Season finale out in ten minutes where Mark beats a black man to death or at least that's how it went down in the comic
Invincible
Season finale out in ten minutes where Mark beats a black man to death or at least that's how it went down in the comic
Stream bros?
Fukin Amazon hasn’t uploaded yet
It's up now.
I don't give a frick where's Spider-Man
Here you go.
Oh frick off.
Haven't seen it yet, how big is his cameo?
Lasts like 2 minutes.
Imagine if Spider-Man gets this as a suit in an official Marvel property.
Imagine if Agent Spider is in the next Spiderverse movie.
Imagine if Disney buys image comics.
Pretty much the final in the long list of betrayals of what Image Comics was born to be in the nineties.
Probably might have Spiderverse nod
I can see it being added to the Spidey 2 DLC
Batman was there, too. But it was just his cape. So presumably it's actual Batman instead of a legally distinct Spider-Man cameo.
Post it.
The Night Monkey? I love this guy.
Since it said his name is agent spider, I’m choosing to believe he’s a Kim Possible esque teen super spy
>you can show Batman if it’s his cape and you don’t show his face but no Spidey
>despite Amazon currently working with Sony in making several Spider-Man series
Can’t you even put in The Boys? You own that now Amazon.
If it's not tied to or affiliated with someone like Disney, then yeah, that should be fine.
Yeah, I was expecting him to bump into Homelander.
So they’ll put in Homelander just for him to be another villain of the week? Mark can easily delete him
Kirkman has said that S1 Mark would be even with Homelander but he surpasses him once he gets into his black and blue suit phase.
The cameo basically was a recreation of the start of this comic
It’s a shame we didn’t get the full thing but it also makes sense
Surprised they actually did the Spider-Man crossover in the show even if they didnt use the real spidey and doc oc for that scene
To be fair, they implied that this knock off Spider-Man is an actual Spider-Man since he mentions being familiar with interdimensional travel, and he says it in a way that hints at the Spider-Verse movies.
In Marvel Team Up, Invincible meets Spider-Man during the middle of this fight when Angstrom was throwing Mark through different universes. This was a neat way to handle it.
>Black-Man
It was a different time
I don't give a shit if the name or costume are just bootleg versions, hearing Josh Keaton and Steve Yeun interact was pretty neat.
>Spider-shot
Why did they make him look so cool?
Why not?
Bitches love Spider-Man
It's him, The Astonishing Arachnid-man!
Arachnid-Lad has a better ring to it imo
Invincible and the invisible leg
>"Who are you?"
>"You know who i am"
>"I do?"
>"Yep, I'm your Amiable Areal Arachni-sapien"
ENTER!
>diet Anissa in terms of shitposting discourse
The power of actually using your human adrenaline to eat your inferior evil incarnations is truly amazing. That and seeing your mother die right in front of you as a child.
Motherfricking Sinister Max enters the scene!
Capitan TND!
Look at these homies.
>Capes Inc. characters made it in
TECHJACKETBROS!!!!!
THERE'S HOPE!!!!
>techjacket
That’s the guy who broke up with his hot alien gf just cause their parts weren’t compatible right?
Fricking coward.
It’s not even confirmed whether they’re incompatible or not. He got one look at her geoduck lookin ovipositor or whatever the frick she’s rocking down there and called it quits. He shames the endeavorous and lustful nature of humanity with his cowardice.
more like go jack it
Does it really matter if he makes it into the show or not? He didn't really do anything in the invincible comics, he was just another guy they recruited for a guriella war
They should replace him with Robot to make his later betrayal even more impactful
I see the older Kid Thor but who is the boxing lady?
She's Knockout, right? I feel like that was the pun (pretty lady who has boxing gloves to "knock you out" natch)
His wife
The future Rex thing was very sneaky and I like it alot
I have a cousin who is also named Rex and seems to be really popular amongst the entertainment companies. Fricking hate that c**t. Half White, Half Filipino, all honorary Black gangster shit. Child molesting homosexual.
homie, what
Holy schizo
I hope your entertainment companies in California get nuked first when Israel and Iran start pissing out the nuclear warheads.
????
Woah.. the whole gang is here! Atom Eve, uh, Robot... the list goes on.
So they first came across a mark that spent god knows how many years there and then noped the frick out and build a time a machine to save him before whatever the frick happens to him right?
What did they see?
Did he just become a crazy psycho?
Mark was the conductor of the poop train
Probably feasting off angstrm and any other immortal he may find. Psycho who talks to himself or some sort of item. Maybe even a bit loony toons from one too many space flights.
They never explored it in the comic? Wasted
They kind of do as all the remaining evil marks get dumped on that world. They then begin to eat each other and only one remains when the world is revisited.
I mean couldn't they just go to another planet?
Or is there no life whatsoever in that dimension period?
Might be no life. But remember space is frick huge so all but mohawk Mark wouldn't have any clue on which way to fly and thats if anything exist to begin with. Our Mark hasn't flown in space for long periods at this point.
I mean he flew to mars right or us everyone on mars also dead?
Is that black samson on the left wearing the suit mark rejected in ep 1?
Still waiting for an answer
it's the suit Mark rejected, but it's not Black Samson. it's Bulletproof
Eve, you can manipulate matter at a subatomic level, why the hell are you ageing?
Atom Eve side ep explains that her powers don't work on living tissue (because science magic reasons). I was wondering why she never just exploded people.
I never saw that special, god that is such a useless cop out departure from the comics. How the hell is that supposed to work when part of the reason Eve and Mark are so good for each other is the fact that they're both functionally immortal?
I don't remember much but I think there's a point where she saiyan's out and the living-material block gets temporarily removed.
>I never saw that special, god that is such a useless cop out departure from the comics.
Not only is that exactly how her powers work in the comics, it's a traditional handicap in matter-manipulators, from Marvel's Molecule Man to DC's Element Lad.
When she's on the brink of death, her "limiter" vanishes and she's briefly able to to basically....anything except resurrect the dead.
including de-aging herself as she's about to die of old age.
>useless cop out departure from the comics
Uh, if you'd read the comics, you'd know that
Eve still ages the same as any other human, but when she "dies" of old age her limiters break just the same as when she dies of injury, and restores her body to her original late-teens state
You know what, I completely forgot about that, it just felt like a cop out in the moment.
nta. It is a cop out. It was supposed to be that the stress of dying allowed her to do it, it shouldn't apply when she's dying peacefully in bed. They just wanted a happy ending which is why the skimmed over Debra dying
She has a mental block about manipulating living tissue. She eventually gets over it and is basically Dr. Manhattan.
She auto-heals herself back to her prime whenever she dies (and anyone else also hurt near her at the time), including de-aging after dying from old age
NO ONE TELL HIM
She only finds that out when she initially dies of old age and then just respawns
>Can fix shit in an atomic level
>Makes mark keep the black eye
Eve can only affect living matter when it's convenient for the plot.
Reminder that Kirkman actually said ine of those Skybound promo vids that Eve's power can be done justice if she was in the hands of a better writer.
Yeah let’s show everyone….who canonically survives to the end of the series and no one else even though this is an alternate universe
At least three characters in that shot don't make it to the end.
Bulletproof was still alive by the end wasn't he? Just....not very pretty looking.
It's not an alternate universe. It's Mark's universe in an alternate timeline.
so this was different from the comic right? its been a while since ive grazed over it.
They’re all fat
this invincible scene was one of the biggest asspulls i've ever seen, right after the episode was getting very good too.
It reminded me of the Disappearance of Haruhi Suziyama, where the resolution was "hey, we fixed it with time travel". In Haruhi, I suppose that was going to be fixed with future plot but there was never an S3, and read a translated LN? Frick that shit.
Yeah I felt that way reading the comic too. It’s no better here lmao. I was hoping they’d change it. Checked btw.
To be 100% honest I wish they would take more liberties in the adaptation to make certain parts make more sense than they’re already doing.
I miss my wife
I miss her a lot
I'll be back
Episode was amazing. Makes up for how emptier this season has felt compared to 1.
Is he talking about his bugwife?
