https://www.indiewire.com/news/box-office/indiana-jones-box-office-flop-disney-movie-faces-massive-loss-1234882402/
>$400m budget BEFORE marketing
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Indiana Jones budget is EVEN BIGGER than previous estimates
https://www.indiewire.com/news/box-office/indiana-jones-box-office-flop-disney-movie-faces-massive-loss-1234882402/
>$400m budget BEFORE marketing
OH NO NO NO NO NO
A small price to pay to own the chuds
>we told you so
Do these morons think I didn't want roe v wade to get overturned?
This b***h is too ugly to get laid, roe v wade is the last thing she needs to worry about
Too ugly to get laid is a male only problem
No (real) woman is too ugly to get laid. The worst they can be is too ugly to get laid by Chad.
Someone please help out an autistic anon. It says in the text that she's showing her reaction to Roe v Wade being overturned, but she seems angry for some reason. Am I misreading her facial expressions?
She's mad about not killing babies anon it is weird but it has to due with this sort of budded off info environment they get into where a few guys tell them bad stuff is good. Hope this helps anon
The ESG money has to run out right? Right guys??
They can always just type in more money in the computer. They don't even have to print it.
>look, mom, I used that word again!
>ESG
>word
moron
That's an acronym you fricking moron
it's actually an initialism
>Oy vey, stop noseticing things, goy!
>The ESG money has to run out right? Right guys??
Yup and guess who bails them out since those same companies handle pensions.
honestly? it might. ESG investors actually believe that companies with good ESG scores are good to invest in (they're moronic), but Disney actively vaporizing money at this scale will cause people to second guess it.
They control your 401k, so when their money runs out so does your retirement.
No one this generation was planning on retiring anyway.
Joke's on them, I'm so poor I have nothing saved up for retirement anyway. Burn Blackrock down.
No one under 40 is ever going to retire.
Retire now, live like Diogenes.
Joke's on them, I'm never going to work again.
Wrong. Try 50. Gen X once again will get screwed over by boomers. The well is dry. Under 40 is a modest estimate. It is going to take several decades to turn this economy around, if that is even possible. The middle class is dead.
easasian countries have birth numbers all the way down in the 0.8s per woman. you know how fricking quickly that reduces a population? and they make all our cheap shit over there. what's gonna happen when the productive parts of their population literally HALVES in the next few decades?
the world's gonna be a real frickin' wacky place these next couple of generations. we're talking black death levels of social collapse.
Post-war honeymoon period is about to end it seems.
Retirement? You guys have pensions? I think I have 3k in my one. No zoomer and very few millenials are retiring mate. War is here for most of us but it's coming to the west too soon.
Blackrock is worth 10 trillion dollars. The film industry is barely worth 100 billion. Blackrock could stop all activity and have enough money to fund the entirety of Hollywood for another 100 years.
Blackrock is not worth 10 trillion. They manage 10 trillion that can be easily taken away from them
They hit $10 trillion in asset management, but then last year they lost $1.6 trillion.
>i dont know anything about anything but will type words and opinions
Low IQ posts right here. EGS and DEI are points for credit lines, doenst matter how much woke it is, if it loses money, the investors will pull their money, these kind of projects were only possible to exist because the US central banks had cheap credit entering the economy (thus corporations could sells stocks and claim profit without having actual operational profit), now they havent and the rates are up, private investors are already seeing letting woke asset managers manage your money is a no no.
breasts are going dry and we will see a major shift in entertainment production
if blackrock liquidated everything, they could maybe fund another 10 years of Black person propaganda at the cost of cratering the economy and also making everyone hate Black folk even more once the money was all dried up
Jews are fully willing to go down with the ship in their quest for violent revenge against all whites.
>The ESG money has to run out right? Right guys??
For every ESG failure there are 10 more successes you dont notice.
They're making money on alot more companies that dont get media coverage.
ESG isn't going away for a long while.
Ideologies aren't rational.
They just want to win regardless of the cost
No, but Disney will shuffle money from Disney+ to it so that it looks good to investors. Disney+ is a financial black hole anyway, so if they pay 400 million dollars for the streaming rights for Indiana Jones, Disney can tell its investors that their movies are profitable.
I haven't watched it but, from the trailer and what nearly everyone is saying, it doesn't seem like they spent it on the film. So where did all the money go? How badly mismanaged was this project?
It did go on a film that doesn’t exist. They had to reshoot a shit load because test audiences said the film was unwatchable. PWB was a lot more insufferable and took up the mantle after Indy died and there was a bit more time travel in it - even going to the 2016 trump inauguration. Regardless, Harrison Ford probably costs a lot of money alone
25 million. Carrey made 20 million for 'The Cable Guy' in 1996. So nothing exuberant by moviestar standards.
He won't get that fee anymore but he'll be fine. They needed him for Disney Star Wars and Disney Indy but otherwise an 80-year-old action/romantic lead is spoiled milk.
That was a gigantic payday for Carrey, it wasn't normal. don't be stupid
I wondered about the time travel thing. It was a huge let down when they finally did get to it.
In theory it's the combination of shooting in so many locations, tons of CGI, tons of sets, and tons of lines and shots that ultimately go unused.
You're right, what people don't understand about these huge movies is the amount of waste. They will literally construct sets that you will barely see in the final cut, etc. I even remember the story, I don't know if it's true, about how they literally helicoptered in the alien puppet that Luke Skywalker drinks milk from in The Last Jedi to some remote island -- at the cost of something crazy, like $20 million dollars -- for what is maybe 20 seconds of screen-time.
I think Hollywood launders money. It explains some things, if you think about it.
I wish Disney was laundering money because then the cartels and war lords would chop their heads off for losing so much money.
But no, it's our pensions that are funding these dogshit movies.
>"our" [anything]
haha good one anon, good one
They shot a few scenes for the movie Up Close and Personal at the trailer park my Grandparents lived in. They built an entire trailer for it in about a week and shot scenes for a couple of weeks all over the park. First they paid my grandparents not to interfere in the movie then they ended up shooting footage with my grandfather in it and paid him to be in the movie, though they didn't end up using that footage in the movie but their car was in the shot. There's a scene with rain that was completely faked. Overall it was an interesting thing to watch and they completely took down the trailer when they were done for about 5 minutes or less of actual footage used.
Stupid, lazy management. Continual reediting and reshoots waste money. No one gives a frick. They clock in and grab as much as they can from the money faucet. Lots of people with nothing jobs.
>So where did all the money go?
They essentially shot the movie twice also Harrison Ford got injured early slowing production down for months + Covid happened. The longer movies get delayed the more they cost. I think the last James Bond made jack shit for this reason.
This is the only thing that might save Kathleen Kennedy. "It's not my fault the old man got hurt and Covid happened"
>I think the last James Bond made jack shit for this reason.
