Insider here, Barbie is gonna flop next. WB is going to sell off everything starting with DC Studios.
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Insider here, Barbie is gonna flop next. WB is going to sell off everything starting with DC Studios.
Who are the potential buyers?
WB
Can't wait for Warner Brothers Hasbro.
snyder
China
Tencent buying DC at a steep-discount sounds pretty garbage but very plausible tbqh
People seriously are moronic when they talk about tencent. Tencent only buys stakes, they don't buy things outright
What the frick you're on about they've brought multiple game studios outright
one example
Tencent would never. Universal might. Netflix stands to gain the most since their in desperate need of a mega IP to draw customers in. If Paramount goes under they could probably snatch Avatar Studios which is a massive win.
Will they start making good movies again
Not my problem
This is bullshit. Disney is worse than wb and they don't think about selling anything
How is Disney worse? They're in about the same amount of debt except Disney has bigger cashflows and assets.
>How is Disney worse? They're in about the same amount of debt except Disney has bigger cashflows and assets.
>bigger cash flows & assets
>he doesn’t know
Not that poster Anon but Disney owes Comcast 27 billion by next year and they only have 200 million. WBD has a 50 debt they financed over the years, of that a 5B bill due by the end of next year of which they paid 1.5B. Disney is in a worse position. This has been the ongoing shit storm since the beginning of the month and shit is just getting worse considering they went to arbitration and the super master sided with Comcast
That said the last thing WBD will sell is DC. It’s definitely on the table but not now
>Disney owes Comcast 27 billion by next year
Holy mackerel.
Some bullshit with Hulu. Disney is contractually obligated to buy Comcast's stake by next year and so far the courts are not being lenient in the slightest
This Chapek's fault or Iger's?
Probably Iger. If he didn’t buy Fox they’d have zero problems coming up with the cash for the Hulu deal. This isn’t to say Chapek is blameless though because they’d also have the cash if he didn’t go full throttle on alienating the main demographic that buys their stuff (parents of young children)
Also I just remembered another layer to the frickening lmao. Normally for something like this Disney would take out a loan, but because Jerry’s Fun Time Free Money Printer isn’t so cheap anymore Disney wouldn’t be able to afford the interest on the loan, meaning that the only option left is to start selling IPs and/or land holdings
>we will see the collapse of mega-conglomerates in our lifetimes
>possibly within this decade
We might avoid cyberpunk dystopia after all
not at all
this is all part of the process of getting us to that future. Once these companies are forced to sell, guess who buys them up? Investment companies. Over time these companies will also merge.
You are getting ass raped right now, but it is happening too slow for your average person to see it. This is how they win.
How is one conglomerate falling to an ever bigger one an end?
When Disney bought fox, they inherited the contract of fox with Comcast; which said they were contractually obligated to buy the rest of their shares at market value. Many years ago that was worth 9B, now it’s worth 27B because Hulu is now worth 70 Billion. Disney is trying to slip off with paying 9B and the arbitrator isn’t allowing it, they’re agreeing with Comcast that it’s worth 27B. Iger knew this when buying Fox.
>This Chapek's fault or Iger's?
Iger for having a big ego to bid on Fox.
Why does Disney owe Comcast so much money?
>Disney owes Comcast 27 billion by next year and they only have 200 million
And their shareholders are about to send D+ to the shadow realm for how badly the books were cooked. And their merch sales are fricked because it’s all based on the nu-shit nobody watched in theaters and therefore doesn’t want to buy. It’s impressive how comprehensively fricked every single level of the Disney conglomerate is and yet nobody there is publicly sounding any alarm or trying to turn things around
Disney™+ And the other streaming systems are screwed except for Netflix. What the hell is going on with this business scheme?
Same thing that's been going on with tech in general
>we'll operate at a loss and then in the future when we have subscribers we'll monetized them... somehow...
I think we're a while away from this being a viable business model.
so we will go back to tv syndication it seems
>It’s impressive how comprehensively fricked every single level of the Disney conglomerate is and yet nobody there is publicly sounding any alarm or trying to turn things around
As an outsider I would be inclined to believe that they will be propped up by 3rd parties as long as the message they deliver in their content aligns with their sugar daddy.
