as a prof i can confirm this is the case - 90% of the people in my department are fricking useless outside of their niche areas of specialization (i'm not *much* better, but i can at least function in broader society). we had to take one of our profs off a teaching assignment last year because despite being a brilliant theorist, he was so bafflingly incompetent at practical electronics that he fried about $10K worth of equipment in the introductory lab he was teaching that semester.
Yeah I heard she showed up and that happened, so they're still apparently getting divorced at the end? Is the divorce due to issues stemming from mutts death or if not, what is it?
Indy looks at the divorce papers at the start of the movie and then puts a fridge magnet over a photo of Marion. They divorced because she had "endless grief" from Mutt being killed in Vietnam. They reunite at the end and it's implied they get back together.
Is the de aging the best you've seen? Some pictures look alright but some look like shit.
Honestly better than Rogue One. Having the entire opening set at night definitely helps hide it. You can really see how fake he is sometimes tho.
Indy has an emotional moment when he tells PWB he wish he could travel back in time to stop Mutt from enlisting. He's also sad when one of his other friends is shot by Mads. PWB is hooting an hollering and Indy tells her to shut up because he just lost a friend.
He mentions the watch he wearing is his Fathers at one point.
Sallah was alright. He just shows up in a cab, hangs out with his family in his apartment, then drives Indy to the airport. He asks to come with him but Indy says no.
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>Sallah was alright. He just shows up in a cab, hangs out with his family in his apartment, then drives Indy to the airport.
He just shows up randomly, unconnected to the story? Is indy in Egypt or wherever or does sallah live in America now?
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Indy is believed to have shot some of his co-workers in the school but it was Mads crew. So he calls Sallah for help and he picks him up. Sallah introduces Indy to his family as the guy that helped get him out of Egypt
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>Sallah introduces Indy to his family as the guy that helped get him out of Egypt
Didn't indy spend time with his family in raiders?
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But marion met him, and it's not like he has anyone else to introduce him to. Explain, please.
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>Sallah was alright. He just shows up in a cab,
Was he the monarch of the sea in this one?
>Kathleen Kennedy is going to be sacked because of it
kathleen kennedy is going to survive you doomwiener Black person. When you finaly kick the bucket from opiods and booze she will be nice enough to show to your funeral. And with the priest they will be the only ones there
Kennedy should have been fired years ago, (even corporate leftists agree) and despite having MULTIPLE humiliating flops and disasters in the last year, literally nothing is happening to her. Ever.
It is the absurd thing that I’ve ever seen in Hollywood. So something more is clearly going on here. Either she’s doing exactly what the Regime wants or she has a unique contract structure that makes it difficult to release her without larger consequences. But she is a failure, and a failure who happens to be entirely free from the consequences of her own failure. It’s wild
why would she possibly go to jail? she has enough friends in spite of her failures that even if someone cooked up false charges of some kind she'd get off
On one hand he didn't win until the movie was long in the can ready to edit but on the other with how disastrous reshoots are becoming I don't see why they couldn't
>Bizarre considering he won an Oscar why couldn’t they just shoehorn a cameo?
Because Ford himself has never won an Oscar, so they cancelled Short Round's cameo due to Ford's SEETHING. As I recall, Shorty came back to film that other movie as prep for Indy since he was "rusty". Kek.
So we're supposed to believe Archimedes invented a time travel device? Is it true it just takes them back to one particular battle? Is the ancient world stuff done well?
The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space. The German plane fly's through a portal to some greek battle the the plane scares all the romans. It all looks so fake and shitty.
>The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space
Is that all you get for about explanation? So it's basically just magic? Does indy end up back in ancient Greece? I wasn't expecting much from this but it sounds worse than I was expecting. How did the audience react?
They keep saying in the movie it's not magic, it's maths. The goal of Mads is to travel back in time to 1939 to take over from Hitler and use his rocket science knowledge to win the war. Indy figures out it's impossible that Archimedes knew about continental drift so the calculations are wrong and they end up in Ancient Greece. PWB says that it's a fixed point and Archimedes made the device to call for help from the future. They talk to him in ancient greek for a while about he great he is. Indy meanwhile has been shot in the chest and has been bleeding this whole time. He insists on staying but PWB punches him out and he wakes up back home. Just2Good was tails the German plane in a smaller plane that the Italian(?) pilot was sleeping in. She literally punches him out. Cuts to black. He wakes up in bed. Marion comes in. Sallah comes in with a bunch of kids . Every one leaves and Grandpa and Grandma awkwardly kiss. The end.
Audience was silent the entire movie. not even a laugh.
>Sallah introduces Indy to his family as the guy that helped get him out of Egypt
Didn't indy spend time with his family in raiders?
Sallah has grandkids now. Maybe Indy hadn't met them yet
>Just2Good
I thought that was just a meme. Is that what the little mutt is actually called in the movie? Did you get tickets to an advanced screening or was it a media thing? I know Harrison Ford was locked in to this movie years ago but it sounds like him and the character are both humiliated by this movie. I'm surprised how happy he looked at the official opening, although he never shit talks his own movies. George looked like he knew it was complete shit, at least they can't blame it on him this time.
>She literally punches him out. Cuts to black. He wakes up in bed
That sounds like where the reshoot comes in. There was probably a "passing the torch" scene, but instead they just fade to black and cut to the new ending.
there was a scene as recent as the last test screening where the girl says "indy isn't your real name" and indy says how its actually the dogs name, so she says "so anyone can be indiana jones" or something to that effect, and indy just says I guess, and then he walks away as they focus on her guess they realized no one liked her and cut it
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>anyone can be Indiana Jones
Not Short Round apparently, frick Spielberg for leaving him out of KOTC and frick Kennedy for this time too
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it's actually good that short round dodged both these bullets because obviously he remains unscathed and 2) it just makes him a cool side adventure character on indy's journeys
short round coming back would be some memberberries bullshit
>They keep saying in the movie it's not magic, it's maths. The goal of Mads is to travel back in time to 1939 to take over from Hitler and use his rocket science knowledge to win the war. Indy figures out it's impossible that Archimedes knew about continental drift so the calculations are wrong and they end up in Ancient Greece. PWB says that it's a fixed point and Archimedes made the device to call for help from the future. They talk to him in ancient greek for a while about he great he is. Indy meanwhile has been shot in the chest and has been bleeding this whole time. He insists on staying but PWB punches him out and he wakes up back home
this is a fricking disaster holy shit
>They keep saying in the movie it's not magic, it's maths
when the frick did these NERDS take control of the franchise? jesus CHRIST
yeah bro, the ark of the covenant is opened and a big light comes in that melts everyone's faces off, then a scientist comes in to say it's not the holy light of god it's actually just physics lmao
FRICK YOU
these dorks should go back to writing Star Wars, they have no idea what they're fkn doing
>continental drift
It's not like Archimedes was born 50 million years ago. The continents haven't drifted that much for the past 100 thousand years, let alone 3 thousand years.
Here's something else that pissed me off. Mads had this 8 foot muscle man to do his dirty work for him and he doesn't even get a big over the top death like all the other dudes do in the other movies.
There's another henceman that looks like Owen Wilson from Bottle Rocket too. A black lady (also part of Mads team for some reason) calls him a 'trigger happy cracker'
It's the same problem with people attempting to make the empire diverse, when you have the bad guys completely acting out doubleplus good politics, it just undercuts your portrayal of them as evil
They're doing it to upset you and others like you. The only way to fight back is to stop caring. They can't ruin old movies just because they have a legal right to use the same character names. It's just deliberately bad fan fiction.
>They can't ruin old movies
There's a recent trend to censor/filter old scenes/pages from movies/books deemed inappropriate for modern age. Give a few year and they will turn to editing instead. In fact it already happened for Roald Dahl's books.
That's why you need to torrent and save shit before they edit everything they don't like out of existence. I heard they were editing Goosebumps books a while back.
Wait until unedited footages are deemed illegal >anon's son reports anon to the Kino Regulation Department because of 10 seconds of uncensored hetero sex scene on a VHS >he has to work the popcorn mine for the rest of his life
Calm down, you actually live in an incredible time to be alive and have it easier than almost any other generation that came before.
If you honestly think censorship will stop you from watching classics, torrent them and hold onto your copy forever.
If these tools remain accessible to the public, this is nothing but a good thing for us. You’ll be able to input a prompt like “give me a 10 season show based on the main 10 book Malazan storyline” and receive a fully rendered, photorealistic adaptation of the request, done with more accuracy and detail than any human is capable. Hollywood will become completely irrelevant.
female led franchises are forgettable
by this time next year we will be remoralized with proper Indiana Jones and the Solar Pyramids of the Mayans
think fully AI generated and only 1 young woman side character and her good looks and cleavage matter to the story.
You dumb AI worshipping fricks seem to think that accuracy and detail are what make an entertaining show. Unironically if you want the most accurate adaptation of a book why do you want an adaptation at all?
Show an AI script that is actually any good, that actually surprises, that actually does something non derivative of the most milktoast writing available.
>nothing but AI rehashes of 20th century intellectual property
add; Dumbed down as frick in order to make everyone have an IQ of a heavily used doorknob.
Well, in this case it works because Indy is supposed to have had thousands of adventures...
I reckon some future cgi movies might me good if the writing and directing is good...
I think less of you as a man for giving this shit show your money. Do better.
I gots to know. Plus now you now not to see it.
>Just2Good
I thought that was just a meme. Is that what the little mutt is actually called in the movie? Did you get tickets to an advanced screening or was it a media thing? I know Harrison Ford was locked in to this movie years ago but it sounds like him and the character are both humiliated by this movie. I'm surprised how happy he looked at the official opening, although he never shit talks his own movies. George looked like he knew it was complete shit, at least they can't blame it on him this time.
I keep referring to the kid as Just2Good because he looks just like it. Afro/curly hair. Dirty mustache.
I'm gonna see it (for free!) just to hatewatch. If it's going to be mindbendingly bad then I want to have been there when it happened. Normally when I watch shit knowing I'm watching shit I just turn my brain off and try to enjoy it, but this time I'm ready to fume in seat for two hours straight. Will try to keep an open mind anyway though, but I am prepared.
I'm in NZ and checked my local kinoplex to see how the screenings are doing. Pretty lacklustre, not as bad as little mudmaid but not good. Let me put it this way, they haven't kicked Flash off the imax screen for Indy yet.
they're doing multiple smaller theatres at the same time, devoting the adult recliner and wine theatres to it so it seems like they're expecting an older crowd.
There are still plenty of seats for the screenings starting in 15 mins, there's another 2 theatres doing Indy screenings in 45 mins and they're not even 20% booked.
