In the book Alex drugged and raped two twelve year old girls. In the film he has consensual sex with women who look adult

In the book Alex drugged and raped two twelve year old girls

In the film he has consensual sex with women who look adult

Why did Kubrick make this change?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he didn't understand the book because it was written in a shitty leddit dialect

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But it has a slang dictionary at the back of the book

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh man, I hate reddit!

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kubrick had already done the e-girlta movie, he didn't want to retread on old ground

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People were supposed to root and feel bad for alex, him raping 2 kids is beyond salvation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >murdering an innocent woman and beating up the homeless for fun is forgivable
      >BUT NOOO NOT SEX WITH THE HECKIN GIRLS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >violence is le good and funny
        >any sort sexual violence? noooooo
        t. average american audience

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The blonde is so hot I always have to pause and fap at the right frames to her
    70s girls were on another level

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably didn't want to show that on film? Is it a mystery?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every girl with a nude scene in this is top tier. For me its the girl getting raped by billy boys gang

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ywn walk around dressed like a nazi (helmet included) raping hoes with your billy boys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn’t rape, it was theatrical sex

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was the one at the cure demonstration, that shot of Alex looked up at her perky breasts was kino

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She was hot.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They consented to taking the drugs and enjoyed the sex. It was drafting off the free love movement of the 60s, lots of drugs, lots of sex. The idea that girls can’t consent to sex if under the influence of [anything] is a recent invention, to control/block white population growth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were literally asking for it in the book althoughbeit

      They may have enjoyed the sex while drunk but when they woke up they were upset. Thing he fricked them several times and in the ass and they were probably virgins do kinda sore in both holes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >12 years old
        >adolescent
        >in clockwork orange
        >virgins

        Sure, they were upset about the painal, but there is zero chance they were virgins in the setting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nts but I disagree

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Twelve year old girls don’t enjoy being fricked by some teenage psycho

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He doesn't know

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one tell him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alex recently turned 15 and the girls are 12/13. In the context of the novel they are supposed to be of similar age.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At that age they wouldn’t enjoy sex regardless

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I jerk offd before I was 12. Its not uncommon for young people of a similar age to enjoy sex with each other. Regardless the text of the novels describes it as enjoyable for them, but that could just be from all the drugs they take.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          [...]
          It's amazing how, in an age when things are easily searchable and verified, morons still confidently share inaccurate or false details.
          Marty and Sonietta were 10. Alex was 15.

          The girls are 10 and it is implied they are virgins, Alex also gets them drunk and drugs them before he repeatedly has unprotected sex with them. Its just depicted as one of the many bad things he does.

          >Molotov, and all the rest of that cal. These two pbreastsas couldn’t have been more than ten,
          >The two young pbreastsas started giggling, as they will at that age,
          >No school this afterlunch, but education certainly, Alex as teacher. Their names, they said, were Marty and Sonietta, bezoomny enough and in the heighth of their childish fashion
          >so I unlocked the treasure-chest in my room and gave these ten-year-young devotchkas a real horrorshow Scotchman apiece, though well filled with sneezy pins-and-needles soda.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno if it’s meant to show how British society was just fricked or what that this was so easy for Alex to do and that he didn’t even think about it

            Especially given Alex’s character arc in the book is basically growing out of being this psycho by the age of 21 and wanting to just settle down with a normal job and wife and kids

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >was
              The book was written in the 60s and set in a future where all the social issues of the time had worsened/expanded

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >growing out of being this psycho by the age of 21 and wanting to just settle down with a normal job and wife and kids
              lol, now imagine if he were Black

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This time they thought nothing fun and stopped creeching with high mirth, and had to submit to the strange and weird desires of Alexander the Large which, what with the Ninth and the hypo jab, were choodessny and zammechat and very demanding, O my brothers. But they were both very very drunken and could hardly feel very much.
            > They were like waking up to what was being done to their malenky persons and saying that they wanted to go home and like I was a wild beast.
            >They were creeching and going ow ow ow as they put their platties on, and they were like punchipunching me with their teeny fists as I lay there dirty and nagoy and fair shagged and gayged on the bed. This young Sonietta was creeching: ‘Beast and hateful animal. Filthy horror.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >12 years old
        >adolescent
        >in clockwork orange
        >virgins

        Sure, they were upset about the painal, but there is zero chance they were virgins in the setting.

        Alex recently turned 15 and the girls are 12/13. In the context of the novel they are supposed to be of similar age.

