All the Build shows after the original Build Fighters? Yes, they are all bad.
The OG Build Fighters and Gunpla Builders Beginning G are the only good ones.
Build Fighters is just a really fun celebration of Gundam. It's a decent show in it's own right, but the real draw is all the fanservice, cameos, and the energy of everyone on the dev team just really, really liking Gundam. If you don't see the appeal of our hero Gundams fighting a Zaku that's fifty times their size because it's a RG or whatever it is, then you might just not know how to have fun.
And Re:RISE is just straight up really good. For the first half, at least.
Multi-faceted.
First off, Tryon 3 made a very great impression by being simply cool, everything before him was quite boring since it'd show up and Sekai would punch it. It got stale like the build strike was in danger of being near the end of the tournament because build knuckle except worse because Sekai doesn't give a shit. So this giant fricking brave custom shows up and it makes the MCs look even more boring than they already were.
Second, Minato is infinitely more likeable than anyone in our main character cast >girl who got any potential development and goals thrown out the window to suck some Sekai dick >Actual loser with zero spirit who made some of the most boring customs seen to man
and >I don't even like gundam or gunpla, I'm just here because the school didn't have karate lol
Maybe I just lack a hotblooded fighting spirit. And Minato is cool as far as I'm concerned. That level of skill and passion deserves respect.
Multi-faceted.
First off, Tryon 3 made a very great impression by being simply cool, everything before him was quite boring since it'd show up and Sekai would punch it. It got stale like the build strike was in danger of being near the end of the tournament because build knuckle except worse because Sekai doesn't give a shit. So this giant fricking brave custom shows up and it makes the MCs look even more boring than they already were.
Second, Minato is infinitely more likeable than anyone in our main character cast >girl who got any potential development and goals thrown out the window to suck some Sekai dick >Actual loser with zero spirit who made some of the most boring customs seen to man
and >I don't even like gundam or gunpla, I'm just here because the school didn't have karate lol
Build Fighters set a really high bar that Try failed to live up to. Hardly any gunpla building, lesser stakes, less interesting characters and interactions, a knockoff, forgettable Meijin, using most of the same soundtrack, and an OVA sequel that was just the finale of Build Fighters 2.0. At leas the Destiny Gundam got a cool showing in it.
If you view literally every opposing team having vastly better motivations than the main 3 as deliberate it becomes a bit more bearable. Rewatching season 1 and realizing it was always cringeworthy also helps. Half of the results are still moronic though.
I still think 2v2 would've been a better format. You can still have the main trio, with Yuuma as support and occasional substitute fighter. Plus you can have various team-ups of solitary characters later on, instead of constantly inventing teams where only one person matters anyway.
My two big problems with this is that Sekai is basically a worst Reiji as MC without a Sei to bounce back with, and the SPOOOOORTS factor, the first series competitions had a fair deal of creativity on it's matches just for the fun of it, now everything is a 3v3 deathmatch that devolves into a 1v1. I would personally say it's the weakest season, I did like the first Divers despite it's flaws.
No. It wasn't as good as the original but still better than the two shows that followed. There are glaring issues like the 3v3 format which was a bad idea but there is still an okay show underneath it.
Also because she used the meme that is an SD Gundam. If your power-up is your SD Gundam turning into a regular one while others just use regular Gundams who then also power-up, you might as not fight.
>Crossbone's anime debut >It's the fricking Full Cloth, with all the broken shit that comes with it >But here the Full Cloth needs particle refills from other gunpla while other units never have this restriction, both before and after >Has to be nerfed to be fought while refueling and barely gets to show off its stuff >Eliminated after
What a waste.
They retconned/corrected it in the gunpla manual. The pilot (forget his name) was abusing some super mode he put into the full cloth that gives a major performance boost but chugs particles really heavily which is why he kept running out so quickly. Still its bullshit though.
You forgot the ending: >What an amazing battle! >Pity you couldn't see it though >But it was AWESOME and EPIC, and you're truly an ACE PILOT! I WISH YOU COULD'VE SEEN THE BATTLE WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE
Then you have the main trio complaining about that guy who mistreats other player's gunpla, just to brutalize the opponent with their overpowered upgrades a few episodes later. Frick Try.
Dude he ran out of particles. We're only just bringing this up now like 20 episodes in and when the team we want to win is backed into a corner but it was always part of the game.
I don't mind martial arts style Gundams, but all Sekai does is spamming special attacks and that's boring.
It's like watching someone playing SF but all he does is spamming Hadouken and Shoryuken without doing any combos.
How about hating on a fighting brain character that doesn't care about gunpla, while using a SUPER SPECIAL original gunpla to spam one-note CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU shit?
Like, it's a very cool idea and I'm all in for more G stuff in Build shows, but instead all it gave me some G "inspired" shounenshit with little-to-no respect to the hobby it's supposed to be about.
Remember in Build Fighters how people got annoyed at how often Reiji's Build Knuckle ended fights later in the series? That's Sekai for the entirety of Try. For everything he does. With a gunpla he doesn't own, that he didn't build, and that he doesn't maintain himself.
Reiji was a part of two person team in which both members were equally important. Kind of. Reiji is basically Sei's Yami Yugi, except Sei plays a bigger role.
You can argue that Try tried to do similar thing with Sekai, Fumina and Yuuma, but in reality it's a Sekaiwank all the time. Fumina is a dumb groupie and Yuuma is only there to say that the show got a Builder and to be the butt of the jokes.
Sekai was quite literally upgrading and maintaining in the episode the OP's screenshot is from. He meets Shia that night and stands over his shoulder giving him pointers. I don't think Reiji did much building except to help with the overnight preparation for the finals.
>Sekai was quite literally upgrading and maintaining in the episode the OP's screenshot is from.
That's an exaggeration. But yeah, he was lucky that Shia was nearby, so that he didn't break Burning while fiddling with it.
That said, leaking info to the rival team isn't commendable at all. He's lucky that Shia wanted his dick.
The thing is Sekai is a surface-level copy of a G Gundam character written and directed by people who don't understand what makes G Gundam cool. In G Gundam the bulk of any given fight is regular punches and kicks, or the opponent having some gimmick that Domon needs to figure out how to overcome. Then when it comes time to do the big special move, it's an event. It's half a minute of buildup when God Finger comes out and it's a buildup designed to get you hyped because it's coming at the physical and emotional climax of the fight.
In Sekai's case what happens is he just jumps straight to doing finishers, all of which come out in under five seconds, and doesn't seem to have any basic attacks. Doing it that way is the worst of both worlds because the special move has no buildup and there's no display of basic skills to get you primed and ready for it. It's why people marked out for the Denial Gundam, which actually did do a lot of basic martial arts between special moves.
I know the Build Burning is based on the Burning because of the name, I never really saw it myself. Which is another problem Try had. In BF you could clearly see your favorite suits under the customs, in Try they're pretty unrecognizable and this was backed up when the Gunpla runners for a lot (not all) of the kits were completely new. These weren't customs of fan favorites, these were all new suits trying to pass as customs.
Personally I think the Burning series gets uglier and uglier the more it gets upgraded. The blue bits clash harshly against the stark white and red, and the Kamiki Burning's sigil on its left shoulder looks like a sticker rather than a painted-on kanji, like the Hyaku-Shiki's does. Shin Burning in Metaverse keeps this same ugliness and I hate it.
That's because the Build Burning isn't based on Burning (God) Gundam, it's based on an OC donut steal gunpla Sei made. He uses Star Burning during the Battlelogue OVA against the gunpla mafia and then he modifies it into the Build Burning. Apparently the production team had no idea God Gundam was called Burning Gundam in the dub, it was a coincidence.
That makes a lot more sense about the name then, I don't know how I never happened to hear that. With the martial arts usage I thought it was intended. Though I think that just further pushes my point, that the fanservice show doesn't have enough fanservice in the mecha, and the new mecha are pretty ugly.
Personally I think the Burning series gets uglier and uglier the more it gets upgraded. The blue bits clash harshly against the stark white and red, and the Kamiki Burning's sigil on its left shoulder looks like a sticker rather than a painted-on kanji, like the Hyaku-Shiki's does. Shin Burning in Metaverse keeps this same ugliness and I hate it.
Personally I think the Burning series gets uglier and uglier the more it gets upgraded. The blue bits clash harshly against the stark white and red, and the Kamiki Burning's sigil on its left shoulder looks like a sticker rather than a painted-on kanji, like the Hyaku-Shiki's does. Shin Burning in Metaverse keeps this same ugliness and I hate it.
Shin Burning is the first Burning that I actually liked. Kanji stickers aside, I really like the feel its armor got, as well as the sword that it inherites from the previous iteration.