Yes he is talking about Debbie
Underrated post
>Nolan married two bug people
I guess he has a fetish
ಥ ͜ʖಥ
D'you think so? S2 has had like seven plot threads ongoing, unless you mean like more of an overarching plot. This is the setup for the real shit coming next time if anything.
heh, not bad kid
where da mega
Mega?
and now to wait for 6 months to over a year for season 3....
This didn't feel like a finale. Pretty underwhelming.
that's because season 3 is is just season 2 part 2
That was always going to be a problem, the storylines season two covers was always going to be underwhelming and less focused compared to season one.
I think season three will be an improvement with more compelling storylines and a pretty hype finale but it will still suffer the problem of not having a central plot like season one did with Omni-Man.
>yet another fight hardcarried by the voice acting
tragic, hope this is the last we see of most of the celebrities they got for this season, cause right now my expectations for the stuff they're planning to adapt in season 3 are at an all time low.
putting that aside, it's kinda stupid to use the title card as a build-up for the blue suit just to never actually show mark wearing it
Nice digits btw
Gotta save that for Episode 1 of next season when the title card gets fixed up.
Who were the two women in the tomb?
I think it's just going to be a seasonal gag of the Ka-Hor subplot that isn't meant to go anywhere.
I dunno but I’m hoping that the one without powers becomes our stand in for Spawn via mummy possession
Just imagine it. A female Egyptian themed Spawn with a Yugi/Yami dynamic
Relax Mark, Angstrom deserved to die for that shit he did to your family. If anything, that fricker got off easy with such a quick death. Should have been a little bit slower and more painful. He deserved to suffer for that.
>If anything, that fricker got off easy with such a quick death
>quick death
He literally got punched to death
YAKUB NO!!!!
Mark seen here with fellow Viltrumites
*Mark seen here with his fellow Mark's
wait, theres only 8 eps in the season?
Same as last season.
Maybe there will be another one shot episode like the one for Atom Eve.
Probably a Rex one
Good ep. Not "finale-like", but it was serviceable. Mark and his mom's relationship has been done really well.
Feel like Mark's character will receive complaints towards how he acted after justified killing, since people don't like their shonen/action protags like that for the most part, and his character has already been criticized for being weak, but he's been through a lot already, plus being informed of all bad-end alternate timelines. He doesn't deserve it.
I've only read some of the comic, but the random plot threads sprinkled throughout doesn't make for a good series viewing.
They're being loyal to the source material, while cleaning and merging things as best as they can, but it still feels a bit sloppy for series construction.
>Good ep. Not "finale-like"
Would have been a great mid-season break episode
They really fricked up with the huge break for only 8 episodes, they should have just delayed the entire season
Now we get to look forward to a 3 year wait for another 2 episodes before a 2-month quarter-season break
>Now we get to look forward to a 3 year wait for another 2 episodes before a 2-month quarter-season break
I thought they already recorded all the lines for season 3?
How fricking long does animation take for the show? Don't they have amazon money
It will be hilarious if they try to make excuses for it taking awhile or be expensive, when they literally had a fricking long joke about the shortcuts animation takes to cut corners.
>Don't they have amazon money
All spent on voice actors and advertising, and not the show itself.
I wish companies would stop hiring famous people for VA and stick to career VAs. It's alright for cameos and things but man, so many things I see these days seem to waste budget on big name actors (specifically ones not known for VA).
DEI animators slow down the process. You have to have at least 7 Muslims animate on a team, and they can’t do it during ramadan
Throughput actually increases during Ramadan, because they fast.
I love you more than Mark loved his back talking human Nigerian girlfriend
44 minutes per episode is a loong time for animation. Most animated series are 11 or 22 minutes long. This new length makes thing extra harder.
amazon is a israelite, the animation looks like shit, not gw levels of shit but shit still
This has nothing with Amazon's israeliness, as several posts pointed out already Invincible's budget is hogged by all of those Star Power voice actors and the marketing budget, and said marketing itself does expend quite some time pushing the fact the audiences should love the show for all these A-Listers voicing the characters.
The animation itself comes second to these celebrities.
Next season is either coming out late this year or early 2025. They're already animating season three and they definitely said to not expect another three year wait.
Yes it’s getting to a point where they’re loyal to the series to a fault. And then the things they change don’t make any sense, why is shrinking lady still alive? That lizard gang attack lost all impact now, all those heroes lived.
I'm used to heroes in western animation having a good cry after dealing with heavy shit, it's fine.
Steven and Mark would be good friends
Pretty sure heroes in all media tend to cry after going through heavy or traumatic shit
Yeah but it all depends on what that event is, it can be powerful or it can be annoying depending on what they're crying about.
I know for a fact Luffy wouldn't give two flying fricks if he did the same to Levy if he hurt his friends. He'd just walk away like it's no big deal.
True, true.
Speak for yourself
MY HERO never cried.
>Steven and Mark would be good friends
I like imagining that.
>Mark's character will receive complaints towards how he acted after justified killing, since people don't like their shonen/action protags like that for the most part
I noticed this recently when reading shounen manga comments, plenty of Zoomers out for blood, arresting the villain isn't enough, they want murder.
They don't care if the villain is truly a bad guy or how petty their crimes are, they want the MC to murder the villain even if they did nothing worth of being killed.
The worst part is that a lot of people in the real world act the same way.
It's scary how violent people are nowadays, stay safe out there brothers.
Mark shouldn't killed that guy, beat the shit out of him and break his arm, eye for an eye shit but not murder and you all are too immature and radical for that conversation.
They're just Kagurabaching
This series is definitely not for you if you think Mark shouldn't have "killed" Angstrom. How will you react towards what comes next? Mark goes through several moral dilemmas from there onwards.
It's fine for Invincible since it's not aimed at kids. It can stand to be more kill or be killed than your average cartoon
>It's scary how violent people are nowadays,
>nowadays
>Mark shouldn't have killed that guy
I won't criticize you for thinking that there could've been more ways to approach that situation before it escalated to the point it did, but I will say Angstrom had it coming as soon as he started to hurt his mother and thinking otherwise makes you look incredibly spineless
This. I'm generally a "don't kill them unless you absolutely have to" but Angstrom crossed the line when he broke Debbie's arm
Angstrom was totally justified. Cecil is definitely against mark snapping and even he's like "don't worry about it" Fricker was threatening to kill a infant
Fricker was planning on killing an infant Viltrumite.
There is no fricking way letting this Angstrom live is a morally good thing to do.
>infant Viltrumite.
How is that a bad thing? I mean... come to think about it. Viltrumites are the bad guys, like completely bad.
It's bad because Oliver is innocent, he's more innocent than Mark who has killed, can snap into an uncontrollable rage and is a horrible person in many more worlds than he isn't.
Oliver also doesn't currently have any powers, is being raised as a human, his birth mom is dead and his dad is awaiting his execution for fighting back against the Viltrum Empire.
>Oliver is innocent
It's the same as saying that the wolf cub is innocent. I mean there's no way to stop him if something goes wrong. You don't see the whole picture. Viltrumites are alien invaders with dangerous instincts. At least Superman can be stopped by regular people using tools.
Viltrumites are not inherently evil.
Wolves are not inherently evil.
Humans are not inherently evil.
Don't advocate for killing toddlers, you weirdo.
People who have done nothing wrong and do not plan to do anything wrong should not be killed under any circumstances.
> Zoomers out for blood
My favorite are the zoomer AoT fans who straight up say Eren should have won and finished the job.
Forgiveness and talk-no-jutsu just aren’t popular among them anymore.
no, it just would have been a satisfying ending to the story. The actual ending sucks because it tried to make eren the hero and the villain simultainously and was full of plot armor for the alliance. Not to forget there were tons of dropped plot developments cause the editor changeed the ending
>editor changed the ending
You know as well as I do that this is a cope. Isayama just pussied out.
The guy was going to take a baby by the leg and smash him against a fricking wall. Mark 100% had the right to kill him when it was clear this fricker wouldn't stop and couldn't be held.
How Mark felt afterwards makes perfect sense but in no way was he in the wrong.
