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duckman
>writing
duckman
>characters
critic
The Critic obviously. Duckman was shit and just conservative cope. Just like South Park.
an argument could be made that duckman's criticism of society and how it alienates people is a left wing message
Duckman was an inherently liberal show, it was just 90s liberalism so it wasn't fricking insane and could actually portray a nuanced message. Both modern liberals and conservatives would have been called whackos by liberals and conservatives in the 90s.
Conservatives were biblethumping "DnD is satanic" fundies back then, but the counterculture was college hippies/college limousine liberals and not foreigners/full blown Marxists today. We never could have known how bad America could get without White men in power though.
giwtwm
>conservative
???
It's not far left enough for him so by default his programming categorizes duckman as conservative. Facts and context be damned.
I can see how a modern liberal would think that Duckman is "conservative".
He's a foul mouthed jackass who tends to treat women like objects, defended edgy insult comics (The one episode Cinemaphile always likes to bring up), and his arch-rival is his feminist sister-in-law. But those were always presented as his FLAWS. Duckman gives a shit about his family, hates how vapid yet crazy society had devolved into due to no one caring about their fellow man, and was trying to fill the hole left by his dead wife. Hell; the whole "Where's America" episode represents the whole of the 1950s as being a monstrously condescending misogynist under a thin veneer of civility.
It's really tragic how we've reach a point where the audience can't recognize when a character isn't supposed to be considered in the right just because their name is on the title card and the idea of liking someone despite them being wrong is likewise alien.
>Duck man
>Conservative
What's on gods green earth are you smoking.
>t. only saw the comedy rant on youtube and thought that was the entire show
Why are Duckman's eyes inside of his glasses? Weird design
Because he's a cartoon character.
the sentence that has the power to counter any Cinemaphile argument
They do different things
The critic is funnier but the critic doesn't spend half of the show showing how truly awful the protagonist is
I want to frick Bernice
Eww
there was literally a hypno cow thread and I'm "ewww"??
How mentally damaged do you have to be to relate to this gay
I think most people who have been burnt out by modern life can relate to this rant
Duckman came out at the same time that an album like OK Computer could have been a big hit and Office Space was a smash at the theaters. The late 90s were characterized by an increasing malaise about how mundane the life of the average worker was becoming.
I'd much rather go back and live that mundane life than whatever the frick today is.
Oh yeah I agree and almost added something similar to my post, hindsight is golden though and nobody knew how crazy shit was about to get.
>office space
>smash hit
It flopped hard in theaters and was only saved because it did really well on Video.
It really is funny how there's this persistent theme in 90s media of "OH MY GOD EVERYTHING'S SO MONOTONOUS I'M GOING FRICKING INSANE" and people now look back on that decade as basically a golden age.
Because they had no idea how good they had it.
But it's all relative.
> be born in the 1950s or 60s, go through some crazy fricking decades of crazy new technology, trends, some of the best music ever made, the 80s were their own high... the 90s were corporate as frick and tame in comparison to the past 3 decades, everyone was burnt out and being giant fricking hypocrites chasing the dollar and extracting all the fun out of everything. Political correctness run amuck. The same boomers who were doing drugs were yelling at kids not do do them. It was a time of artificial, stupid bullshit not unlike today with how millennials spent their teenage years being edgy and crude, just to scream down the throats of zoomers and gen alpha about what is morally correct and problematic.
The 90s had their perks, but as someone who lived in the 90s.. they're overrated too. They're just better in comparison to how fricking shit things are today. The 2000s personally were a rough time for me, but I can say they were better than the 90s. The 90s was pretty fricking boring with all the boomers getting off their coke high and making the whole world about themselves and treating the children like morons and pumping drugs down their throats.
The past decade has been this weird carefully cultivated social experiment that has turned everyone against each other after everyone started noticing that the banks fricked everything up and call them out by name.
Ever since the end of 2012 we have had politics shoved into every aspect of society and entertainment, and it's been horrible. You cant even escape it.
and to clarify, by 1993, political correctness took over, hell I got slapped by teacher for saying "cripple" and put in detention for a week with no context until at the end of it, I was told why I was there. by 1997, everyone had it with pandering to religious frickheads, and left leaning politically correct types and you saw this explosion in society and media pushing the boundaries as a massive frick you to these people. The religious right and the moral crusaders of the left both trying to police people's habits and behaviors got run the frick down. the late 90s was a hell lot more fun, the early 2000s was an extension of that fun, even the cringe edgy shit. Then 9/11 happened and that stuff sort of quieted down.
