they are not dreads those are box braids >b-but she's a beber moor sandnig not a subsahara american nig!
i don't know, i don't make the shows i just know those are box braids
not MY race war shit. i assume everyone here has some sort of culture war ulterior motive. you can ask a simple question or answer someone and then someone else will be like >LE NIGS! LE TRANNIES! LE CHUDS! LE RACIS! LE LATINX!
so yea sorry if you i thought you were one of those annoying morons (though you know if this thread takes off on this board it's gonna be because of those guys)
The animation style for this movie looks almost like they wanted to do what Klaus did without being willing to commit to the budget/work needed for it.
Wish has a budget of 200 million and Klaus only 40 million. Should've used all that money to find talented 2D animators instead of this half assed shit
Even the moors (arabs/berbers) don't like this because they made her look like a sub-saharan instead of a moor.
Just a movie for nobody except for ignorant americans.
>NOOOOOOOOO THESE DAMN MUSLIM MOORS CAME TO OUR SHITHOLE GOTH-ROMAN BACKWATER AND TURNED IT INTO THE INTELLECTUAL AND ARCHITECTUAL HUB WEST OF THE BYZANTINES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
do white christians really?
Based.
Europe was also based when they civilized Africa and the Middle East.
Too bad they choose to leave, so they both went back to the middle ages.
Civilizers are always based.
>leaving them in chaos isn't civilizing
Last I checked, they left them with a bunch of infrastructure, that some, luckily not all, of them literally blew up because it was made by the Europeans.
Even the moors (arabs/berbers) don't like this because they made her look like a sub-saharan instead of a moor.
Just a movie for nobody except for ignorant americans.
Were black Africans even common in Moorish Spain?
When medieval text talks about moors they include all the territory up to Ethiopia so...
the Muslim Andalusians were Arabs of the arabian peninsula and Syria and Berbers/Amazigh as well as a minority of other muslim ethnicities who came along with them like egyptians and Persians. You also had the Iberian and Visigothic converts, in fact the muslim visigoths were so powerful they challenged with the arab and berber dynasties for power. So no matter which why you cut it, the muslims of spain were brown or white. You had a minority of sub-saharan (sahel) africans in there of course but sahel africans are not the same as african-americans who are descended from west africans and congolese. The term "moor" refered to the Mauritanians, modern day morocco mauritania and parts of the surrounding countries. And yeah some medieval morons who clearly didnt pay attention in the abbots lecture would sometimes use it to refer to everyone south of europe but thats like how some of the medieval muslims callied every western european a "frank" even if they were scandinavian or italian
>And yeah some medieval morons who clearly didnt pay attention in the abbots lecture would sometimes use it to refer to everyone south of europe but thats like how some of the medieval muslims callied every western european a "frank" even if they were scandinavian or italian
So, do we have evidencie this is ancient shitposting or is just you assuming medieval scribes were moronic?
what I mean is moor meant mauritanian just as saracen meant syrian and nubian meant sudanese and ethiope meant ethiopian and if a medieval writer used the term incorrectly it shouldnt be taken as fact. Then again medieval scribes drew knights riding on snails and rabbit homies robbing people so...
Then how did powerful culturally more romanic than anything christian kingdoms that kicked them out came to be if moors were the local staple civilization?
andalusians were stereotyped as lazy, drunk and lusful by the rest of the muslim world and it seems like they were right. It also seems like nothing has changed
I can answer you that question, the muslims of al andalus were fractured into several small kingdoms that were at war with each other (so were the christian kingdoms to a certain degree, not war, but conflict ), the muslims were "helped" by almoravids and almohades which were berber muslims, this berber muslims were like the actual equivalent of today yihadists and they loathed anything arab, meanwhile other european Christian kingdoms helped the spanish kingdoms that were like a backwater civilization in comparation with them.
So that's what happened, the muslims of spain got helped by the wrong people and the christians spaniards got helped by the right people, that summed with the weakened state of most muslims kingdoms in spain after centuries of internal strife finished their presence in the Iberian peninsula.
