frickton fo dogshit. And that's why I said "compare best vs best"
Which is stupid. You have to compare the ENTIRE catalog against each other. >if you compare 80s bottom 100 to 10s/20s bottom 100 you can only conclude that dogshit always existed, but we are discussing the decline of movie and increasing scarcity of quality, not dogshit always existing
If you think there were better movies coming out of East Asian in the 80s compared to the 2020s and 2010s, you're actually insane. Even the quality of TV shows have increased dramatically from the 2000s to the 2010s and 2020s in East Asia. >You dismissed any claim against current era as bias, because decline can't possibly happen with movies, dingo
Never said that, but nice fallacy.
You lost. Thanks for the all fallacies. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Muh subjectivity
No. It's objective >you need to consider all the slop
No, I don't. >I won because I said so
No, you don't
There were more great movies in past decades than there are now. At least that's how I feel about it.
I did a quick research on my ratings, and here's how many movie per decade, I rated 8+ on IMDb:
1910s: 2
1920s: 12
1930s: 10
1940s: 15
1950s: 37
1960s: 40
1970s: 28
1980s: 23
1990s: 26
2000s: 25
2010s: 10
2020s: 1
It doesn't matter how many movies I have watched but how many of them were great (8+). And as you can see I think less movies were great from the 2010s and up, than in previous decades.
Again, you saw more curated movies from previous decades, which is to be expected. You also rate movies now harder than those that came out before. There's also pressure to rate classics high. >It doesn't matter how many movies I have watched but how many of them were great
But it does matter how many you have watched. If you watch 5 movies from 2020s and 1 is great, that's 20%. If you watch 100 movies from 2010s and 10 are great, that's only 10%. See how it matters?
You don't get it, do you? It doesn't matter how many bad movies I have watched, I don't let that affect how good a decade was.
I could have watched hundreds of bad movies, I'm not counting them.
I am only counting the ones I thought were great.
And there are less of them in the 2010s and up, than in previous decades.
And as you have said, I have more access to the movies of the 2010s and up, yet I cannot find as many good ones as I do from previous decades that I have less access too.
Naturally, the older the decade, the less movies I have watched. For example, I have watched only 37 movies from the 1920s but 819 from the 2010s.
That should mean that I should be able to find more good movies from the 2010s since I have more movies available to me. But quite the opposite, I found more good movies from past decades even though there are fewer of them available to watch.
And pressure? That doesn't work. The pressure that exists, is to compel you to like the newer movies that are promoted and hyped by influencers and advertising.
And my ratings are honest, I would have no one fool but myself otherwise. If I don't like a movie which is rated high, I won't rate it the same.
For example, many classics of the past, that I have considered too slow, too artsy fartsy, too incomprehensible... I haven't rated as high as they are on IMDb.
I gave Space Odyssey a 6 even though it's rated 8.3 and everyone praises it as a classic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It doesn't matter how many bad movies I have watched, I don't let that affect how good a decade was
Then you're an idiot. Thanks for admitting you're a moron. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We are discussing movies going down, not shit always existing, moron
if we assume everything is about profit
with improving technology(cameras and lighting being more accessible) and internet capabilities for distribution, will indie productions make a resurgence for kino?
i suppose the most difficult part is the initial audience, needing proven kino for them to take a chance and for people to be willing to provide self investment
2019 was arguably the most kino year since 1999
For me, it's 2014.
Agreed
Onto hating the current decade of movies until the next one and the cycle continues.
You should replace a bunch of those with documentaries including one of my very personal favorites. Can you guess which? Remember where you are.
Searching for Sugarman
The Act of Killing
No I've never heard of that first one but The Act of Killing should definitely go on there. But no I meant Room 237
Forgot that was 2010s, for some reason I thought it was 2009.
Searching for Sugarman is about some Detroit musician from the 1970s who was pretty much unknown in the USA but became bigger than Elvis in South Africa
The decade was defined by the masters of digital: Refn, Fincher, Villeneuve, etc.
What does digital have to do with anything? I guess they can watch dailies right away?
>The decade was defined by the masters of digital
Nah, it was the decade prior with Mann's Miami Vice, Lynch's Inland Empire, and the Wachowski's Speed Racer.