They’ll keep Little Mermaid, Flash and Dial of Destiny as long as humanly possible on screens even though theatres are gonna be practically empty by next week. This is absolutely the shittiest summer season not counting Covid years
No. But he is shot in the chest near the end it and seems like he could. It's not enough to stop him from parachuting from a crashing German plane tho.
This is how you can tell there were lots of re-shoots.
When things like this don’t add up, it’s because different scenes were added after shooting had wrapped, including the entire ending.
That part where he shot a fat white guy in a red cap from behind while muttering "I've been killing nazis my entire life and I won't stop" is cringe tbqh
>According to the article, part of the reason this movie got so much funding is because anti-nazi media isn't working anymore on new generations
This time it'll work for sure!
>anti-nazi media isn't working anymore on new generations
Turns out zoomies don't give a shit about 100 year old events. Once Napoleon was the Hitler of his day.
It's so blatantly fanservicey, it's hard to believe they're actually trying to say "muh Nazis bad".
It just makes his whole look extremely aesthetic and powerful.
>I'm pretty sure zoomers are going to like the Nazi aesthetic even more now.
Can you blame them? Mads ioutfit looks just perfect.
It's so blatantly fanservicey, it's hard to believe they're actually trying to say "muh Nazis bad".
It just makes his whole look extremely aesthetic and powerful.
That's pretty much it. PWB pulled open the bomb bay/parachute door and all the other Nazi's fall out into the ocean. Remember Indy has been shot in the heart when he's shouting at PWB in that end part there.
Also, side note, that part when Sallah shouts to give them hell, Indy almost gets hit by a car walking into the airport because comedy?
So time travel confirmed? What a bullshit. I thought young Indy deaging was only for opening retrospective like in Last Crusade.
Also what about Die Glocke and other rumors?
>Die Glocke
What's that?
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>>Die Glocke >What's that?
Rumored nazi experiment, also known as Haunebu. Basically hypothetical experimental vehicle, possibly anti gravitational or even reality bending/interdiamensional UFO style thing.
Okay, Grug. I'm going to have to ask you to do something really hard: can you explain to me what the meaning of "Just2Good" is?
I'm not current on moronspeak.
That's pretty much it. PWB pulled open the bomb bay/parachute door and all the other Nazi's fall out into the ocean. Remember Indy has been shot in the heart when he's shouting at PWB in that end part there.
Also, side note, that part when Sallah shouts to give them hell, Indy almost gets hit by a car walking into the airport because comedy?[...] >Die Glocke
What's that?
Ah, I looked up Die Glocke. No. Nothing like that. Mads is a NASA rocket scientist in the 1960's and plans to use his knowledge in the past to win the war.
Doesn't seem to be made up tho. Dial seems to be just Antikythera mechanism. Not a functional tool itself, but a kind of star compass.
The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space. The German plane fly's through a portal to some greek battle the the plane scares all the romans. It all looks so fake and shitty.
>The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space.
I mean it really seems like. Plus it was unknown for years, despite being discovered in 1901 so makes sense for them to chase it in 40s and 60s.
How the frick did mads survive the train at the start, that’s what I don’t get. I was waiting for some time travel shenanigans with his past/future self but it never happened and he doesn’t look anywhere near as old as Indy. What did I miss?
Im completely confused now.
So the Dial of Destinity isn't time machine itself but a sort of compas leading to actual time travel thing?
And the whole movie is about young Indy meeting Mads in past but escaping with something that leads to location of Dial then in 1960s they are after Indy and Indy and annoying b***h still look for Dial?
And then they somehow fly nazi plane into ancient times and then Indy wakes up at home?
WHAT THE FRICK?
Alright... Let's see how much I can remember.
The movie starts with Indy and Toby Jones captured while they were looking for the Spear of Destiny. They questioned before a bombing raid on by the English beings. Indy escapes a lynching in the top room of the Mansion.Toby is loaded onto the train with the artifacts. Indy steals a car and Nazi's get into it with him. Brief car/motorbike chase/action scene. Indy leaps onto a motorbike and rides to catch up to the train. Mads on the train notices the spear is fake but see's that the Dial of Destiny (AKA Archimedes Clock) is on board. He goes to tell his commanding officer. Indy causes a ruckus on board. He save's Toby. They end up on the roof of the train, cool fight scene. Toby accidentally shoots Indy in the arm. It ends with Indy pretending to give Mad's the dial but he is knocked off the side of the train by one of those water refueling pipes. The British bomb the train bridge and the 2 leap into the lake below. Toby says it's a shame they are going home empty handed. Indy shows Toby he still has the dial.
Jump cut to Grandpa Jones sleeping on the couch in his boxers when he is woken up by his young hippy Neighbor BLASTING the Magical Mystery Tour (by The Beatles). He goes to shout at the kids to turn it down. They tell him it's Moon Day (Astronauts are back from space). He goes back to make coffee. Looks at his divorce papers on the bench. He puts a fridge magnet over the photo of Marion he has so he doesn't have to see her face (Space Oddity it playing loud in the background now) Next day, he's teaching his class about Archimedes, none of them know anything but Phoebe is sitting in the back and she knows ALL the answers. Indy is then given a clock by his coworkers to celebrate his retirement.He fakes being thankful then goes outside and He hands the clock to some guy on the street. Indy then goes to a bar, PWB shows up.
She tells Indy who she is. Explains she's been looking at her fathers notes and believes she has figured out where the dial is in the lake. She then mistakenly says "I knew you didn't destroy it". Indy catches on she's up to something but he takes her back to his school to show her he hide it in the archives under a false bottom in one of the draws with some of her Father's notes (Toby died at some point but it's never mentioned how/when/why). AS this is happening, Mads is giving an interview in a hotel room about how he helped build the rocket to put man on the moon. The black lady is spying on PWB and says that she's with some guy (Indy). Mad's goons go to investigate. The get to Indy's school, the 8 foot tall guy is throwing paper work around and some lady asks them if they help. The Owen Wilson looking guy just shoots her. Another teacher comes over to see what's happening and he shoots him too. Black lady calls Owen a 'trigger happy cracker'. PWB then says to Indy, "thanks for the dial, byeeeeee" and she runs away as soon as Mad's goons enter. Indy pushes the archives shelves over to escape. He see's the 2 dead people. He tries to call the cops. Just is dragged into the back on a van. They question him a bit but get stuck in traffic because of the parade. The go to reverse but hit a taxi. They decided to walk instead. Indy starts to chant with some Nam protectors "hell no, we won't go". He uses the chaos to escape. He runs to a cop to try and explain. Cop gets shot by Owen. Indy jumps on the horse and rides off. Brief chase. Owen on motorbike. 8 foot dude in a red convertible with a screaming women in the passenger seat. Indy escapes into the subway. Outruns the train. Not a bad scene. Looks super fake tho. Next Indy is watching a TV in a shop window saying he's wanted for murder because people think he was the one that shot the 2 other teachers. The guy standing next to Indy recognizes him and starts to shout. He's suddenly KO'd by Sallah.
Sallah drive Indy back to his apartment. They talk for a little bit. Sallah then drives Indy to the airport because he knows of some underground auction for illegal/stolen antiques. Sallah says he misses the adventures and excitement his life used to have and asks to come with Indy. He says no. On the plane, there's a flash back to the 1950's. Indy is at Toby's house. Toby has become obsessed by the dial and trying to crack its code. Indy says he's too obsessed and he will take the dial and destroy it. Young PWB over hears this. Indy then drives away. Back to the 60's, at the auction, PWB presents she has a dial and a bunch of people start placing bets. Indy walks in and says it was stolen, cringe dialogue. Mad's walks in too. Indy vaguely remembers him from the train at the start. Indy does his whip bit and there's a scuffle for the dial. Mad's ends up with it and flees in a car. Some guy PWB owes money too shows up and starts to chase her. There's a chase scene, Mads in a car, Indy, PWB and the mustached Kid are in a Tuktuk while they are being chased by gangsters. Ends with the gangsters car not being able to fit down an alley way and Mad's getting military extracted out. The tuktuk's radiator breaks so they stop. Mad's is on a helicopter getting lectured by the black lady. She gets shot and thrown out the helicopter. PWB is bragging about how she can read some ancient language. Her main motivation for getting the dial is to sell it to pay off debts btw. Indy repairs the blown out radiator with the kids bubble gum. They then go see Antonio Banderas to help them scuba dive. The dial is only HALF of the machine and they believe the other half is in the same shipwreck the first half was. The dive in with giant tubes for air. There's a bit with eels in the shipwreck and Indy flops around underwater. They get the chest which they think has the other half. The Nazi's show up. Yank everyone out of the water.
They open the chest and inside is a wooden/wax square written in ancient text. Mad's tells Indy to read it. He refuses. So Mad's shoots Antonio. PWB says she'll do it for money. Mad's gives her a small pouch of diamonds. She then shows to Indy she has a stick of dynamite in her pocket she stole from the Antonio's draw earlier. She walks around explaining what the text says the riddle. The 2nd half of the dial was buried with Archimedes but no one knows where his tomb is. PWB is so smart and clever and she figures it all out. She asks Mad's for a drag on his cigarette and while they're talking she has her hands behind her back and gets Indy to light the fuse. She throws it at the German's, they kick it down he stairs on the boat. Indy, PWB and the kid escape onto the Nazi's boat and take off. Mad's is on the other boats deck watching them speed away. I guess the dynamite wasn't strong enough to blow a hole in the boat? PWB is all excited, Indy tells her to tone it down because he just lost a friend and he's angry the Nazi's know exactly where to go now. HOWEVER, PWB tells Indy she knows the square tablet isn't just a tablet (because she's really smart). Indy pours whiskey on it and sets fire to it. inside is a gold disc with some other instructions on it. Mad's notices they got from East to West. Indy and co arrive in Greece. While they are waiting for the tour in the caves to finish for the day, the kid gets kidnapped. Mad's just shows up. NO explanation how he figured out they were here. Indy and PWB go on without him and Indy assures PWB they won't hurt the kid. The kid tries to run away but is handcuffed to the 8 foot guy. Kid tries to pick pocket him for the key as they are crossing a small rope bridge, 8 foot guy turns to stop him, slips. they both fall into the water. Kid managed to get the key, unlocks himself, cuffs the 8 foot guy to the sewer grate and swims away. Mad's says to the rest of his crew to keep going.