I don't know if people are aware of this but Comcast is already the parent company of Disney. Look it up
>I don't know if people are aware of this but Comcast is already the parent company of Disney. Look it up
I know this is a shit post but Iger will never give Comcast their stock, let alone 27 Billion dollars. It would make them the majority shareholder and takeover the company from vanguard, blackrock, and Berkshire. Iger’s other alternative to selling intellectual properties like this anon said
is to sell the entire company to Apple
apple is honestly the worst company out of all of them. they're just straight up militant wokeness with how they gatekeep technology on their platforms
Microsoft gays deserve the rope
Prehistoric planet was woke garbage.
Selling to Apple would only happen if Iger wants a golden parachute considering the price tag would be twice if not more than the market valuation of Disney. And I am sure he owns a lot of stock in the company.
>Whatever the valuation is, Disney still owns 2/3. If they can't afford to buy out Comcast they can just sell it
Yeah, about that; they can’t sell it either which is pretty funny. Comcast has the right to execute the contract to Disney and no one wants to buy Hulu from Disney. It’s why we are in this position to begin with
>piecemeal
It’s not going to happen considering these properties are so intertwined now + most of the value in these properties is Batman for DC and Spider-Man for Marvel.
>they can’t sell it either
That isn't true and makes no sense. The value of Hulu is based on what it could be sold for (with a floor of 27 billion). It can't be worth $70 billion for the purpose of buying out Comcast and $0 for the purpose of selling it.
>The value of Hulu is based on what it could be sold for (with a floor of 27 billion). It can't be worth $70 billion
That’s the thing though, Wall Street & industrial analysts placed Hulu at $70B. Comcast said they want 27B. Disney wants to pay the old price of 9B. It’s why they’re in arbitration in the first place, and the super master in arbitration isn’t lenient at all with Disney. If they get hit with the 27B, they’re fricked. And Iger keeps on doubling down on how important Hulu is to them so basically there’s no where to go but forward with this purchase.
You're sort dancing around the point here. An accessed valuation doesn't mean anything if there is a sale, because a sale would give an ACTUAL valuation. It's not the existential threat to Disney you're making it out to be, because they can always pull the ripcord of selling Hulu.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2574808/comcast-offers-to-buy-disney-for--66b.amp.html
The Comcast Roberts family has been trying to buy out Disney for ages.
Honestly think it's Comcast fricking over Disney for out bidding them for Fox
Apple is the worst because it’s run by a homosexual ceo.
Disney about to lose billion dollars at the box office
So you are telling me disney has to find a way to shit out 70 billion dollars?
>So you are telling me disney has to find a way to shit out 70 billion dollars?
No anon, they need to shit out 27 billion dollars by 2024 for comcast, which is the amount that comcast’s shares are worth in Hulu (Hulu as a whole is worth 70 billion). Before when Fox was a thing, it was worth 27-30 billion and comcast’s shares were worth 9-10 billion. It’s since increased in value.
Do u think they have that money?
>Do u think they have that money?
No one thinks they have that money, everyone knows they don’t. There’s going to be real concessions going on and like the other anon said, a lot of their properties they’ve acquired will be sold off. The next earnings call is going to be a mess
Disney is its own company. WB is already owned by another company, and by another company before
Marvel is the normie brand that everyone loves. You have to be a real fan of superheroes to like DC.
They liked the Avengers when it still had RDJ and Evans. Now that they’re gone, they don’t care anymore. Spider-Man as always will continue to be globally popular.
How much is wb worth?
Is it true that gunn also controls the DC brand in video games?
I don't know Barbie seems like the only think that might make money for them this year.
All the femoids I know want to see that.
But they are on the brink of bankruptcy.