Also here comes some good trivia, when christian nobles and kings wanted a doctor, they always hired either a israelite or a muslim, independiently of the public rejection of both religious groups.
Do modern disney movies even have villains anymore?
The trailer for this hints that it has a traditional villain. Generational trauma might be taking a break for this one.
Don't you dare think they won't try to be both
>Imagine a place where wishes come true. Where your heart's desire can become a reality. What if I told you that place is within reach? All you have to do is give your wish... to me.
Apparently when someone gives him their wish, he doesn't grant them, and instead erases their memory making them forget what they even wanted to begin with
Like in the animated version, Ursula gives her legs to be with Eric with the same stipulation of the 3 day kiss thing. Except LA Ursula erases Ariel's memory of the wish and want so she's just living her life in the real world not at all in love with Eric. It's moronic
>Apparently when someone gives him their wish, he doesn't grant them, and instead erases their memory making them forget what they even wanted to begin with
That doesn't sound so evil, it's a good solution to cure greed.
>In the Kingdom of Rosas, located off of the Iberian Peninsula, a 17-year-old girl named Asha senses a darkness that no one else does about the kingdom's ruler, King Magnifico. This eventually leads to her trying to make a passionate plea to the stars in a moment of need. Soon, an actual star from the sky named Star answers Asha's wish. After the star falls from the sky, it is revealed that the star has magical powers to grant wishes as well. Together, Asha and Star must overcome the evils rising in Rosas and fight for a better future in order to have something better than what they already have and for all dreams to come true for the people of Rosas
You can't have a fantasy Kingdom without fantasy names.
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Anonymous
Aladdin had fantasy names and they sounded arab/islamic. Agrabah isnt a real word in any language afaik yet it sounds like a place name in syria or iraq. Magnifico sounds more spanish then andalusian
9 months ago
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Haber muchacho, ¿Cómo piensas que suena el Andaluz?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Arabic? They were majority muslims and ruled by arab dynasites, or arabised berber and visigoth dynasties, so they wouldve used arabic or iberian languages mixed with arabic like modern day Maltan. Spanish only became widely spoken during/after the reconquista >had to use google translate for this
9 months ago
Anonymous
>No es bilingüe >piensa que otros son fracasados como él que necesitan traducir con Google
Que vergüenza.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Aladdin had fantasy names and they sounded arab/islamic
9 months ago
Anonymous
my homie, mechanikles and mozenrath are the only ones in this list that dont sound arab/islamic. Amin is a common first name ffs, and "Ghoul" is literally from arab mythology
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NTA, but I think he showed that as examples that they AREN'T fantasy names and are actually Arab
Yes. That reason was their complacency when dealing with the barbarians from the north and the hills. The Castilians shouldve been put to death, every last man, woman and child. Yet the Andalusians with their soft hearts and their laziness did nothing to put down the barbarians insolence and they paid dearly for it.
I know frick-all about Spanish history (apart that the reconquista happened and the inquisition kinda happened)
How was it before Moors?
During Moors?
After Moors?
Which time period do Spaniards see as their best time?
im not spanish so maybe you should ask the spaniards in here for their opinions, before Moors it was a roman province populated by the celtoberians and then conquered by visigothic kings. The Umayyads got involved in visigoth politics and then invaded. When the Umayyads fell Andalus never joined the new Abbasid caliphate and just sat there independent from the rest of the islamic world
>Which time period do Spaniards see as their best time?
We have an official favorite with a neat name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Golden_Age
princess is just "Amirah", "Sultanah" is queen, ladies had a bunch of terms, abbasid caliphate had "sitt" and "khatun" but I dont know if those terms were ever used by Moorish Spain since they were disconnected from the rest of the islamic world.