Meanwhile, PWB and Indy are doing some echo location to find the loudest part of the tunnel. The entrance has caved in but they see an opening above them and climb up. There's a small tunnel with bugs they get covered in/go through. They then enter a chamber filled with methane gas. Indy tells PWB to get in the shallow pool because Archimedes was fascinated by water displacement and pulls some rocks into. Water overflows into another sink thing and the floor opens up and they slide away. Blah Archimedes tomb. They push open his coffin and see Archimedes skeleton has a wristwatch on. His skeleton is also holding the other half of the dial PWB notices engraved on Archimedes coffin is a Phoenix with propellers. Mad's enter with his grew. The kid jumps down onto one of the Nazi's brief fight. Indy gets shot in the heart. Mad's puts the dial together. It is then explained that Mad's is going to use the dial to go back to 1939 and take Hitler's place and use his NASA rocket science to win the war. FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER, 2 Nazi's take Indy with them to the airport to get on the Nazi plane with Mad's. The dial is actually a device that points to riffs in time and space. The pilots set the course. PWB and the kid show up. PWB asks the kid if he can fly the smaller plane. She hops on a motorbike and chases after the big plane. She gets on the landing gear. climbs in. Indy tells Mad's the calculations are wrong. Mad's realizes Indy is right and is too late to change the course. They get sucked into the work hole in the sky. The Kid in the small plane is following them. The plane's owner was napping in the back and wakes up and freaks out. Other side of the worm hole, its appears the plan worked. BTW Mad's and his crew all changed into full Nazi uniforms before they got on the plane for some reason. Indy see's roman ships and says they have gone back in time 2,000 years. The plane gets giant arrows shot at it. One hits the engine. Plane on fire.
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>Archimedes skeleton has a wristwatch on. His skeleton is also holding the other half of the dial PWB notices engraved on Archimedes coffin is a Phoenix with propellers.
Let me guess. Indy in ancient times gave Archimedes his dads watch? And Phoenix is german plane? Because of course time paradox.
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Owen Wilson looking guy pulls out a machine gun and starts shooting roman soldiers from the plane. PWB pulls a lever so most of the other Nazis fall out of the plane. Indy uses on of the arrows that been shot into the plane to cut himself free (Don't forget he was shot in the heart). He then grabs a parachute and grabs PWB and the float to safety. While this is going on we see Archimedes building the dial and soldiers talking about the dragon flying around (the burning plane). The Nazi plane crashes because Mad's tries to turn the plane around back to the portal. Indy (still shot in the heart) lands with PWB and Archimedes walks up to them. Them talk in ancient greek for a while. PWB knows ancient greek too because she's so smart. Archimedes hand's Indy a wrist watch the the dial from the future. They talk about how it's a fixed point and this was meant to happen or something? Idk I wasn't checked out by now. Not explained how or why Archimedes knew about the wormhole in the sky. Suddenly Indy remembers he was shot in the heart 5 hours ago and starts to die. the kid and the other pilot land. PWB begs Indy to come with her, he says no because now he can witness history first hand. She's says he can't stay because he might alter history and Indy says "Would that be so bad?" PWB say's he'll die if he stay and Indy says "I want to die". Best line in the movie because I wanted to too. PWB then knocks him out with a punch and cut to Indy waking up in his bed. A LOT was skipped over here in the movie. PWB is putting away groceries and the kid is there too. Sallah comes over with his grandkids and then Marion enters too. PWB says "lets go out for iceceam" and leave Indy and Marion alone. Awkward kiss. Some cringe dialogue. Ends with Indy's hat on the balcony blowing in the winds before he snatches in and movie ends.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Shameful
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ha ha, WOW! Looks like Lucas' revenge is finally complete. Seriously, Kennedy's films, save Rogue One, have been so disasterous that one can only imagine George picked her to take over because he knew she was utterly inept. This will probably bomb, like Solo did while TROS kinda underperformed.
People who hated Lucas (never been one of them), was Disney buying Star Wars the biggest 'devil you know/monkey's paw' scenario you ever experienced?
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Anonymous
That's really the ending? That seems bafflingly abrupt. I'm guessing there had to be a lot of truth to the reshoot rumors if it ends like that. Like maybe Indy really did die, but Iger was desperate to avoid another TLJ situation and how SW hasn't really recovered since they killed Luke so forced them to redo it without much money.
I'd love, more than anything, for some more juicy details about the bts drama for Kennedy's era of Lucasfilm.
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Anonymous
>I'd love, more than anything, for some more juicy details about the bts drama for Kennedy's era of Lucasfilm.
production drama would be great. this movie had so many changes, so many rewrites and reshots nobody knows what was it like
some rumored things that were cut or altered >neonazi military group and project die glocke >time travel between 1969, 1939, and ancient times, jumping between different eras >young indy from 1939 meets old indy from 1969 >leaked or rumored concepts arts show haunebu (german rumored ww2 ufo) and object in Ludwikowice
whole movie seemed like Wolfenstein style secret neonazi socieity and experiments with antigravity drive machines
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Anonymous
i'll bet anything the ufo etc were going to be from when Indy travels to the alt future where the Nazi's rule now like in BTTF2
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah could be
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Anonymous
One thing I've heard that's very consistent is that everyone save Rian Johnson hated Kennedy. She's utterly surrounded by yes-men (or yes women in this case), far more than Lucas ever was, and anyone who challenges her on anything gets fired. Which considering the track record of Edward, Lord and Miller, Trevorrow, etc...is likely true.
I've even heard Faverau only agreed to do the shitty Lion King remake as a favor to Iger in exchange for keeping Kennedy away from Mandalorian and that Abrams only agreed to come back for TROS if he was guaranteed creative control and protection from Kennedy that Iger promised him but later double crossed him.
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Anonymous
the lion king rumor isn't real. that's just him getting another easy paycheck after the jungle book and wanting to push the tech, as he's always interested in that sort of stuff
favs wrote the mando on spec because he hated what they did to luke in the last jedi though. he's still old school and knows how rian/kk character assassinated luke. favreau approached iger with most, if not the entire, first season of mando already written so kennedy wouldn't even have a chance at input
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>people act like grogu was some big suprise they didn't want fans to be spoiled by >in reality its because mando was a low priority and wasn't a focus for merchandise until after it was a hits
season 1 mando was so cool with how it was just considered live action rebels so no one paid it no mind until it was ahit
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Anonymous
i'll bet anything the ufo etc were going to be from when Indy travels to the alt future where the Nazi's rule now like in BTTF2
yeah could be
It looks like leaks were more interesting than final slob we got. I guess they started as neonazi/alternative history mashup and then gradually increated PWB screentime, decreased Indy's role and slowly cut 90% of neonazi content. Merged Glocke with Mads plane and used this plane for time travel instead of UFO shaped object due to Cristal Skull backlash.
Couldve been thriller scifi neonazi adventure kino but they decided to turn into safe generic copy paste recycled trash.
Pretty much, Her only motivation was to get the dial to sell it for money. Why didn't they make it she wanted to continue her fathers research or maybe she hoped you really could travel through time with it and she wanted to save her Dad from an accident or something? Jeez. Instead she a super smart, turbo b***h
She tells Indy who she is. Explains she's been looking at her fathers notes and believes she has figured out where the dial is in the lake. She then mistakenly says "I knew you didn't destroy it". Indy catches on she's up to something but he takes her back to his school to show her he hide it in the archives under a false bottom in one of the draws with some of her Father's notes (Toby died at some point but it's never mentioned how/when/why). AS this is happening, Mads is giving an interview in a hotel room about how he helped build the rocket to put man on the moon. The black lady is spying on PWB and says that she's with some guy (Indy). Mad's goons go to investigate. The get to Indy's school, the 8 foot tall guy is throwing paper work around and some lady asks them if they help. The Owen Wilson looking guy just shoots her. Another teacher comes over to see what's happening and he shoots him too. Black lady calls Owen a 'trigger happy cracker'. PWB then says to Indy, "thanks for the dial, byeeeeee" and she runs away as soon as Mad's goons enter. Indy pushes the archives shelves over to escape. He see's the 2 dead people. He tries to call the cops. Just is dragged into the back on a van. They question him a bit but get stuck in traffic because of the parade. The go to reverse but hit a taxi. They decided to walk instead. Indy starts to chant with some Nam protectors "hell no, we won't go". He uses the chaos to escape. He runs to a cop to try and explain. Cop gets shot by Owen. Indy jumps on the horse and rides off. Brief chase. Owen on motorbike. 8 foot dude in a red convertible with a screaming women in the passenger seat. Indy escapes into the subway. Outruns the train. Not a bad scene. Looks super fake tho. Next Indy is watching a TV in a shop window saying he's wanted for murder because people think he was the one that shot the 2 other teachers. The guy standing next to Indy recognizes him and starts to shout. He's suddenly KO'd by Sallah.
Sallah drive Indy back to his apartment. They talk for a little bit. Sallah then drives Indy to the airport because he knows of some underground auction for illegal/stolen antiques. Sallah says he misses the adventures and excitement his life used to have and asks to come with Indy. He says no. On the plane, there's a flash back to the 1950's. Indy is at Toby's house. Toby has become obsessed by the dial and trying to crack its code. Indy says he's too obsessed and he will take the dial and destroy it. Young PWB over hears this. Indy then drives away. Back to the 60's, at the auction, PWB presents she has a dial and a bunch of people start placing bets. Indy walks in and says it was stolen, cringe dialogue. Mad's walks in too. Indy vaguely remembers him from the train at the start. Indy does his whip bit and there's a scuffle for the dial. Mad's ends up with it and flees in a car. Some guy PWB owes money too shows up and starts to chase her. There's a chase scene, Mads in a car, Indy, PWB and the mustached Kid are in a Tuktuk while they are being chased by gangsters. Ends with the gangsters car not being able to fit down an alley way and Mad's getting military extracted out. The tuktuk's radiator breaks so they stop. Mad's is on a helicopter getting lectured by the black lady. She gets shot and thrown out the helicopter. PWB is bragging about how she can read some ancient language. Her main motivation for getting the dial is to sell it to pay off debts btw. Indy repairs the blown out radiator with the kids bubble gum. They then go see Antonio Banderas to help them scuba dive. The dial is only HALF of the machine and they believe the other half is in the same shipwreck the first half was. The dive in with giant tubes for air. There's a bit with eels in the shipwreck and Indy flops around underwater. They get the chest which they think has the other half. The Nazi's show up. Yank everyone out of the water.