Barbie is feminist trash and muh patriarchy schizo bullshit, the plot got leaked and Dune 2 has a better chance
as if young people don't actually want that. every girl i know is gonna see it and conservatives will seethe about it for months
Barbie has been a femininst icon for decades you fricking moron. Do you fricking idiots ever bother to understand shit before whining about it?
you're the dumbfrick who doesn't understand this new barbie movie is actually about how barbie is misogynistic towards women, the true feminism is subverting it and showing how barbie is bad
My wife and I can't wait to see Barbie, it looks absolutely unhinged
i love how our government and hollywood are both full of leaders who are nose diving our country into the ground as fast as they can
one thing that scares me is when woke companies realize that with capitalism they can't survive this way. i'm afraid that's when they will really start trying to make us socialist
they are way ahead of you anon
you can not succeed without the blessing of the state bankers anymore, all major companies have been de facto nationalized
Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street are all about to be fricked hard by civil lawsuits when more boomers start to realize how fricked over they were on their pensions.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4059114-a-lawsuit-waiting-to-happen-esg-violates-fiduciary-duty-to-investors/
no court will ever rule for them in a fiduciary case because shareholder supremacy and fiduciary responsibility are the bedrocks of the financial system.
the fed has been bailing them out but hyper inflation is a much larger threat to the oligarchs than throwing ESG and a few fat cat money managers under the bus. the ESG nightmare will end because the money is going to run out.
And here enters the final boss: I present to you Cede & Co. They are the actual owners of 99% of every company stock that’s traded on US exchanges and there’s already been court rulings that they’re the ones that fiduciary duty is actually owed to. Yes it’s incredibly Talmudic and was done to make ~~*high frequency trading*~~ more ~~*efficient*~~ once hedge funds started using computer algorithms instead of meat suits on the NYSE floor, but there’s also a way to opt out and get the shares you own to have your name on them and I have a feeling the boomers would do that en masse if they get burned on a lawsuit like that
Cede and Co.
It never ends does it?
27 billion is the valuation of Hulu as a whole, Disney only has to buy out the 33% Comcast owns. And they could also sell it if they had to
>27 billion is the valuation of Hulu as a whole, Disney only has to buy out the 33% Comcast owns. And they could also sell it if they had to
Anon, it’s hulu’a worth 70 billion. Not 27, that was years ago when Fox was gobbled. Now the price tag is 27 billion, Disney wants to pay the old prices and Comcast said no
Whatever the valuation is, Disney still owns 2/3. If they can't afford to buy out Comcast they can just sell it
>two more weeks!
all these tumbling entertainment companies are trying to dump their shitty companies on someone else. so many people selling out these days. i never thought i'd say this but i kinda feel bad for comcast for turning hulu into a highly profitable business and then having fox play some shell game where they promise to pay for it later, then sell their company to disney, who now also doesn't want to pay comcast. wtf??
>i kinda feel bad for comcast
Please don’t. They deserve the rope as much as anyone else, if for nothing else than their godawful isp customer “service”
So what's the endgame? Disney and WB IPs are sold off - to who? Amazon? Apple? Chinese firms?
>So what's the endgame? Disney and WB IPs are sold off - to who? Amazon? Apple? Chinese firms?
Your guess is as good as ours, nobody really knows. Amazon, Sony, EA, Activision Blizzard, Apple, Netflix, etc. Anyone that has money in the range of 5-15B+ can without a doubt buy something up. Pic related
Marvel without a doubt will be sold for more than the original sticker price to twice the amount they bought it for, that much I’m sure.
sad but not surprised
>Barbie is gonna flop next
the cast keeps saying how genius the director/script is, feels like cope
Any chance they sell DC off piecemeal style?
Batman to Sony. Superman to Apple. Wonder Woman, Flash, and Aquaman to Netflix.
DC would never be sold that way, it'd be all or nothing
>Barbie is gonna flop
NO SHIT
This could’ve all been avoided if Iger didn’t purchase all these companies. Darkwing Duck and the Italian Duck Avenger is a lot more popular than Marvel & Star Wars combined here in Europe
In hindsight it was a bad idea but at the time it was lauded as a big power play from Disney since the MCU was doing gangbusters and Star Wars was Star Wars. Having all of the big IPs under their banner would cement them as the highest media company going forward. Then Covid happened and fricked up theaters and film schedules and theme parks. They put a moron in charge of Star Wars, and Cape fatigue finally set it
Makes me think why doesn't Disney invest in making high-budget animation film about the Duck family?
I knew the Ducktales reboot wasn't a success, but the Donald and Scrooge are still loved in many parts of the world.