Look, I'm just asking for the bare minimum
Just give me fun songs, a fun villain, a moral that isn't broken or deconstructed by the film's own plot, and comic relief that doesn't want me to fire a bullet between my eyes
Are we getting raided? Why would anyone know or care what a moor is? People been hating black characters for so long, and now you suddenly have a PhD in blackology?
You'd need to be actually moronic to think blacks in medieval European setting is acceptable
t. from bumfrick southeast America with the worst education numbers around and still somehow not as stupid as you
Good, I'm happy to see more blacks in media. It heightens the contradictions, and gets people to argue about race. When all the princesses were white, all nonwhites would be able to do is grumble. When we get nonwhites in the limelight, we get more people yelling at each other. It's all about making things change, stagnation is death and if we get world peace or race war or segregation or sterilization, it's all change. I want to see things burn. If I have to live in a lib "utopia" that's dissapointing but at least it would be different. Everything fricking blows right now, and literally anything would be better. Frick it. Burn it all to the ground. Make batman a black trans woman. Make him say the N word.
I bet just before the worldwide release the lead actress will brag about how her character is queer like her. Then the right-wing media won't shut up about it. Then the movie bombs but the left tries to gaslight everyone into thinking that it's successful. Really it's just going to be a bad movie. The goat is no longer cute once it gets a deep, whiny, masculine voice. The star isn't as cute as the doom Luma. And the wish sucks.
Are those dreads?
they are not dreads those are box braids
>b-but she's a beber moor sandnig not a subsahara american nig!
i don't know, i don't make the shows i just know those are box braids
All I asked was if they were dreads, I didn't need the rest of your race war shit.
not MY race war shit. i assume everyone here has some sort of culture war ulterior motive. you can ask a simple question or answer someone and then someone else will be like
>LE NIGS! LE TRANNIES! LE CHUDS! LE RACIS! LE LATINX!
so yea sorry if you i thought you were one of those annoying morons (though you know if this thread takes off on this board it's gonna be because of those guys)
Maybe you should take a break if you're that sensitive.
you're right
im not cut out for this Cinemaphile shit
Is that Drumpf?
damn she ugly
>damn she ugly
>chud.jpg
newbie and shit taste
>newbie and shit taste
Thanks for proving me right.
They finally made something more embarrassing than Pocahontas. Congrats.
The animation style for this movie looks almost like they wanted to do what Klaus did without being willing to commit to the budget/work needed for it.
Wish has a budget of 200 million and Klaus only 40 million. Should've used all that money to find talented 2D animators instead of this half assed shit
>first Spanish Disney Princess in film
>She's a fricking Moor
Well Walt was a piece of shit that turned American Animated Movies into a near-monopoly, so now we're severely limited in options.
>severely limited
It's not Fleischer's or the Warner's faults that they couldn't compete with Disney.
Animation would have been abandoned as a novelty if not for Walt.
The Spanish Peninsula is rightful Muslim clay.
By right of conquest?
But then they conquested it back?
Imagine being Spanish and the first Disney Princess you get is a fricking Moor colonizer.
Oh no, poor Spaniards. That's awful. Must suck to have your culture obliterated.
nice one, carlos
Nice one, abdul.
Nice numbers, Juan
Somebody somewhere is drawing mahoma, Abdul.
Even the moors (arabs/berbers) don't like this because they made her look like a sub-saharan instead of a moor.
Just a movie for nobody except for ignorant americans.
>your ass is your source
When medieval text talks about moors they include all the territory up to Ethiopia so...
Ethiopia was Christian.
They would love it since spaniards are basedboy cucks
What the frick happened to Spain. Italy manages to be extremely right-wing, why can't Spain?
Facism for decades, so people went full moron after
Italians are just being contrary.
>Italy manages to be extremely right-wing
Meloni bros... someone tell him the truth
As a Latino, I'm laughing my ass off, get fricked Manolos
The first African-American Moorish Spanish princess
w-we're still white aren't we spanishisters?
no quiero ni moros ni Blacks en españa
aquí se come jamón serrano y butifarra
New Rapunzel just dropped.