They open the chest and inside is a wooden/wax square written in ancient text. Mad's tells Indy to read it. He refuses. So Mad's shoots Antonio. PWB says she'll do it for money. Mad's gives her a small pouch of diamonds. She then shows to Indy she has a stick of dynamite in her pocket she stole from the Antonio's draw earlier. She walks around explaining what the text says the riddle. The 2nd half of the dial was buried with Archimedes but no one knows where his tomb is. PWB is so smart and clever and she figures it all out. She asks Mad's for a drag on his cigarette and while they're talking she has her hands behind her back and gets Indy to light the fuse. She throws it at the German's, they kick it down he stairs on the boat. Indy, PWB and the kid escape onto the Nazi's boat and take off. Mad's is on the other boats deck watching them speed away. I guess the dynamite wasn't strong enough to blow a hole in the boat? PWB is all excited, Indy tells her to tone it down because he just lost a friend and he's angry the Nazi's know exactly where to go now. HOWEVER, PWB tells Indy she knows the square tablet isn't just a tablet (because she's really smart). Indy pours whiskey on it and sets fire to it. inside is a gold disc with some other instructions on it. Mad's notices they got from East to West. Indy and co arrive in Greece. While they are waiting for the tour in the caves to finish for the day, the kid gets kidnapped. Mad's just shows up. NO explanation how he figured out they were here. Indy and PWB go on without him and Indy assures PWB they won't hurt the kid. The kid tries to run away but is handcuffed to the 8 foot guy. Kid tries to pick pocket him for the key as they are crossing a small rope bridge, 8 foot guy turns to stop him, slips. they both fall into the water. Kid managed to get the key, unlocks himself, cuffs the 8 foot guy to the sewer grate and swims away. Mad's says to the rest of his crew to keep going.
Meanwhile, PWB and Indy are doing some echo location to find the loudest part of the tunnel. The entrance has caved in but they see an opening above them and climb up. There's a small tunnel with bugs they get covered in/go through. They then enter a chamber filled with methane gas. Indy tells PWB to get in the shallow pool because Archimedes was fascinated by water displacement and pulls some rocks into. Water overflows into another sink thing and the floor opens up and they slide away. Blah Archimedes tomb. They push open his coffin and see Archimedes skeleton has a wristwatch on. His skeleton is also holding the other half of the dial PWB notices engraved on Archimedes coffin is a Phoenix with propellers. Mad's enter with his grew. The kid jumps down onto one of the Nazi's brief fight. Indy gets shot in the heart. Mad's puts the dial together. It is then explained that Mad's is going to use the dial to go back to 1939 and take Hitler's place and use his NASA rocket science to win the war. FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER, 2 Nazi's take Indy with them to the airport to get on the Nazi plane with Mad's. The dial is actually a device that points to riffs in time and space. The pilots set the course. PWB and the kid show up. PWB asks the kid if he can fly the smaller plane. She hops on a motorbike and chases after the big plane. She gets on the landing gear. climbs in. Indy tells Mad's the calculations are wrong. Mad's realizes Indy is right and is too late to change the course. They get sucked into the work hole in the sky. The Kid in the small plane is following them. The plane's owner was napping in the back and wakes up and freaks out. Other side of the worm hole, its appears the plan worked. BTW Mad's and his crew all changed into full Nazi uniforms before they got on the plane for some reason. Indy see's roman ships and says they have gone back in time 2,000 years. The plane gets giant arrows shot at it. One hits the engine. Plane on fire.
Owen Wilson looking guy pulls out a machine gun and starts shooting roman soldiers from the plane. PWB pulls a lever so most of the other Nazis fall out of the plane. Indy uses on of the arrows that been shot into the plane to cut himself free (Don't forget he was shot in the heart). He then grabs a parachute and grabs PWB and the float to safety. While this is going on we see Archimedes building the dial and soldiers talking about the dragon flying around (the burning plane). The Nazi plane crashes because Mad's tries to turn the plane around back to the portal. Indy (still shot in the heart) lands with PWB and Archimedes walks up to them. Them talk in ancient greek for a while. PWB knows ancient greek too because she's so smart. Archimedes hand's Indy a wrist watch the the dial from the future. They talk about how it's a fixed point and this was meant to happen or something? Idk I wasn't checked out by now. Not explained how or why Archimedes knew about the wormhole in the sky. Suddenly Indy remembers he was shot in the heart 5 hours ago and starts to die. the kid and the other pilot land. PWB begs Indy to come with her, he says no because now he can witness history first hand. She's says he can't stay because he might alter history and Indy says "Would that be so bad?" PWB say's he'll die if he stay and Indy says "I want to die". Best line in the movie because I wanted to too. PWB then knocks him out with a punch and cut to Indy waking up in his bed. A LOT was skipped over here in the movie. PWB is putting away groceries and the kid is there too. Sallah comes over with his grandkids and then Marion enters too. PWB says "lets go out for iceceam" and leave Indy and Marion alone. Awkward kiss. Some cringe dialogue. Ends with Indy's hat on the balcony blowing in the winds before he snatches in and movie ends.
Thanks anon. So from your description it's literally nazi chase bullshit with one ancient tomb scene. Indiana Jones mission impossible. No ancient ruins, no exploration, no discoveries (Archimedes tomb is already well known location)
Yeah, having read the summary here and other leaks it doesn't seem like there's really any standout set-pieces or interesting exotic and/or ancient locations, aside from the opening prologue. Mads's villain doesn't even get a cool grisly death scene
>any standout set-pieces or interesting exotic and/or ancient locations
Worst offence Indiana Jones movie could do. Ark has Well of Souls deep under sands of Egypt. Temple of Doom is amazing location itself. Crusade has Venice catacombs and Petra temple. Even that dumb Skull has nice Inca tombs and Akator.
And this one? Lot of random jumps and that's all. Lame. Or maybe tomb of Archimedes at least stands out? As of now, even Tomb Raider movies with AngJo had more interesting set pieces.
dont expect them to explain anything because nothing is explained. for example when mads and his group kidnap indy and they board plane they wear nazi uniforms. somehow mads always knows indys location. he is sometimes step ahead too
Yeah, but given that he was still living in it during Crystal Skull, meaning he lived there for at least 20 years, shouldn't she be the one moving out? Then again, feminists don't give a shit about logic.
why did they pick such a boring frickin artifact? why time travel?
I'm almost 100% sure they were gonna pull off some fanservice shit but it backfired so they had to reshoot that disaster of an ending where a plane crashlands in ancient times and we cut to black to get out of it
I think I'm sick of time travel and alternate realities being used in action films. It's just played out now. Nothing really matters when you can just go back in time to rewrite history when things go wrong. It's become boring and too predictable.
>Archimedes make
the only good thing about this film would be if Archimedes made a wooden clockwork fricking mecha to rip and tear the UGLY b***h and Indiana to a pulp. And then get back to his God Tier Mathematics.
Great visuals that were simply the cosmetic cover up of a horrible film that wasted. It could have been great without the feminist bullshit and all that other stuff.
This movie's misfortune is really fun to me: >have opportunity to bring back Shortround (like Indy 4 brought back Marion) >bring on some annoying British lady instead >meanwhile, Shortround's actor makes a grandiose comeback and literally wins an Oscar
I enjoy seeing nazis, chase scenes, nazis in chases scenes, b***hing and complaining during nazi chase scenes with a new bonus character thrown in for fun.
He usually appears at the end of action seqence, says some bullshit, steals something from Indy and then they cut to next scene. Completely wasted and doesn't even have cool memorable death.
Other thread says that yes and Archimedes finds Mads nazi guy corpse and grabs his wrist watch. He invents his own clock based on this and that clock is Dial Of Destinity Indy is looking for. Also one other anon says that there is burning bird symbol on Archimedes' coffin and Romans talk about burning bird when the plane crashes. It's time travel paradox where Indy's actions lead to events in past that then are discovered by them in the present time.
Are there any attractive women in the movie? I'm just surprised that it's a cast of geriatrics and a middle aged roastie with a fricking mole on her head. Who wants a movie starring nothing but ugly old people?
So this is basically the 2016 Ghostbuster movie all over again? Old cast members returning only due to contractual obligation and clearly don't want to be there, reshoots up the ass, possibly a career killer for many involved...
Also, is PWB the female equivalent to Pauley Shore? >> Unfunny comedian who got well known due to nepotism >> Mostly a total unknown who was suddenly shoved into the spotlight out of nowhere >> Beloved by studio execs who think they're the best thing to happen to comedy in years give them multiple movies >> Movies with them in it either do okay or straight up bomb >> Only a small minority of people find them entertaining, everyone else thinks they're annoying as hell.
Yes, he is KIA in 'Nam, which causes Indy and Marion to divorce. I can understand not bringing Mutt back, Shia is notoriously a pain in the ass to work with and a total psycho, but killing him was pretty extreme.
Scrapped. Young Indy is only in retrospective scenes on train and in nazi castle. No rumored young and old Indy meeting/replacing/dying people were talking about.
We’ve known for like 2 weeks phoebe Waller bridge is awful in the film. T. Chris gore
Her motivation to get the Dial of Destiny is to sell it. Not to continue her Father's research or anything
Does she really chastise Indy for "stealing from native peoples"? That was one of the early spoilers but I couldn't tell if it was a troll or not.
Yes. She does
Sallah takes Indy to his apartment. Tells his Grandkids Indy is the man that got him out of Egypt. That's it.
Nope. Nothing like that at all.
No way. Indy actually did things in that CS
what research
they turned him into a bumbling idiot in 3
I'm still mad that they made him a moron in TLC. Shit film with some good bits, but overall a shit film.
most university researchers are
never heard of The Absent Minded Professor?
as a prof i can confirm this is the case - 90% of the people in my department are fricking useless outside of their niche areas of specialization (i'm not *much* better, but i can at least function in broader society). we had to take one of our profs off a teaching assignment last year because despite being a brilliant theorist, he was so bafflingly incompetent at practical electronics that he fried about $10K worth of equipment in the introductory lab he was teaching that semester.
Wrong character you fricking moron
I legit thought that was her father it makes more sense than some literal midget from Capitan America which makes this worse.
>hates capitalism
>her sole goal is to sell the Dial
Woman moment
>T. Chris gore
never trust that slimy homosexual
He seems like an alcoholic
>We’ve known for like 2 weeks
Anon, ever since that c**t showed up in front of a camera everyone knew she was fricking obnoxious and awful.
>we've known for 2 weeks
anon, the script leaked like 2 years ago
Why did the other thread get deleted? Are the wiener sucking mouse owned mods trying to stop leaks?
I do not know
They have spears on giant crossbows
>They have spears on giant crossbows
Ballistae, pleb
How do the romans shoot down the plane?
Ballistae
Is the divorce cancelled out by the time travel shenanigans?
No. Marion just shows up at the end because Phoebe calls her and they reenact the "It doesn't hurt here" kiss scene from the first movie
Yeah I heard she showed up and that happened, so they're still apparently getting divorced at the end? Is the divorce due to issues stemming from mutts death or if not, what is it?
Indy looks at the divorce papers at the start of the movie and then puts a fridge magnet over a photo of Marion. They divorced because she had "endless grief" from Mutt being killed in Vietnam. They reunite at the end and it's implied they get back together.