No, that's not why it didn't make any money.
Harrison Ford got injured and they spent 3 months burning money waiting for him to recover, deepfaking for that long costs a ton, and they rented out sections of entire cities to film on location (not that you would know with Mangold’s shit zoomed-in, shaky cam direction)
Kathleen Kennedy has been siphoning funds from big projects into her dogshit feminist projects like The Acolyte.
She might actually lose her job for it this time.
just moving money from other projects since theyre taking a loss anyway
>1 billion break even point
Are they smoking crack? Crystal Skulls couldn't even pull that and that movie released under way better circumstances.
What the fricking point of making films with a break even point that high? Even if they are successful you won't make much profit.
Have all studios forgot how to manage budgets? Crazy how Alien only cost 11mil to make and looks much better than anything in Dial of Destiny
Probably a tax scheme
It must be. I don’t know enough about it to say, but I’ve always imagined something like “$400” coffees on set to use as write-offs or something
They probably argued that even if the film is only a moderate success (they absolutely did not calculate this flopping), it'd introduce the franchise to a "new generation," and be a "springboard" for a new series of movies starring Helena.
Maybe it's about controlling production.
Imagine you employ 10 people and spend $1 million and make a movie that brings in $2 million in revenue. $1 million profits, wahoo.
But what if you employed 5,000 people and spent $500 million and brought in $501 million in revenue. Same profit (and insanely worse ROI). But what else did you accomplish? You trained 5,000 people to think the way you do and make the kind of movies you want made. At the same time, that's 499 more movies that can't get made; movies that might be competition, or contain wrongthink.
Yeah I think a lot of it is about asserting dominance. "We're Disney, we're the kings of entertainment, we can put $400 mill into movies and we'll still win. Get to work Indian CGI artists!" That's really what their mindset it
There's a nugget of truth in this I feel. I'm not any kind of hot shot in anything, but I've worked as a cog in the machine on a few productions with very "California" messages, and I just do my best to do my work, even if it's got things I roll my eyes at, or disagree with.
Kathleen Kennedy thought it was still 2009 and she can just release whatever for a guaranteed billion
If you look at it from a totally delusional perspective, you could see Lucasfilm arguing that Indiana Jones is just as strong a brand as Star Wars, and that people would rush to see a final outing with Harrison Ford.
This is completely untrue, but I'm trying to figure out a way this makes sense.
Indy was a boomer franchise even back when Crystal Skull came out, Disney is hilariously out of touch.
>This is completely untrue, but I'm trying to figure out a way this makes sense.
They got high off Marvel’s (and those live action atrocities) success and just assumed anything they pumped out would get a billy guaranteed. Therefore they could take on more expense which means bloated studios and now that the money train is derailing they don’t know what to do but keep going forward because they literally forgot how to not bloatmaxx their productions
That was true up to 2019, but the Pandemic ruined their momentum. After 2 years of staying away, people go to the movies less so the box offices are VERY finicky now. One film makes 1 billion, the rest lose 200 million. Disney just got very lazy and assumed ANYTHING they put out would make 750-1,000m without putting any effort into it or asking what people actually wanted. See also: The Little Mudfish. An ugly Black ended up cutting the film's box office in half, since it BOMBED in east asia that typically loves this shit.
I think the solution is LOWER BUDGETS.
It's LucasFilm, and it's run by KK and her feminist minions. They really want to replace every male hero with a female one.
I love that the israelitedemic has backfired so spectacularly on them.
I dunno. I walked out of Endgame with friends who were basically saying that there was no point in seeing any other Marvel movies because they weren't going to get any better than that. They started painting themselves into a corner well before coronavirus clogged the gravy train.
Any way you look at it, Indiana Jones 5 is one of the dumbest business decisions in history. Audiences already lost interest in Indiana Jones in 2008 since they didn't like Crystal Skull and the Star Wars brand has declined significantly after the sequel trilogy was a waste. And yet 15 years later they decided to take an 80 year old Harrison Ford, throw $400 million at a new movie which is possibly the most expensive budget ever, and hope to God that it makes at least $1 billion to make even a small profit at a time where movie theaters are declining and COVID ravaged the industry.
I'm just dumbfounded at how fricking insane Disney and Lucasfilm are. Everything people have said about them over the years is demonstrably true and we're just supposed to pretend like they know what they're doing because a lot of journalists say good things about their movies and condemn the evil fascist fanboys. What a disaster.
It all makes sense if you realize these decisions were made in 2019, or even earlier. In 2019, nine movies made over a billion dollars. Seven of them were from Disney. If you just looked at things in a wider scope, you could absolutely fricking expect EVERY Disney film to make $750 million or movie. They were RAKING it in. Marvel. Animation. Star Wars. Everything was around a billy or more.
I'm pretty sure it was Captain Marvel that convinced them that they could make anything and it would make a billion dollars.
I have no doubt that would be true today if not for the pandemic.
I still don't understand how Captain Marvel made money.
Or Black Panther, if I'm being honest.
I watched BP, it was a solid 6/10. The final fight scenes etc., were atrocious. The villain carried the movie. Apparently it was like a social phenomenon among blacks so the entire population of them in the US went see it, so it made bank.
CM, I don't even know of anyone who went to see it. And it's not like it's one of those movies you go take the kids to, like the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels that all made like a billion each somehow. Or these disney live action remakes that everyone's girlfriends asks them to go see out of nostalgia. Who did go see CM? I don't get it.
It’s easy to see why BP made money, every Black person in the country saw it and think Wakanda is a real place. CM was because of a bunch of marketing that made people think it was necessary viewing for Endgame. It wasn’t, but that’s what people thought so they watched it
>they’re merging with Hulu
The backstory for why is one of the most genuinely baffling business decisions I have ever heard of
simple answer is that there was financial fraud committed. pre-2020 there was so much kvetching going on about trump, did anyone pay close attention to fine details about what was going on? how many people were able to predict and minimize impact from the scamdemic? remember the empty movie theaters for captain toefungus?
Yes but they still had ample time in the past 4 years to reconsider their business strategy even if they made up their minds in 2019. They absolutely knew they were making a gamble after the COVID pandemic to release such expensive movies. Did they just have shitty marketers and industry analysts? Could they not see that the industry would never be the same after COVID? 2019 was the peak of Hollywood and 2023 is shaping up to be rock bottom.
Movies take four to five years to make now. Stuff that's coming out now was in pre-production going back to 2018 or 2019. What we're seeing are bombs landing after a ceasefire's been called. They were already in the air. And we probably have another year or so of films just like this coming.