>NOOOOOOOOO THESE DAMN MUSLIM MOORS CAME TO OUR SHITHOLE GOTH-ROMAN BACKWATER AND TURNED IT INTO THE INTELLECTUAL AND ARCHITECTUAL HUB WEST OF THE BYZANTINES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
do white christians really?
Based.
Europe was also based when they civilized Africa and the Middle East.
Too bad they choose to leave, so they both went back to the middle ages.
Civilizers are always based.
>when they civilized Africa and the Middle East.
leaving them in chaos isn't civilizing
>leaving them in chaos isn't civilizing
Last I checked, they left them with a bunch of infrastructure, that some, luckily not all, of them literally blew up because it was made by the Europeans.
Sauce
the Muslim Andalusians were Arabs of the arabian peninsula and Syria and Berbers/Amazigh as well as a minority of other muslim ethnicities who came along with them like egyptians and Persians. You also had the Iberian and Visigothic converts, in fact the muslim visigoths were so powerful they challenged with the arab and berber dynasties for power. So no matter which why you cut it, the muslims of spain were brown or white. You had a minority of sub-saharan (sahel) africans in there of course but sahel africans are not the same as african-americans who are descended from west africans and congolese. The term "moor" refered to the Mauritanians, modern day morocco mauritania and parts of the surrounding countries. And yeah some medieval morons who clearly didnt pay attention in the abbots lecture would sometimes use it to refer to everyone south of europe but thats like how some of the medieval muslims callied every western european a "frank" even if they were scandinavian or italian
>And yeah some medieval morons who clearly didnt pay attention in the abbots lecture would sometimes use it to refer to everyone south of europe but thats like how some of the medieval muslims callied every western european a "frank" even if they were scandinavian or italian
So, do we have evidencie this is ancient shitposting or is just you assuming medieval scribes were moronic?
what I mean is moor meant mauritanian just as saracen meant syrian and nubian meant sudanese and ethiope meant ethiopian and if a medieval writer used the term incorrectly it shouldnt be taken as fact. Then again medieval scribes drew knights riding on snails and rabbit homies robbing people so...
Fricking stylised paintings.
Muslim fricks were colonizers and the Iberians kicked their Islamic asses back to their pedo, mud holes.
Romans civilized those places, not moors
and visigoths undid everything the romans did, so it fell to the moors to restore civilisation
Then how did powerful culturally more romanic than anything christian kingdoms that kicked them out came to be if moors were the local staple civilization?
andalusians were stereotyped as lazy, drunk and lusful by the rest of the muslim world and it seems like they were right. It also seems like nothing has changed
I can answer you that question, the muslims of al andalus were fractured into several small kingdoms that were at war with each other (so were the christian kingdoms to a certain degree, not war, but conflict ), the muslims were "helped" by almoravids and almohades which were berber muslims, this berber muslims were like the actual equivalent of today yihadists and they loathed anything arab, meanwhile other european Christian kingdoms helped the spanish kingdoms that were like a backwater civilization in comparation with them.
So that's what happened, the muslims of spain got helped by the wrong people and the christians spaniards got helped by the right people, that summed with the weakened state of most muslims kingdoms in spain after centuries of internal strife finished their presence in the Iberian peninsula.
Also here comes some good trivia, when christian nobles and kings wanted a doctor, they always hired either a israelite or a muslim, independiently of the public rejection of both religious groups.
Okay, but is she prettier or uglier than the actual spanish princesses.
Uglier
Prettier
She already hit the wall? Damn.
Were black Africans even common in Moorish Spain?
As slaves? Yeah
Let me guess, the villain is going to be white and Catholic.
Do modern disney movies even have villains anymore?
The trailer for this hints that it has a traditional villain. Generational trauma might be taking a break for this one.
Don't you dare think they won't try to be both
And male. Lee won't allow women to fight each other.