Honestly better than Rogue One. Having the entire opening set at night definitely helps hide it. You can really see how fake he is sometimes tho.
Does indy have any grief or is it just glossed over? Does he have pictures if mutt or his dad? How did they force saleh in to the story?
Indy has an emotional moment when he tells PWB he wish he could travel back in time to stop Mutt from enlisting. He's also sad when one of his other friends is shot by Mads. PWB is hooting an hollering and Indy tells her to shut up because he just lost a friend.
He mentions the watch he wearing is his Fathers at one point.
Sallah was alright. He just shows up in a cab, hangs out with his family in his apartment, then drives Indy to the airport. He asks to come with him but Indy says no.
>Sallah was alright. He just shows up in a cab, hangs out with his family in his apartment, then drives Indy to the airport.
He just shows up randomly, unconnected to the story? Is indy in Egypt or wherever or does sallah live in America now?
Indy is believed to have shot some of his co-workers in the school but it was Mads crew. So he calls Sallah for help and he picks him up. Sallah introduces Indy to his family as the guy that helped get him out of Egypt
>Sallah introduces Indy to his family as the guy that helped get him out of Egypt
Didn't indy spend time with his family in raiders?
But marion met him, and it's not like he has anyone else to introduce him to. Explain, please.
>Sallah was alright. He just shows up in a cab,
Was he the monarch of the sea in this one?
>Mutt being killed in Vietnam
Holy fricking shit. That's how they're retconing it, really?!
that's not a retcon
it's an abandoned plot
Mutt was very proficient with fighting in the jungle. HOW
He didn't die. He's MIA and presumed dead but in reality he's in the jungles of Vietnam on an adventure looking for a lost artifact.
Holy shit that’s brutal. I’m so glad Indy got to grow up and meet his estranged son just so he could die in a jungle on the other side of the world.
It's practically just pic related kek
>they reenact the "It doesn't hurt here" kiss scene from the first movie
CALLBACK! YISSSS! THEY DID A CALLBACK!
Holy fricking wall.
She's a fricking boomer dude. No shit she's fricking old.
She doesn't look bad at all for her age. She's probably hotter than most of the ugly fatties that you fricked, poojeet
She wasn’t even hot 40 years ago, dude.
sorry but yeah she was
She looked like a leather-faced lesbian.
Low T son, get that checked.
Is the de aging the best you've seen? Some pictures look alright but some look like shit.
>his eyes are looking in different directions
great cgi hollywood
All this film is about right now is how much it’s going to lose and when Kathleen Kennedy is going to be sacked because of it
Ok Doomwiener
>Kathleen Kennedy is going to be sacked because of it
kathleen kennedy is going to survive you doomwiener Black person. When you finaly kick the bucket from opiods and booze she will be nice enough to show to your funeral. And with the priest they will be the only ones there
seems a bit harsh
Kennedy should have been fired years ago, (even corporate leftists agree) and despite having MULTIPLE humiliating flops and disasters in the last year, literally nothing is happening to her. Ever.
It is the absurd thing that I’ve ever seen in Hollywood. So something more is clearly going on here. Either she’s doing exactly what the Regime wants or she has a unique contract structure that makes it difficult to release her without larger consequences. But she is a failure, and a failure who happens to be entirely free from the consequences of her own failure. It’s wild
More likely they will give her the Epstein treatment and she also dying in jail pending trial
why would she possibly go to jail? she has enough friends in spite of her failures that even if someone cooked up false charges of some kind she'd get off
>Kennedy is going to be sacked because of it
She's just got a new signing bonus for a 5 year contract. Deal with it.
Source?
Source: She knows where the bodies are buried.
Is Short Round?
Nope.
can't get a single fricking thing right with this movie
Bizarre considering he won an Oscar why couldn’t they just shoehorn a cameo? Fricking Kathleen Kennedy
On one hand he didn't win until the movie was long in the can ready to edit but on the other with how disastrous reshoots are becoming I don't see why they couldn't
>Bizarre considering he won an Oscar why couldn’t they just shoehorn a cameo?
Because Ford himself has never won an Oscar, so they cancelled Short Round's cameo due to Ford's SEETHING. As I recall, Shorty came back to film that other movie as prep for Indy since he was "rusty". Kek.
>No Short Round
What a waste. He'd be the perfect guy to pick up the mantle(hat) after Harrison Ford
any cool ancient ruins or its 80% all out nazi chase crap?
You know the answer already. They think le nazis bad is more important
How much is indy cucked and humiliated throughout? Does he get any moments where he shines?
Totally cucked, like Luke in The Last Jedi.
The opening in the 1930's is great. Real Indy action. Once that's over it's all down hill. PWB basically takes over and refers to it as her adventure.
>Her adventure
>HERStory, not HIStory
I’m not seeing this unless it bombs.
>unless it bombs.
Why would you see it at all?
She looks like that Peep Show guy in drag. Surely someone in the UK has pointed that out by now?
oh, frick. she really does
I can't unsee that
zero magnetism, charisma, presence a nothing. Ugly far below average graceless nobody.
>Ugly far below average graceless nobody.
Therefore non-threatening to women
this is literal vomit. This is emetically unbelievably bad. This ugly thing would even not be an extra in a toilet paper advertisement.
This is disgusting and disgust itself.
nuke usa as soon as possible, nuke uk as soon as possible.
This is a dried up chunk of vomit. Vomit. Die.
Eugenics now, eradicate this gene sequence and disintegrate her and her entire bloodline.
neo British "humor"
troony lookin b***h
ugly-ass c**t.
Still rape.
looks like fran from black books
fricking hack
So we're supposed to believe Archimedes invented a time travel device? Is it true it just takes them back to one particular battle? Is the ancient world stuff done well?
The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space. The German plane fly's through a portal to some greek battle the the plane scares all the romans. It all looks so fake and shitty.
>The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space
Is that all you get for about explanation? So it's basically just magic? Does indy end up back in ancient Greece? I wasn't expecting much from this but it sounds worse than I was expecting. How did the audience react?
They keep saying in the movie it's not magic, it's maths. The goal of Mads is to travel back in time to 1939 to take over from Hitler and use his rocket science knowledge to win the war. Indy figures out it's impossible that Archimedes knew about continental drift so the calculations are wrong and they end up in Ancient Greece. PWB says that it's a fixed point and Archimedes made the device to call for help from the future. They talk to him in ancient greek for a while about he great he is. Indy meanwhile has been shot in the chest and has been bleeding this whole time. He insists on staying but PWB punches him out and he wakes up back home. Just2Good was tails the German plane in a smaller plane that the Italian(?) pilot was sleeping in. She literally punches him out. Cuts to black. He wakes up in bed. Marion comes in. Sallah comes in with a bunch of kids . Every one leaves and Grandpa and Grandma awkwardly kiss. The end.
Audience was silent the entire movie. not even a laugh.
Sallah has grandkids now. Maybe Indy hadn't met them yet
>Just2Good
I thought that was just a meme. Is that what the little mutt is actually called in the movie? Did you get tickets to an advanced screening or was it a media thing? I know Harrison Ford was locked in to this movie years ago but it sounds like him and the character are both humiliated by this movie. I'm surprised how happy he looked at the official opening, although he never shit talks his own movies. George looked like he knew it was complete shit, at least they can't blame it on him this time.
>She literally punches him out. Cuts to black. He wakes up in bed
That sounds like where the reshoot comes in. There was probably a "passing the torch" scene, but instead they just fade to black and cut to the new ending.
there was a scene as recent as the last test screening where the girl says "indy isn't your real name" and indy says how its actually the dogs name, so she says "so anyone can be indiana jones" or something to that effect, and indy just says I guess, and then he walks away as they focus on her guess they realized no one liked her and cut it
>anyone can be Indiana Jones
Not Short Round apparently, frick Spielberg for leaving him out of KOTC and frick Kennedy for this time too
it's actually good that short round dodged both these bullets because obviously he remains unscathed and 2) it just makes him a cool side adventure character on indy's journeys
short round coming back would be some memberberries bullshit
no it wouldn't Indy essentially adopted him
>They keep saying in the movie it's not magic, it's maths. The goal of Mads is to travel back in time to 1939 to take over from Hitler and use his rocket science knowledge to win the war. Indy figures out it's impossible that Archimedes knew about continental drift so the calculations are wrong and they end up in Ancient Greece. PWB says that it's a fixed point and Archimedes made the device to call for help from the future. They talk to him in ancient greek for a while about he great he is. Indy meanwhile has been shot in the chest and has been bleeding this whole time. He insists on staying but PWB punches him out and he wakes up back home
this is a fricking disaster holy shit
Haha you could take a dump of shit in the toilet better than this script
>They keep saying in the movie it's not magic, it's maths
when the frick did these NERDS take control of the franchise? jesus CHRIST
yeah bro, the ark of the covenant is opened and a big light comes in that melts everyone's faces off, then a scientist comes in to say it's not the holy light of god it's actually just physics lmao
FRICK YOU
these dorks should go back to writing Star Wars, they have no idea what they're fkn doing
aka soulless nuIndy
I wonder how the original ending even got approved in the first place and how the hell did they approve this one?
Unironically it's like they said "frick it"
kennedy must have the dirt on everybody at disney
just the rumors of the original ending that they changed alone, absolute queen of "not getting it"
She's been around since the original movies, so she's basically immune to being fired.
she served coffee to george lucas and steven spielberg back in the day and shes a israelite, so shes basically royalty
oh my heckin' SCIENCE
>it's not magic, it's maths
why do they keep doing this? the MCU did it too at first
Magic is seen as a cheap explanation
Arthur C Clarke did it before MCU
>continental drift
It's not like Archimedes was born 50 million years ago. The continents haven't drifted that much for the past 100 thousand years, let alone 3 thousand years.
The Jurassic World Dominion of 2023. Just awful, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
God yes, Fallen Kingdom was way better and people hated that movie too.
Here's something else that pissed me off. Mads had this 8 foot muscle man to do his dirty work for him and he doesn't even get a big over the top death like all the other dudes do in the other movies.
There's another henceman that looks like Owen Wilson from Bottle Rocket too. A black lady (also part of Mads team for some reason) calls him a 'trigger happy cracker'
>A black lady (also part of Mads team for some reason) calls him a 'trigger happy cracker'
Afro b***h from the poster I assume.
Jesus christ
> There's another henceman that looks like Owen Wilson from Bottle Rocket too
Kek, good call. He’s been in trailers though.
The guy from narcos or someone else?
Wait so the Nazis have their diversity hires too? Jesus frickin Christ we’re in a strange times
It's the same problem with people attempting to make the empire diverse, when you have the bad guys completely acting out doubleplus good politics, it just undercuts your portrayal of them as evil
So basically the next Indy movie will have a fully cgi Indy.
