>Indy
Ford is old enough to be a great-grandfather, no one wnats to see that. the appeal of this film was so narrow that it should have been a niche Disney+ release, not the most expensive film ever made. >Cruise
if people want long extended stories they watch television. the movie would have been much more successful if it had been 100 minutes and not a fricking two-parter. the world is tired of Lord of the Rings wannabes. plus the franchise's staleness was apparent in the film.
>Why did this happen?
Overblown budgets. Indy shouldn't cost more than 70 mil. Mission Impossible should top around 150 mil. Both cost fricking 300 mil.
Maybe people are just tired of M:I movies
And Indiana Jones was beloved as a young athletic chad who relished adventure and hot women. It was never just about punching Nazis, but that's the only part 80 year old Ford can still pull off
Cruise thought all his movies would do 1B after Top Gun 2 which was constantly covered by the american flag so it automatically attracted all the conservatards. Big mistake to think this audience is loyal.
Tom cruise is just losing steam. As for Indy, no one really cares anymore. The trilogy was already cemented with Crusade. Every single 80s/90s franchise is crumbling slowly, from Star Wars to Jurassic; kind of depressing. Still, I think it’s time to admit we lay these media in peace. I doubt we’ll get a big franchise that’ll either be on the same leagues or even be better than those in the near future. Time will tell. The world is changing fast; and that comes with surprises.
Everything has gotten too expensive. Thats it.
My normie friends like modern movies and would watch more of them if they didn’t cost so much to watch.
We are the only ones that care about movie quality
>nobody is watching movies >that's why good and honest movies with good progressive message like Barbie are making billions of dollars
Uhm how about make good movies instead?
Did anyone even know indie and MI came out? Nobody I talked to about them knew they were releasing but everyone was talking about barbie and oppenheimer
idk about indy because i never watched them, but m:i is repetitive as frick, ethan is basically a suit-wearing superhero, the plots are same old world-saving shit etc. you can only defuse the bomb at 00:01 left so many times before it gets tedious. also the timing - one weekend before barbinheimmer wtf
I think it was very bad timing, as well as misreading current audiences. Even big fans of Cruise I know didn't know it was coming out until I told them. Hell, even I had no clue until a few weeks before it came out. Barbie is something fresh, and appeals to women who remember the toys as well as all the "men" among the younger generations.
Fact is, barbie was something new (but also not) that has widespread appeal to feminized western society. It also had an an insanely big marketing budget. Shills were out en masse across the web, article after article was written about it, etc. On the other hand, MI was just an action movie. It didn't have the patriotic "America frick yeah" undertone that Top Gun had.
Overall, everything is more politicized than ever. Movies are more expensive than ever. You have to go beyond entertaining the audience right now. You have to make them feel like they're somehow contributing to some massive political war effort like Black Panther, Barbie, or Top Gun. If you want to make big money in this environment , you have to justify spending so much money for the avg consumer. People want to fund propaganda for their side, not just watch something fun.
Well Indian Jones is going to lose a lot more than that. It made 150 million less than mission impossible and had a bigger budget. If Mission impossible is losing 100 million, Indian Jones is losing at least $250 million.
It didn't. MI will make 600 million dollars before it leaves theaters.
If you think they made a movie where it would take 700 million in ticket sales to make zero dollars, you're moronic.
Have you seen that moron "expert" who said that it doesn't matter because they will earn their money back anyway simply because it's gonna be on their streaming platforms? Like shit no movie will ever bomb again.
can't speak for everyone but the reason I didn't watch both is because I heard there were feminist girl boss characters in them
I'm done watching pozzed shit
Honestly i've just stopped watching all american shit at this point.
I don't have any hope for western cinema, western books or western television anymore.
It's been parasitized so much by people who don't understand art, entertainment or the european spirit that it has gone terminal and now the corpse is festering with maggots, women and non-whites.