Maybe so... we'll see if Hollywood gains any common sense 2 years from now or if they'll still move ahead with 10 more Avengers movies and reboots
>that Alladin movie with a blue will smith made one billion dollars
Talk about bloat, god damn they should have seen that coming
>I'm just dumbfounded at how fricking insane Disney and Lucasfilm are. Everything people have said about them over the years is demonstrably true and we're just supposed to pretend like they know what they're doing because a lot of journalists say good things about their movies and condemn the evil fascist fanboys. What a disaster.
being honest a lot of movie critics dosen't even price their films as they used to be, a lot of liberals critics think that elements was mid, the Rise of skywalkers was a fiasco and that 80 years old harrison ford punching people feels lame, damm even the liberal critic of the liberal papper of my town say the same lel
Critics get a bad rep, it's the journalists that are shameless, shameless leftist propagandists. Critics are usually wrong too but not quite as ideological. They even gave that new human trafficking movie very good reviews meanwhile the journalists are calling it QAnon fascist propaganda
>throw $400 million at a new movie which is possibly the most expensive budget ever
Good news! It's not.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/02/26/star-wars-the-force-awakens-becomes-the-most-expensive-movie-in-history/?sh=119c55c78053
>Star Wars: The Force Awakens has become the most expensive movie ever made with a total budget of $533.2 million (£446.3 million) according to recent filings.
It's not even number 2.
>As the graph below shows, the closest competitor to The Force Awakens was 2019's The Rise of Skywalker which cost $503.6 million (£421.5 million) to make.
Fun fact, this means the Rise of Skywalker also lost money. A lot of money. A LOT of money. It would've been in the green if it made Avengers Ultron level money, but it didn't make that level money.
Disney blew SO MUCH MONEY on these things.
And they didn't even plan out a plot for the trilogy, lmao.
yeah that, what happend with Rian Johnson trilogy?
That was quitely cancelled. Officially, Rian was too busy with Knives Out movies.
I-it's still coming, you chud! It's just in development.
Holy frick. They were really lying about this shit for years, how did this all come out now?
Filings in the UK got made public.
Age of Ultron was 445 million.
Which explains why they freaked out so hard and shitcanned Whedon when it has a drop of, gasp, 100 million compared to the previous movie. What now seems like a wild overreaction makes perfect sense when this movie cost easily 150 million more than they were releasing to the public, and made ever so slightly less money.
This is why I feel like Kathleen's going to be fine after this, thanks to the filings we now know Solo and Rise of Skywalker were back to back losses, in STAR WARS. There's no fricking way they freaked out over 100 million lost for Avengers but were fine for 732 MILLION lost for TLJ.
I would've never heard about this shit if it wasn't for Cinemaphile
>Movies made in the UK are eligible for a cash reimbursement of up to 25% of the amount they spend there provided that it represents at least 10% of the total cost of the picture.
>In order to demonstrate this, studios set up separate UK companies to make each movie and they are required to file publicly-available financial statements.
>The companies have code names to stop them from raising attention when they apply for permits to film on location. As with all UK companies, its financial statements are released in stages long after the period they relate to.
>The UK government's regulations state that there is "no requirement" for the spending shown in the financial statements to include marketing costs and there is no indication that they do.
I'm starting to believe the BlackRock schizos. Hollywood is barely even profitable
>732 MILLION lost for TLJ.
How the frick are they still in business. I can't tell you the last time I watched any Disney shit and I was fanatic about them as a kid. In the eastern block Disney was our introduction to American media post communism. A lot of us learned English from American cartoons and movies. How the frick did they go so bad?
Every movie on paper is a financial disaster. Don't have to pay out percent of profits or residuals.
Get in a time machine to tell anybody in 2004 that (a) Lucas will sell Star Wars for $4billion, and (b) the buyers won’t make that money back after over 10 years of owning it. They’d think you’re absolutely batshit insane
>what the frick do you mean there’s no merch or games and the movies are now direct-to-video tv shows?
>>what the frick do you mean there’s no merch or games
yeah this one confuse me a lot, he makes tons of money with merch and video games at the time, why they become so resistant to making merch?
For some god forsaken reason western video games take five years to make now, and cost $200 million dollars. If you question this, the industry wags your finger at you, and tells you that that's just how it is now.
They made merch. No one bought it. People have to care about the property attached to the merchandise to want to buy it. Everyone loathes Nu Star Wars. There's nothing fun or joyful about it for children or man-children.
they make merch. but for merch to sell, fans have to love the characters and story. and disney has a "frick the fans" strategy. hey, maybe a few thousand black kids bought the Finn action figures. remember him?
>hey, maybe a few thousand black kids bought the Finn action figures. remember him
it's so funny how it become one of the most unselled toys of all time, literally no black children care about him at fricking all.
Black kids these days like anime more than disney and star wars shit and anime doesn't have any black characters at all
yeah i notice that when i was on manga store in miami for vacation last year, half of the store was black kids on their 15~
even the gay who played him hates the character and hates disney. didn't he have a mental breakdown? screaming into a megaphone because his character didn't get to afreakanize Rey's exhaust pipe?
that was hilarious
>why they become so resistant to making merch?
They would love to make merch, but after TLJ their merch sales absolutely cratered. Poor Hasbro finally had a good year for their own brands and lost over 300 million on "Partner Brands"(Star Wars is the main one) in the same year it and Solo came out. They couldn't give the shit away, wearhouses were shredding merch, SHREDDING IT, to get rid of it because Liquidation stores wouldn't touch the things.
After it rotted on the shelves, they stopped taking orders for anything that isn't Baby Yoda.
The Rogue One merch sold terribly also. The only stuff that sold well was the initial Force Awakens stuff, and Baby Yeed (although they’ve overspent and worn out their welcome with him).
Did investors know this? How is this not fraud?
it is fraud but there's no one to investigate and prosecute. they've got the whole thing rigged from top to bottom. they even have the president on their side (look up joe biden quote about how the gop are "going after mickey")
now the question is, with so many fricking flop after flop, i wonder if anyone is gonna question the losses now.
>Did investors know this?
Yes, ish? They're allowed to ask about it and request full financial breakdowns, but they wouldn't be allowed to talk about it. Not that they would anyway because if it came out during Rise of Skywalker it would've tanked their stock.
No, because on the wiki page for Rise of Skywalker, the budget was always listed at $275 million. It's only this year that they changed the budget to $400 million+ in light of the article
Is that TFA budget including marketing? That actually makes sense then, and aligns with what most people say about budgets: just basically double the production.
>Is that TFA budget including marketing?
Nope. That good sir is what we now know is 100 percent Production only, no marketing included.
About that...
>Nope. That good sir is what we now know is 100 percent Production only, no marketing included.
Holy fricking shit. Then I don't trust any of these people anymore. People need to start factoring in just plain LYING when trying to figure out if a movie turned profitable. It used to be production budget, and marketing budget, while considering the theater take. Now you basically need to guess how much of the production budget they're hiding.