I remember people hated Sekai spamming one attack the whole series. Try had a lot less references too which made BF a beloved love letter. Try felt much more like a cashgrab.
People were optimistic as frick in the early few episodes and were practically jizzing themselves at the ending to the first episode. It's only when the actual Tournaments started up where CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU began to become a regular "Get out of jail free" card for fights and people began to realize the 3v3 format was barely being utilized.
I think that's kind of what bugged me the most. It's not like the first series didn't have bullshit and I don't expect the rules of gunpla battle to, for want of a term "MAKE SENSE" but even in a fictional game with no clearly defined rules and mechanics CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU just didn't really make a lot of sense, especially in regards to how it adapted to gunpla battle. It's didn't really feel like Sekai was adapting his martial arts training to anything so much as he just found some cheat code and could suddenly start shooting out hadokens because frick you.
And the thing is I wouldn't even really mind that so much if the character stuff was there to make up for it. BUILD KNUCKLE was it's own kind of bullshit but it still felt like guys like Felleni could push they boys pretty far. You still got the side cast developing itself and you had the actual friendships forming between all the players. And to say nothing of Aila's story arc which was loaded with genuine emotional weight. Build Fighters was always a show to huck model sales but the original actually kind of made the show feel more about friendship and genuine fans.
I recall this too. People were wondering if we have an S2 better than S1. People were obsessing over Fumina's spats and posting sweaty fanart of her on tomboy threads.
Try is the Esports of Gunpla fighting. It's less about the characters, the shared love of the hobby and doesn't celebrate that as people come together. It's about a bunch of try hards who only love the sport when they're winning.
It's more mediocre than bad, I think. It had a really good first episode at least, but the 3v3 wound up hurting them, with too many fights have 2 from each team get knocked right away just to have a 1v1. I think Divers is worse for sure.
I still don't know exactly what I think of Try to be honest. I never hated it but it's probably the worst of the four Build TV series. Divers was just boring but Try had a lot of episodes that outright sucked. Sekai being a shitty shounen protag doesn't help either, and his whole harem of b***hes only have being into him as a defining trait. I thought Fumina was going to fun character and the designated Gundam nerd of the trio but she has no personality whatsoever past the third episode. But the show had a lot of awesome gunpla designs. Tryon 3, GM Cardigan, Winning Gundam, Build Burning, The End Gundam, it's nothing but hits imo.
Eh, most of the originals were pretty bad.
I did like the Star Winning, I guess, but I wish that all of them were actually based on Gunpla they were supposed to represent.
Burning on Shining, Lightning on Re-GZ, Portent on Sakibure and Qan[T], Transient on Exia, The End on Deathscythe Hell, etc. They didn't have to be original shit.
Well, at least Leopard da Vinci became the base for GM/GM and GBN Guard Frame, which are excellent.
But Divers did handle all those aspects better than Try, even if it gone in a different direction than Fighters.
Basically, MMO stuff can be fun in it's own way. See Gundam Breaker.
Well, it's not Build FIGHTERS.
I don't think that removing Build from the name would help and original cast was pretty much solved back in the first show, so there would always be the new gen of kids (or an army of new rivals, I guess).
No Reiji and Aila too, unless they would expand the isekai elements.
Honestly no, but it does have a lot of flaws that drag it down as a follow-up to the first Build Fighters
For one, Sekai being a newbie to Gundam wasn't a bad idea, but they don't do much with this. I'm not saying that they need to have him learning everything about the various series (But him being shown G Gundam and taking a liking to it would have been something I would do, given who his Master is) but being taught the basics of building and learning to do it himself over the course of the series would have been better.
The Build Burning Gundam being made by Sei was a cheap way to compensate for Sekai's lack of building hurt the series more. They had to invent a new setting where damage wasn't real because no one could build at that level and then have replacement parts conveniently delivered from Sei. They instead should have had it built for Sekai by Fumina and have him eventually upgrade it to Try Burning after he learns to do it himself.
Theres a number of ways that it could have been improved.
I think the better way to have Sei's influence would have been to have Sei personally make the transluscent right hand of the Burning. Maybe he melted down a bunch of beam sabers then painstakingly sculpted them into the shape of the burning finger. This would address your point of 'not being able to be repaired by Sei' because the hand is just one solid piece of transluscent plastic (which wouldn't crack in battle) rather than a whole unit. But it would still give Sekai that passed torch that Sei made for his buddy he misses. Being just a hand then would let Sekai and Fumina build around it to create Sekai his own Gundam that is carrying a piece of Sei with it rather than Sekai lucking into a God tier gunpla.
Then, for the finals, once Yuuma tells Sei about the fist Sekai found, Sei can send Sekai the left hand rather than a whole box of replacement parts. So while the Burning remains mostly Sekai's, its main weapon can be built off of Sei's custom hands. This would still give Sekai an edge but would not just be a 'lmao I did all the work for you' loot crate.
>basics of building and learning to do it himself over the course of the series would have been better.
There is an attempt at that at various points of the show, they just aren't prevalent enough.
Not as good as S1. Personally I'd rather Fumina be the MC than Sekai. She's much closer to Sei than Yuuma. Her starting point is barely winning anything before this talented redhead comes along. She takes the star prefix and has by far the more creative gunpla compared to Yuuna. She even has the sparkly eyes Sei does.
But if Sekai is kept as the MC, he should've learned more Gundam. In S1, Sei started off already knowing all about Gundam while Reiji never learns Gundam outside battling. Having a the Reiji substitute learn Gundam outside just battling would've set him apart in a unique way.
I could see a doubles format still working if they want to increase the number of Gunpla on the field, and the technical Yuuma fits just as well as a rival outside the team (compared to the more outgoing Fumina/Sekai pair) as he is as a foil in Team Try.
The main character influence in Try can only be described as the creative crew watching S1 and then deciding that Reiji needed to have his presence amped up while Sei's gets reduced, for some reason.
Bro that wasn't even me.
Either way. massive difference between the culture now and 9 years ago(Fricking christ Try was 9 years ago someone please shoot me).
Way too many hated Try ever since they milked the MS Girl concept too much, not to mention the whole joke that turned it into a dumpster fire was shipping wars. The porn was the only salvageable part, though.
On a different note, has anyone tried to fit the Figure-rise Standard Fumina's jacket onto the Winning Fumina without her armor? I have an idea concerning them.
Try sucks because the Sunrise Studio changed Directors and most of the staff for Season 2. The original staff left to do other project because they were only offered a single season contract to create an anime.
Build Fighters Season 1 was Directed by Masami Obari. A veteran anime Director who had been working in anime since the 1980s. Working on stuff like Fatal Fury the movie, Gravion, lots of other stuff, etc.
The Studio didn't realize Build Fighters Season 1 would be a massive hit, and didn't lock down the original team with multi-season contracts. Sunrise desperately wanted to pushed out a new Build Season asap and rushed it. They scrambled to find a replacement Director and staff. So they hired a relatively inexperienced director named Shinya Watada. His previous experience was directing 1 episode of Sword Art Online, and a few episodes of an idol anime called "Love Live! School Idol Project" (I think this explains the story issues of Try).
Masami Obari did return to create and direct Gundam Build Fighters Battalogue which brought back the original cast of Season 1 of Build.
>le obari
He storyboarded several scenes but that's it. GBF was directed by Nagasaki Kenji who was then hired by shonen jump to adapt boku no hero and I never heard of him again. Most of the animation credit should go to sei jun kim (credited as main mecha animator in the opening)
I was only mad because I wanted them to continue the original build fighters. But it was fine I guess. I have no idea what the frick is anything after Try though.
Seriously the show would have been so much better if they did what Pokemon did, and had various evil Gunpla organizations running around like Team Rocket. Imagine stopping crime with Gunpla battles. Or robbing banks with Gunpla battles. Instead we got MMO shit.
I think even the crazy MMO virus was a step up because it was at least something. Sentient AI life being born out of a video game that our heroes need to defend? Okay cool. I can grok that. Try was just >YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH I LIKE WINNING!!
>Try was just
I LIKE WINNING!!
I agree to an extent. I just disagree with the MMO aspect. I feel that The problem is that the MMO stuff is that it's digital. Its so far removed from Gunpla building. There are no stakes. I don't want to watch Sword Art Online with a Gundam skin.
Season 2 should have been like YuGiOh. Characters explore their world more beyond the arena with portable duel disks. And anytime there is a conflict they settle it with Gunpla battles. Remember the Rare Hunters in YuGiOh? A shady organization that targets players and steals their rare cards using underhanded tactics and cheating to win. Now imagine Rare "Gunpla" hunters. People who use Sei's particle hax to steal rare Gunpla that players spend a ton of time building. Imagine spending weeks building the perfect a Master Grade Gunpla to duel at a local tournament. Then you get ambushed on your way to your local tournament and losing it in a Gunpla duel. It feels more real than digital MMO Stuff in Build Divers.