Mark indirectly killed a train full of innocent people. And he almost killed everyone.
Yes and Mark was traumatized from it and hence the extreme reluctance to kill. He can be reluctant to kill, traumatized, and in the right all at once.
>Yes and Mark was traumatized
The point is people are not going back and Donald will not fix his ptsd. I mean this is not cool.
>Mark is a murderous butthole in most universers appearantly.
>Angstrom decides to frick witj the ONE Mark that is an actually cool guy.
Yeah that dife totally deserved getting his shit rocked.
He can't keep his sense of self accurate, so he's self-inserting as the ones from the evil Mark dimensions.
The only Angstrom with dimension-powers is the one from Good Mark's dimension, which is why he's "defaulting" to this dimension
Unfortunately 99% of his memories are from dimensions with Evil Mark
Yeah but he can dimension hop to anywhere he likes. He could easily go to the universes where Evil Mark directly fricked with the lives of the angstrom's in his head and get actual revenge against the Mark's that wrong "him". Deep down he knows this Mark is good and wouldn't, snicker, kill him and would hold back. He is just a coward laying the blame for others at the feet of the only punching bag he could ever hope to have a chance against because evil Mark would just rip his spine out through his ass in every other dimension. Levy is a b***h.
Thats pretty much what invinciwar is. He's just starting with the one that fricked him the most because skitzo and past records have shown 100% of the marks are evil buttholes.
No one pointed this out yet but Angstrom's son from the flash forward ending montage of the comic makes an early appearance in this episode
I think it's neat that they took that throwaway line from the comic about Invincible being evil in most dimensions and actually expanding on that to be the reason why Angstrom's so hellbent on killing Mark
Ok episode, but terrible season finale. Doubt it gets another season
It already got renewed for a 3rd season
anyone else notice Immortals PS1 graphics cabin interior? why is production on this shit so rough?
All the money is funneled to music and VAs.
>we still have twenty minutes left what do we do
>make Mark sad
>then make Mark sad with Debbie
>then make Mark sad with Cecil
>then have a funny sexist mummy
>then make Mark sad alone
>then make Mark sad with Debbie again
>then make Mark sad with Eve
Why did no one think to tell Mark that the dimension hopping insane man that is focused entirely on killing Mark and his family isn't going to stop unless he was dead and there was literally no other option? Instead they just kept saying it's fine.
Cecil literally said that.
Thats EXACTLY what everyone told him you fat moron
Fortnite is canon
In multiverse everything is canon. That is why it is the most annoying and boring concept to ever infect the comicbook and super hero industry. It makes absolutely everything irrelevant and consequence free.
The overused multiverse plot device is fine sometimes, they way they handle it here and kill off the multiverse portal user was decent writing.
Multiverse stuff AND time travel gimmick stuff on top of it back to back? Yeah that's when it can become horrid concept writing.
I get what you are trying to say but in fortnite lore the fortnite island is a unique point in the multiverse, the whole story of that game revolves around protecting something called the zero point that is believed to be the center of the multiverse, they got tie in comics with both Marvel and DC explaining all that shit
In this case the multiverse was used right it only gets fricking annoying with shit like spider-verse showing a thousand fricking different spiders with slightly different costumes that add nothing to the story because we will never actually see their universe or learn shit about them
It's probably extremely autistic on my end by the thing that bothers me most about multiverse stories is actually how big the differences are between each verse.
Realistically, if multiverses exist there would be an infinite number where everything is exactly like it is now on the macro scale except a particle somewhere zigged instead of zagged. Or even if you want to take a step back where only conscious decisions create branches, then there'd still be an infinite amount everytime someone grabbed a different biscuit from the pack with no other changes.
t. schizo who sees fractal futures evertime he has an episode
We can know for certain that in reality, if there are multiverses, then there is no way to travel between them. Indeed, even in any media that claims there are "infinite" multiverses and it's possible to travel between them, they're wrong.
How can we know this? Because of the very nature of infinity. If there are infinite universes, and you can travel between them, then there are an infinite amount of people attempting to travel to our universe at every moment in time. It would instantly fricking swamp with multiversal travelers and die.
but then again, some infinities are bigger than other infinities, so maybe not
Well, then you bring up the whole time travel issue. If it's possible, why don't we see any? Both could be handwaved the same way, with "it's only possible once the first connection is made"
Or you simply fall into the infinite that is never visited or visited by the few who appear in cement.
Alternatively, what if the universe we inhabit is simply the end result of just such a scenario?
Your error is projecting human perspective into a infinite concept.
If there are infinite parallel realities, then most of these realities are completely alien to human perspective and more numerous than the realities humans live, can live or can understand. Stop imagining them as strings and start imagining them as variables.
the way i see it those other infinite universes that are functionally identical are just having parallel storylines with functionally identical fortnite/spider-man universes. it's like looking through the library of babel, most of them are gibberish but the ones that make sense to you are generally sort of different
it's funny that rick and morty is the only multiverse media to actually acknowledge this
All I know about Fortnite lore is that there was a canon comic about Wolverine fricking the Fortnite girl and apparently they had better chemistry together than Logan ever did with Jean Grey.
Multiverse establishes more consequences, not less
THAT'S what that was a reference to
Whoever pulled the trigger on that midseason break needs to be fired. The hype is complete dead
This show won't be finished until 2040 and that's if we are lucky
If Angstrom is so schizo against Mark, why is he going after the Mark that never killed anyone close to him? He clearly can't even differentiate any of the Marks, so it seems weird that good Mark is the first one on the list, just makes him seems like a pussy to go after a Mark that will hold back against him (until he didn't).
1) because he's Schizo, so ALL MARKS ARE EVIL AND MUST DIE
2) because his body is the body from the "main" dimension, so he has an affinity for this dimension
3) Comic spoiler: Later on, Eve talks him down and makes him realize this Mark is indeed a good guy. He's also had a few more years of experience with his new schizoid mind so he's able to differentiate things a lot more clearly and realizes just how badly he fricked up, and is truly apologetic and mortified at how much damage he's caused
>schizoid mind
I think you've used the wrong term there
How in the frick did he survive? There was like 17 gallons of blood
It works on JoJo rules, every human body contains 100 gallons of blood, and 99 of them are not vital.
He was on the verge of death, didn't even have a pulse, but his interdimensional doctor team picked him up and revived him as soon as Invincible wasn't in the area
nanomachines
>"Why is the crazy guy being crazy?"
Answered your own question.
Kate 0
I just want them to be happy and nothing bad to ever happen again.
How many years pass in the comics?
Are they much better than the show?
I haven't read a comic in ages
Literally 500 years from the first issue to the last issue. Most of those 500 years aren't covered tho.
When do we get to see the genderswapped villain DupliKate from season 1?
Isn't that her brother Multi Paul?
I fricking hate you
i don't know how to tell you this anon but that's his actual name
>They did the Rae fakeout AND kept the Kate fakeout
Whoa, the whole Lizard League plot was literally a waste of time
What was the point of keeping Rae alive anyway? She's a red shirt nobody without a backstory
Maybe to give Rex a small win by having them get together.
1) Waifugays
2) Building the audience's attachment to her, to kill her off later for greater shock value
gotta keep the cast full so the evil Invincibles can actually kill people later
Waifu bait and likely to be killed by the evil Marks, most likely this degenerate
because Kirkman probably thinks he's being clever.
Do the comics have much multiverse stuff?
The first half of this ep all I could think of was how sick and tired I am of multiverse and time travel bullshit.
there's more later and also some time travel but at the pace they're going neither will last that long
For what it's worth, they handle it pretty well
The multiverse stuff is basically just 16 Evil Marks coming in and fricking shit up, which actually improves the world's morale if anything because when versions of Mark are getting killed by relatively no-name supers, it gives them hope against the Viltrumites
Otherwise there's also a mini-arc where interdimensional time traveling plants send Mark back in time in an attempt to save their own timeline, but Mark abandons them to return to his own timeline
tldr non-spoiler version is that anything multiverse/time-travel is there to strengthen the main story, not distract from it
>16 Evil Marks coming in and fricking shit up
The frick is there motive for this?