It’s safe to assume at this point that unless something is VERY obviously successful (eg Mario’s “$1.3B on a $100M budget”) that it flopped and somebody’s lying about the numbers
>oof, yeah we made 1.3b on a 100m budget, but sorry nintendo this movie lost money
>guess we don't owe you any money oh well
Shit homie James Cameron's comments make so much sense now
>https://www.yahoo.com/video/avatar-way-water-become-fourth-042600335.html
>He estimated that in order for the film to break even, Avatar 2 would "have to be the third or fourth highest-grossing film in history."
275 million budget my ass, we're going to find out this thing cost 600 million or some shit in the future.
a movie that is released globally and is popular should have no trouble getting close to $1B or above. the world population is 8 billion. also factor in fans who re-watch during theatrical run because they loved it so much. wasteful consoomers who fall in love with a movie do this. i've done it.
>The Rise of Skywalker which cost $503.6 million (£421.5 million) to make.
They spent half a billion on that turd before marketing? Jesus Christ. I didn't even see it after Last Jedi. Still haven't. What a monumental money thresher Disney has become.
Disney is Too Big to Fail
Sad but true. Your tax dollars will bail them out.
from Maureen Ryan's Burn It All Down
>Before Emma took the job, a friend in Hollywood told her that Lucasfilm didn't particularly care about going over budget. Emma was gobsmacked by her friend's observation, given the penny-pinching ways of her previous employers. "But I saw it up close -- that it doesn't matter how many mistakes are made or how incompetent some people are," she said. "Our budget doubled, and I'm sure it went up after I left. I've never seen anything like it."
I feel like this is gonna come back to haunt whoever at Lucasfilm has been doing these excessive budgets
Gonna read that book now. Hope it's on libgen
good, Disney derserves to fall apart. i honeslty kathleen gas lights even more so she can keep working there. let her burn the whole thing down.
Agreed. I'm looking at the whole thing with morbid fascination at this point. I'm almost rooting to see how bad she can frick things up before they actually fire her.
Didn't ask troony
If this information is circulating normally, it means that kk is more than screwed and will enter the blacklist
this is what shows as trending in my google search bar. earlier today it was "kathleen kennedy lucasfilm". i have cleared my cache, history, etc.
it has now updated. my browser is clearly feeding google data
>using google even ironically
let me guess. you have firefox too? lol you fricking morons never learn
no, brave. but for some reason ublock stopped working. yeah i know but i use it for local biz searches and don't know a better alternative for that purpose
have you at least actually changed the settings in the browser so its actually secure? for instance facebook/twitter/etc links are used to track every website you go to and see what tabs you have open, you have to disable those links and there is an option to do that
I'm not a terrorist so I don't have to worry about that.
how are you such a homosexual zoomer that you don't turn that "prediction" (engagement) shit off
There's no way this shit movie cost $400 million. I think they're trying to write off taxes or something.
Disney is falling apart.
how did they frick up so badly in 7 years? Seriously? They owned half of entertainment and blew it all up
Disney doesn't make low or even mid budget movies anymore. When you do nothing but gamble big eventually it will blow up on your face
None of their franchises is a gamble. Indiana Jones isn't a gamble it's a sure thing. They deliberately sabotage their entertainment by prioritizing their political agendas over than producing content people want to see.
Clearly it fricking isn't a sure thing. Clearly it is a gamble. It's an action movie fifteen years after a poorly received, also unnecessary, sequel "staring" an 80 year old.
You can just skip to the generic "go woke go broke" post instead of saying moronation first.
feminist women
>They owned half of entertainment
That was their problem. Market dominance is antithetical to the creative process, and being #1 takes a lot of effort to maintain. It's better to be in the top 3, riding waves and cycles with your competitors so you're not taking on too much risk
Isn't WB in the number three spot now?
It went from studying and striving for the pinnacle of storytelling to hating and lecturing chuds. They have way more resources now to make great entertainment but blow it all on agenda-driven slop.
Pure fricking hubris. They thought Marvel movies would print 1 billion dollars a movie forever even after major stars left and they let woke woman plan everything post End Game
>we have found the formula for printing entrainment bucks. But you know what’s REALLY missing right now, in the late 2010s? Corporations giving their political opinions.
>Theme parks have become too expensive, thought that they could salvage it with Star Wars land and the Star Wars cruise only to realize that even the biggest NPC wouldn't pay 5 grand for Kennedyslop
>Have been pissing in the mouths of Disney diehards with paid fastpasses to the point where they're going less
>Pixar has lost all relevance
>Movies have just become live action slop only meant to revive their copyright and for no other reason. Little Mermaid seems to have been their best case scenario and even then it's barely breaking even after advertising costs
>Everyone and their grandmother tuned out of Marvel after the Thanos saga, everything past that point has turned so convoluted it would make Kingdom Hearts' plotline blush
>ESPN has taken a nosedive due to a combination of politics and the channel not adapting to the fact that any sports fan can get any take at any time. Has basically become the Stephen A Smith network
Mickey Mouse entering the public domain in 2024 is going to kill the company. Their hail mary is throwing money to anti-AI initiatives so a copyright addendum can be made and they get years added onto the mouse's copyright as a kickback.
What exactly happens when Mickey Mouse goes public domain next year
A bunch of shitty horror spinoffs. They can use only black and white Mickey, so good luck with that.
>>ESPN has taken a nosedive due to a combination of politics and the channel not adapting to the fact that any sports fan can get any take at any time. Has basically become the Stephen A Smith network
i am not american so i am interesed in this, on this zone of the earth they don't show that much gay shit on sports (latin america) on their plataform, so how do you guys watch sports?
It’s technically just Steamboat Willie, but what it means is that next year somebody can release a game where SW is a camp guard at Treblinka - complete with the uniform and swastika - and there is precisely jack and shit Disney can do to stop them
Can't they just refresh their copyright on it?
no, everything goes into the public domain after a set number of years
No. “Refreshing” copyright is passing a law that extends the copyright period. The time to do that was five years ago because I guarantee you the Florida representatives will take a literal shit on any bill they try to pass now
If it’s not defamatory they can do anything they want. It’s as public domain as Shakespeare
Can they introduce him as "Walt Disney's Steamboat Willy"
I wouldn't go to Disneyland even if I got free tickets these days, they are literally putting men in drag and a bunch of black women all over the parks.
The funny part is that you don't even need to be against these things to not like it, some familes just don't want to go on a vacation to have THAT conversation, is just fricking stupid, I want to go to a dream land, not Detroit.
Disney land is still popular in Japan/Korea according to my social media feed. Ticket prices must be reasonable in Asia and visitors must be enjoying not having to put up with Disney shoving agendas down their throats.
Tokyo Disneyland insisted on keeping Splash Mountain about Song in the South rather than changing to Princess and Frog like American Disneyland
Tokyo Disneyland is not owned by Disney, and Splash Mountain is way more popular there than it ever was in the US and sells tons of merch, they fricking love anything with cute animals in it over there.