>Imagine a place where wishes come true. Where your heart's desire can become a reality. What if I told you that place is within reach? All you have to do is give your wish... to me.
Apparently when someone gives him their wish, he doesn't grant them, and instead erases their memory making them forget what they even wanted to begin with
...So basically what Ursula did in the live action TLM?
Never saw it, what was up with that in her case?
Like in the animated version, Ursula gives her legs to be with Eric with the same stipulation of the 3 day kiss thing. Except LA Ursula erases Ariel's memory of the wish and want so she's just living her life in the real world not at all in love with Eric. It's moronic
are they gonna do the genie trope with this?
Probably if he wants to be extra dickish about it?
I mean, his whole deal is that he has good PR right?
>Apparently when someone gives him their wish, he doesn't grant them, and instead erases their memory making them forget what they even wanted to begin with
That doesn't sound so evil, it's a good solution to cure greed.
I didn't know white people were still allowed to voice brown characters without riots starting
Here's to hoping an explosion of r34 for this daddy.
He's not really doing it for me but I'll wait to see how he looks in action. Right now Bruno no diffs
Stop putting words in Lisa's mouth, pedo.
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO
Ancient Greeks and Egyptians had dreadlocks before the blacks.
Looks completely soulless
Made to be reconquested.
Disgusting historical bullshit
They are Semetic.
You can be Semetic and Christian, anon. Where do you think Christianity originated from? Europe?
what was the movie about? I saw the first trailer but I couldn't understand what the story was about or what the problem was, just vague feelings.
>In the Kingdom of Rosas, located off of the Iberian Peninsula, a 17-year-old girl named Asha senses a darkness that no one else does about the kingdom's ruler, King Magnifico. This eventually leads to her trying to make a passionate plea to the stars in a moment of need. Soon, an actual star from the sky named Star answers Asha's wish. After the star falls from the sky, it is revealed that the star has magical powers to grant wishes as well. Together, Asha and Star must overcome the evils rising in Rosas and fight for a better future in order to have something better than what they already have and for all dreams to come true for the people of Rosas
this has nothing to do with muslim spain? Magnifico? Really?
Is a fantasy kingdom inspired by Spain, like Kuzko's kingdom was inspired by the Incan Empire.
I guess yeah but Kuzco and Yzma at least sound incan, moorish spain chiefly spoke arabic, youd expect them to have arab-ish names like aladdin
You can't have a fantasy Kingdom without fantasy names.
Aladdin had fantasy names and they sounded arab/islamic. Agrabah isnt a real word in any language afaik yet it sounds like a place name in syria or iraq. Magnifico sounds more spanish then andalusian
Haber muchacho, ¿Cómo piensas que suena el Andaluz?
Arabic? They were majority muslims and ruled by arab dynasites, or arabised berber and visigoth dynasties, so they wouldve used arabic or iberian languages mixed with arabic like modern day Maltan. Spanish only became widely spoken during/after the reconquista
>had to use google translate for this
>No es bilingüe
>piensa que otros son fracasados como él que necesitan traducir con Google
Que vergüenza.
>Aladdin had fantasy names and they sounded arab/islamic
my homie, mechanikles and mozenrath are the only ones in this list that dont sound arab/islamic. Amin is a common first name ffs, and "Ghoul" is literally from arab mythology
NTA, but I think he showed that as examples that they AREN'T fantasy names and are actually Arab
oh that makes sense
>Moor colonizer trying to put down a native Iberian ruler
Isabel will one day avenge Magnifico
>Kingdom of Rosas
> King Magnifico
>Asha and Star
lame
The Moors got kicked out of Spain for a reason
Yes. That reason was their complacency when dealing with the barbarians from the north and the hills. The Castilians shouldve been put to death, every last man, woman and child. Yet the Andalusians with their soft hearts and their laziness did nothing to put down the barbarians insolence and they paid dearly for it.
I know frick-all about Spanish history (apart that the reconquista happened and the inquisition kinda happened)
How was it before Moors?