Angstrom isn't dead, he brings them in
they're just dicks, Angstrom got them together and promised them stuff if they fricked up prime Mark's world for him
Angstrom enlists the help of evil Invincibles just to frick with Mark and ruin his reputation, they cost so much damage that they destroy all the capital cities of the world and it takes all the superheroes in the world (including Spawn) to deal with them.
Likely to take the place of characters that the show couldn't get the rights to, like Tech Jacket and shit
Wait did Rae and Kate perma die in the comics at that point with the lizard league?
Ray did die in the comics.
Kate's copies all died but the original Kate shows up at the Immortal's cabin just like in the last episode and she and the Immortal eventually get married and have kids together.
Rae did , Kate didn’t, though I think the Kate reveal was a bit later in the comics
So how shitty does the "I thought you'd be stronger" scene look?
it actually comes off as dramatic instead of accidentally funny this time
if that's good or bad it depends on you
>dramatic instead of accidentally funny this time
What's this referencing?
In the comic, the scene comes off as funny instead of dramatic as intended.
The punches that Mark lands on Angstrom when they actually show them connecting with his face lack impact.
Somehow s1 final fight looked better.
The atmosphere in Marks house with Angstrom was great, but they didn't animate well Mark getting tricked into going through portals. Mark looked like a dumbass.
And "I thought you were stronger" took too damn long and kinda missed the timing of the comic
any online links yet?
>he hasn't heard of eztv
I'm pissed we didn't get the Allen/Nolan Great Escape for a lengthy post-credit sequence
So S3 is going to cover
>Mark vs Cecil
>Oliver becoming Invincible's sidekick
>(Possibly) Invincible's first kill
>Powerplex
>Mark going to the future dystopia and foreshadowing the ending
>Omni Man and Allen bromance
>Invincible War
>Conquest
>>(Possibly) Invincible's first kill
But he already killed Angstrom in season 2
>he doesn't know
I see.
But if that specific Angstrom still somehow survived why did the Invincible writers make a stupid time travel plot instead of just keeping everything in an original timeline.
How'd he get back to his original reality? Or was he on earth in the comics?
what i mean is, mark was about to go back to angstrom before the time travel concept started, if he actually is alive somehow they could have written a better way to get back to his original reality with a young mark.
Gets rescued and patched up by interdimensional aliens
So the confession from Future Eve is anime only?
It's from the comics
No, it is also in the comics, it is pretty much the gateway so Mark got to know Eve loved him all along so he can move away from Amber’s breakup and hook up with Eve without much hurdle.
Angstrom went to Shrinking Rae's school of dying.
Interesting change but one I like, the evil Invincible we've seen so far actually like the main Mark, personality-wise. The alternate Invincibles in Invincible War were kind of all just crazy or psychotic
>*The Invincibles actually ACT like the main Mark
Holy frick my brain slow today
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL SOMEONE(who you have no way of imprisoning) WHO BRUTALIZED YOUR MOTHER THREATENED TO KILL YOUR BROTHER AND WHO WAS ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL YOU WHEN YOU KILLED HIM AND WHO IS SO DANGEROUS YOU MIGHT NEVER GET ANOTHER CHANCE BECAUSE UM YOU CAN'T
No one told him it wasn't okay.
Mark just desperately doesn't want to end up like Viltrumites or his father who he always idolized. Even though he's evil in the entire multiverse.
If you kill him you’ll be just as bad as he is
You can act like you're a detached spaz all you want, the act of killing someone is a big deal. And will continue to be a big deal in well-written stories.
Back to anime and manga with you
>onions meltdown
>well written
yes people can have intense emotions if they kill people but this was handled horribly this isn't some random person he on the other side of a conflict or a petty thug this guy is an absolute psychopath and it's not even the first time he's killed either
It makes perfect sense for Mark to spaz out over it given he's had it rubbed in his face he goes evil majority of the time, had humans killed by being smashed into him, and the Nolan shit.
Most of you fricks here get traumatized for less.
>And will continue to be a big deal in well-written stories
lol lmao. I forgot how everyone in the Blood Meridian pissed and cried themselves when they killed a spic
>killing someone is a big deal
i remember hearing a testimony from rwanda that basically said its only a big deal the first few times, by the tenth guy you alreday aim to make the kill quick and by the twentieth you dont care anymore
The whole thing about Mark is that he bases his superheroics on the comics that he reads. Truth, Justice, and the _______ Way. Try to save everyone.
Mark eventually learns to let this way of thinking go which is why pic related is one of the best moments in the entire series, even thouugh the arc surrounding it is one of the weaker ones. It's an actual spoiler so don't click it if you don't want to be spoiled.
Honestly this page is so satisfying, it's such a relief to finally get a definitive frick you to the moral gay question. Who fricking cares? Just try to do whats right
Mark got so no diffed here
It was still badass.
How morally good is this from any point of view?
It's generally not considered morally acceptable to kill kids but I think the line should be considered a little blurrier when the kid's a dick
Show-only people are gonna freak out at this bit
OK yeah I'm moronic, you're right
if viltrumite genes basically replace the other species genes why is mark half asian
There's already viltrumites that look asian
yeah but his dad isn't one so it's irrelevant
it's close enough to the original look that there isn't a lot of variation especially since there's Viltrumite ethnicities, if anything his hair might start getting darker as time goes on or something
I really want his eyes to turn blue like his dad’s in the end.
Nobody seems to stay death in this season, except for the lizard league I guess
Rex is dying next season for real though
I already knew that. At least we saw Rudy after getting his cool new nickname, shame it was without his cool beard
ENTER
Cant wait to see all the different alternate Invincibles next season
Marko El Diablo
Mark does not pull off that mustache
Deku would have found a way to save Angstrom.
Angstrom does get redeemed later on but he fricking dies by that point
Deku would have spent 10 minutes crying and shitting himself before the fight even began.
>Quads
Steven Yeun is fricking killing this. He sounds amazing.
RIP
I can't believe that's how the season ends. No big hook. No real plot of the season. Just things happened. Unfortunately I think a lot of normalgays are going to move away from the show after this and chase the next epic show.
Conquest will bring back the hype
It would have been better if the season ended on Mark and Cecil splitting off as not only is that a big and climactic status quo change but it literally leads into Mark donning black and blue suit that the new intro kept building up to.
So what's the problem? They're giving too much focus to the plot threads that don't matter?
The plot threads matter but they're lacking that connective tissue that season one had so it kind of feels aimless. As people have said, season two's finale is underwhelming compared to how iconic season one was. This is very much a bridge season and I don't think the show will reach its initial peak of popularity again until the season three finale.
Good thing season 3 is already in production and we can expect the first half in two years.
>in two years
That is in no way reassuring, if Season 3 doesn't air in mid 2025 at the latest then all of Hickman's talk about why it took 3 years between Season 1 to Season 2 being blamed on shit like COVID is all bullshit.
Reminds me of when Zach Hadel and Michael Cusack said they were hoping for Smiling Friends to air yearly because the trend of modern tv shows having two year gaps might be too much
Holy shit Mark mad. QRD?
Mark finds out that Cecil hired Darkwing's mentally unstable sidekick and Ezra Miller's character, he thinks what they did was unforgivable while Cecil is arguing from a pragmatic perspective. They end up fighting and cutting ties, Mark goes independent and creates his own superhero contract work business with Eve
>Darkwing's mentally unstable sidekick
Did he really do anything THAT fricked up? I mean, Mark beat a guy to death by this point. Also, he's willing to forgive his dad after murdering thousands.
The Darkwing kid was dumping every criminal into his pocket dimension where they were eventually eaten by the monsters there
Keep in mind that Cecil also reveals that he was making weapons to take Mark out in secret.
That is bad but I don’t think it warrants that intense of a reaction. Getting angry at him for hiring criminals shouldn’t make him as angry as Levy hurting his family.
Also, I guess he gets over his guilt pretty quick if he threatens to kill other people now.
Mark is projecting his fear of becoming a viltrumite onto himself and Cecil is encouraging that fear while also hiring people who commit human experiments and mass murder.