>There are no stakes.
But there were stakes though. They might not have been YOU BROKE MY MODEL stakes, but there was shit happening that had a drastic effect on the world going on. You had the hacker trying to destroy the game entirely with his virus and then that had an effect on the AI Life they were trying to protect. >YuGiOh
Oh shut up.
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Anonymous
You would be right...except the whole point of the show is to be an absolute shameless Toy commercial to sell Gunpla kits. It's not a typical Gundam show. The focus is on the models.
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Anonymous
>the whole point of the show is to be an absolute shameless Toy commercial to sell Gunpla kits. It's not a typical Gundam show. The focus is on the models.
uh
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Anonymous
>the whole point of the show is to be an absolute shameless Toy commercial to sell Gunpla kits. It's not a typical Gundam show. The focus is on the models.
This is so fricking funny, it got to be on the purpose, right?
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>This is so fricking funny, it got to be on the purpose, right?
Bandai Sunrise pretty much took their staff and said, "We have some spare change jingling in our pockets. Go make an ONA promoting Gunpla. Here's barely enough money to do it, but we don't expect much from your team. Just make something good enough to be filler. Bye."
(ONA = Original Net Animation. Cheapest anime possible to make. Typically very low standards)
Build Season 1 Director: "Alright. Bet. I got some ideas."
>*makes the most shameless in your face toy commercial in Gundam history*
Who is the supposed e-girl in Try? That girl on the rival team that gets added to the MC's harem for no reason?
I feel like Fumina and Gyanko are far more popular than her
Fights were really boring with 3vs3 type of combat. Fumina was only good thing that made me want to finish it. Music was pretty much only good thing about Try.
>So Bandai hired a noob director for Build S2 who had only done an anime about being in an online gaming MMO. New Director hated the irl Gunpla aspects and wanted to make it about an MMO. That's what he did. Also The noob director knows how lucky he is to have his Rolex and has basically camped the position as head director of making Build anime for Bandai. He hasn't left to do any other non Bandai projects. He just makes Build anime. He's clinging onto this position until he dies. Expect build Fighters to be more online MMO shit for a long time. Original Director and writing team who made Build S1 fun are long gone.
A shame. I wish I could go check out the other timeline where the original director got to make S2 and onwards to see what would have been different.
No. It had a local tourney then it was the fricking world championship. The scale is totally moronic. You get sei who couldn't a literal child from his streets to the win the world series.
Now try had the local tourney, then they got qualified to U-19 japan. You can see the progression way easier and how big it was for them, in the final episode they fight in the locals again, showing how they achieve more by playing more, but even then there is a ceiling to their own abilities.
Assimilation is plavsky bullshit but they don't waste time on it, it exist and they use it, that is it. You dont get episodes of someone investigating it or s villain using plavsky bullshit to meddle with the competition.
The only time it is relevant is on the special, that is it.
Imagine if BF didnt had wasted time on exploring such a shitty concept and got into more fights of other characters instead of reiji and sei
Other way around. BF should've been more of plavsky particle investigation, Gunpla Mafia shenanigans and street orphans made into "Cyber-Newtypes" for Gunpla Fights. Tournaments are boring and Try proves it by playing it straight with no gimmicks.
>everyone liked Fumina and Gyanko >team battles were an interesting addition >Build Burning busting out of the Dom was amazing >halfway through Glasses and Fumina became background support characters for Sekai to JIGENHAORYUU and oneshot his opponents >final battle was a fricking DBZ energy clash while everyone sits at the side commenting
Try dropped the ball so hard it wasn't even funny in a trainwreck sense. At least Bandai saw how popular Fumina was and pumped out a ton of merch.
Honestly the worst part was that the Gunpla that Adou had in the backstory was far cooler than the one he used in the present. All of the Try designs had the problem that they were almost all completely original designs, when part of the charm of the original show was that the characters used customs and remixes of old beloved suits. I assume it negatively affected sales too, since the Divers shows went back to almost everyone using customs of existing suits.
It's very cost effective too, as the engineering can be reused to make new kits for some of the older MSes, like it happened with Gouf, Dom, R-Jarja, Galbaldy, Death Beast, Daughtress, etc. Still waiting for the Kapool and WaDom kits btw
Its not the worst thing ever but it feels like it really doesn't want to be what it's set up to be. Supposed to be a team based spinoff, have a showboating main character that does all the work for most fights. Main heroine is supposed to be a competition loving tomboy. Immediately gets sidelined in the competition, and her crush on the MC ends up turning her into a girly airhead. You forget she was even introduced as a tomboy.
Third wheel is supposed to be the "cool" type. Isn't really very cool or effective. Is bullied relentlessly by two rivals who have more presence than him.
Several rivals are set up just like in the first build fighters. Few of them really get to shine and most become audience members after their initial fights. The actual rival for the final battle is a non character with no fan following.
Show goes out of its way to set up fights displaying the limitations of the games particle system and shows you need to work around it in clever ways...
Only to show that the main character and his rival don't seem to have to adhere to these limitations at all.
It's odd to me that in the show Fumina was completely embarrassed and furious when the Super Fumina gunpla was shown at the end, but then Bandai shows Fumina making these suggestive poses on their merchandise. Weird personality change.
It wasn't being exposed that bothered her, it's that Minato was basically hijacking her brand. It's the same deal as with broads who complain about sexy girls in video games but turn around and claim being a sex worker is empowering.
Build Fighters is just a really fun celebration of Gundam. It's a decent show in it's own right, but the real draw is all the fanservice, cameos, and the energy of everyone on the dev team just really, really liking Gundam. If you don't see the appeal of our hero Gundams fighting a Zaku that's fifty times their size because it's a RG or whatever it is, then you might just not know how to have fun.
And Re:RISE is just straight up really good. For the first half, at least.
Yeah, Try was terrible. Had none of the energy and soul Fighters did, and while it did have some points it's favor it didn't dwell on any of them. Shia>Fumina. The beach episode movie was surprisingly good, though.
I was so sure her introduction was going to herald the turning point of show. The real story begins now, revolving around this mysterious girl in the moonlight. But nope, she's just some frick that doesn't really matter and nobody really cares about.
You're right that she's great, though.
>Shia>Fumina.
Based. >The beach episode movie was surprisingly good, though.
Eh.
It had some good points, like showing MILF Aila and having some nice customs (compared to original show).
But then it also kinda ruined Gyanko and Scramble Gundam was shit.
Surprisingly good in this context doesn't actually mean that great. It Tried to recapture some of the energy S1 had and succeeded to an extent, a bunch of plavsky particle nonsense and the final boss just spamming superweapons, and some of the character bits and gags were fun, but it's still Try. >"""Eeeeek!! A g-g-ghost!!""" >"Eek. A ghost."
>Shia>Fumina.
Based. >The beach episode movie was surprisingly good, though.
Eh.
It had some good points, like showing MILF Aila and having some nice customs (compared to original show).
But then it also kinda ruined Gyanko and Scramble Gundam was shit.
Not everyone is a fat appreciator.
And some that are prefer to put some work into fattening the slim girl themselves making Fumina or Shia better target.
Both seasons of Divers are better than Try. S2 is just a step below GBF, in part because it cured the blue balls that series left us with by only giving us a glimpse of Reiji's isekai. Try failed because it defaulted to the tired hot-blooded dumbass protag and school setting.
Sekai and Fumina were great. Everything else was bland or awful. I can't remember a single opponent from the entire series except the Tryon 3 guy (and not even his teammates).
This except Fumina was bland and Sekai was awful. >I can't remember a single opponent from the entire series except the Tryon 3 guy (and not even his teammates).
Gyanko, that guy with straight-built Destiny from the little brother and not-Sleggar were alright.
If they were in a show that treated their own cast better they'd be fan favourites, but it was Try, so they were basically dropped around the second half.
Not all of them. Just some from the first half of the show, while everyone from the second half was shit. SD team and Crossbone guy were among the worst, while main rivals were just kinda boring.
The only one who had potential is the edgy rival from Sekai's martial arts group, but all we got is a funny car ride scene out of it.
Personally, I find it all sad rather than hilarious. Try didn't have to be shit. They almost did some things correctly.
Dunno for the others, but I’ve been bouncing around the idea of a GM-02 - a GM II with the nuke bazooka off the GP-02 and a reckless disregard for minimum safe distance.