>Tokyo Disneyland is not owned by Disney
Obviously. They're making informed business decisions based on the interests of their customer base.
Iger is prepping for a sale. If the investors dont go after him now they will lose what little they have left
Any predictions on what the hell they’re going to do with this IP now??
Top men are working on it.
TOP.
MEN.
>End career with 2 most famous characters, Han Solo and Indiana Jones ruined.
>Forever
>No one will forget how it was ruined
Ford's a grumpy old ducker, he doesnt give a shit. He specifically hated Star Wars anyway.
But people will forget. Good movies are remembered, bad ones fade quickly, even terrible ones only leave a temporary stain. How many utterly shit episodes of Star Trek, TNG and DS9 were there? Tons, but we remember the good ones and those series are the ones that will last.
Fricking nice.
Fifteen Disney+ shows and a $6000 hotel RP experience. Surely one will succeed.
It was supposed to have a spin off with Phoebe if the movie broke even
The only good thing Disney ever did with the IP was the ride they built almost 30 years ago.
Indiana jones and the fate of atlantis you uncultured swine
So this is easily the biggest bomb of all time right? $400m budget means 1 billion break even point and this will be lucky to cross $400m. Will lose at least $350m
John Carter might be up there
John Carter is the biggest ever. When all is said and done, Indy 5 might be the biggest which is absolutely insane when you think about because Raiders solidified the blockbuster format. Both movies are from Disney too.
I still can't believe how hard John Carter flopped, it's not even a bad movie.
>Shit title
>Shit trailers
>Plot poorly described
Not all that hard, in hindsight.
Well yeah they definitely fricked up the marketing, but still you'd expect the "biggest bomb of all time" to be some abomination like Cats 2019
Heaven's Gate's 1980 $44M write-off took down United Artists and its loss is only $162M in today's dollars
>budget 250 - 400mil
You always go with the highest number when they do this. An Indiana Jones film is the biggest bomb of all time.
Unbelievable
you still think this is about money?
hahahahaha haha ha
>and then there's Indiana
As a Hoosier, I find my state being maligned with this movie offensive. Can we sue for defamation?
For those wondering, its doing MUCH worse than brown mermaid
Oof. It’s not going to hit $400 million
Why do they piss away so much money on these fricking movies?
Embezzlement. The director, producers, actors, and writers (not the crew or VFX artists) pocket most of it. That’s why the movies look cheap and shitty.
Is it out if theaters near anyone else? The two largest near me both have it bumped. Which is funny since flash and little mermaid are in both still
Movie was fine tbh, wouldn't say it was woke but largely just unremarkable and forgettable
It deserves to flop though
How bad is the girlbossing?
I didn't really find it that bad, the chick is meant to be rather unlikeable for a good chunk of the movie
>she is meant to be unlikable
cope, these characters are meant to be likable, the writers/directors themselves are just psychopaths. see: literally any girlboss in the last 10 years. are they ALL *meant* to be unlikable?
her character would've been killed at the end of any of the previous indiana jones movies, like the blonde in the last crusade, who can't overcome her greed and ends up dying for it.
>meant to be rather unlikeable for a good chunk of the movie
she never stops being unlikable, she is a c**t all the way through, never grows up, never admits her wrong doing and then Indy has to thank her at the end
That's what I thought too. It's not poorly made or anything on a technical level, and they don't do anything insulting to the legacy of the character, its just really boring. I'll never watch it again because it offers me absolutely nothing.
It's there but its tolerable. Maybe it didn't seem as bad to me because I expected A LOT worse.
And it was just too long with really only 2-3 good bits in it. Also with how Disney is with their deaging crap I feel they were probably testing the potential of doing a fully deaged Indy movie down the line which sounds awful
It wouldn't work unless they could de-age his voice too. Even when the CGI didn't look bad, old man Harrison's voice coming out of 30 year old Harrison's mouth was distracting.
Think they did it with Luke but ended up sounding like a robot so they just aren't quite there yet, guess a voice actor wouldn't be out of question
>And it was just too long with really only 2-3 good bits in it. Also with how Disney is with their deaging crap I feel they were probably testing the potential of doing a fully deaged Indy movie down the line which sounds awful
For 1000th of the money they could just HIRE A NEW FRICKING ACTOR.
PLEASE HELP BY BUYING TICKETS TO DISNEY'S INDIANA JONES DIAL OF DESTINY. PLEASE THINK OF THE HAT.
Which flop will have a greater impact, Indy 5 or Flash?
Flash probably, since it might actually deter studios from starting more capeshit.
The force is female? More like the force is FLOPPING.
Goyslop? More like goyflop!
They just increasing the budget now to maximise the tax write off. They going to with all sorts of lots receipts and expenses to add.
Classic Hollywood accounting.
>that thing is the new face of the franchise
At least put a hot woman for your woke shit, at least Margot is hot
Margot is walled now lol. Even a wrestling chick mogs her.
Walled Margot is hotter than Walled Bridge
i watched ten minutes of it and had to turn it off because of the shitty slapstick music score
Would this have been top gun maverick level success if it was actually good?
Old man Cruise isn't that old yet, and you can kind of buy an old man in a jet fighter anyway because what the heck do you know about jet fighters? I sure don't know shit, can an old man survive that shit? I dunno, so it seems plausible to me that he does.
Even fricking older Ford jumping around like an action hero sure isn't plausible though. Nor is this pathetic, old nursemaid-looking british woman jumping around in high heels for some reason. Your brain just rebels against everything you're seeing. So I don't think there's a world in which this could ever be "good".
They need to fricking stop doing action movies with past-their-prime geriatric old men and uncharismatic, unsexy women.
Cruise also had a younger co-star in that movie who's fairly popular, or at least a lot more so than Phoebe Wallaby. Also everybody in that movie was fit and attractive which is a novelty these days.
old lady Pheebs looks still in her prime when standing next to some white-haired boomer. see pic rel. a woman is ALWAYS in her prime (except before age 25 that's creepy).
She actually looks nice in the photo on the left.
>I sure don't know shit, can an old man survive that shit?
Old man BFM is pretty crazy when you're the aggressor in the exercise and they are outflying you at every turn. So, yes. It's plausible.
Probably if they ended Indiana Jones series there
Possibly. Guess we’ll never know now.
With de-aged Ford the whole movie maybe
Nope, top gun was like technical perfection mixed with nostalgia, nobody cares about geriatric indiana jones, also crystall skull already cashed up the nostalgia
If they'd gone back to beautiful and amazing practical sets, daring stunts and cool as hell artifact hunting with Indy being vulnerable but still the man in charge, it would have easily pandered to those who wanted Indy to have one last crazy ride enough to reach at least break-even point.