Cecil’s a complete hypocrite despite being pragmatic
Now tbf Cecil was antagonizing Mark in that scene. Comic Cecil is a lot more colder and less empathetic compared to his show show counterpart, like he actually disses Mark for killing Angstrom there.
Show Cecil is so much better, comic Cecil is a fricking moron. I can’t imagine how they change the conquest scene
Holy frick I couldn't disagree more, Cecil has no nuance at all in the show and is robbed of all the light hearted stuff that showed he wasn't just some prick on top.
Honestly the adaptation's characterization in general is not to my taste.
I just can't justify the conquest shit at all, it's like some kind of looney tunes shit, show Cecil at least gets involved in major events like Viltrumites as he should considering the scale of it. Like there's no way Anissa could talk to mark unmonitored, it makes Cecil look like a dipshit
That's your issue? Not the fact that he acts completely different to Mark, Debbie, and everyone else than he does in the comics?
If you are talking about Cecil trying to contain conquest he even admits he dropped the ball on that one and shouldn't have lied to Mark.
I don't like how the cut down the cast either but that's another discussion, to be blunt I don't care much for the show at all so I'll just remain silent and let others enjoy what they like.
I understand it doesn't have to be a 1:1 adaptation but they killed a lot of the appeal Invincible had for me, I don't reread every issue each year because of violence and swearing I can tell you that much.
Alright, then he deserves it and is stupid. But this page seems almost contradictory of what happened in the show so they may tweak it around a bit so it fits better.
I don't know maybe show cecil is a bit more agreeable than his comic counterpart, but I honestly can't blame him from what I have seen.
Between half the shit he has to deal with on a weekly basis like kaijus mad scientists, super villains from another dimension and what not and the looming threat of the viltrum empire I don't see how anyone could blame him for wanting all hands he can get on deck.
The comic ultimately does side with Cecil because his decision to work with D.A. Sinclair actually pays off and he later helps Invincible in a big way in the climax of the comic and Mark does later come to respect his viewpoint and approach then he proceeds to take it too far and ends up accidentally killing millions of people
Are they going to do a timeskip so that Mark's kids will be in the story at some point?
Does every scene have to be a sad montage or two people talking about being sad?
Being sad is trendy these days
>it's a "Josh Keaton voices a Spider-Man knockoff character" episode
where can i watch it?
Its not on my streaming website yet!
kim
Is he going to keep the fricked up eye?
Viltrumites have minor regeneration and have access to superior tech to add on top of that, so Mark isn’t gonna have permanent scars like Zuko.
It looks cool on him tho
Plus it makes narrative sense, mark is no longer pure his face bares a mark
The narrative tool used to indicate Mark "was no longer pure" was his outfit change, the black and blue one the show was too stupid not to make the finale out of.
It's just a black eye
viltrumites only get lasting scars if they're attacked by rognarrs so no
How can they improve Invincible War? I hope it's is a much bigger deal in the show, that shit was so much worse and larger scale than what even Omni-Man did and it should have permanently tarnished Invincible's reputation but the comic immediately brushes over it.
Who's the bald sweatpants mark third from the right?
a mark who was defeated by his dad and spent a year tortured in a viltrumite prison
That's Mark
>someone tries to draw the Sydney Opera House
>positioned incorrectly
Many such cases.
I think the opposite, they might reduce the number of evil Marks to give them more depth, literally only 2 of these evil Marks were given more of a background in the comics.
Something something the evil Marks dying to mediocre heroes made people not as fearful for some reason.
Feels like all we'd get is Mohawk being depressed edgy and Cannibal murking Rex and Rae
Mohawk was the one with the harem of redheads that made Mark realize a lot of the bad timelines ended up happening cause he fumbled his relationship with Eve, right? Or was that a different one?
That's the Mohawk one yes, he ended up being the most explored Evil Mark since he lives a while longer than the rest.
Fully masked characters are always cool
I was surprised how they went over this in a fricking chapter and then Conquest stole the show immediately after. I would have expected that something as crazy as 14 evil versions of the hero showing up would have been given a bit more of importance.
It’s absolutely getting more screen time. Problem was that was a big crossover event but it was rushed as frick
They could remove the marks that look too similar to main mark and just keep the more unique ones.
The Evil Mark that got the most background and appearances in the comics is the Mohawk one who is just Mark in his black and blue suit, without the mask. Hickman really discarded all the other more unique Marks.
Maybe they can change some of the evil Invincibles like the one whose literally just Mark in his black and blue outfit, with a female Invincible
Odd how we didn't get one considering we got female Cecil and Donald.
So uh why wouldn't Angstrom Levy just keep Invincible trapped in the Dino Dimension?
He said it himself, speedwatcher-kun. He wanted to kill him with his own two literal hands
Because he's a psychotic egomaniac fueled by the collective asspain of 999,999 other Angstrom Levy's
He literally answered this question outright. It's not the least bit ambiguous.
Since it was referenced in this episode, I hope they don't actually do Rudy taking on Rex's name. It's so fricking stupid.
why not? it's rudy thinking he's honoring his friend when in reality it's the complete opposite. i like it
But why would other characters call him that? Doesnt he make this decision at Rex's fricking funeral? If anything they should just always call him Robot after that instead of Rudy/Rex
Is that what happens in the comics? Why is he so autistic. How do the others react?
Does this confirm that Jason Mantzoukas will be voicing Robot past season three or four instead of Zachary Quinto?
Jason will voice him outside of the suit, Quinto will still do the suit-voice
although it'd probably be cheaper to only pay one of them
Nah it drives home how much of an butthole robot is.
I can't tell if that was Rex in the Robot suit or Rudy using the name Rex. The latter seems more likely, but it did sound like Rex's VA. Then again, he is using a copy of Rex's body.
Teen Rudy is already voiced by Rex's VA
No wait, they are different. What the frick? They sound almost identical.
>hey immortal im alive
>omg kate your alive
>yeah
>end scene
What a fricking odd reveal.
Yeah I can't believe people thought this episode was good. The pacing was FRICKED. It's just a whirlwind of no hype built reveals and characters saying how they feel for the last 20+ minutes of the episode. This shouldve been episode 7 so 8 could deal with the aftermath and properly set up the hook for s3
Everything about the show sucks because they insist on giving everyone their moment in the sun every episode instead of drawing Angstrom out for another 10 minutes followed by desert time, the rescue, then Mark and Eve almost getting together. Push Allen meeting Nolan to the very end and include Battlebeast as a teaser somehow then call it a day.
Yeah they should have held that for when her butthole brother shows up.
at least the material for the next 3 seasons is a lot more interesting than what season 2 covered.
how many evil marks can anissa beat
The younger, weaker ones; at least 2 or 3 of them are actually pretty old so they are on par with Anissa, one might even be stronger since he is ruling over the Viltrumites in his universe.
>one might even be stronger since he is ruling over the Viltrumites in his universe.
I got the impression that he took control of the Viltrumite Empire since they found out his heritage as they mention that Thragg is still around and leads a rebel faction in that universe.
how many at once though
...off.
Would Anissa want to frick an evil Mark? It seems like there wouldn't be much pushback unless all of the evil Marks also only care about banging Eve.
I hope Season 3 has more budget.
One of the evil Marks outright says in the Invincible War that he wants to take his sweet time killing this Eve, unlike the Eve he killed in his universe, so not all Marks have Eve as their OTP.
Anissa would be down to frick any Mark that impresses her, so they just gotta be strong. Anissa only went for Mark's seed here after he had grown a lot stronger by fighting against Conquest twice, and she on the other hand was consistently disappointed with all human men on Earth, she only got converted by love like all other top Viltrumites and settled with a normal human after much patience and effort.
Makes sense. I still need to read past where Season 2 ended in the comic. I only know about Conquest's two fights, Rex dying, some dinosaur homie showing up, the final fight with Thragg, and Robot becoming the final boss.
>I hope Season 3 has more budget.