After that point they can keep making them forever.
/puts head in hands
I wish there was a pill I could take that would make me forget everything these evil fricking bastards have done to my childhood.
You just never pay for any of it again. I decided disney would never get another cent from me after tfa.
Similar here after TFA but I bought all SW games from the PS2 gen on my PS4 and One in case Lucasarts removes them. Republic Commando is GOAT
They're doing it to upset you and others like you. The only way to fight back is to stop caring. They can't ruin old movies just because they have a legal right to use the same character names. It's just deliberately bad fan fiction.
>They can't ruin old movies
There's a recent trend to censor/filter old scenes/pages from movies/books deemed inappropriate for modern age. Give a few year and they will turn to editing instead. In fact it already happened for Roald Dahl's books.
That's why you need to torrent and save shit before they edit everything they don't like out of existence. I heard they were editing Goosebumps books a while back.
Wait until unedited footages are deemed illegal
>anon's son reports anon to the Kino Regulation Department because of 10 seconds of uncensored hetero sex scene on a VHS
>he has to work the popcorn mine for the rest of his life
Oh yeah really recent trend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonfire_of_the_vanities#:~:text=The%20phrase%20itself%20usually%20refers,of%20Shrove%20Tuesday%2C%20marted%C3%AD%20grasso.
Calm down, you actually live in an incredible time to be alive and have it easier than almost any other generation that came before.
If you honestly think censorship will stop you from watching classics, torrent them and hold onto your copy forever.
my heckin childhood is ruined!
>/puts head in hands
frick off c**t
Bro the future will be nothing but AI rehashes of 20th century intellectual property
The worst thing is the studios will maintain their supremacy by cracking down on amateur AI creators
Generating your own Mickey Mouse cartoon will be punished just as harshly as possessing child porn
Worthwhile filmmaking for the mass audience appears to have been a 20th century art form that the 21st century has been unable to continue.
If these tools remain accessible to the public, this is nothing but a good thing for us. You’ll be able to input a prompt like “give me a 10 season show based on the main 10 book Malazan storyline” and receive a fully rendered, photorealistic adaptation of the request, done with more accuracy and detail than any human is capable. Hollywood will become completely irrelevant.
Lmao AI pajeets are completely delusional.
female led franchises are forgettable
by this time next year we will be remoralized with proper Indiana Jones and the Solar Pyramids of the Mayans
think fully AI generated and only 1 young woman side character and her good looks and cleavage matter to the story.
You dumb AI worshipping fricks seem to think that accuracy and detail are what make an entertaining show. Unironically if you want the most accurate adaptation of a book why do you want an adaptation at all?
Show an AI script that is actually any good, that actually surprises, that actually does something non derivative of the most milktoast writing available.
>nothing but AI rehashes of 20th century intellectual property
add; Dumbed down as frick in order to make everyone have an IQ of a heavily used doorknob.
Well, in this case it works because Indy is supposed to have had thousands of adventures...
I reckon some future cgi movies might me good if the writing and directing is good...
Why did you hurt yourself like this, OP? Seek help. There are people who care about you.
I gots to know. Plus now you now not to see it.
I keep referring to the kid as Just2Good because he looks just like it. Afro/curly hair. Dirty mustache.
Look at them.
That's Antonio Banderas on the left btw
I think less of you as a man for giving this shit show your money. Do better.
It hasn't even opened yet, the ticket was obviously free, uncle Philly.
Nope, it's live in the timezones that are ahead of you mate.
I thought it wasn't coming out until the 31st, my mistake
No shame in not paying attention to shitty slop releases, brother.
I stopped going to the movies years ago. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I went back for Macerick and Way Of Water. I enjoyed both immensely.
I still go for midnight showings of older films. Saw kiki's delivery service and Goodfellas this month.
oh shit are you from the Future?
I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of OP as a man just fricking plummeted.
I'm gonna see it (for free!) just to hatewatch. If it's going to be mindbendingly bad then I want to have been there when it happened. Normally when I watch shit knowing I'm watching shit I just turn my brain off and try to enjoy it, but this time I'm ready to fume in seat for two hours straight. Will try to keep an open mind anyway though, but I am prepared.
I'm in NZ and checked my local kinoplex to see how the screenings are doing. Pretty lacklustre, not as bad as little mudmaid but not good. Let me put it this way, they haven't kicked Flash off the imax screen for Indy yet.
they're doing multiple smaller theatres at the same time, devoting the adult recliner and wine theatres to it so it seems like they're expecting an older crowd.
There are still plenty of seats for the screenings starting in 15 mins, there's another 2 theatres doing Indy screenings in 45 mins and they're not even 20% booked.
They’ll keep Little Mermaid, Flash and Dial of Destiny as long as humanly possible on screens even though theatres are gonna be practically empty by next week. This is absolutely the shittiest summer season not counting Covid years
Does Indy die in this?
Yeah a little bit inside.
No. But he is shot in the chest near the end it and seems like he could. It's not enough to stop him from parachuting from a crashing German plane tho.
Real Sisu hours.
This is how you can tell there were lots of re-shoots.
When things like this don’t add up, it’s because different scenes were added after shooting had wrapped, including the entire ending.
Why would they shoot a man before parachuting him out of a plane?
His dignity does
dead to me
they did reshoots so he doesn't
are le nazis le bad?
There was a trailer for Oppenheimer before the movie actually.
>Cross eyed Indy
Nice screen grab OP, that’s pretty sweet timing
That part where he shot a fat white guy in a red cap from behind while muttering "I've been killing nazis my entire life and I won't stop" is cringe tbqh
Some of the leaks said there is a second younger Indy from the past that joins them? Is that true?
Who cares
>They drug out Indiana Jones' corpse just to make yet another 'did you know the natzis were le bad' movie
In these unprecedented times, with antisemitism on the rise, it's a more important message than ever.
It's only going to make people resent *jews more.
Antisemitism exist because of israelites' actions, Black person
Antisemitism and reactionary politics would have no reason to exist if it weren't for israeli tricks.
nazis are excellent enemies
>According to the article, part of the reason this movie got so much funding is because anti-nazi media isn't working anymore on new generations
This time it'll work for sure!
>anti-nazi media isn't working anymore on new generations
Turns out zoomies don't give a shit about 100 year old events. Once Napoleon was the Hitler of his day.
I'm pretty sure zoomers are going to like the Nazi aesthetic even more now.
Why is everything israelites do so fricking ill thought-out.
>I'm pretty sure zoomers are going to like the Nazi aesthetic even more now.
Can you blame them? Mads ioutfit looks just perfect.
It's so blatantly fanservicey, it's hard to believe they're actually trying to say "muh Nazis bad".
It just makes his whole look extremely aesthetic and powerful.
so this guy was right all along?
To be fair, they were horrible, awful people.
Is it better than Crystal Skull?
its even worse!
Crystall skull while bad was inoffensive (and end his story on a happy note) this movie exists solely to shit on indy
why did Sallah had to flee from Egypt? was he a supporter of King Farouk?
It's not explained.
Backed the wrong horse during the Suez Crisis.
He committed a week's worth of war crimes in the Six Day War and had to escape justice
Hold up..so does Mads get pwned at the end? henchmen wiped out?
When the German plane goes back in time to Ancient Greece its shot down with giant metal arrows. Mads stays in the plane when it crashes.
He stayed in the plane because Indy took the last parachute and he grabs PWB and they float to safety (All while Indy has been shot in the heart)
Trailer scene?
There’s been constant reshoots on this don’t trust any trailers
I mean this plane scene at the end here.
That's pretty much it. PWB pulled open the bomb bay/parachute door and all the other Nazi's fall out into the ocean. Remember Indy has been shot in the heart when he's shouting at PWB in that end part there.
Also, side note, that part when Sallah shouts to give them hell, Indy almost gets hit by a car walking into the airport because comedy?
>Die Glocke
What's that?
>>Die Glocke
>What's that?
Rumored nazi experiment, also known as Haunebu. Basically hypothetical experimental vehicle, possibly anti gravitational or even reality bending/interdiamensional UFO style thing.
Wow..so mid. This movie is cursed. I was hoping he was gonna get eaten by a dinosaur or something
Okay, Grug. I'm going to have to ask you to do something really hard: can you explain to me what the meaning of "Just2Good" is?
I'm not current on moronspeak.
Right here, Pal
Absolutely dysgenic
So time travel confirmed? What a bullshit. I thought young Indy deaging was only for opening retrospective like in Last Crusade.
Also what about Die Glocke and other rumors?
Ah, I looked up Die Glocke. No. Nothing like that. Mads is a NASA rocket scientist in the 1960's and plans to use his knowledge in the past to win the war.
>no Glocke
Shame, I really wanted to see this. Im living near to areas where nazi were supposed to work on it. It a big local urban legend.
nah bro, its way more cool to have a made up artifact that has no bearing on actual historical myth for the film.
Doesn't seem to be made up tho. Dial seems to be just Antikythera mechanism. Not a functional tool itself, but a kind of star compass.
>The dial of destiny isn't actually a time traveling machine it's self. But a compass to riffs in time and space.
I mean it really seems like. Plus it was unknown for years, despite being discovered in 1901 so makes sense for them to chase it in 40s and 60s.
>Doesn't seem to be made up tho
have a nice day shill
>Mads is a NASA rocket scientist in the 1960
So, Von Braun
How the frick did mads survive the train at the start, that’s what I don’t get. I was waiting for some time travel shenanigans with his past/future self but it never happened and he doesn’t look anywhere near as old as Indy. What did I miss?
The original leak with Indy staying in the past was more kino than this
Killing off Mutt just seems so mean spirited
spielberg and ford were really pissed that Shia shit on the film before release
What did he say?
Yeah, could they not just say that he got into a good college in Europe or some shit?
Im completely confused now.
So the Dial of Destinity isn't time machine itself but a sort of compas leading to actual time travel thing?
And the whole movie is about young Indy meeting Mads in past but escaping with something that leads to location of Dial then in 1960s they are after Indy and Indy and annoying b***h still look for Dial?
And then they somehow fly nazi plane into ancient times and then Indy wakes up at home?
WHAT THE FRICK?
Oh and theres Archimedes shoehorned in because reasons?
Alright... Let's see how much I can remember.