What an awful list
perhaps that was the joke? i cant tell anymore
>13 of those films are MCU
>19 are different flavors of capeshit
bait image
>2010s was actually a decent decade for movies
It was okay, but your pic makes it seem awful.
these tbh
>trash
>trash (capeshit)
>meh
>Black person trash
>trash
>trash (capeshit)
>meh
>trash
>nolantrash
>meh
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (capeshit)
>nolan but meh
>artsy trash
>space israelite trash
>sad israelite trash
>meh
>trash (capeshit)
>fishfricker trash
>nolan but meh
>women r scary
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (capeshit) also REDDIT
>OK ONE GOOD MOVIE
>space israelite TURBO trash
>homosexual trash
>Black person AND homosexual trash
>Scorsese trash
>Black person trash
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (wannabe capeshit)
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (capeshit)
>Pixar Trash
>Didn't watch
>Overrated trash
>meh
>OKAY GOOD MOVIE NUMBER TWO
>Didn't watch
>Feminist trash
>trash (capeshit)
>Hispanic trash
>trash (capeshit)
>space israelite trash
>meh
>actual israelite trash
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (capeshit)
>trash (horror as a genre)
>REDDIT
>trash
>I'M ACTING!!!
>Black person trash
>meh
>AIDS homosexual TRASH
>trash (capeshit)
>I'M ACTING TARANTINO
>not bad I'll give you 3
>meh
>meh
>trash (nolan)
>Ruined An Entire Generation Of Women
>trash (capeshit) AND REDDIT
>trash (capeshit)
>didn't watch
>didn't watch
>borderline capeshit
>creepy ass animation
>Sandra Bullock breathing heavily for two hours
>FURhomosexual SHIT
who asked?
the 2 good movies from your rating, both goose
coincidence? i think not
holy shit you guys have terrible taste
the most fun Cinemaphile game is to shit on anyone rating something positively and provide no counter suggestions
>the martian
>edge of tomorrow
Why does he look like a hobo bros
Two of the best movies from the decade, so I guess reddit is a compliment.
Edge of Tomorrow is insanely overrated.
Yep. It falls apart i nthe last third
I don't usually say this, but holy filtered.
nah
sure
>the social network
>The Martian that high
>Fallout, Rogue Nation, Under the Skin that low
reddit decade
it was a shit decade. i am still watching new shit from the 80s and 90s that is kino as frick. 2-3 good movies in the last 10 years and absolutely jack shit else.
The Dallas Buyers Club was good
Decade of capeshit
Yeah but i ignored it
>Get out, capeshit, modern starwars, bait Black movies etc
Jesus, such a shit bait and garbage list.
Every single film in that image is better than this fat frick's embarassing movie
Doesn't make them good
>but not the worst
oh really? it led to the present which is pretty bleak imo for mainstream cinema anyways.
Near everything is kneecapped from the jump with cheap bullshit filming techniques to ease post processing and redistribution.
Much easier to remove CGI blood instead of squibs for overseas.
The last 10 years also saw the shift to movies shooting "for coverage", meaning they get as many angles as possible so they always have something to cut away to when they have to remove something or add in a pickup shot later.
Also why cinematography for blockbusters sucks now. Bunch of close-ups of Tom Cruise's nose hairs and b-roll inserts just for cutaway material to cover up jump cuts, and because you have to shoot this way, you can't plan out long shots with complex blocking and staging.
Maybe worst of all to my eye is nobody knows how to light this shit and color grade it; let alone greenscreen vomit
I go out of my way to way older movies just for the richer color saturation and spatial reverberations
Tell me what decade would be worse that you've seen much from
>Tell me what decade would be worse that you've seen much from
This. Answer the question, homosexual
This decade is so bad it's causing people to hallucinate that the 2010s were acceptable.
So much fricking capeshit...jesus. The 90's and the 00's absolutely body the 2010's for quality and artistic vision
pirates of the caribbean and transmorphers are also capeshit
except theyre at least entertaining
For kids of 00s.
10s have new kids.
did you do that on purpose?
>capeshit
>goyslop
>LGBTXYZ Oscar bait
>literal children’s cartoons
lol movies are dead and they’re never coming back dude.
Name a worse decade I fricking dare you
>Get Out, Avengers and Black Panther starting off the list
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!
Youre right but most of these movies aren't that good
the 2010s are 2020s are probably underrated
people are just obsessed with the state of capeshit
Obviously the best was the 60s-00s. Once you have such a well defined golden era of filmmaking, everything that comes after it will be a cheap imitation. It's completely true that new movies are getting in the way of old movies that were much better.
>But you're just remembering the good movies of that time period
Exactly, we shouldn't waste our time with the shit movies of that era or this era. The thing about this era though is that you give it more leniency because new = worth talking about in your mind
>The best era of films was the second half of the 20th century.
You have to be more specific than that, anon.
about 14 of these are must watch, the rest are skippable or a waste of your time
I agree, but you posted the wrong films
Stray Dogs filtered me. Despite having an interest in similar movies, I just don't find such static shots of people and nature engaging.
had you seen Tsais other films before watching it?