It's not a budget issue, they just need to get better animators or directors. The actions scene in the Atom Eve special actually looked decent, swift and impactful unlike the moving jpegs in the main show because someone else was directing it. Like imagine if they got Vincent Chansard to guest animate for the Conquest fight, it would be godly.
Wish granted, more licensed music!
I'm glad you anime people can share some of the burning annoyance I have for Angstrom.
>Would Anissa want to frick an evil Mark?
If she knew he's royalty and strong af, yeah
>Conquest is a laid-back oldman who also happens to have a sadistic bloodlus
Don't forget how quickly he turns into a whimpering coward in front of Thragg and ultra Monster Girl.
It's the hair. They should've gone for the comic style.
Nice art
Scaroused
You think he will meet his comic counterpart?
We get closer and closer to Dinosaurus
That's season five territory
My frickin homiesaurus.
Who will voice him?
David Kaye
I remember reading the comic in a storytime thread here years ago and I got through a fair bit of it I think. Where would I read it now?
Readcomiconline
I watch, I don't read comics. I came to Cinemaphile because Cinemaphile didn't have a thread.
Deal w/ it nerd
moron couldn't even read my two sentence post correctly
No, we all saw your owl ass hooting.
gimme sauce, please
It was good but S1 still had a better storyline and finale.
I also don’t give a shit about the no kill rule so I’m not that bothered about Mark killing someone. From what I hear he kills other people later, so it’s really not a big deal, especially in this universe.
Yeah I agree with this. First season seemed like it had better pacing, but maybe that's just the hiatus fricking with my perception
The hiatus is definitely fricking with it but all this is really just build up until the real shit happens which will definitely happen S3
Season one had the Nolan mystery for the plot center around and build up on. Angstrom Levy isn't that compelling to carry season two so it feels more aimless as a result.
It definitely feels more aimless. Mark could have killed anybody and his reaction would have probably been the same. Levy as a character doesn't work as well as a villain like Nolan, he should have been walking around every episode, setting him up as the big bad guy. Then the final defeat would have been more shocking, but as is it's pretty much expected. I doubt most people watching the show will be that shocked that he died, especially given how the music indicates it's the climax.
I was expecting some sort of editing or music change to shock the audience in the fight ending early, but the presentation made it clear for the audience how it was gonna end.
>I was expecting some sort of editing or music change to shock the audience in the fight ending early, but the presentation made it clear for the audience how it was gonna end.
It does, the truimphant Invincible theme plays when Mark manages to hit Angstrom and send him flying before he could summon a portal but then the music distorts and peters out as Mark starts beating the shit out of Angstrom.
He was beating his ass pretty bad with the music on though.
That’s true but also the real engaging events don’t happen around this part. We don’t get cool shit like powerplex or mark and Cecil’s fallout or conquest of invincible war or Oliver. That period of the comic they were adapting was always boring honestly but you need it for the later stuff to land
Who the frick is this guy and why do they keep cutting to him randomly.
I mean it was funny, but that was not appropriate for what just happened in the story. Is it there to cut the tension? Why would you want that?
Two things came to my mind, either this comes into play in one of those Guardians of the Globe spinoff comics or it's just a callback to season one.
So Jeffrey Dean Morgan is going to be Conquest's voice actor, thoughts? Could he pull it off? I guess his sadistic monologues were kind of similar to Negan's.
Negan's personality was way more of a laid-back punk jackass, very crude and dark humor. From what I've seen of that character, I don't know if that applies to Conquest.
Conquest is a laid-back oldman who also happens to have a sadistic bloodlust, he acts very down to earth with Mark and compliments him for having the invincible balls to even stand up to him.
Also no way the show will do this panel justice
>Half the scene is done from behind so never see his mouth move
They're saving all the animation budget for pic related
Not a terrible choice but once again Amazon blowing money on hiring expensive actors when they could just hire voice actors, meanwhile the animation will continue to suffer.
Everyone wants it to be like Disney when they had Robin Williams. If not for movies, TV shows too. Just look at Steven Universe with Estelle or Hazbin Hotel with their broadway cast.
frick yeah, more Nolan North and Troy Baker
seriously though, they should just get someone's grandpa in the booth
>not a terrible choice
Dude, Mark is voiced by Steven Yuen, who played Glenn in Walking Dead. Think of what happens to Glenn, then think what Mark does to Conquest, and tell me why they’d have JMD voice Conquest.
>Anissa week came and went with one good image
>We're already moving on
NO
NO
IT'S NOT FAIR
she had the only decent action sequence of the season
For the sake of a hypothetical scenario, how would (You) react if Anissa were to show interest in (You)?
Sexual domination followed by world domination
Bro look at that fricking jaw
>I wanna fix your fricking problem
>That makes me angry
>I'm sorry
>It's just... you have a problem
>And I want to fix it
>Well, when you put it like THAT, it's cool
Anon, women aren't very bright.
>I want to commit procreational acts with you
>ugh! gross! why are you so weird!
>I...I want to j-j-JAM IT IN PONOS IN VAGOO
>Oh well if you put it like that...
He acknowledged he had no social skills and regretted being a dweeb, which instantly makes halfwits less irritating.
The entire point is that he's treating her like a problem to fix instead of interacting with her like a person because he has autism.
>expecting autism neets to understand this
The worst is on /tg/ with the fricking wheelchair item.
>All the universes where your child, lovers and millions of people were killed by Mark and Omni Man
>Get limitless dimension-hopping ability and convergence of consciousness of all your alternate selves
>Then the doctors give you super-strength
>Go after the one good Mark who never killed anyone rather than the ones you know did bad
What exactly is the explanation for this? He could go to any dimension. Why specifically target this one? He could clearly see that this world was different. It wasn't in ruins and there was no Omni Man. He's having flash backs to Mark doing insanely cruel, morbid shit, but they all are clearly a different Mark in a different world. Is Yakub man moronic?
>Is Yakub man moronic?
he has literal brain damage, yes
that was kind of the point
His quest for vengeance is completely justified. They even play a bunch of clips of Mark doing the most heinous, merciless shit to garner sympy for him. But he has endless universes to go exact that revenge against people who deserve it. Why target this one?
Because he fricked up his body. He’s mad that this Mark wronged him and is good, he can’t believe it
Because he has some affinity for his home dimension.
Angstroms not doing this for selfless reasons, he’s doing this for revenge, Mark did screw him over even if it was his fault and the memories are the Justification
>What exactly is the explanation for this?
> Is Yakub man moronic?
Yes. The accident scrambled his brains and he can't pick himself apart from all the other memories and lives. He blames Mark not just for fricking up his experiment but for everything every other Mark did.
Debbie got it right, he's doing it because he can't stand the idea of a world where Mark is the hero and he's the villain.
Mark pointing out that the portal making Angstrom wanted to save him from the Mauler Mob at first causes him to freak the frick out because he literally couldn't come to terms with it.
He's a crazy, mutilated, enhanced, amalgamation of hundreds of Angstrom Levy's from across the multiverse and all of them hate Mark Grayson more than anything else.
My favourite Mark from the episode was chop chop Mark.
what's the story behind this universe? why do they just sit there?
>why do they just sit there?
You have never heard of mass public executions? It happens in every war thorn country, the prisoners are completely tortured and demoralized at this point, why run, just die and be free of this hell.
Mark in that universe grew up as part of the clan and thought Mao had the right idea.
>I … I le killed someome …
>I le killed someone … an unholy abomination of science, an unhinged monster, who tortured my family
>I feel bad now, because I don’t want to be like my le dad, who already is le redeeming himself currently
This is so fricking annoying. Didn’t Mark kill some random goons before or something? Did Rex cry about killing the Lizard League? As a superhero in a world like that with constant random threats and villains emerging almost out of thin air you shouldn’t cry LIKE A PUSSY over killing an interdimensional Monstrum.
Mark is overcompensating. He knows he's capable of ending the world and he associates killing with his dad; in his mind other people can afford to kill but he can't because he mistakenly believes that he will become his father if he kills someone. He'll get over it with time, tho.
But he literally already met his father. He spent 3 months with him. He almost sacrificed his own life fighting together with him. I‘d doesn’t make sense. That trip to bugland happened way too soon. I think for the show they should have delayed it a bit.