There just wasn't really any reason to want to root for the main team. You had characters with better motivations like snap build kun for starters but even that aside the main team just didn't have any rivalry that you wanted to see them overcome in a meaningful way. You really only get the sense that the main group was having fun when they were winning and when that didn't happen the flipped the board.
B-but Fumina and Yuuma had some promise as kids. A-and Yuuma had to face the guy who traumatized him again head-on.
The more I think about all this shit, the more I hate Try.
>Fumina's motivation is she saw lady kawaguchi fight before she was lady kawaguchi >this subplot goes literally nowhere during the show >even set up a fight with lady kawaguchi >still do nothing with it other than have her get fricking bodied and accept her support role
>accept her support role
The whole point of the Lady Kawaguchi fight was teaching Fumina that she'd overspecialized into support and it was actually dragging the party down. That's why the Star Winning swapped from being a support unit into an all-purpose machine, and also one of the very few legitimately creative designs in the entire show.
The entire Lady Kawaguchi deal was kinda trash, honestly. Like, the show didn't give a single reason to believe that she's a good builder or fighter and it was such a random thing to introduce.
The only reason she existed is to give Fumina (and Shia) someone to idolize, when there was no real reason to do that. Perhaps if it was a tournament in which she could participate it would be interesting to have her as an opponent or something, but there was no way for that to happen.
Which is a shame, original BF was fun with adult participants.
>accept her support role
The whole point of the Lady Kawaguchi fight was teaching Fumina that she'd overspecialized into support and it was actually dragging the party down. That's why the Star Winning swapped from being a support unit into an all-purpose machine, and also one of the very few legitimately creative designs in the entire show.
This is true though. And I kinda love Star Winning.
There are probably more context for her in the Amazing Ready manga (emphasis on probably, I can't read it myself), but in the actual show she really came out of nowhere.
Yeah, I was going to mention Meijin manga too, but making a side story character important without proper introduction is a weird choice. Not to mention I'm not sure if she came from there or was added in after seeing notes from Try production team.
They really should've gone that route and did a more straightforward Sekai/Shia ship, both as a means of tying him to a rival team and making them a combo of people who compliment each other well (a genius fighter and a genius builder). Gyanko can go make out with Shimon or whatever.
Sure, that would be a rethread of the OG Build Fighters in a lot of ways, but more importantly, it would be way better than what we got. Not to mention that Yuuma's crush on Sekai's sister was stupid. As is, at least.
She had a cool Gunpla race episode, but otherwise, might as well not exist.
And that's after being set-up as Kirara of the show. As well as supposedly sexy MC's relative. Or something.
Every AU including and after Seed has been dog shit tailored to the brain dead whales that would buy an anal vibrator so long as it's in RX-78-2 colors.
Kuroda is and always has been a fricking hack. The only times he puts out semi-decent stuff like Gundam 00 is when the director keeps him on such a short leach he's holding the collar.
Case in point, go check out the Panzer Dragoon OVA, which he also wrote. I fricking dare you.
My biggest problem with Try is that it sets up all these connections with the original Fighters and does frick all with any of them. Like oh, Yuuma is the brother of China, the Build Burning was built by Sei, Sekai keeps getting compared Reiji. Do these mean anything? Does it set up cool callbacks or cameos? Nope. China barely appears, the only shot of adult Sei is his fricking mouth, and the only allusion to Reiji is in the ova. You can cut out most of the references to the original Fighters and nothing about Try would really change.
Honestly, Re:Rise makes me even more pissed about Try because it did all that shit right. It follows up on lingering plot points from Divers. It creates connections between the casts of both Divers and Re:Rise in ways that actually informs more about those characters. It teases the main cast of Divers and actually has them show up.
>Fighters
Is for nerds and kids >Try
Is for Try's production committiee and hentai artists >Divers
Is for kids and nerds >Rerise
Is for teens
So overall, not really.
>GBF was sorta juvenile but offset by an earnest loveletter to the franchise >GBF Try was a shallow cash-in sequel that was hella juvenile from lazy writing >Divers was overtly aimed at a young audience >Re:Rise was aimed at early teens and leaned into depression themes
So... kinda yes but the last one pulled back. Unless you just want to focus on LMAO FURRIES.
Yeah. Should have just been a girl trying to win and maybe getting her former best friend out of his no gunpla battle funk. Sekai was so disconnected from the rest they had to bring Shia and her awful brother in.
That reference was max randumb. All it did is made me question whether they actually forced Sekai to watch the show or not, but seeing how he remained secondary it's more likely that he just heard the song while hanging out with them.
Which is only confirms again that Try is terrible.
Their vocal was awful, yes
All the Build shows after the original Build Fighters? Yes, they are all bad.
The OG Build Fighters and Gunpla Builders Beginning G are the only good ones.
>the only good ones.
Wrong. There are none. Even the first Build Fighters and Gunpla Builders were trash.
This. I really don't see the appeal of these shows unless you are underage
Build Fighters is just a really fun celebration of Gundam. It's a decent show in it's own right, but the real draw is all the fanservice, cameos, and the energy of everyone on the dev team just really, really liking Gundam. If you don't see the appeal of our hero Gundams fighting a Zaku that's fifty times their size because it's a RG or whatever it is, then you might just not know how to have fun.
And Re:RISE is just straight up really good. For the first half, at least.
How does it feel being a boring adult with no sense of wonder?
man, Re-Rise was pretty good
Yes, frick you.
yes
It should have been about Tryon 3. It's even in the name
>Tryon 3
This was the Renato Brothers moment of Try, albeit in the absolute opposite direction.
I just do not get the appeal of this thing.
Lion on the chest for starters.
It (and the Try Zeta from the Try Age arcade games) is a homage to the Braves franchise.
Maybe I just lack a hotblooded fighting spirit. And Minato is cool as far as I'm concerned. That level of skill and passion deserves respect.
Allow me to make a normalgay-tier suggestion: watch Gurren Lagann.
Or, if you don't mind some light kid show elements, watch GaoGaiGar.
>watch Gurren Lagann.
Don't, it's overrated.
Hence a normalgay-tier suggestion.
It got unusually popular for a good reason. Like, it might be overrated, but it's still good somewhat.
Same, honestly. I never got into the Brave series so this did nothing for me. It just felt like it deviated from the ZZ to an absurd degree.
Multi-faceted.
First off, Tryon 3 made a very great impression by being simply cool, everything before him was quite boring since it'd show up and Sekai would punch it. It got stale like the build strike was in danger of being near the end of the tournament because build knuckle except worse because Sekai doesn't give a shit. So this giant fricking brave custom shows up and it makes the MCs look even more boring than they already were.
Second, Minato is infinitely more likeable than anyone in our main character cast
>girl who got any potential development and goals thrown out the window to suck some Sekai dick
>Actual loser with zero spirit who made some of the most boring customs seen to man
and
>I don't even like gundam or gunpla, I'm just here because the school didn't have karate lol
Build Fighters set a really high bar that Try failed to live up to. Hardly any gunpla building, lesser stakes, less interesting characters and interactions, a knockoff, forgettable Meijin, using most of the same soundtrack, and an OVA sequel that was just the finale of Build Fighters 2.0. At leas the Destiny Gundam got a cool showing in it.
That's why I liked Shia. Most of her scenes involved gunpla building. The rest of them was about being an absolute minx.
You forgot about the knockoff, forgettable Reiji.
Reiji's battle with Aila is probably the highlight of the series for me.
If you view literally every opposing team having vastly better motivations than the main 3 as deliberate it becomes a bit more bearable. Rewatching season 1 and realizing it was always cringeworthy also helps. Half of the results are still moronic though.
I still think 2v2 would've been a better format. You can still have the main trio, with Yuuma as support and occasional substitute fighter. Plus you can have various team-ups of solitary characters later on, instead of constantly inventing teams where only one person matters anyway.
I would have liked more mixed matches.
>1v1, 2v2, 3v3
Would have changed up the fighting styles a lot and kept the weekly battles more interesting.
I like Fumina's breasts and the doujin it brings, so it can't be that bad
My two big problems with this is that Sekai is basically a worst Reiji as MC without a Sei to bounce back with, and the SPOOOOORTS factor, the first series competitions had a fair deal of creativity on it's matches just for the fun of it, now everything is a 3v3 deathmatch that devolves into a 1v1. I would personally say it's the weakest season, I did like the first Divers despite it's flaws.
Oh hey, Tamagoro, nice.
Why am I supposed to hate Try?
The porn was good, I guess.
when you make a show that stands outt only for its resident pedo cumbait and some ZZ references, than you have definitely fricked things up
No. It wasn't as good as the original but still better than the two shows that followed. There are glaring issues like the 3v3 format which was a bad idea but there is still an okay show underneath it.