I watched Rebels of the Neon God and liked it a lot. Turned off The River early on in the Sauna scene, and Vivre in the sex scenes. The Hole also turned off early...
Why do slow cinema directors insist on showing us nothing of interest? There is lots of needless shots of empty walls in films like Damnation that would've been better off being cut... 5 seconds staring at a wall on a screen is 5 seconds too much
I like all of those a lot, The River and Stray Dogs are my favourite tsaikinos, I guess it and slow cinema are just not for you
‘10, ‘11, ‘14, 17, and ‘19 were the kino-est years of the decade. Least Kino was ‘18.
LB is mainstream. RYM gives arthouse vibes.
https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/film/2010s/
Every year it's the same with Cinemaphile
>[current year] is the worst ever for movies
>then the next year comes and it becomes the worst ever for movie with the previous year being looked at good
>rinse and repeat every single year, every decade
You people are just moronic
It just mean that things are getting worse very year, moron
No, it means everyone is moronic. The only reason why people think movies now are worse is because of the access and knowledge to all of them. Previous decades have been curated to show you the best ones. They don't show the worst of the worst from the 80s or 90s on streaming services because nobody will watch them. They only show the good ones.
So artistic currents never rise, stagante or decline?
>Previous decades have been curated to show you the best ones.
Then compare best vs best, moron
>They don't show the worst of the worst from the 80s or 90s on streaming services
Except people have actually lived in those decades and have actually seen the worst. That's why they can say that modern shit is worse.
I've seen Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters Cops, ET and Mac&Me, Die Hard and Samurai Cop. Therefore whe I say that modern shit is terrible and getting worse, it's because that's how things are.
Now sit down, redditard. You are not entitled to have the best thing ever to happen now just because you are alive now
>So artistic currents never rise, stagante or decline?
Not when it comes to movies. You simply have no knowledge about all the prior ones.
>Then compare best vs best, moron
Who decides what are the "best"? Who gave that person/those people the power to decide that? You're also cutting off the other 99% of movies. That's not fair at all. What if movies from the 80s have 2x the amount of best movies, but also 10x the amount of worst movies?
>Except people have actually lived in those decades and have actually seen the worst. That's why they can say that modern shit is worse.
They didn't have access and knowledge of ALL the movies released in the 80s like you have today with movies. It was whatever was showing at the cinemas or avilable for rent. That's it. They knew maybe 1% of all movies released.
>I've seen
Yes, you've seen very few movies from the 80s. Have you seen the dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of incredibly shitty slasher movies? How about Violent Shit? What about the abysmal East Asian market? Definitely sucks some major ass compared to those of the 2010s and 2020s.
>You are not entitled to have the best thing ever to happen now just because you are alive now
Never claimed I was. Want to put more words in my mouth or just stop with the fallacies?
>Not when it comes to movies.
Source: your ass
>You simply have no knowledge about all the prior ones.
Except I do
>Who decides what are the "best"? Who gave that person/those people the power to decide that?
The piece of art itself.
>You're also cutting off the other 99% of movies. That's not fair at all. What if movies from the 80s have 2x the amount of best movies, but also 10x the amount of worst movies?
Doubt. More things than ever are made now. And even if that was true, the entire point is that good movies actually existed.
>They didn't have access and knowledge of ALL the movies released in the 80s like you have today with movies. It was whatever was showing at the cinemas or avilable for rent. That's it. They knew maybe 1% of all movies released.
You don't watch all movies today. Back than you could't pick the shouw you wanted to watch and there were more reruns, therefore people had a clear perception of most movies.
>>I've seen
>Yes, you've seen very few movies from the 80s. Have you seen the dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of incredibly shitty slasher movies? How about Violent Shit? What about the abysmal East Asian market?
I've seen a frickton fo dogshit. And that's why I said "compare best vs best", or even "b-movie vs b-movie"
>Definitely sucks some major ass compared to those of the 2010s and 2020s.
if you compare 80s bottom 100 to 10s/20s bottom 100 you can only conclude that dogshit always existed, but we are discussing the decline of movie and increasing scarcity of quality, not dogshit always existing.
>Never claimed I was. Want to put more words in my mouth or just stop with the fallacies?
You dismissed any claim against current era as bias, because decline can't possibly happen with movies, dingo
>Source: your ass
No, source is me, as it's subjective. You clearly missed that.
>Except I do
No, you have knowledge of 1% at best.