Plus people wouldn't just preemptively boycotted it like live action movies.
why dont they saudi buy it off? They have the money
>why dont they saudi buy it off? They have the money
When the dumb rumor from doomwiener said a oil prince is buying Star Wars, the Saudi and Emirati media came out immediately 2 days after saying they aren’t buying it and would rather invest in profitable ventures. Disney was also made the butt of jokes on their social media trends
>Saudi
lol
It's hard to imagine, but the quality would certainly get worse. The message might be better, maybe. But I imagine everything else to be worse.
Frick it, let it happen. Let's goooo.
How can it get worse than they gay homosexualry they push now.
They are going for the Japanese market sorry Anime and Video Games much more profitable
japanese are willing to sell?
They've obly bought SNK which was already bought out by the Chinese, japs didn't really have a say
No, snk was reincorporated in China which is how they got it
That would be interesting but they denied it on their tv news channels after the doomcuck said it would be a arab. They went as far as putting salt to the wound saying they only invest in profitable ventures
>profitable ventures
Lmao gulf arabs are in full panic mode because their oil golden goose is beginning to slow down in profitability and they are desperately trying to find the next one by investing in everything in sight. Trust me they would absolutely buy DC if the opportunity came knocking.
This is wrong, Saudis are going after pro sports now
Barbie is the most hyped-up movie of the year and every single zoomer and millennial is going to watch it. It's a feminist movie that shits on men and it's going to be a pivotal culture war moment. There's no way in hell it's gonna flop.
>every single zoomer and millennial is going to watch it.
I doubt this. Many of them are woke, yes, but not as many as people think. Twitter, Youtube etc. twist perception of people. Most zoomers don't even go to the movies.
And because the movie itself seems to be a subversion of Barbie, that is most likely alienating little girls, who just want Barbie stuff without some Susan Sontag deconstruction shit they don't even understand. Some of their mothers are millenials, some are late gen x and I have a feeling many of them are also not as woke as you think. I could be wrong though, but I think the movie is gonna flop. It's gonna be subversive, which most likely means it will also be boring to mass audiences. And it'll definitely feel like a film that thinks it is smarter than it actually is.
Thr barbie movie is clearly aimed at millennial on downthat grew up with Barbie, not little girls today, who hardly even play with dolls anymore
I don't know a single person who has mentioned Barbie from the silent generation to gen alpha.
Gut it all
>The Saudis buy DC
>Cancel all the gay shit
>Use them to make SNK movies like Fatal Fury and Metal Slug, and Samurai Shodown
>Netflix buys DC
>Snyder makes Justice League Part 2 and 3
Kino awaits
>wanting pozflix to own DC
Enjoy black Batman and Superman
Warner will make a black Superman movie anyway
Barbie will flop because not even women give a frick about ebil men and female empowerment. the only women who care about it are eggless cat ladies.
they'd never sell DC
one speed bump doesn't stop the cash cow from being milked
This, DC is one of the few valuable IPs in Warners possession, they'd be idiots to sell it unless they were extremely desperate
This.
DC is one good core IP reboot (AKA Batman or Superman) away from absolutely obliterating what's left of the MCU. That said expect them to pivot away from expensive and played out interconnected garbage like Flash or the rest of the DCU and focus instead on isolated standalone IPs and film series' a la The Batman or how superhero movies were done in the 90s.
Wrong, the Authority will be introduced in the Superman Legacy movie. Gunn is going full interconnected universe.
The advanced screening for Barbie at my regular theatre is almost sold out. It's just the front row left. Indiana Jones opens in two days and it's sold about 14 tickets. I'm expecting Barbie to be a sleeper hit
That’s pretty much my take also. The only reason I’m not watching it is because the optics of a random twenty-something sperg that doesn’t have a gf dragging him there isn’t something I’m ready to explain, but I would guess that every woman that grew up with the dolls would at least consider buying tickets
>but teevee says it’s hyperfemdom garbage
(a) normalgays don’t care about that as much as you’d think, and (b) that makes it accurate to the source material
>WB is going to sell off everything starting with DC Studios.
My brother and I were just talking about this. If Warner starts selling off crap like OP says, what companies would end up with which IPs?
>what companies would end up with which IPs?
No one knows, like another person said. It could be Sony, Netflix, EA, Activision Blizzard, etc. Anyone with a lot of money on hand and they all have money to burn. Some more than others (Ie Sony, EA, A-B)