I only hated how badly they treated Fumina in Try. Made her useless in battles then cucked her
Fumina deserved to be a shitter since in the latter half she cared more about romance shit than Gunpla battling
Who doesn't like shota dick more than gunpla?
Is it really shota dick when she's just a year older?
It's a spiritual thing. Even an indian girl younger than you can be your mother
Also because she used the meme that is an SD Gundam. If your power-up is your SD Gundam turning into a regular one while others just use regular Gundams who then also power-up, you might as not fight.
>Crossbone's anime debut
>It's the fricking Full Cloth, with all the broken shit that comes with it
>But here the Full Cloth needs particle refills from other gunpla while other units never have this restriction, both before and after
>Has to be nerfed to be fought while refueling and barely gets to show off its stuff
>Eliminated after
What a waste.
They retconned/corrected it in the gunpla manual. The pilot (forget his name) was abusing some super mode he put into the full cloth that gives a major performance boost but chugs particles really heavily which is why he kept running out so quickly. Still its bullshit though.
You forgot the ending:
>What an amazing battle!
>Pity you couldn't see it though
>But it was AWESOME and EPIC, and you're truly an ACE PILOT! I WISH YOU COULD'VE SEEN THE BATTLE WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE
Then you have the main trio complaining about that guy who mistreats other player's gunpla, just to brutalize the opponent with their overpowered upgrades a few episodes later. Frick Try.
Dude he ran out of particles. We're only just bringing this up now like 20 episodes in and when the team we want to win is backed into a corner but it was always part of the game.
No, it was even worse.
It's better than seed
Only destiny, the original SEED is actually good.
The beginning of Destiny mogs all of Seed.
It gave us best girl so it can be all bad.
I don't remember the hatred for Try when it was airing so its weird ppl hate on it now.
There were a lot of people hated on a g gundam style character using a g gundam inspired custom gunpla to do g gundam style moves.
I liked it for that. I can understand people not liking it compared to how the previous show was done though.
I don't mind martial arts style Gundams, but all Sekai does is spamming special attacks and that's boring.
It's like watching someone playing SF but all he does is spamming Hadouken and Shoryuken without doing any combos.
How about hating on a fighting brain character that doesn't care about gunpla, while using a SUPER SPECIAL original gunpla to spam one-note CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU shit?
Like, it's a very cool idea and I'm all in for more G stuff in Build shows, but instead all it gave me some G "inspired" shounenshit with little-to-no respect to the hobby it's supposed to be about.
Remember in Build Fighters how people got annoyed at how often Reiji's Build Knuckle ended fights later in the series? That's Sekai for the entirety of Try. For everything he does. With a gunpla he doesn't own, that he didn't build, and that he doesn't maintain himself.
>With a gunpla he doesn't own, that he didn't build, and that he doesn't maintain himself.
Just like Reiji
Reiji was a part of two person team in which both members were equally important. Kind of. Reiji is basically Sei's Yami Yugi, except Sei plays a bigger role.
You can argue that Try tried to do similar thing with Sekai, Fumina and Yuuma, but in reality it's a Sekaiwank all the time. Fumina is a dumb groupie and Yuuma is only there to say that the show got a Builder and to be the butt of the jokes.
Sei and Reiji are a classic Gundam combo, mechanic and pilot.
Sekai was quite literally upgrading and maintaining in the episode the OP's screenshot is from. He meets Shia that night and stands over his shoulder giving him pointers. I don't think Reiji did much building except to help with the overnight preparation for the finals.
>Sekai was quite literally upgrading and maintaining in the episode the OP's screenshot is from.
That's an exaggeration. But yeah, he was lucky that Shia was nearby, so that he didn't break Burning while fiddling with it.
That said, leaking info to the rival team isn't commendable at all. He's lucky that Shia wanted his dick.
The thing is Sekai is a surface-level copy of a G Gundam character written and directed by people who don't understand what makes G Gundam cool. In G Gundam the bulk of any given fight is regular punches and kicks, or the opponent having some gimmick that Domon needs to figure out how to overcome. Then when it comes time to do the big special move, it's an event. It's half a minute of buildup when God Finger comes out and it's a buildup designed to get you hyped because it's coming at the physical and emotional climax of the fight.
In Sekai's case what happens is he just jumps straight to doing finishers, all of which come out in under five seconds, and doesn't seem to have any basic attacks. Doing it that way is the worst of both worlds because the special move has no buildup and there's no display of basic skills to get you primed and ready for it. It's why people marked out for the Denial Gundam, which actually did do a lot of basic martial arts between special moves.
I know the Build Burning is based on the Burning because of the name, I never really saw it myself. Which is another problem Try had. In BF you could clearly see your favorite suits under the customs, in Try they're pretty unrecognizable and this was backed up when the Gunpla runners for a lot (not all) of the kits were completely new. These weren't customs of fan favorites, these were all new suits trying to pass as customs.
Personally I think the Burning series gets uglier and uglier the more it gets upgraded. The blue bits clash harshly against the stark white and red, and the Kamiki Burning's sigil on its left shoulder looks like a sticker rather than a painted-on kanji, like the Hyaku-Shiki's does. Shin Burning in Metaverse keeps this same ugliness and I hate it.
That's because the Build Burning isn't based on Burning (God) Gundam, it's based on an OC donut steal gunpla Sei made. He uses Star Burning during the Battlelogue OVA against the gunpla mafia and then he modifies it into the Build Burning. Apparently the production team had no idea God Gundam was called Burning Gundam in the dub, it was a coincidence.
That makes a lot more sense about the name then, I don't know how I never happened to hear that. With the martial arts usage I thought it was intended. Though I think that just further pushes my point, that the fanservice show doesn't have enough fanservice in the mecha, and the new mecha are pretty ugly.
I agree, it definitely gets uglier.
It's not based on the God Gundam though.
Shin Burning is the first Burning that I actually liked. Kanji stickers aside, I really like the feel its armor got, as well as the sword that it inherites from the previous iteration.
I remember people hated Sekai spamming one attack the whole series. Try had a lot less references too which made BF a beloved love letter. Try felt much more like a cashgrab.
You're full of shit.
People were optimistic as frick in the early few episodes and were practically jizzing themselves at the ending to the first episode. It's only when the actual Tournaments started up where CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU began to become a regular "Get out of jail free" card for fights and people began to realize the 3v3 format was barely being utilized.
I think that's kind of what bugged me the most. It's not like the first series didn't have bullshit and I don't expect the rules of gunpla battle to, for want of a term "MAKE SENSE" but even in a fictional game with no clearly defined rules and mechanics CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU just didn't really make a lot of sense, especially in regards to how it adapted to gunpla battle. It's didn't really feel like Sekai was adapting his martial arts training to anything so much as he just found some cheat code and could suddenly start shooting out hadokens because frick you.
And the thing is I wouldn't even really mind that so much if the character stuff was there to make up for it. BUILD KNUCKLE was it's own kind of bullshit but it still felt like guys like Felleni could push they boys pretty far. You still got the side cast developing itself and you had the actual friendships forming between all the players. And to say nothing of Aila's story arc which was loaded with genuine emotional weight. Build Fighters was always a show to huck model sales but the original actually kind of made the show feel more about friendship and genuine fans.
I recall this too. People were wondering if we have an S2 better than S1. People were obsessing over Fumina's spats and posting sweaty fanart of her on tomboy threads.
Try is the Esports of Gunpla fighting. It's less about the characters, the shared love of the hobby and doesn't celebrate that as people come together. It's about a bunch of try hards who only love the sport when they're winning.
Yeah. There was definitely a lot more min-maxing going on in Try. Thanks Sei, you ruined the fun.
i liked the porn
Try is so much better than bf, ignore anyone who says otherwise,
It's more mediocre than bad, I think. It had a really good first episode at least, but the 3v3 wound up hurting them, with too many fights have 2 from each team get knocked right away just to have a 1v1. I think Divers is worse for sure.
I still don't know exactly what I think of Try to be honest. I never hated it but it's probably the worst of the four Build TV series. Divers was just boring but Try had a lot of episodes that outright sucked. Sekai being a shitty shounen protag doesn't help either, and his whole harem of b***hes only have being into him as a defining trait. I thought Fumina was going to fun character and the designated Gundam nerd of the trio but she has no personality whatsoever past the third episode. But the show had a lot of awesome gunpla designs. Tryon 3, GM Cardigan, Winning Gundam, Build Burning, The End Gundam, it's nothing but hits imo.
Eh, most of the originals were pretty bad.
I did like the Star Winning, I guess, but I wish that all of them were actually based on Gunpla they were supposed to represent.