The movie starts with Indy and Toby Jones captured while they were looking for the Spear of Destiny. They questioned before a bombing raid on by the English beings. Indy escapes a lynching in the top room of the Mansion.Toby is loaded onto the train with the artifacts. Indy steals a car and Nazi's get into it with him. Brief car/motorbike chase/action scene. Indy leaps onto a motorbike and rides to catch up to the train. Mads on the train notices the spear is fake but see's that the Dial of Destiny (AKA Archimedes Clock) is on board. He goes to tell his commanding officer. Indy causes a ruckus on board. He save's Toby. They end up on the roof of the train, cool fight scene. Toby accidentally shoots Indy in the arm. It ends with Indy pretending to give Mad's the dial but he is knocked off the side of the train by one of those water refueling pipes. The British bomb the train bridge and the 2 leap into the lake below. Toby says it's a shame they are going home empty handed. Indy shows Toby he still has the dial.
Jump cut to Grandpa Jones sleeping on the couch in his boxers when he is woken up by his young hippy Neighbor BLASTING the Magical Mystery Tour (by The Beatles). He goes to shout at the kids to turn it down. They tell him it's Moon Day (Astronauts are back from space). He goes back to make coffee. Looks at his divorce papers on the bench. He puts a fridge magnet over the photo of Marion he has so he doesn't have to see her face (Space Oddity it playing loud in the background now) Next day, he's teaching his class about Archimedes, none of them know anything but Phoebe is sitting in the back and she knows ALL the answers. Indy is then given a clock by his coworkers to celebrate his retirement.He fakes being thankful then goes outside and He hands the clock to some guy on the street. Indy then goes to a bar, PWB shows up.
She tells Indy who she is. Explains she's been looking at her fathers notes and believes she has figured out where the dial is in the lake. She then mistakenly says "I knew you didn't destroy it". Indy catches on she's up to something but he takes her back to his school to show her he hide it in the archives under a false bottom in one of the draws with some of her Father's notes (Toby died at some point but it's never mentioned how/when/why). AS this is happening, Mads is giving an interview in a hotel room about how he helped build the rocket to put man on the moon. The black lady is spying on PWB and says that she's with some guy (Indy). Mad's goons go to investigate. The get to Indy's school, the 8 foot tall guy is throwing paper work around and some lady asks them if they help. The Owen Wilson looking guy just shoots her. Another teacher comes over to see what's happening and he shoots him too. Black lady calls Owen a 'trigger happy cracker'. PWB then says to Indy, "thanks for the dial, byeeeeee" and she runs away as soon as Mad's goons enter. Indy pushes the archives shelves over to escape. He see's the 2 dead people. He tries to call the cops. Just is dragged into the back on a van. They question him a bit but get stuck in traffic because of the parade. The go to reverse but hit a taxi. They decided to walk instead. Indy starts to chant with some Nam protectors "hell no, we won't go". He uses the chaos to escape. He runs to a cop to try and explain. Cop gets shot by Owen. Indy jumps on the horse and rides off. Brief chase. Owen on motorbike. 8 foot dude in a red convertible with a screaming women in the passenger seat. Indy escapes into the subway. Outruns the train. Not a bad scene. Looks super fake tho. Next Indy is watching a TV in a shop window saying he's wanted for murder because people think he was the one that shot the 2 other teachers. The guy standing next to Indy recognizes him and starts to shout. He's suddenly KO'd by Sallah.
Sallah drive Indy back to his apartment. They talk for a little bit. Sallah then drives Indy to the airport because he knows of some underground auction for illegal/stolen antiques. Sallah says he misses the adventures and excitement his life used to have and asks to come with Indy. He says no. On the plane, there's a flash back to the 1950's. Indy is at Toby's house. Toby has become obsessed by the dial and trying to crack its code. Indy says he's too obsessed and he will take the dial and destroy it. Young PWB over hears this. Indy then drives away. Back to the 60's, at the auction, PWB presents she has a dial and a bunch of people start placing bets. Indy walks in and says it was stolen, cringe dialogue. Mad's walks in too. Indy vaguely remembers him from the train at the start. Indy does his whip bit and there's a scuffle for the dial. Mad's ends up with it and flees in a car. Some guy PWB owes money too shows up and starts to chase her. There's a chase scene, Mads in a car, Indy, PWB and the mustached Kid are in a Tuktuk while they are being chased by gangsters. Ends with the gangsters car not being able to fit down an alley way and Mad's getting military extracted out. The tuktuk's radiator breaks so they stop. Mad's is on a helicopter getting lectured by the black lady. She gets shot and thrown out the helicopter. PWB is bragging about how she can read some ancient language. Her main motivation for getting the dial is to sell it to pay off debts btw. Indy repairs the blown out radiator with the kids bubble gum. They then go see Antonio Banderas to help them scuba dive. The dial is only HALF of the machine and they believe the other half is in the same shipwreck the first half was. The dive in with giant tubes for air. There's a bit with eels in the shipwreck and Indy flops around underwater. They get the chest which they think has the other half. The Nazi's show up. Yank everyone out of the water.
They open the chest and inside is a wooden/wax square written in ancient text. Mad's tells Indy to read it. He refuses. So Mad's shoots Antonio. PWB says she'll do it for money. Mad's gives her a small pouch of diamonds. She then shows to Indy she has a stick of dynamite in her pocket she stole from the Antonio's draw earlier. She walks around explaining what the text says the riddle. The 2nd half of the dial was buried with Archimedes but no one knows where his tomb is. PWB is so smart and clever and she figures it all out. She asks Mad's for a drag on his cigarette and while they're talking she has her hands behind her back and gets Indy to light the fuse. She throws it at the German's, they kick it down he stairs on the boat. Indy, PWB and the kid escape onto the Nazi's boat and take off. Mad's is on the other boats deck watching them speed away. I guess the dynamite wasn't strong enough to blow a hole in the boat? PWB is all excited, Indy tells her to tone it down because he just lost a friend and he's angry the Nazi's know exactly where to go now. HOWEVER, PWB tells Indy she knows the square tablet isn't just a tablet (because she's really smart). Indy pours whiskey on it and sets fire to it. inside is a gold disc with some other instructions on it. Mad's notices they got from East to West. Indy and co arrive in Greece. While they are waiting for the tour in the caves to finish for the day, the kid gets kidnapped. Mad's just shows up. NO explanation how he figured out they were here. Indy and PWB go on without him and Indy assures PWB they won't hurt the kid. The kid tries to run away but is handcuffed to the 8 foot guy. Kid tries to pick pocket him for the key as they are crossing a small rope bridge, 8 foot guy turns to stop him, slips. they both fall into the water. Kid managed to get the key, unlocks himself, cuffs the 8 foot guy to the sewer grate and swims away. Mad's says to the rest of his crew to keep going.
Meanwhile, PWB and Indy are doing some echo location to find the loudest part of the tunnel. The entrance has caved in but they see an opening above them and climb up. There's a small tunnel with bugs they get covered in/go through. They then enter a chamber filled with methane gas. Indy tells PWB to get in the shallow pool because Archimedes was fascinated by water displacement and pulls some rocks into. Water overflows into another sink thing and the floor opens up and they slide away. Blah Archimedes tomb. They push open his coffin and see Archimedes skeleton has a wristwatch on. His skeleton is also holding the other half of the dial PWB notices engraved on Archimedes coffin is a Phoenix with propellers. Mad's enter with his grew. The kid jumps down onto one of the Nazi's brief fight. Indy gets shot in the heart. Mad's puts the dial together. It is then explained that Mad's is going to use the dial to go back to 1939 and take Hitler's place and use his NASA rocket science to win the war. FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER, 2 Nazi's take Indy with them to the airport to get on the Nazi plane with Mad's. The dial is actually a device that points to riffs in time and space. The pilots set the course. PWB and the kid show up. PWB asks the kid if he can fly the smaller plane. She hops on a motorbike and chases after the big plane. She gets on the landing gear. climbs in. Indy tells Mad's the calculations are wrong. Mad's realizes Indy is right and is too late to change the course. They get sucked into the work hole in the sky. The Kid in the small plane is following them. The plane's owner was napping in the back and wakes up and freaks out. Other side of the worm hole, its appears the plan worked. BTW Mad's and his crew all changed into full Nazi uniforms before they got on the plane for some reason. Indy see's roman ships and says they have gone back in time 2,000 years. The plane gets giant arrows shot at it. One hits the engine. Plane on fire.
>Archimedes skeleton has a wristwatch on. His skeleton is also holding the other half of the dial PWB notices engraved on Archimedes coffin is a Phoenix with propellers.
Let me guess. Indy in ancient times gave Archimedes his dads watch? And Phoenix is german plane? Because of course time paradox.
Owen Wilson looking guy pulls out a machine gun and starts shooting roman soldiers from the plane. PWB pulls a lever so most of the other Nazis fall out of the plane. Indy uses on of the arrows that been shot into the plane to cut himself free (Don't forget he was shot in the heart). He then grabs a parachute and grabs PWB and the float to safety. While this is going on we see Archimedes building the dial and soldiers talking about the dragon flying around (the burning plane). The Nazi plane crashes because Mad's tries to turn the plane around back to the portal. Indy (still shot in the heart) lands with PWB and Archimedes walks up to them. Them talk in ancient greek for a while. PWB knows ancient greek too because she's so smart. Archimedes hand's Indy a wrist watch the the dial from the future. They talk about how it's a fixed point and this was meant to happen or something? Idk I wasn't checked out by now. Not explained how or why Archimedes knew about the wormhole in the sky. Suddenly Indy remembers he was shot in the heart 5 hours ago and starts to die. the kid and the other pilot land. PWB begs Indy to come with her, he says no because now he can witness history first hand. She's says he can't stay because he might alter history and Indy says "Would that be so bad?" PWB say's he'll die if he stay and Indy says "I want to die". Best line in the movie because I wanted to too. PWB then knocks him out with a punch and cut to Indy waking up in his bed. A LOT was skipped over here in the movie. PWB is putting away groceries and the kid is there too. Sallah comes over with his grandkids and then Marion enters too. PWB says "lets go out for iceceam" and leave Indy and Marion alone. Awkward kiss. Some cringe dialogue. Ends with Indy's hat on the balcony blowing in the winds before he snatches in and movie ends.
Shameful
Ha ha, WOW! Looks like Lucas' revenge is finally complete. Seriously, Kennedy's films, save Rogue One, have been so disasterous that one can only imagine George picked her to take over because he knew she was utterly inept. This will probably bomb, like Solo did while TROS kinda underperformed.
People who hated Lucas (never been one of them), was Disney buying Star Wars the biggest 'devil you know/monkey's paw' scenario you ever experienced?
That's really the ending? That seems bafflingly abrupt. I'm guessing there had to be a lot of truth to the reshoot rumors if it ends like that. Like maybe Indy really did die, but Iger was desperate to avoid another TLJ situation and how SW hasn't really recovered since they killed Luke so forced them to redo it without much money.
I'd love, more than anything, for some more juicy details about the bts drama for Kennedy's era of Lucasfilm.