Thing is, before TLJ, you could at least get them in the door by hype of the new characters returning, followed by a brutal collapse propped up entirely by 3 days of success, but in a post TLJ film world people just aren't that stupid anymore. They know Indy's going to get put down, made fun of, and replaced by a British brunette. If it had been good, it might've had some real legs and pulled out of the spiral, but confirming it? Nah.
Imagine making one of the most expensive movies ever and it getting jobbed by a low-budget Mel Gibson QAnon-bait movie lol
Disney is obsessed with taking legacy characters and making them old and pathetic. Indy has the same basic character arc in Dial of Destiny as in the Sequel Trilogy. The only difference is you could tell they pivoted last minute to Helena saving him, and adding in him reuniting with his wife.
There is 100% an ending out there where Indy dies in the past, and Helena picks up his hat to carry on his mantle.
Didn’t someone post a cam rip image of exactly this?
I really want to see these alternate cuts, but they will be too afraid to release or even "leak" them.
#ReleaseTheKennedyCut
That's capitalism.
They knew it way back in 2021 already
The director got mad at this tweet btw
His tantrums on Twatter were more entertaining than Indy 5. Well, I assume. I ain't watching this shit.
>~~*Mangold*~~ seethes on Twitter
Imagine my shock
>this movie flops
>Little Nigmaid doesn't
While I'm generally happy to see this garbage fail, I'm afraid the wrong lessons will be learned here. Both movies were woke but Little Nigmaid was more woke, specifically racially
They may argue the bomb was a result of white leads (particularly Indy)
Little mermaid lost between $50-$100 million
Not anywhere near as bad as this movie so my point still stands
>Not anywhere near as bad as this movie so my point still stands
You said Little Mermaid didn't flop. It did. Just like your post.
Our definitions of "flop" differ
The point was it did significantly less badly
>Not anywhere near as bad as this movie so my point still stands
No it doesn't
Nigmaid doesn't
Yes, it flopped. It cost $250 mil (without marketing costs) and only made $550 mil. At best it broke even.
Don't worry, there's a Haunted Mansion movie coming out this month with a black lead that's absolutely going to flop.
It's coming out this month? A Haunted Mansion movie? Mid-summer? Are they moronic?
And it cost $150 million dollars! It's real. Not making this up. July 28th.
>Haunted Mansion
They'll just blame it being a weak mostly forgotten IP (which it is admittedly)
>there's a Haunted Mansion movie coming out this month
I've never heard of this before, what the frick
>Budget $157.8 million
Disney is gonna bleed so much money this year
I legit don’t think Disney has profited from a single movie this year. And it’s not even over yet.
The only movies I can think of in the last two years that didn’t outright flop are Guardians 3 and Doctor Strange 2. Not a good showing for anything not capeshit
Yeah I was wrong Guardians 3 was a hit but not an overwhelming one and certainly not enough to recoup the losses from their 10 other flops this year
They won't have one. Look at their release slate for the rest of 2023
>Chevalier
"true" story of black composer in 18th century France
>A Haunting in Venice
Next in the Branagh Poirot murder mysteries. First one did well considering the budget. Death on the Nile doubled the budget and flopped. This one has by far the worst cast. No one cares
>The Marvels
Already been pushed back once this year. People are tired of superheroes and this girlpower shit isn't going to change that.
>Wish
Brown princess animation
All of these will flop.
>A Haunting in Venice
>Starring Kyle Allen, Camille Cottin, Jamie Dornan, Tina Fey, Jude Hill, Ali Khan, Emma Laird, Kelly Reilly, Riccardo Scamarcio, and Michelle Yeoh
Who the frick even are most of these people, what is he thinking
why would they put that much money into a flick then put 4/6 blacks on the cover? like waving a red flag that this movie isn't for anyone who isn't black
Why would they fricking put that much money in a HAUNTED HOUSE film? The film should take place in a single fricking building!
A Haunted Mansion movie again? With blacks again?
Eddie Murphy made a forgettable film 20 years ago, so that means it's a "black" franchise forever.
>hey remember when we made that haunted mansion movie that bombed?
>let's do the same thing again a decade later but spend even more money!
Had to look up the old film for the first time and holy shit it why would you remake this?
Because anon. It exists. It's a brand. There's a haunted mansion ride at Disney World. People know what that is already. Better make a movie about it, then a Disney+ spinoff series and mountains of merchandise that will go on sale at Walmart.
Wait, it's coming out in July and not fricking Halloween? The frick.
there's already mountains of merchandise just for the ride and it sells like hotcakes and has for years
They're still hoping to strike gold again with another pirates of the caribbean type ride-to-movie thing for "synergy" and haunted mansion is the next most popular ride that's not based on a movie so when they greenlit this thing they probably thought they could overwrite the eddie murphy one and try again. But this one looks equally shit and obviously they didn't anticipate having a string of box office bombs this year which will make people even less inclined to give it a chance.
This won't even crack $100 million.
ponder the orb (and the smell)
every movie must have at least a few black in it now
black don't crack ($100m)
>half are black
It’s almost like they have agenda
Little Mermaid completely bombed internationally and is the least successful of the "disney renaissance" era remakes, the rest of which made over $1bil.
No matter how much woke koolaid the Disney suits have consumed, deep down they know that it would have been far more successful if Ariel looked like the cartoon.
>No matter how much woke koolaid the Disney suits have consumed, deep down they know that it would have been far more successful if Ariel looked like the cartoon.
Naomi Scottt as the mermaid: 1.1 billion.
There's a latina pornstar who looks just like her and likes to swallow.
Name?
Reminder that they had full confidence in this movie. They premiered it at Cannes six weeks before it was released in theaters. This wasn't a "oh shit, we fricked up. Minimize, and do damage control. Put out this fire" situation. No. Two months ago they had expectations of this being THE movie of the summer.
They were legitimately banking on this doing Avatar 2 numbers.
They just updated the article with new info on the budget. Apparently it was closer to 500 million before marketing
Based Harrison gives no fricks. He’s flying a plane.
Was it even that bad of a movie? Or was it just completely dull and forgettable hence why no one gave a shit about its existence?
No, it suffered from the worst fate any piece of art can. It was mediocre.
Disney needs to reign in their budgets and swap out everyone at lucasfilm. I’m honestly shocked they haven’t let Favreau run the place by now
>Disney needs to reign in their budgets and swap out everyone at lucasfilm. I’m honestly shocked they haven’t let Favreau run the place by now
It's entirely possible Lucas made sure that disney can't fire anyone, and LucasFilm handles their own internal affairs. Pure speculation. But yeah, they are acting like pre-2019 "business as usual" where everything they shit out makes over 1 billion. People broke the habit of going to the movies, and they need to get them back. It's entirely possible theaters are just dying and being phased out before our eyes.