>The piece of art itself
That's not an answer. Someone has to decide what is considered "best". Just admit it's entirely subjective.
>the entire point is that good movies actually existed
Again, says who? Who decides what's good and what's bad? It's entirely subjective.
>You don't watch all movies today. Back than you could't pick the shouw you wanted to watch and there were more reruns, therefore people had a clear perception of most movies.
No, they didn't. They knew about the movies at the theaters and what they rented. That's it. Today you know more movies because you have the internet. You have streaming platforms with thousands of movies or torrent sites with tens of or hundreds of thousands of movies. You can do a simple IMDB search these days and find damn near every movie ever released.
>I've seen a frickton fo dogshit. And that's why I said "compare best vs best"
Which is stupid. You have to compare the ENTIRE catalog against each other.
>if you compare 80s bottom 100 to 10s/20s bottom 100 you can only conclude that dogshit always existed, but we are discussing the decline of movie and increasing scarcity of quality, not dogshit always existing
If you think there were better movies coming out of East Asian in the 80s compared to the 2020s and 2010s, you're actually insane. Even the quality of TV shows have increased dramatically from the 2000s to the 2010s and 2020s in East Asia.
>You dismissed any claim against current era as bias, because decline can't possibly happen with movies, dingo
Never said that, but nice fallacy.
You lost. Thanks for the all fallacies. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it.
>Muh subjectivity
No. It's objective
>you need to consider all the slop
No, I don't.
>I won because I said so
No, you don't
Back to red.dit, sperg
There were more great movies in past decades than there are now. At least that's how I feel about it.
I did a quick research on my ratings, and here's how many movie per decade, I rated 8+ on IMDb:
1910s: 2
1920s: 12
1930s: 10
1940s: 15
1950s: 37
1960s: 40
1970s: 28
1980s: 23
1990s: 26
2000s: 25
2010s: 10
2020s: 1
It doesn't matter how many movies I have watched but how many of them were great (8+). And as you can see I think less movies were great from the 2010s and up, than in previous decades.
Again, you saw more curated movies from previous decades, which is to be expected. You also rate movies now harder than those that came out before. There's also pressure to rate classics high.
>It doesn't matter how many movies I have watched but how many of them were great
But it does matter how many you have watched. If you watch 5 movies from 2020s and 1 is great, that's 20%. If you watch 100 movies from 2010s and 10 are great, that's only 10%. See how it matters?
You don't get it, do you? It doesn't matter how many bad movies I have watched, I don't let that affect how good a decade was.
I could have watched hundreds of bad movies, I'm not counting them.
I am only counting the ones I thought were great.
And there are less of them in the 2010s and up, than in previous decades.
And as you have said, I have more access to the movies of the 2010s and up, yet I cannot find as many good ones as I do from previous decades that I have less access too.
Naturally, the older the decade, the less movies I have watched. For example, I have watched only 37 movies from the 1920s but 819 from the 2010s.
That should mean that I should be able to find more good movies from the 2010s since I have more movies available to me. But quite the opposite, I found more good movies from past decades even though there are fewer of them available to watch.
And pressure? That doesn't work. The pressure that exists, is to compel you to like the newer movies that are promoted and hyped by influencers and advertising.
And my ratings are honest, I would have no one fool but myself otherwise. If I don't like a movie which is rated high, I won't rate it the same.
For example, many classics of the past, that I have considered too slow, too artsy fartsy, too incomprehensible... I haven't rated as high as they are on IMDb.
I gave Space Odyssey a 6 even though it's rated 8.3 and everyone praises it as a classic.
>It doesn't matter how many bad movies I have watched, I don't let that affect how good a decade was
Then you're an idiot. Thanks for admitting you're a moron. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it.
We are discussing movies going down, not shit always existing, moron
what are the 10 great movies from the 2010s in your opinion?
I liked 574 movies from the 2010s out of the 778 that I've seen.
Most popular movies from 2010s on Letterboxd?
The only decade worse than then 2010s, is the 2020s so far.
if we assume everything is about profit
with improving technology(cameras and lighting being more accessible) and internet capabilities for distribution, will indie productions make a resurgence for kino?
i suppose the most difficult part is the initial audience, needing proven kino for them to take a chance and for people to be willing to provide self investment
Birdman and Logan are really it
there were a few good films in the early 2010s
but as it one the quality got worse
2010's had some gems here and there but on the whole it was soulless trash.
Even the 2000's were pretty shit despite having some bangers come out every year at-least.
I agree with your statement, but your taste is awful
I've only seen fury road on that whole list.
trash image
>All that capeshit
Saint Scorsese please nuke Hollywood this instant