>I'd love, more than anything, for some more juicy details about the bts drama for Kennedy's era of Lucasfilm.
production drama would be great. this movie had so many changes, so many rewrites and reshots nobody knows what was it like
some rumored things that were cut or altered
>neonazi military group and project die glocke
>time travel between 1969, 1939, and ancient times, jumping between different eras
>young indy from 1939 meets old indy from 1969
>leaked or rumored concepts arts show haunebu (german rumored ww2 ufo) and object in Ludwikowice
whole movie seemed like Wolfenstein style secret neonazi socieity and experiments with antigravity drive machines
i'll bet anything the ufo etc were going to be from when Indy travels to the alt future where the Nazi's rule now like in BTTF2
yeah could be
One thing I've heard that's very consistent is that everyone save Rian Johnson hated Kennedy. She's utterly surrounded by yes-men (or yes women in this case), far more than Lucas ever was, and anyone who challenges her on anything gets fired. Which considering the track record of Edward, Lord and Miller, Trevorrow, etc...is likely true.
I've even heard Faverau only agreed to do the shitty Lion King remake as a favor to Iger in exchange for keeping Kennedy away from Mandalorian and that Abrams only agreed to come back for TROS if he was guaranteed creative control and protection from Kennedy that Iger promised him but later double crossed him.
the lion king rumor isn't real. that's just him getting another easy paycheck after the jungle book and wanting to push the tech, as he's always interested in that sort of stuff
favs wrote the mando on spec because he hated what they did to luke in the last jedi though. he's still old school and knows how rian/kk character assassinated luke. favreau approached iger with most, if not the entire, first season of mando already written so kennedy wouldn't even have a chance at input
>people act like grogu was some big suprise they didn't want fans to be spoiled by
>in reality its because mando was a low priority and wasn't a focus for merchandise until after it was a hits
season 1 mando was so cool with how it was just considered live action rebels so no one paid it no mind until it was ahit
It looks like leaks were more interesting than final slob we got. I guess they started as neonazi/alternative history mashup and then gradually increated PWB screentime, decreased Indy's role and slowly cut 90% of neonazi content. Merged Glocke with Mads plane and used this plane for time travel instead of UFO shaped object due to Cristal Skull backlash.
Couldve been thriller scifi neonazi adventure kino but they decided to turn into safe generic copy paste recycled trash.
Why would you shoot a woman before throwing her out of a helicopter?
Because she's a Black person. Never relax.
>PWB then says to Indy, "thanks for the dial, byeeeeee"
For real?
Pretty much, Her only motivation was to get the dial to sell it for money. Why didn't they make it she wanted to continue her fathers research or maybe she hoped you really could travel through time with it and she wanted to save her Dad from an accident or something? Jeez. Instead she a super smart, turbo b***h
But does she actual pull an oboxuous "byyyeeeeee sister" like she's a tiktoker?
Oh, no, Sorry. That was a slight exaggeration.
>The Owen Wilson looking guy just shoots her.
>Another teacher comes over to see what's happening and he shoots him too.
beyond parody
Thanks anon. So from your description it's literally nazi chase bullshit with one ancient tomb scene. Indiana Jones mission impossible. No ancient ruins, no exploration, no discoveries (Archimedes tomb is already well known location)
Yeah, having read the summary here and other leaks it doesn't seem like there's really any standout set-pieces or interesting exotic and/or ancient locations, aside from the opening prologue. Mads's villain doesn't even get a cool grisly death scene
>America
>Morocco
>Sicily
This is pretty dogshit. Remember when these movies brought you exotic locations?
Like a temple in the middle of the Jungle. Or colonial-era Shanghai.
>any standout set-pieces or interesting exotic and/or ancient locations
Worst offence Indiana Jones movie could do. Ark has Well of Souls deep under sands of Egypt. Temple of Doom is amazing location itself. Crusade has Venice catacombs and Petra temple. Even that dumb Skull has nice Inca tombs and Akator.
And this one? Lot of random jumps and that's all. Lame. Or maybe tomb of Archimedes at least stands out? As of now, even Tomb Raider movies with AngJo had more interesting set pieces.
Wait, does Indy live in a crappy apartment? What happened to his house or do they not explain?
maybe an apartment in New York is more expensive than a house in Connecticut
dont expect them to explain anything because nothing is explained. for example when mads and his group kidnap indy and they board plane they wear nazi uniforms. somehow mads always knows indys location. he is sometimes step ahead too
Marion is probably in the house, Indy's apartment is due to the separation
Yeah, but given that he was still living in it during Crystal Skull, meaning he lived there for at least 20 years, shouldn't she be the one moving out? Then again, feminists don't give a shit about logic.
why did they pick such a boring frickin artifact? why time travel?
I'm almost 100% sure they were gonna pull off some fanservice shit but it backfired so they had to reshoot that disaster of an ending where a plane crashlands in ancient times and we cut to black to get out of it
>why time travel?
because the fan made radio show proved time travel was a compelling story that could hide a great deal of contrivances.
>Phoebe Waller-Bridge is annoying
I've never watched anything with her in it and I can tell she's annoying as frick
I think I'm sick of time travel and alternate realities being used in action films. It's just played out now. Nothing really matters when you can just go back in time to rewrite history when things go wrong. It's become boring and too predictable.
it’s lazy as frick
honestly i prefer the original leak 3rd act over this bs
Brehs, here's a novel idea: keep Indiana Jones young and in the 1930's.
Did Archimedes make the time rift? How does it always go back to his time?
>Archimedes make
the only good thing about this film would be if Archimedes made a wooden clockwork fricking mecha to rip and tear the UGLY b***h and Indiana to a pulp. And then get back to his God Tier Mathematics.
Is it true?
Its Mad Max Fury Road, now with Indiana getting sidelined.
Fury Road was dope THOUGH
Great visuals that were simply the cosmetic cover up of a horrible film that wasted. It could have been great without the feminist bullshit and all that other stuff.
Frick off, you exaggerating gay.
You suck and Fury Road is still great.
Accurate. Top shelf style over bargain basement substance.
how long before the camrip?
This movie's misfortune is really fun to me:
>have opportunity to bring back Shortround (like Indy 4 brought back Marion)
>bring on some annoying British lady instead
>meanwhile, Shortround's actor makes a grandiose comeback and literally wins an Oscar
I enjoy seeing nazis, chase scenes, nazis in chases scenes, b***hing and complaining during nazi chase scenes with a new bonus character thrown in for fun.
Well, that's all I got. I encourage you all to not see this and to tell everyone you know to not see it. Thank you all and Goodnight.
I only care about Mads, how much screen time does he get?
He usually appears at the end of action seqence, says some bullshit, steals something from Indy and then they cut to next scene. Completely wasted and doesn't even have cool memorable death.
Frick this moronic movie and everyone who thought it was a good idea. What a waste of his talent and time.
Wait are you serious? There isn’t a gratuitous death scene in an Indiana Jones movies? They really did sand off all the edges, thanks Disney
He dies in plane crash in fall background.
It’s not excessively gruesome or anything?
You do see his dead body like Gus from breaking bad
How did the Romans shot a plane out of the sky? Ballista's good but it's not that good.
Power of Math was on their side.
I'm not military expert. They shoot spears out of something like a huge crossbow.
they were Romans n shiet baby
Are there any scenes of younger Indiana Jones because there are promo pictures that show him? Was that just cut out?
How does Von Braun guy die? Plane explosion? Or something else? Any cool death? Are there any 'melting face' moments?
read the thread Black person
no, just tell me
Indy whips his balls.
So what was that stuff with the boulders in the trailer? More cut shit, when they travelled through time?
so does the plane get shot down by Romans????
Other thread says that yes and Archimedes finds Mads nazi guy corpse and grabs his wrist watch. He invents his own clock based on this and that clock is Dial Of Destinity Indy is looking for. Also one other anon says that there is burning bird symbol on Archimedes' coffin and Romans talk about burning bird when the plane crashes. It's time travel paradox where Indy's actions lead to events in past that then are discovered by them in the present time.
time travel plots nowadays are the ultimate sign of creative bankruptcy
can't wait for this one to be forgotten in a month
clips
https://twitter.com/jvdgeld/status/1674089028746919936
https://twitter.com/jvdgeld/status/1674050615188549632
Indiana Jones and the Cherokee Drum would be a good one. I’d prefer that to a Star Trek plotline.
Indy is old enough he could be driving a Chevelle in the movie
Why they end up in ancient greece instead of 1939 germany as planned?
Why does this movie even exist?
What audience was it made for?
Its exists because of KK and PWB, but why $300 mil
Are there any attractive women in the movie? I'm just surprised that it's a cast of geriatrics and a middle aged roastie with a fricking mole on her head. Who wants a movie starring nothing but ugly old people?
do we get a hitler cameo
Hitler becomes the sidekick akin to short round
He sings "Anything Goes" at a seedy Argentine nightclub at the start of the movie
Too bad AVGN doesn't review movies anymore because I'd love to hear his thoughts on this. He didn't like Crystal Skull back in 2008.
Actually he did. He even put it number 1 in his list of Sequels that Aren't as Bad as Everyone Says like...a decade or so ago.
im not watching any indy past 3
why did ford have to be so greedy and ruin his legacy, stupid senile old man....
the rape scene was a little over the top
I liked it.
What a shitty way to end the series. At least they didn't retcon Indy from existence, I guess.
How bad is it? Does he die?
How's Mads as evil Von Braun villain?
Has the cam leaked yet?
Temple of Doom remains the best Indy film.
So this is basically the 2016 Ghostbuster movie all over again? Old cast members returning only due to contractual obligation and clearly don't want to be there, reshoots up the ass, possibly a career killer for many involved...
Also, is PWB the female equivalent to Pauley Shore?
>> Unfunny comedian who got well known due to nepotism
>> Mostly a total unknown who was suddenly shoved into the spotlight out of nowhere
>> Beloved by studio execs who think they're the best thing to happen to comedy in years give them multiple movies
>> Movies with them in it either do okay or straight up bomb
>> Only a small minority of people find them entertaining, everyone else thinks they're annoying as hell.
Do Shia Lebof character gets mention at all?
Yes, he is KIA in 'Nam, which causes Indy and Marion to divorce. I can understand not bringing Mutt back, Shia is notoriously a pain in the ass to work with and a total psycho, but killing him was pretty extreme.
>Calm down, you actually live in an incredible time to be alive and have it easier than almost any other generation that came before.
Is there 2 Indiana Jones's or was that shit scrapped?
Scrapped. Young Indy is only in retrospective scenes on train and in nazi castle. No rumored young and old Indy meeting/replacing/dying people were talking about.