Burning on Shining, Lightning on Re-GZ, Portent on Sakibure and Qan[T], Transient on Exia, The End on Deathscythe Hell, etc. They didn't have to be original shit.
Well, at least Leopard da Vinci became the base for GM/GM and GBN Guard Frame, which are excellent.
But Divers did handle all those aspects better than Try, even if it gone in a different direction than Fighters.
Basically, MMO stuff can be fun in it's own way. See Gundam Breaker.
Then it should have been it's own seperate Gundam MMO series. Not Build.
Build should have remained it's own show using Gunpla to fight in holographic duels with the original cast.
Well, it's not Build FIGHTERS.
I don't think that removing Build from the name would help and original cast was pretty much solved back in the first show, so there would always be the new gen of kids (or an army of new rivals, I guess).
No Reiji and Aila too, unless they would expand the isekai elements.
Fumina is the ideal girlfriend.
Honestly no, but it does have a lot of flaws that drag it down as a follow-up to the first Build Fighters
For one, Sekai being a newbie to Gundam wasn't a bad idea, but they don't do much with this. I'm not saying that they need to have him learning everything about the various series (But him being shown G Gundam and taking a liking to it would have been something I would do, given who his Master is) but being taught the basics of building and learning to do it himself over the course of the series would have been better.
The Build Burning Gundam being made by Sei was a cheap way to compensate for Sekai's lack of building hurt the series more. They had to invent a new setting where damage wasn't real because no one could build at that level and then have replacement parts conveniently delivered from Sei. They instead should have had it built for Sekai by Fumina and have him eventually upgrade it to Try Burning after he learns to do it himself.
Theres a number of ways that it could have been improved.
I think the better way to have Sei's influence would have been to have Sei personally make the transluscent right hand of the Burning. Maybe he melted down a bunch of beam sabers then painstakingly sculpted them into the shape of the burning finger. This would address your point of 'not being able to be repaired by Sei' because the hand is just one solid piece of transluscent plastic (which wouldn't crack in battle) rather than a whole unit. But it would still give Sekai that passed torch that Sei made for his buddy he misses. Being just a hand then would let Sekai and Fumina build around it to create Sekai his own Gundam that is carrying a piece of Sei with it rather than Sekai lucking into a God tier gunpla.
Then, for the finals, once Yuuma tells Sei about the fist Sekai found, Sei can send Sekai the left hand rather than a whole box of replacement parts. So while the Burning remains mostly Sekai's, its main weapon can be built off of Sei's custom hands. This would still give Sekai an edge but would not just be a 'lmao I did all the work for you' loot crate.
>basics of building and learning to do it himself over the course of the series would have been better.
There is an attempt at that at various points of the show, they just aren't prevalent enough.
Only good for Gyanko and Fumina porn
And the Dom scene.
I liked Try a lot more than Divers. After Try I completely bailed.
Needs more oyakodon.
>encouraging her daughter to have sex with her junior club member on a tropical resort island
Second best Build Fighter mom.
Not as good as S1. Personally I'd rather Fumina be the MC than Sekai. She's much closer to Sei than Yuuma. Her starting point is barely winning anything before this talented redhead comes along. She takes the star prefix and has by far the more creative gunpla compared to Yuuna. She even has the sparkly eyes Sei does.
But if Sekai is kept as the MC, he should've learned more Gundam. In S1, Sei started off already knowing all about Gundam while Reiji never learns Gundam outside battling. Having a the Reiji substitute learn Gundam outside just battling would've set him apart in a unique way.
I could see a doubles format still working if they want to increase the number of Gunpla on the field, and the technical Yuuma fits just as well as a rival outside the team (compared to the more outgoing Fumina/Sekai pair) as he is as a foil in Team Try.
The main character influence in Try can only be described as the creative crew watching S1 and then deciding that Reiji needed to have his presence amped up while Sei's gets reduced, for some reason.
That was never going to happen because Japan thinks girls are icky and gross.
>That was never going to happen
>posts the most benched gundam protag to date
>changing your goalpost
Bro that wasn't even me.
Either way. massive difference between the culture now and 9 years ago(Fricking christ Try was 9 years ago someone please shoot me).
Way too many hated Try ever since they milked the MS Girl concept too much, not to mention the whole joke that turned it into a dumpster fire was shipping wars. The porn was the only salvageable part, though.
On a different note, has anyone tried to fit the Figure-rise Standard Fumina's jacket onto the Winning Fumina without her armor? I have an idea concerning them.
Isn't there a Fumina gunpla on the Metaverse poster? They will probably remake it based on the Figure-rise line, just wait for that.
Try sucks because the Sunrise Studio changed Directors and most of the staff for Season 2. The original staff left to do other project because they were only offered a single season contract to create an anime.
Build Fighters Season 1 was Directed by Masami Obari. A veteran anime Director who had been working in anime since the 1980s. Working on stuff like Fatal Fury the movie, Gravion, lots of other stuff, etc.
The Studio didn't realize Build Fighters Season 1 would be a massive hit, and didn't lock down the original team with multi-season contracts. Sunrise desperately wanted to pushed out a new Build Season asap and rushed it. They scrambled to find a replacement Director and staff. So they hired a relatively inexperienced director named Shinya Watada. His previous experience was directing 1 episode of Sword Art Online, and a few episodes of an idol anime called "Love Live! School Idol Project" (I think this explains the story issues of Try).
Masami Obari did return to create and direct Gundam Build Fighters Battalogue which brought back the original cast of Season 1 of Build.
>le obari
He storyboarded several scenes but that's it. GBF was directed by Nagasaki Kenji who was then hired by shonen jump to adapt boku no hero and I never heard of him again. Most of the animation credit should go to sei jun kim (credited as main mecha animator in the opening)
No.
It gave us MILF Aila and that's about it, the positives end there.
I was only mad because I wanted them to continue the original build fighters. But it was fine I guess. I have no idea what the frick is anything after Try though.
>Aliens playing gunpla? Gunpla mafia? Should we follow any of that? NO FRICK YOU WE GOT GUNPLA EVO!
Seriously the show would have been so much better if they did what Pokemon did, and had various evil Gunpla organizations running around like Team Rocket. Imagine stopping crime with Gunpla battles. Or robbing banks with Gunpla battles. Instead we got MMO shit.
I think even the crazy MMO virus was a step up because it was at least something. Sentient AI life being born out of a video game that our heroes need to defend? Okay cool. I can grok that. Try was just
>YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH I LIKE WINNING!!
>Try was just
I LIKE WINNING!!
I agree to an extent. I just disagree with the MMO aspect. I feel that The problem is that the MMO stuff is that it's digital. Its so far removed from Gunpla building. There are no stakes. I don't want to watch Sword Art Online with a Gundam skin.
Season 2 should have been like YuGiOh. Characters explore their world more beyond the arena with portable duel disks. And anytime there is a conflict they settle it with Gunpla battles. Remember the Rare Hunters in YuGiOh? A shady organization that targets players and steals their rare cards using underhanded tactics and cheating to win. Now imagine Rare "Gunpla" hunters. People who use Sei's particle hax to steal rare Gunpla that players spend a ton of time building. Imagine spending weeks building the perfect a Master Grade Gunpla to duel at a local tournament. Then you get ambushed on your way to your local tournament and losing it in a Gunpla duel. It feels more real than digital MMO Stuff in Build Divers.
>There are no stakes.
But there were stakes though. They might not have been YOU BROKE MY MODEL stakes, but there was shit happening that had a drastic effect on the world going on. You had the hacker trying to destroy the game entirely with his virus and then that had an effect on the AI Life they were trying to protect.
>YuGiOh
Oh shut up.
You would be right...except the whole point of the show is to be an absolute shameless Toy commercial to sell Gunpla kits. It's not a typical Gundam show. The focus is on the models.
>the whole point of the show is to be an absolute shameless Toy commercial to sell Gunpla kits. It's not a typical Gundam show. The focus is on the models.
uh
>the whole point of the show is to be an absolute shameless Toy commercial to sell Gunpla kits. It's not a typical Gundam show. The focus is on the models.
This is so fricking funny, it got to be on the purpose, right?
>This is so fricking funny, it got to be on the purpose, right?
Bandai Sunrise pretty much took their staff and said, "We have some spare change jingling in our pockets. Go make an ONA promoting Gunpla. Here's barely enough money to do it, but we don't expect much from your team. Just make something good enough to be filler. Bye."
(ONA = Original Net Animation. Cheapest anime possible to make. Typically very low standards)
Build Season 1 Director: "Alright. Bet. I got some ideas."
>*makes the most shameless in your face toy commercial in Gundam history*
>show is called Build Fighters Try.