Really the most memorable bits of the 90s and 2000s were about 5 years out of the entire decade and maybe 2-3 out of the 2000s with different trends.
The 2000s were cool because I ended up meeting a lot of interesting people that are now involved with a lot of the media that people love today. (the good media too) Like, some of my old internet friends now have IMDB entries on multi-million dollar productions who were just fricking around with art and animation back then.
The 90s were basically a "solved decade" is how I think of it. America won the Cold War and at the time had zero competition, trends were basically hard-baked into society, there was prosperity everywhere but not really much to do with it, etc. The media of the time getting so crazy was basically a product of everyone being bored out of their skulls because if you lived in the developed world shit was just static on a day-to-day basis. In retrospect yeah, they had it good, but in the moment it just felt like this stasis you couldn't escape from, and so media got fricking crazy and angsty to try and make up for that.
Honestly that was a better summary than I could have said.
It was really the advent of first world problems too.
To be honest, it was really the calm before the storm. All the shit we pulled in the 70s and 80s to win the cold war came due on 9/11.
Critic is the more watchable show but Duckman had more to say.
Anon if you can't relate to duckman on some level you might just be lacking the self-awareness to realize when you've been a c**t.
Some people have told me that I, indeed, lack self-awareness and sometimes hurt others' feelings.
I'm still not sure about my situation, though
How mentally damaged and much of a liar do you have to be to not!? Do you really expect anyone to sit here and believe that mr high and might cartoon image board poster has his life in order? That he doesn't have any sore spots, bad thoughts, broken hearts and kumquats? No sir I don't buy it. Everybody out there, every shit post you see on this endless nightmare of replies and yous can relate to me on some level. Some of them just aren't too chicken shit to admit. Like they think if they deny to growing brain aneurysm gnawing away at the inside of their skull it will just magically go away and then BAM! stroke city! The sooner you admit your just as broken, tired and hateful as everyone else instead of parading around like the Mahatma frigging Gandhi the sooner we can stop calling you a gay and move on with our lives! Ah what's the point. We're just spiraling ever closer to internet entropy waiting for this serve to change hands till we all get swallowed up by the giant reddit microcosm and the old gays will all either die off, kill themselves or just go jack off to anime porn in a ditch.
it's so fricking over
duckman had no idea how crazy all this shit would get
What would duckman think abou the modern world?
he'd love it, everyone is a degenerate nowadays
no he wouldn't
duckman but its because i hate jon lovitz voice
Pleb
>The Critic
Classic Simpsons era-adjacent comedy with several of the same writers and lots of pop culture references, snappy writing, an excellent VA performances and hilarious characters.
>Duckman
GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET....
I love the way the critic depicts humans. the show needed more regular characters though imo. and season 2 they cheapen out on the visuals by simplifying the style. season 2 also doubles the amount of fat jokes for some reason.
The Critic is one of the only shows I started and I couldn't even get through the first season. It's just not a funny show.
Could never get into Duckman so Critic. Also a good example of how important a good voice actor is because Jay wouldn't have worked voiced by anyone else.
Duckman (though I find both better than Matt and Seth's shows)
I got into Duckman more as I got older
Duckman. I liked The Critic well enough but Duckman is on another, much higher level.
would you mind showing us some examples of duckman-tier shows?
as far as Western adult TV animation goes, Clone High, Venture Bros, Xavier Renegade Angel, Morel Orel and The Boondocks are I think pretty great. I feel like more monumentally popular shows go without saying, if just for a portion of their run. Would you mind giving some examples of what you consider great?
Critic taught me that women love it when men are persistent.
Both.
Both were memorable and amazing shows that got outshone by inferior shows and fricked by their respective networks.
Duckman getting fricked by virtue of being stuck on USA network, which was the network no one fricking watched.
Critic got fricked by ABC, then when it went to Fox, it was put in the prime time death slot.
.numB
Duckman by a landslide
I liked both, but Duckman aged better.