But MI was forced into flop. I wanted to see it for several weekends but it was relegated to a single room at every theatre, very few times, all the good seats were always sold out. This was done on purpose.
Funny how a movie can "lose" all these hundreds of millions but it still makes the rich richer. It's almost like Hollywood isn't 100% honest or something. It's almost like announcing a movie is a flop gives it another reason to be thrown back into the promotion machine. It's almost like theaters are a garbage experience now. It's almost like producing a poor performing movie is actually more profitable for the suits.
Nobody wants to watch films with geriatric white men in the leads.
Because they shouldnt have been made. Nobody wants more of those anymore
I want more mission impossible
>Indy
Ford is old enough to be a great-grandfather, no one wnats to see that. the appeal of this film was so narrow that it should have been a niche Disney+ release, not the most expensive film ever made.
>Cruise
if people want long extended stories they watch television. the movie would have been much more successful if it had been 100 minutes and not a fricking two-parter. the world is tired of Lord of the Rings wannabes. plus the franchise's staleness was apparent in the film.
How does paying to watch either of those bolster your social life? That's why Barbenheimer sold and drab rehashes didn't.
Nobody gives a shit about indiana jones
Nobody gives a shit about mission impossible
Simple as
They're terrible
reportedly is same as rumored which is same as made up bullshit
Yep, they've covering for the wokeshit replacementgrrrl elements.
>Why did this happen?
Overblown budgets. Indy shouldn't cost more than 70 mil. Mission Impossible should top around 150 mil. Both cost fricking 300 mil.
I want to know where the extra 100mil for MI came from. Fallout cost like 180mil but Dead Reckoning cost 290mil for no apparent reason.
Go white honey, lose your money.
Go woke, make lots of money.
Incels dont go to movies.
At least they have a high ESG score
I can see MI7 loosing money but, 100 million seems t0o high.
Dead Reckoning lost money because they made Ethan a cuck in the previous one.
Dial lost money because the previous one was shit.
No, it was the over-concentration on secondary female characters.
This is bullshit because the female characters were white and attractive
White & cishet & problematic age gap between main actor and main actress & it's the current year
Maybe people are just tired of M:I movies
And Indiana Jones was beloved as a young athletic chad who relished adventure and hot women. It was never just about punching Nazis, but that's the only part 80 year old Ford can still pull off
Cruise thought all his movies would do 1B after Top Gun 2 which was constantly covered by the american flag so it automatically attracted all the conservatards. Big mistake to think this audience is loyal.
Film's of the white man is over
>watching le wyte savior trope in this day and age when you could learn a thing or two from women's struggle watching Barbie
Mission Impossible released a week before Oppenheimer and Barbie
It would've been fine if it released now
Finally, the one-man-army is finally dying. NATURE IS HEALING.
cruise is bruised
Actors are too old and Mission Impossible was never good
No one wants to watch boring white men main characters in the cinema 🙂
>Can't bruise the cru-ACK
Tom cruise is just losing steam. As for Indy, no one really cares anymore. The trilogy was already cemented with Crusade. Every single 80s/90s franchise is crumbling slowly, from Star Wars to Jurassic; kind of depressing. Still, I think it’s time to admit we lay these media in peace. I doubt we’ll get a big franchise that’ll either be on the same leagues or even be better than those in the near future. Time will tell. The world is changing fast; and that comes with surprises.
Everything has gotten too expensive. Thats it.
My normie friends like modern movies and would watch more of them if they didn’t cost so much to watch.
We are the only ones that care about movie quality
>nobody is watching movies
>that's why good and honest movies with good progressive message like Barbie are making billions of dollars
Uhm how about make good movies instead?
Did anyone even know indie and MI came out? Nobody I talked to about them knew they were releasing but everyone was talking about barbie and oppenheimer
The only two movies that this year sparked; Indy, MI, even Mario bros, got mogged by the pink bomb.