I'd say it's moderately entertaining, but nothing to write home about.
I don't think Little Mermaid flopped. It probably made a slight profit.
It was not a profitable movie, at most it broke even or lost a few million.
>I don't think Little Mermaid flopped. It probably made a slight profit.
Sure, if you can't do basic fricking math. We know it's budget was minimum 250. I say minimum because it turns out Disney's been lying their asses off about the production budget this whole time, the recent stuff from the UK revealed their "275 million" Age of Ultron cost a gross of 444 and net of 365, and Rise of Skywalker was gross of 495 million and net of 440 million production, not marketing, budget. But that's besides the point, let's pretend it's 250 million just like they said, no more no less. Then let's also play stupid pretend and say they got 60 percent of every ticket sale. Now, you'd be moronic for thinking that especially with international takes, but we're being as generous as possible here. So, then in this case, 420 million worldwide is break even, no profit made but nothing lost. Then let's go full moron and say the advertising budget was just 100 million. That's it, 150 million for one of the Disney tentpoles. Sound stupid because we know from the Black Widow lawsuit they normally spend upwards of 200? It is! But let's be stupid. 150 million, a full 100 less of the production budget.
It loses 20 million dollars in this hypothetical scenario.
Now, taking in mind we made a lot of assumptions all in Disney's favor, some of which are downright ludicrous, and it still didn't make a profit, ergo...
Yeah this fricker flopped hard.
There's also opportunity cost, right? Like, you can't just make a profit for it to be profitable, you gotta make more of a profit than could've predictably been made by investing the money in something else. Even if that's just the interest on a generic portfolio.
>Ant-Man 3 flopped
>The Little Mermaid flopped
>Transformers flopped
>Elemental flopped
>Shazam 2 flopped
>Renfield flopped
>Fast X flopped
>Dungeons and Dragons flopped
>The Flash flopped
>Indiana Jones 5 flopped
>Pixar mermaid movie flopped
There is no way that Hollywood doesn't course correct after this year. They can't go ahead and make 20 more MCU movies after all these failures. July might be the only profitable month in this entire year and we're only halfway
Did D&D really flop?
That's a shame
The best part is we might see another year or two of flops like these, because these films take half a decade to make. If they started mildly course correcting in 2020 during the pandemic time, we won't see the real results until next year or the year after.
Yeah that's what really hurts for Hollywood, these movies have been in production for years. They have no choice but to release them. So it's not likely that they're gonna change their business model since they don't even have the momentum for any change. Coupled with the writers strike and death of movie theaters, cinema is just fricked. Scorsese was right about everything
>They have no choice but to release them.
Warners new owners literally shelved a Batgirl movie that had Michael Keaton in it that cost $100 mil
>death of movie theaters
I think the death of movie theatres is a bit overstated on this board. There's clearly going to be a reduction in their number, but I don't think it's going away as a primary distribution model any time soon.
They're not dead but they are dying slowly. The box office numbers in 2023 compared to 2019 are unbelievable
I think one of the problems is we've gone backwards in projector quality. A 35mm film frame could hold the equivalent of a 6k digital video frame worth of data. Cinema projectors currently project at a 4k resolution. Plus you have the major issue of the public losing any semblance of manners over the last 30 years. People look at their phones every couple of minutes, they talk loudly, they eat hot meals, etc. If cinemas could fix those two issues I'd go much more often. The latter might be impossible at this point.
Also they can't course correct while the writers strike is still on and if the actors strike too they'll be at a standstill.
>writers strike
half the shit that comes out already seems like it was written by chatGPT, might as well just use it for real
That's okay, I've got dozens of my dad's old DVDs to watch while Hollywood implodes
April was profitable because Mario. The Cruise Missile will be fine, as will (probably) Barbie and Le Bomb Man but I can’t see anything like the Marvels even turning a profit. 2023’s going to be in textbooks as that year old Hollywood died
>(probably) Barbie
I hope not. The shills have been very obnoxious with this one.
If Mission: Impossible does well, that throws a wrench in the idea that films are just "dying." It comes down to the content being made. You can't tell me you can't make a Cruise-level movie for $400 million dollars. That's just a fricking lie. You're simply refusing to.
>There is no way that Hollywood doesn't course correct after this year.
They won't. They will keep doubling down.
Once they change their business model then that will be a good thing though. We'll have a return of mid-budget movies. It won't be viable anymore to make 50 superhero movies anymore or 30 sequels and reboots of old franchises. They'll have to take risks and draw in audiences in different ways... I mean I hope so.
>There is no way that Hollywood doesn't course correct after this year
You naive fool
Was transformers any good? I like Beast Wars
The only people who like Indiana Jones are middle aged manchildren, and kids with effeminate dads.
I can't beleive you morons still haven't realized the pattern yet
>use old IP to make money
>subvert & destroy it with woke propaganda
>delivered the propaganda and destroyed old kino to make room for the new age
2 birds with one stone
I'dve throught you homosexuals would see the pattern by now with what they did with star wars
but I guess pattern recognition has been successfully eliminated by the marxists teachers in your schools
If you recognize patterns so well, then “name them,” anon.
Lord have mercy. This one didn’t have a nuclear bomb; it *is* a nuclear bomb.
When /ourjew/ gonna strike the mouse?
pushing back avatar 3 to fit in more star wars and marvel is going to prove to be a huge mistake
It's actually so funny that Avatar returned after a 13 year hiatus and destroyed every other franchise movie that had legions of fans hating on Cameron for years
imagine if he actually had made a good movie instead of whale farts for 2 hours, he would have annihilated everyone.
I remember there being long years of
>why the frick did people go watch Avatar so many times?
and then Cameron did it again. At this point people don't even bother asking why.
What's more funny that Disney never made any money from Avatar 2, Cameron made most of the profit
Cameron is like some Third World whisperer. He gets that they're simple people, respond well to both spectacle, as well as stories about families. Strong husbands, strong mothers, close family bonds. This kind of movie is impossible to make in today's Hollywood. You get old gen like Cameron or Tom Cruise who make films the older style, without any weird feminist subtext all over it, and they do well.
Right on the money. Everyone is confused about why Cameron is so successful but just look at the themes of all his movies. They're all about family and love and protection. They have all the spectacle of Hollywood but none of the ideas that we typically see in movies these days, and those ideas are what bring in the billions since they have more appeal. TLDR Hollywood is fricking moronic and Cameron has outsmarted them
All of the greatest works of narrative art are family dramas... The Godfather, Anna Karenina & War and Peace, The Sopranos. Soap operas get more viewers than Hollywood movies by far. And yet you look at movies today and they're all about emasculating men and showing desolation. Luke Skywalker is a hermit who tried to kill his nephew, Indiana Jones is a depressed alcoholic going through a divorce. It's the polar opposite of what people actually respond to which is companionship, family and love.