>near the end
Ah yes. I can’t wait for this to happen in season 7 in the year 2042. I will be 49 years old then. Thank you!
His father still killed a ton of people. The fact that he can still be the caring dad he remembered as him, and the fact that he still cares about him, does not invalidate that Mark doesn't want to become him. You can spend time with someone else and still not want to end up like him. So far Nolan has proven he can care about other beings but he's also capable of extreme violence. Mark knows the former about himself and doesn't want the latter to be true as well. Again, he's barely out of highschool still.
>He almost sacrificed his own life fighting together with him. I‘d doesn’t make sense. That trip to bugland happened way too soon. I think for the show they should have delayed it a bit.
I think it's an important fight how his fight with Levy and subsequent belief he needs to control himself more directly contrasts with what Mark told him to do, and what Mark did against Levy, and that was not hold back.
The ending of the series thus presents a conflict. On the one hand, he now wants to hold back to avoid another situation like this; on the other, it's been demonstrated that only by releasing that killer instinct can he oppose the Viltrumites and actually have a chance of defending the planet.
Mark is still young and views the world black and white, he’s still a kid and holding onto the no kill rule to justify to himself he’s not a viltrumite and now he has no excuse.
The whole show is basically showing marks different stances on morality until pic related happens near the end and he just goes frick it
Throughout the season, Mark had been dealing with the aftermath of his father's actions and trying his best to not end up like him so him pummeling a man to a bloody pulp in a scene that parallels the S1 finale (Mark looks at his bloodied hands like Omni-Man and trying to justify it with "he made do this" like Nolan did to him) makes it seem like he's just turning out like him. Even if he was actually justified in that scene and literally every character tells him that, Mark is still going to be shaken because of all he went through.
Do you guys think, in real life, that anyone has actually gotten that torn up about killing in self defense? Or to save a loved one? When it comes to ending the life of someone threatening your family I don't see most people giving it a second thought.
>are human beings really effected by killing another human being?
.....yes you fricking psycho
you're both pussies
I get it in some contexts, like if it's by accident or even in warfare, say, if you mow someone down and for all you know they were never going to hurt you. But I think most vets get PTSD because their own lives were threatened, not because they took the most reasonable possible option to defend themselves.
You're just wrong.
There is in each of us an inbuilt aversion to killing our own kind. People spend years and billions of dollars trying to snuff out that aversion, usually by convincing their target that the enemy isn't human.
Killing another person takes something from you that you can never get back.
You have unironically read too much modern bullshit.
Actually I've read too much war history.
It takes a lot to get soldiers to actually kill other human beings, before modern military training and weapons providing some distance most of an army were just bodies on the field trying not to die.
cool story, bro
Nice completely different context you got there, killing to save your family member isn't the same as being shell fricking shocked by being dropped into the war zone and experiencing the horrors of it.
sure thing, kid
Throwing up after killing someone is a complete fricking meme. Ask anyone in the military who has killed a person and they'll just say they did. It's a complete fricking fiction.
Beating a man to death isn't the same as pulling a trigger and watching a guy 100 feet away drop.
cope
>Do you guys think, in real life, that anyone has actually gotten that torn up about killing in self defense?
Yes, of course. It's a very real and understandable emotion. It's also understandable how you could do something out of anger or fear and then feel regret about your response when you're back to being emotionally stable. Are you a fricking psychopath?
I saw it more like Mark being terrified of how easy it was for him to just lose his shit and kill someone and how that could lead to him becoming his father. Theres like a whole montage of him either being compared to Nolan or desperately trying to convince everyone(and himself) that hes not like his dad.
It depends on the person doing it, the situation, and countless other things. If the person doing it doesn't have the psychological strength, or it was traumatizing for them, they might get some PTSD. Of course they wouldn't regret killing the person, but they would feel some disgust about taking a life. It is really just a whole "It Depends" Sort of thing
PTSD appears to strike infrequently but regardless of "psychological strength".
During wartime, they usually send a shitload of 18-21 year olds, people far too young to understand the ramifications of killing, and as a result, when they get their first kill, or experience combat, they get PTSD from the reality of killing. Older people tend to know the ramifications, The Psychological strength is how long it takes for the PTSD to hit, as well as variables on what happened during the war. Some people can be just fine when heading back, but suddenly one day after a few weeks, the war gets to them.
Essentially, the human brain goes survival mode during war, and when you're back home, you go into a state of clarity, and you relive the things you have done
Child soldiers do. Although they are forced to fight and the sex, drugs, and booze only nullifies the pain for so long.
People not exposed to a rough/harsh lifestyle may feel more hollow and blot it out, but not as shocked as the above.
Any webm requests?
Mark beating Angstrom to a pulp I guess, to be honest this episode didn't really have a whole lot of webm-worthy moments
True
1/2
Nice, thanks
2/2
levy tossing oliver
thnx
Monster girl eating a sandwitch
Mark's rage/sorrow induced super speed flight through the stratosphere.
Actually maybe not make this webm if it's too hard. I remember there's a lot of flashbacks during it that may make it too long.
>Smacks him with the fortnite sniper rifle
HE CROSSED STATE LINES
It’s crazy to think Levy and Anissa were both in the same fricking day
I hope future seasons doesn't have Omni man job in every viltrumite fight
>he doesn't know
This shit was garbage
>Oh DupliKate is fine lol
garbage
>DupliKate being fine scene is so awkwardly paced I thought it was supposed to be a dream sequence
garbage
>Here's a egypt segment just to put in more californian virtue signalling
garbage
>the most hideous future atom eve I could have ever imagined, I actually thought it was alternate universe male eve
garbage
>Completely justified self-defense killing 10 minutes in followed by 40 minutes of boohoo
garbage
>incredibly cringe and out of place meta humor two episodes in a row with a spiderverse bit
garbage
>invincible, atom eve, strong independent black womyn who dont need no mark love triangle
garbage
>sandra oh carrying the entire series
pretty good
>rex only having one line
very good
>Love triangle
It's more a straight line now, anon. Amber is fricking done unless they try and force her into non-canon shit
>>rex only having one line
not even that
So how long are we looking at for S3? Another 4 years?
Next year probably, it's already deep into production as it was made back to back with season two. Season 4 might be another long wait though if Amazon takes a while to renew the show.
INVINCIBLE KILLED A BLACK MAN PROCEEDS TO CRY FOR THE ENTIRE EPISODE.
Holy woke garbage.
INVINCIBLE KILLED A BLACK MAN PROCEEDS TO CRY FOR THE ENTIRE EPISODE.
Holy woke garbage.
INVINCIBLE KILLED A BLACK MAN PROCEEDS TO CRY FOR THE ENTIRE EPISODE.
Holy woke garbage.
Holy homosexual.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRICK THIS SHOW
That was a season finale?
Will we get a single crossover?
I hope not, crossovers ruined that concept, invincible war needs a whole ep or 2
I didn't like that episode at all, a solid 70% of it just felt like filler.
For a season finale we've waited years for it was disapointing.
>For a season finale we've waited years for
As someone who read the comic, this was not the season finale we were waiting for
I too have read the comics, I just mean that we waited a stupidly long time for season 2 after the first and we just get... this.
I feel underwhelmed
Just finished reading the comics and holy shit Eve and Mark can't go though thee issues without some moronic drama ruining their relationship. The worst one was near the end where she was fricking some alien chad after Mark had disappeared and after he comes back she treats him like a stranger.
That's why I hope the show tones down their relationship drama from here on out, the way the show handled Amber by giving some relationship drama to her too should have clued the show writers, director and Hickman himself that kind of shit has overstayed its welcome.
Show-onlys really love Eve right now and are just crossing their fingers for her to get together with Mark how that Amber is out of the picture.
Eve's unblemished image will definitely fall a lot in the following Seasons if the show does keep all of Mark and Eve's back and forth relationship issues. One abortion and two times where Eve jumps into another wiener, while Mark never cheated on her once, he had to get raped to even touch another woman.