>show is not about the team called Tryon 3.
Talk about a missed opportunity
All fanservice nostalgia baiting slop like buildshit is bad.
It was garbage. I even fricking enjoyed Divers, but frick Try.
Rerise had a good writer, the same guy who screenplayed unicorn.
>the same guy who screenplayed unicorn.
So a bad writer.
Blame fukui for the original writing, unicorn anime is good for what it is
But Unicorn novel is still somehow better than the anime.
Re:Rise and Unicorn are not a good pedigree for a writer, no wonder it wasn't good.
moron
It's no where near the same quality as BF, but at least it's better than Divers/Re:Rise.
>ywn go to the Nielsen Labs
>ywn have Shia calling your gunpla beautiful
>ywn build a gunpla at night in an open air lab with Shia
>In retrospect, was it really that bad?
no but I have it on good authority that if you liked it you're a pedo somehow
>Extra homophobic
wtf I love NT now?
Liking any kind of Gundam makes you a groomer pedo. If Nazis aren't the good guys. It was made by pedos.
The only thing I know about this dude is that he got memed into being a femboy by one of his 35 y/o friends.
Who is the supposed e-girl in Try? That girl on the rival team that gets added to the MC's harem for no reason?
I feel like Fumina and Gyanko are far more popular than her
If they're under 18, that means they're underage, so clearly that means they're a e-girl and you're a pedo.
I've said before that Origin 1 is basically Ghibli Gundam and I stand by it.
>Ghibli Gundam
That's Turn A
It can be both.
Origin 1 is basically Ghibli Gundam (Derogatory)
Turn A is basically Ghibli Gundam (Complimentary)
>homosexual
>writes like an underage moron
>forgets about X in the first place
Typical Poser Twitter troony
Fights were really boring with 3vs3 type of combat. Fumina was only good thing that made me want to finish it. Music was pretty much only good thing about Try.
>Spats was only good thing that made me want to finish it.
Fixed
>Gyanko's tummy was the only good thing that made me want to finish it.
Fixed
>Gyanko's tummy was the only good thing that made me want to finish on it.
Fixed.
>not finishing inside so that there would be someone in that tummy
One job.
She is already full
By me.
>So Bandai hired a noob director for Build S2 who had only done an anime about being in an online gaming MMO. New Director hated the irl Gunpla aspects and wanted to make it about an MMO. That's what he did. Also The noob director knows how lucky he is to have his Rolex and has basically camped the position as head director of making Build anime for Bandai. He hasn't left to do any other non Bandai projects. He just makes Build anime. He's clinging onto this position until he dies. Expect build Fighters to be more online MMO shit for a long time. Original Director and writing team who made Build S1 fun are long gone.
A shame. I wish I could go check out the other timeline where the original director got to make S2 and onwards to see what would have been different.
Buildshit was never good.
>Gundamshit was never good.
FTFY
Tomino must be embarassed that out all of his works Gundam is the most popular.
This is the 2nd best build series (I've only seen 2)
Not a footgay. But Shia makes me want to massage her feet.
Stop being such a disgusting masopig.
I'm usually a sadist. I just want to make Shia happy, she just does things to my dickbrain.
People who thinks the plavsky plot from season 1 was better than the straight up tournment that try had must be absolute braindead.
EVERY BIT OF PLAVSKY BULLSHIT IN SEASON 1 IS SHIT. THANK GOD THEY ONLY DABBLE ABOUT IT IN TRY.
and lets not forgot how shit the fights in BF are, being basically "if you are not a main character no fight for you".
Tell me how many times did we see Aila fight just to see other mob with destroyed gunpla without a single fight scene.
>lets not forgot how shit the fights in BF are
Remember when the main characters fought Tryon 3?
That's what I thought.
But Build Fighters had a tournament first, for a much loftier title with people from all around the world competing.
Anon, the entire gimmick of the Burning series is Plavsky bullshit. It's the Build Knuckle on steroids.
No. It had a local tourney then it was the fricking world championship. The scale is totally moronic. You get sei who couldn't a literal child from his streets to the win the world series.
Now try had the local tourney, then they got qualified to U-19 japan. You can see the progression way easier and how big it was for them, in the final episode they fight in the locals again, showing how they achieve more by playing more, but even then there is a ceiling to their own abilities.
Assimilation is plavsky bullshit but they don't waste time on it, it exist and they use it, that is it. You dont get episodes of someone investigating it or s villain using plavsky bullshit to meddle with the competition.
The only time it is relevant is on the special, that is it.
Imagine if BF didnt had wasted time on exploring such a shitty concept and got into more fights of other characters instead of reiji and sei
Other way around. BF should've been more of plavsky particle investigation, Gunpla Mafia shenanigans and street orphans made into "Cyber-Newtypes" for Gunpla Fights. Tournaments are boring and Try proves it by playing it straight with no gimmicks.
It was a complete downgrade from its predecessor, but the girls were hot at least
>everyone liked Fumina and Gyanko
>team battles were an interesting addition
>Build Burning busting out of the Dom was amazing
>halfway through Glasses and Fumina became background support characters for Sekai to JIGENHAORYUU and oneshot his opponents
>final battle was a fricking DBZ energy clash while everyone sits at the side commenting
Try dropped the ball so hard it wasn't even funny in a trainwreck sense. At least Bandai saw how popular Fumina was and pumped out a ton of merch.
>Glasses guy had tragic backstory of his precious Gunpla getting smashed in battle against crazy bloodlusted older Gunpla fighter
>Glasses guy arch nemesis turns out to be a lame dude on enemy team who always gets his ass kicked in later episodes.
Wtf.
Honestly the worst part was that the Gunpla that Adou had in the backstory was far cooler than the one he used in the present. All of the Try designs had the problem that they were almost all completely original designs, when part of the charm of the original show was that the characters used customs and remixes of old beloved suits. I assume it negatively affected sales too, since the Divers shows went back to almost everyone using customs of existing suits.
It's very cost effective too, as the engineering can be reused to make new kits for some of the older MSes, like it happened with Gouf, Dom, R-Jarja, Galbaldy, Death Beast, Daughtress, etc.
Still waiting for the Kapool and WaDom kits btw
Entire rival team was shit, unless you're into e-girl.
One of the biggest blunders of the show.
>Glasses guy had tragic backstory of his precious Gunpla getting smashed in battle against crazy bloodlusted older Gunpla fighter
>Glasses guy arch nemesis turns out to be a lame dude on enemy team who always gets his ass kicked in later episodes.
Wtf.
Genuinely these shows are the only good part of Gundam.
Try SDs.
Frick, you're right. SD is great too.
Its not the worst thing ever but it feels like it really doesn't want to be what it's set up to be. Supposed to be a team based spinoff, have a showboating main character that does all the work for most fights. Main heroine is supposed to be a competition loving tomboy. Immediately gets sidelined in the competition, and her crush on the MC ends up turning her into a girly airhead. You forget she was even introduced as a tomboy.
Third wheel is supposed to be the "cool" type. Isn't really very cool or effective. Is bullied relentlessly by two rivals who have more presence than him.
Several rivals are set up just like in the first build fighters. Few of them really get to shine and most become audience members after their initial fights. The actual rival for the final battle is a non character with no fan following.
Show goes out of its way to set up fights displaying the limitations of the games particle system and shows you need to work around it in clever ways...
Only to show that the main character and his rival don't seem to have to adhere to these limitations at all.
It was insulting after how amazing the previous show was.
>fumina
It's odd to me that in the show Fumina was completely embarrassed and furious when the Super Fumina gunpla was shown at the end, but then Bandai shows Fumina making these suggestive poses on their merchandise. Weird personality change.
It wasn't being exposed that bothered her, it's that Minato was basically hijacking her brand. It's the same deal as with broads who complain about sexy girls in video games but turn around and claim being a sex worker is empowering.
Minato should've found a better girl anyway.
Rule 63 Yuuma?
HG 1/144 Lightning Yuu-ko
1/48 Mega Size
>Rule 63 Yuuma?
Scary how that might be an improvement.
Sex sells and sales beat characterization. Just imagine her seeing that box and freaking out.
If you saw how shit looking Super Fumina kit is in the real life, you'd be embarassed too.
I assumed that all the intros and products are Minato's wet dreams. The Fumina balloons he made include outfits from the intro.
Marketing Fumina is a totally different character than Fumina.
Yeah, Try was terrible. Had none of the energy and soul Fighters did, and while it did have some points it's favor it didn't dwell on any of them. Shia>Fumina. The beach episode movie was surprisingly good, though.
I love this little bawd so much.