It's interesting, I'm reading through the first Dune novel right now, and as I'm reading it I'm asking myself, why did *this* novel become the "big" sci-fi novel? Why not any of the ones churned out by Asimom, or Clarke, or Heinlein, etc.? And Dune is kind of middling on the whole "sci-fi" aspect of the genre anyway.
Then, as I read the book, I get it. All the best parts of Dune are the dramatic parts, between characters. And all the worst parts are the world-building (unless it's done in service of a character).
Meanwhile, all the "greats" of sci-fi are just focused on world-building, or the specific book's sci-fi ideas. The Foundation is a great series in a lot of ways, but man, when it isn't giving you some novel idea or situation to think about, it sure is a fricking boring read. (Especially today, now that all the ideas from these sci-fi authors are so baked into the culture that we've all heard all of them a hundred times already. But Dune doesn't have that problem. The drama between the characters is as compelling today as it was 60 years ago. Which, y'know, it's kind of a pulpy novel, so it isn't Shakespeare, but it's not terrible.)
Speaking as a fan of Niven, Hienlen and Asimov, Dune blows their best out of the water. And I'm not a character enjoyer, give me hard crunchy settings to explore, doesn't matter, Dune still beats the best at their own game.
Brothers Karamazov is the epitome of a family drama too.
James Cameron knows how to pander to the primitive asiatic and african mind, they know what was life before industrialization, their collectivistic tendencies are appreciated and celebrated throughout the avatar franchise
Everyone knows why movies like these are successful. The studios just actively don't want to make them. They hate traditional values that have been ingrained in people since the dawn of time. No, you can't have a strong bond with your family. You need a "found" family that consists of people of every race in the rainbow, and at least one notable cripple.
Exactly. It's a psychological assault. These are war tactics, put plainly. Designed to demoralize an entire population. Thankfully people are starting to realize what's going on. Gonna be interesting seeing what comes next.
it's literally backdoor money transactions, money laundering at this point by the elites. God's children are NOT for sale.
Why is anyone surprised?
Dr Strange was 290 million and got reported as 200 million
>>$400m budget BEFORE marketing
You know how people were claiming the leaks weren't real because scenes didn't match up?
If this thing was $400 million before marketing, I can believe they filmed those scenes but left them after the internal screening (or whatever) went badly.
New leaks say that a lot of the budget also went to other KK projects like the acolyte
>all the execs and actors go their 5-35 million dollar payment/bonus
>blackrock egs money picks up the tab
>journalists burn candle at both ends to find a villain to blame and praise the slop
Lol they don’t care, why should I?
So what you're saying is that money is fake and Marx was right about everything
No. Capitalism and communism are identical. They are both materialist, atheist, globalist, imperialist systems run by managerial and financial types of conniving character, which ultimately leads to people being understood as consumption-production units, and a small elite owning everything. That wall street israelites in NY funded bolshevik israelites in russia, and they both teamed up to destroy monarchy and fascism should make this clear enough. Wanting to build a society around an economic idea is like buttoning your shirt with the first button in the wrong hole. The economy must serve the nation, a nation cannot serve an economy. Aristocracy of the sage and warrior is closest to nature and therefore the only legitimate system of government.
>evola
That an entire civilization has been constructed on comfy sounding ideas contrary to observations of reality is proof that feels > reals.
Chuds are always right.
lmao its another 15 year old "genius" quoting his favourite edgelord. Get a shower and get laid you miserable frick.
yes. His solution was wrong but everything else was right
His labour theory of value was wrong.
Pretty crazy, the first two pirates of the Caribbean movies were under 200m each with amazing set pieces, choreography, big actors, impressive CGI.
What the FRICK is Disney doing?
It’s really sad that Indiana Jones 5 has already been utterly forgotten and people have such little interest that most of the discussion about it relates to its box office earnings and status as a media product. Even capeshit and Star Wars got more people talking about the story. But no one cares at all about Indiana Jones. I have no clue why they made another one.
It's over.
lmao this place is truly third worlders and reddit rejects
I didn't even know the full title of it until reading this post
Honestly though it’s better than crystal skull and Star Wars 7-9. I’m impressed they got Harrison ford to give a shit and actually act. Indiana Jones is his best character.
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oh shit
i watched the camrip while my trans gf gave me an epic blowjob and we both enjoyed it. only rightoid grifters like this got triggered:
https://rumble.com/v2xxmie-indiana-jones-and-the-obnoxious-girl-boss-dial-of-destiny-review.html
the future is female and her name is pheebie
not watching your shit video, gay
disney just needs to stop trying with movies for a while.
their streaming catalogue and parks should be more than enough money to float by while they figure this shit out and hire talent with new ideas
Disney+ is actually a disaster and they haven't profited from it yet. Next year they're merging with Hulu
thats prob just due to the massive money theyve sunk into failed projects like willow and the MCU/star wars tv shows.
what im saying is if they just halted all new content for a while and saved that money to buy new talent maybe they can salvage the brand
>and parks
anon.....i.......
>park attendance in decline
>a little bit, because of record-breaking hot temperatures
So not go woke go broke. Go global warming go broke.
I live in Orange County, and it's like, in the 80s here, lmao. I dunno about the rest of the world, but it's standard fricking summer temps.
>Climate change is causing record high temps which is preventing s-yboy normalgay NPC consoomers from going to disneyland/world
meat eaters and gas car drivers...we're winning.
Pretty sure disney world ranked as the #1 most visited theme park in the world last year and all disney parks were in the top 10
Besides hellish temperatures in summer, they also use dynamic pricing so tickets are a lot more expensive in the summer and other "vacation" seasons which keeps crowd levels lower but they still make the same money.
Well, that's the last huge paycheck for Ford, but the old boy had a good run. Let's all give him a round of applause.
>its true because the screenshot says so
surprisingly good thread
The Little Mermaid (2023) cost $250M and also flopped.
Yeah I'm betting the next filing is going to change that 2 to a 3 or 4.
>cost $250M
Looking at recent revelations, I'm not surprised it costs a lot fricking more than that.
Before the thread dies can someone explain why they make movies in the UK if they cost way more
They don't cost more there, they're just required to reveal production costs due to government regulations for reimbursement, which they try and hide by creating shell companies with different names. Wouldn't surprise me if they inflate those costs for British production specifically for a larger reimbursement.
They get some money back for filming there.
>>$400m budget BEFORE marketing
No fricking way, where is that money in the movie?
CGI de-aging effects cost a lot
this guy would've played the role for free (and a hot meal)
Plain and simple :
If you need :
-Badass women
-Boundaryless interracial relationships with blacks
- to twerk
- to produce movies of ethnics in a starring role
- to produce antiwhite movies
-plotlines with women who are in unstable places and from your wild recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful
I am not the right audience for you .