During Moors?
After Moors?
Which time period do Spaniards see as their best time?
im not spanish so maybe you should ask the spaniards in here for their opinions, before Moors it was a roman province populated by the celtoberians and then conquered by visigothic kings. The Umayyads got involved in visigoth politics and then invaded. When the Umayyads fell Andalus never joined the new Abbasid caliphate and just sat there independent from the rest of the islamic world
>Which time period do Spaniards see as their best time?
We have an official favorite with a neat name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Golden_Age
It also started the same year Spain joined the 109
Black person
Did the Moores have princesses or did they have Ladies/Sultanas?
princess is just "Amirah", "Sultanah" is queen, ladies had a bunch of terms, abbasid caliphate had "sitt" and "khatun" but I dont know if those terms were ever used by Moorish Spain since they were disconnected from the rest of the islamic world.
I think the earliest instances of dreads were from India. Dunno why dreadlocks are associated with african americans.
Because they steal shit.
Look, I'm just asking for the bare minimum
Just give me fun songs, a fun villain, a moral that isn't broken or deconstructed by the film's own plot, and comic relief that doesn't want me to fire a bullet between my eyes
Poor anon, who's gonna tell him? I really don't want to be the one to break his heart
>fun songs
I hope the rest of the songs are better than the one that was released. Not a fan of the sound of that one.
feels like itll go the direction of Brave, which is a bit similar to what youve described
>Morris Spain
You mean Colonized Spain?
Are we getting raided? Why would anyone know or care what a moor is? People been hating black characters for so long, and now you suddenly have a PhD in blackology?
A lot of us here are euros.
>American education
behold the americoon reveling in his ignorance.
You'd need to be actually moronic to think blacks in medieval European setting is acceptable
t. from bumfrick southeast America with the worst education numbers around and still somehow not as stupid as you
You know Ethiopia was a christian kingdom, right?
Asha's nose and face is too wide to be an Ethiopian
Good, I'm happy to see more blacks in media. It heightens the contradictions, and gets people to argue about race. When all the princesses were white, all nonwhites would be able to do is grumble. When we get nonwhites in the limelight, we get more people yelling at each other. It's all about making things change, stagnation is death and if we get world peace or race war or segregation or sterilization, it's all change. I want to see things burn. If I have to live in a lib "utopia" that's dissapointing but at least it would be different. Everything fricking blows right now, and literally anything would be better. Frick it. Burn it all to the ground. Make batman a black trans woman. Make him say the N word.
Brown Era
Okay for real, what the Hell happened with Strange World?
What a lovely way to spit on every spanish face...
Frick those dirty moors and frick Disney. ¡Arriba España!
She looks like Isabela Madrigal.
Disney probably reusing the same model/rigging with just a few changes to make it new.
if she's supposed to be spanish why is she black.
For a movie called Wish, the actual Wish is one of the worst wishes I've ever heard.
Will this movie save Disney's reputation?
No, it'll face a ridiculous scandal that will taint the legacy forever
I bet just before the worldwide release the lead actress will brag about how her character is queer like her. Then the right-wing media won't shut up about it. Then the movie bombs but the left tries to gaslight everyone into thinking that it's successful. Really it's just going to be a bad movie. The goat is no longer cute once it gets a deep, whiny, masculine voice. The star isn't as cute as the doom Luma. And the wish sucks.
hopefully not, but I doubt it has any chance to, their reputation is already lower than it ever has been
Who wants to put their bets that this is gonna be yet another box office bomb from the rat company?
Maybe it's too early to tell but I'm seeing zero hype for this. Plus Disney movies with brown leads don't have a good track record at the box office.
WE
>google wish
>all the results are online shopping
>google Disney wish
>all the results are cruise ships.
somebody got paid to name this movie.
What a fricking awful name too. Why not call it The Wishing Star or Wish Upon a Star? One word titles are so two decades ago.