I was so sure her introduction was going to herald the turning point of show. The real story begins now, revolving around this mysterious girl in the moonlight. But nope, she's just some frick that doesn't really matter and nobody really cares about.
You're right that she's great, though.
Surprisingly good in this context doesn't actually mean that great. It Tried to recapture some of the energy S1 had and succeeded to an extent, a bunch of plavsky particle nonsense and the final boss just spamming superweapons, and some of the character bits and gags were fun, but it's still Try.
>"""Eeeeek!! A g-g-ghost!!"""
>"Eek. A ghost."
>Shia>Fumina.
Based.
>The beach episode movie was surprisingly good, though.
Eh.
It had some good points, like showing MILF Aila and having some nice customs (compared to original show).
But then it also kinda ruined Gyanko and Scramble Gundam was shit.
it gave us Gyanko, so who can really say
Not everyone is a fat appreciator.
And some that are prefer to put some work into fattening the slim girl themselves making Fumina or Shia better target.
I'm not into chunky girls but Gyanko is so nice you can't help but like her. Full disclosure I'm a Shiagay.
ANIME JA NAI
Both seasons of Divers are better than Try. S2 is just a step below GBF, in part because it cured the blue balls that series left us with by only giving us a glimpse of Reiji's isekai. Try failed because it defaulted to the tired hot-blooded dumbass protag and school setting.
Sekai and Fumina were great. Everything else was bland or awful. I can't remember a single opponent from the entire series except the Tryon 3 guy (and not even his teammates).
This except Fumina was bland and Sekai was awful.
>I can't remember a single opponent from the entire series except the Tryon 3 guy (and not even his teammates).
Gyanko, that guy with straight-built Destiny from the little brother and not-Sleggar were alright.
If they were in a show that treated their own cast better they'd be fan favourites, but it was Try, so they were basically dropped around the second half.
I find it hilarious all the side casts were good and fun except the main rival team
Not all of them. Just some from the first half of the show, while everyone from the second half was shit. SD team and Crossbone guy were among the worst, while main rivals were just kinda boring.
The only one who had potential is the edgy rival from Sekai's martial arts group, but all we got is a funny car ride scene out of it.
Personally, I find it all sad rather than hilarious. Try didn't have to be shit. They almost did some things correctly.
What's your Try team? Hardmode: No funnels
Face of the team (Gundam type only):
Artillery/Big Gun unit (any mobile suit type):
Wacky Support unit (non-Gundam type only):
S Gundam, ZZMP, RS-Jarj... wait, that wouldn't be wacky enough. Hildolfr
Dunno for the others, but I’ve been bouncing around the idea of a GM-02 - a GM II with the nuke bazooka off the GP-02 and a reckless disregard for minimum safe distance.
>GM01fb
>GM02
>GM03 GMdrobium
>alternatively, GMbera Tetra
I like this idea.
>GMdrobium’s missile boxes are just scaled up versions of the GM III shoulder boxes
Team GPGM is honestly sounding like a fun idea.
GMbera Tetra would be a GM Camouf derivative, of course.
The cannon for the GMdrobium should just be an MG or PG Ball cannon.
3 Zudahs with GN drives. Either we outspeed our opponents, or we commit jihad on them.
I’m pretty sure going Trans Am would make you go back in time or something
That's the plan Anon, either we make the Phenex look like a snail, or we make Heero and Athrun green with envy.
Zudah with Tallgeese thrusters with GN drives in those thrusters
There just wasn't really any reason to want to root for the main team. You had characters with better motivations like snap build kun for starters but even that aside the main team just didn't have any rivalry that you wanted to see them overcome in a meaningful way. You really only get the sense that the main group was having fun when they were winning and when that didn't happen the flipped the board.
B-but Fumina and Yuuma had some promise as kids. A-and Yuuma had to face the guy who traumatized him again head-on.
The more I think about all this shit, the more I hate Try.
>Fumina's motivation is she saw lady kawaguchi fight before she was lady kawaguchi
>this subplot goes literally nowhere during the show
>even set up a fight with lady kawaguchi
>still do nothing with it other than have her get fricking bodied and accept her support role
>accept her support role
The whole point of the Lady Kawaguchi fight was teaching Fumina that she'd overspecialized into support and it was actually dragging the party down. That's why the Star Winning swapped from being a support unit into an all-purpose machine, and also one of the very few legitimately creative designs in the entire show.
The entire Lady Kawaguchi deal was kinda trash, honestly. Like, the show didn't give a single reason to believe that she's a good builder or fighter and it was such a random thing to introduce.
The only reason she existed is to give Fumina (and Shia) someone to idolize, when there was no real reason to do that. Perhaps if it was a tournament in which she could participate it would be interesting to have her as an opponent or something, but there was no way for that to happen.
Which is a shame, original BF was fun with adult participants.
This is true though. And I kinda love Star Winning.
There are probably more context for her in the Amazing Ready manga (emphasis on probably, I can't read it myself), but in the actual show she really came out of nowhere.
Yeah, I was going to mention Meijin manga too, but making a side story character important without proper introduction is a weird choice. Not to mention I'm not sure if she came from there or was added in after seeing notes from Try production team.
>still do nothing with it other than have her get fricking bodied and accept her support role
Fumina and Yuuma had more in one scene joking about how many death flags they're raising than Sekai and his harem.
They really should've gone that route and did a more straightforward Sekai/Shia ship, both as a means of tying him to a rival team and making them a combo of people who compliment each other well (a genius fighter and a genius builder). Gyanko can go make out with Shimon or whatever.
Sure, that would be a rethread of the OG Build Fighters in a lot of ways, but more importantly, it would be way better than what we got. Not to mention that Yuuma's crush on Sekai's sister was stupid. As is, at least.
It's really tragic that side ships stopped being allowed. Thanks a lot self insert gays.
>Not to mention that Yuuma's crush on Sekai's sister was stupid. As is, at least.
Oh yeah. That was a character. I completely forgot.
She had a cool Gunpla race episode, but otherwise, might as well not exist.
And that's after being set-up as Kirara of the show. As well as supposedly sexy MC's relative. Or something.
Every AU including and after Seed has been dog shit tailored to the brain dead whales that would buy an anal vibrator so long as it's in RX-78-2 colors.
Was Build Fighters the last good Gundam series?
>Witch was yuri trash
>IBO was just shit
I liked divers re:rise
Witch good.
IBO good.
Re:Rise good.
Build Fighters good.
Only half of that post is correct.
Boobies good
All of -build- gundam shows are good and heads and shoulders better than any -serious- installments.
Sure. Except for Try.
The bad guys won.
Kuroda is and always has been a fricking hack. The only times he puts out semi-decent stuff like Gundam 00 is when the director keeps him on such a short leach he's holding the collar.
Case in point, go check out the Panzer Dragoon OVA, which he also wrote. I fricking dare you.
My biggest problem with Try is that it sets up all these connections with the original Fighters and does frick all with any of them. Like oh, Yuuma is the brother of China, the Build Burning was built by Sei, Sekai keeps getting compared Reiji. Do these mean anything? Does it set up cool callbacks or cameos? Nope. China barely appears, the only shot of adult Sei is his fricking mouth, and the only allusion to Reiji is in the ova. You can cut out most of the references to the original Fighters and nothing about Try would really change.
Honestly, Re:Rise makes me even more pissed about Try because it did all that shit right. It follows up on lingering plot points from Divers. It creates connections between the casts of both Divers and Re:Rise in ways that actually informs more about those characters. It teases the main cast of Divers and actually has them show up.
Oh yeah. Rerise managed to be a rare better than the first sequel while try was bad. It’s sad because the animators put effort into try
was I imagining it or did the target demographic get younger in each build anime?
>Fighters
Is for nerds and kids
>Try
Is for Try's production committiee and hentai artists
>Divers
Is for kids and nerds
>Rerise
Is for teens
So overall, not really.
>GBF was sorta juvenile but offset by an earnest loveletter to the franchise
>GBF Try was a shallow cash-in sequel that was hella juvenile from lazy writing
>Divers was overtly aimed at a young audience
>Re:Rise was aimed at early teens and leaned into depression themes
So... kinda yes but the last one pulled back. Unless you just want to focus on LMAO FURRIES.
Yeah. Should have just been a girl trying to win and maybe getting her former best friend out of his no gunpla battle funk. Sekai was so disconnected from the rest they had to bring Shia and her awful brother in.
That reference was max randumb. All it did is made me question whether they actually forced Sekai to watch the show or not, but seeing how he remained secondary it's more likely that he just heard the song while hanging out with them.
Which is only confirms again that Try is terrible.
It's the kind of superficial reference you get in that "Hello fellow kids and young people" style.
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