The frick are you talking about? She moved on after he was gone for five years and waited for three whole years. How is that cheating?
Was this not adapted then? I always thought it was a stand out moment tbh
I thought his name rhymed with heavy.
Pretty funny scene ngl
RIP that one looper that has to fight for his life without a sniper
So the next season finale will be the conquest fight?
Yes. I’d imagine S4 will be viltrumite war
Predicting the finales
>Season 3- Conquest
>Season 4- Viltrumite War
>Season 5- Dinosaurus betrayal
>Season 6- Robot's takeover
>Season 7- Reboot
>Season 8- Robot War
If the show is only having seven seasons then I can also see them condensing season 6 and 7 into one.
>Season 7- Reboot
There's no fricking way Reboot will be treated to a whole season after the animation so far has trimmed several events to focus on the big stuff. In 16 episodes, 2 seasons, the show has gone through 44 comic issues, out of 144.
I meant Reboot as the season finale of the seventh
>implying it gets renewed after season 3
You guys are silly, this show's never going to make it to 8 seasons
It is literally the only top successful animation Amazon has, even if the budget drops to pennies they will keep going as long as the audience doesn't walk away from it in droves, if by Season 3, which definitely covers events that would keep people hooked as much as they did on Season 1, Amazon doesn't renew for more two Seasons then you can say it is dead.
people want to see viltrumites
dinosaurus and the reboot arc are getting trimmed down 100%
Reboot could be reworked as an emotional finale for the penultimate season kind of thing where it's a turning point for Mark if he wants to be given the chance to make things better from the start or continue living in the original timeline he came from. They'll definitely have to alter the pacing so it wouldn't come off as randomnly jarring as it did in the comic.
this didn't feel like a season finale ngl. not even like a mid season finale either
The actual mid season finale was better
Does he mutter the Black person under his breath the whole time while visibly aroused?
I want season 3 to be canned so the last line this series ever gets is "I think I miss my wife".
If Hickman isn't lying about the series' progress then Season 3 was worked on almost simultaneously along with Season 2; so your best doomer outcome is Amazon pulling the plug after Season 3 airs, not renewing for a 4th and 5th Seasons.
>If Hickman isn't lying about the series' progress then Season 3 was worked on almost simultaneously along with Season 2; so your best doomer outcome is Amazon pulling the plug after Season 3 airs,
No, it's not impossible that they just completely scrap it right before production finishes. Over in video game land, we had a certain game make it all the way to getting an open beta shortly before its release, then got completely cancelled two weeks after the open beta in response to how badly it went. Even if season 3 is on the cusp of being finished, there's precedent for the possibility of it getting cancelled before finishing.
That happens only with straight up awful products they are going to just damage the brand while not earning much because of how bad they are. Invincible has been a bit underwhelming, but season 3 is gonna air no matter what unless the apocalypse happens.
>unless the apocalypse happens.
Well, we just got done with a global pandemic people thought couldn't happen, so that's not out of the question.
What's with Cecil's agents asking people who obviously need urgent medical attention if they're okay?
Did Rex and Debbie look okay to them?
No, Anissa is strong and very fast but not stronger than Nolan or Conquest.
No spoilers but Mark had a very emotionally and physically draining day and then Anissa raped him
Comicgays, how many seasons do you reckon there'll be if the entire series gets adapted?
7 should be just about enough based on the pace they are going
It's been 2 seasons. We're up to issue #33 out of #145.
The creators are cramming a lot of issues into each episode, i guess they want to tell the entire story in the shortest amount of seasons possible before they get cancelled.
So... another 5 seasons left?
>We're up to issue #33
Issue 46
Hickman himself guesses 7 to 8 Seasons, and that could actually be accurate. Two Seasons, 16 episodes so far covered about 45 comic issues, out of 144, by really focusing on the bigger events, trimming down minor events that really must be kept since it involves the main cast, while cutting others that involves the larger world completely distanced from Mark and the Viltrumites.
The show so far has shown plenty enough that Viltrumites and anything that involves them directly is what takes priority over anything else, future seasons will likely shape themselves on that front.
7 or 8 sounds cool. That's still a shit load of episodes.
what are some of the biggest changes they did narrative wise for Invincible?
Only major one i know of is Omni-Man's betrayal and fight with Mark takes place much later in the cartoon as opposed to the comic.
Omni-Man is apparently not as bloodthirsty in the comics from what I've heard.
It goes both ways, the show did make Nolan more unhinged in his reveal as a space conqueror, but the show also made him more emotionally conflicted through the whole thing, it made it clear to portray Nolan as loving Mark and his time on Earth right away, in the comic we only get Nolan thinking about how much he loved his family and time on Earth when we see him again in Thraxa and in his prison time in Viltrumite captivity.
Also the show made him feel way more anguish and guilt, Nolan in the comic wasn’t suicidal after leaving Earth, and his move towards Thraxa was less benign in the comic, there he "peacefully" conquered Thraxa in hopes Viltrum would just forgive him leaving his post on Earth, Nolan growin to love Andressa and having another child was an unforeseen consequence.
They changed the Anissa thing from threatening his mother to Amber and being the reason the breakup happens in the same day as Levy rather than having that dumbass love triangle with Eve.
William is openly gay and not calling Mark a homosexual then turning gay later.
Debbie is an actual character and not a complete co-dependant mess
Shrinking rae is alive for now
Donald gets more screen time
I could go on but the main advantage the show has is that the comic is that everything is much more consistent. Invincible comic was very schizophrenic while the show is clear and concise with natural foreshadowing.
The big beats are the same but the little beats have been changed so much it's almost unrecognisable
I like how they're setting up atom eve to be "the one" for mark but in the comics she just turns out to be yet another raging c**t whose relationship with mark is a rollercoaster. Wonder if they'll change her or keep the overplayed drama that kirkman loved shoving in.
Definitely will remove the abortion, that shit was so pointless. Hopefully will remove the cuck 5 year plot too because Mark just got punished for no fricking reason just so bugussy army could happen
Hickman has grown into an even bigger Californian lib since he made comic decades ago, and Seth Rogan is part of show's creative team, I would be surprised if the abortion plot is removed.
Both of those things will most likely be kept in the plot with even more show-original, pointless shit sprinkled in if the fricking mummy guy with uka uka's voice is anything to go by
>Eve it's my fault you got an abortion, I shouldn't have left to fight a universe-scale war
>Eve it's my fault that Robot fricked me over and I disappeared for 6 months
>Eve it's my fault Anissa raped me, subconsciously I might have wanted it.
Kirkman is a pussy, always has been.
>the cuck 5 year plot
That shit was so dumb. I swear so many modern comic writers have this weird cuck fetish man.
they'll tone her down for sure. same for anissa
The future guardians saving Mark is fricking bullshit.
The writers should've changed that scene and come up with something else instead.
Yeah, like what fricking universe are they from? If they're from the same as Mark's, how the frick did they survive the Viltrumite conquest that would have occurred in that twenty year span?
They say the future without Mark wasn't good so I think that implies Conquest bodied everyone and they took over
And then was probably killed by Robot. Notice that Rudy isn't in the party
Rex was Rudy.
Noticed that "Rex" was way younger than Eve?
And they all just didn't fight to try to stop him like a bunch of cowards?
They prob did but Conquest would frick the planet on his own. Cecil does have that frequency weakness but i'd imagine the planet would be ravaged and they'd spent most of the time in hiding. Thats not even considering the sequids
It can be simply attributed to them finding some, if not all, Viltrumite weakness. Future reveals will make Viltrumites seem less unbeatable than they seem right now.
Probably lost half the cities and countries. Robot with time plus space UN and Nolan probably made a good difference as well.
think they'll adapt the time travel to the past sub-plot?
I enjoyed it, but it didn't really contribute much to the plot .
Wtf?
Could a Viltrumite beat Nappa?
_no
Couldn't even beat Raditz.
One of the strongest ones probably, the strongest saiyans could only planet busy using energy blasts against a planet's core, which is basically cheating. They couldn't do it physically, and I am pretty sure Nappa never blasted any planet either way.