        It's amazing how, in an age when things are easily searchable and verified, morons still confidently share inaccurate or false details.
        Marty and Sonietta were 10. Alex was 15.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still old enough for cummies. Prepubescents can have orgasms. As soon as they’re adolescent they can have/enjoy intercourse.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's not the point, you degenerate coomstain. If you could literally touch grass, lift heavy things, or go 48 hours without touching your peepee, you wouldn't say such things, ironically or otherwise.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I have no argument but let me tell you how angry I am

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The argument is done: morons post inaccurate information needlessly, and scum post moronic shit
                The rest is insulting you for being subhuman, but providing the steps to become human

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’re the only one who posted inaccurate information and are now impotently screeching in response to accurate information.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, you're right. I'm clearly the ridiculous one here. I lose.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why did he find 10 year old girls attractive anyway? His character isn’t a pedo the rest of the story

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you do research into child molestation apparently only half the people who abuse children are classified as pedo.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How does that work

              If you rape somebody once you’re a rapist forever. But if you find somebody who haven’t gone through puberty attractive and have sex with them you aren’t a pedo?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pedophilia is not a legal concept. It’s a psychological concept for sexual attraction to prepubescents. You don’t need to be sexually attracted to prepubescents to be a “child molester,” because the law calls anything under an arbitrary age a “child.”

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone has at some point been attracted to a girl who isn't 18. A pedo is someone who prefers youngins over adults, but there are absolutely tones of adults attracted to adults who may be attracted to a younger girl at some point. It's human nature.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Big difference between being attracted to say, 14 year olds compared to 10 year olds

                Hence why they have psychological definitions like hebephilia for teens

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok but someone who is attracted to adults for the most part but might have a passing fancy in a 14 year old is not a hebophile.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >passing fancy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah they would be,

                Only exception is if the 14 year old girl was super convincingly looking 18-20

                There’s certainly some like that but not many

                Once you get older you can tell ages easier

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be classed as a paedophile or ephebophile your primary attraction must be to that age group, if you are mainly attracted to adults you are not classed as a paedophile or ephebophile.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Once you get older you can tell ages easier

                It’s the opposite, the older you get the younger young people look. Eventually everything between toddler and 25 looks like a child.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They would be except in cases which they arent because she is attractive like an adult

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >super convincingly looking 18-20
                >Once you get older you can tell ages easier

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hebophile and ephebophile are not real terms. They’re post-hoc subclassifactions of “normal” that only exist because some people think it’s abnormal to be sexually attracted to people with developed primary and secondary sexual characteristics. By using the terms at all, you classify attraction to post-adolescents as abnormal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not how English works. Teleiophile is the attraction to adults, that does not imply it is wrong or uncommon. Same for the existence of words like heterosexual or cisgender.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is not how biology works. A girl is an adult as soon as she’s able to carry a pregnancy to term. A boy is an adult as soon as their penis works.

                Adding more and more terms just adds complication to simple biological fact.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Having words to accurately describe things does not somehow invalidate those things.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You aren’t accurately describing anything though. You’re creating arbitrary distinctions between age brackets based entirely upon legal definitions that have nothing to do with physiology or biology.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >arbitrary distinctions

                That’s all human definitions

                The change for Pluto from planet to non planet is arbitrary. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing arbitrary about the difference between a prepubescent and post-pubescent

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would a 13 year old girl be biologically ready to have a baby but not be old enough to have sex?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You lost and also did ironic redditspacing to hide it lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Any classification of development deeper than a binary is too confusing for me
                Brainlet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you said thing is arbitrary that mean you confused!

                No. The distinctions between age groups, outside of prepubescent, post-pubescent, and pre-post/menopausal are just arbitrary. There’s some justification for a classification between late 30s and menopause, but all the others are based on nothing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >heterosexual isn’t real because it’s normal

                You gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its like Prison rape, the people who do it aren't always gay.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why? He's a degenerate. He describes them: sucking on popsicles, swinging hips to music is disc shop, wearing lipstick and padded bras
            >Then an idea hit me and made me near fall over with the anguish and ecstasy of it, O my brothers, so I could not breathe for near ten seconds.
            And an opportunistic coomer too

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He wanted to try something different.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    books are for queers

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They also didnt wear codpieces with masks like in the book
    And didnt have the candy store scene in the intro

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he was Kubrick, not Polanski.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All c*s sex is rape.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My memory is fading. I don't remember them being actually ten in the book.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Kubrick predicted Jelly Roll

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