MI7 is a good, flopped. Barbie is a slop it made a billion. It's all about marketing and brand power, normalgays don't give a frick about the quality
Mogged by barbie and Oppenheimer
idk about indy because i never watched them, but m:i is repetitive as frick, ethan is basically a suit-wearing superhero, the plots are same old world-saving shit etc. you can only defuse the bomb at 00:01 left so many times before it gets tedious. also the timing - one weekend before barbinheimmer wtf
>ethan is basically a suit-wearing superhero,
so it's basically capeshit without a cape...
which leaves us with...
>Harrison Ford 5
>Tom Cruise 8
No thanks.
I think it was very bad timing, as well as misreading current audiences. Even big fans of Cruise I know didn't know it was coming out until I told them. Hell, even I had no clue until a few weeks before it came out. Barbie is something fresh, and appeals to women who remember the toys as well as all the "men" among the younger generations.
Fact is, barbie was something new (but also not) that has widespread appeal to feminized western society. It also had an an insanely big marketing budget. Shills were out en masse across the web, article after article was written about it, etc. On the other hand, MI was just an action movie. It didn't have the patriotic "America frick yeah" undertone that Top Gun had.
Overall, everything is more politicized than ever. Movies are more expensive than ever. You have to go beyond entertaining the audience right now. You have to make them feel like they're somehow contributing to some massive political war effort like Black Panther, Barbie, or Top Gun. If you want to make big money in this environment , you have to justify spending so much money for the avg consumer. People want to fund propaganda for their side, not just watch something fun.
Well Indian Jones is going to lose a lot more than that. It made 150 million less than mission impossible and had a bigger budget. If Mission impossible is losing 100 million, Indian Jones is losing at least $250 million.
>sequel 5 loses money
>sequel 7 also loses money
wow
i liked both these movies way more than oppenbarbie
I don't go to the movies anymore
AI is about to take over our screen time anyway
It didn't. MI will make 600 million dollars before it leaves theaters.
If you think they made a movie where it would take 700 million in ticket sales to make zero dollars, you're moronic.
Have you seen that moron "expert" who said that it doesn't matter because they will earn their money back anyway simply because it's gonna be on their streaming platforms? Like shit no movie will ever bomb again.
Lack of feminine and sensual women?
Lack of a good story?
I only saw it in the two girlboss that think they are better than men
zoomers don't care about this franchises and the boomers that do are dying
can't speak for everyone but the reason I didn't watch both is because I heard there were feminist girl boss characters in them
I'm done watching pozzed shit
I call BS on this. Indy 5 will lose a lot more, while MI7 might still break even.
Honestly i've just stopped watching all american shit at this point.
I don't have any hope for western cinema, western books or western television anymore.
It's been parasitized so much by people who don't understand art, entertainment or the european spirit that it has gone terminal and now the corpse is festering with maggots, women and non-whites.
This whole thing was worth it to see their reactions
It's even worse with sound.
It's alleluia sung out of tune and out of line with the dance.
Let me guess you only watch nip shit now.
Nope. Chinese for books though.
Alien perspectives at times but at least most of the sentiments and desires aren't.
>the coronation
Wait no way they actually did this when they crowned Charles? Call me a chud cause The West Has Unironically Fallen.
Audiences are tired of straight white males protagonists
Just make cheaper movies lmao
Do you really meed the diversity coaches on set?
>2023
>Old white male
We all know why Indiana Jones was a flop.
But MI was forced into flop. I wanted to see it for several weekends but it was relegated to a single room at every theatre, very few times, all the good seats were always sold out. This was done on purpose.
Funny how a movie can "lose" all these hundreds of millions but it still makes the rich richer. It's almost like Hollywood isn't 100% honest or something. It's almost like announcing a movie is a flop gives it another reason to be thrown back into the promotion machine. It's almost like theaters are a garbage experience now. It's almost like producing a poor performing movie is actually more profitable for the suits.