Invincible comic book

Why is the comic book so much better than the show? Oh yeah, no woke politics or E.S.G.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Define woke without sounding mad.

      So, do minorities just live rent free in your head?
      Boy, you got to monetize that shit.

      Anything that isn't a straight white man being the best at everything.

      It means nothing. It means whatever culture war brain rot that politicians and wokespotters want you to think it is.

      Culture war/tumblr 2012-2016 was all a big CIA gay op.
      I'm quite tired of it, anytime I see it (from either 'side') I just feel like I age a century.

      cry harder chuds

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        both parties have pedos. biden groped a girl on C-SPAN and Trump was buddies with Epstein

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          My boy Bill also knew how to play saxophone with Epestien and the girls

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes i think that is likely

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Trump was buddies with Epstein
          That's why he banned him from his properties and helped his victims seek justice lol.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            trump is associated with alan dershowitz. dershowitz in the past said the age of consent should be lowered to 15

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            trump is associated with alan dershowitz. dershowitz in the past said the age of consent should be lowered to 15

            https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/30/20746983/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-sarah-ransome-giuffre

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Define woke without sounding mad.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anything that isn't a straight white man being the best at everything.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anti-white

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is Invincible anti White? Explain.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >MC's mom raceswapped from white to korean
          >MC raceswapped from white to half-korean
          >Rexplosion raceswapped from white to latino
          >Amber raceswapped from white to black
          Notice anything?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no, the first girlfriend and the guy who died aren't white anymore. The horror.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous
            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >conveniently ignores the MC
              Why are only white characters being raceswapped? Why didn't they raceswap any black characters into being white?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Main villain this season is a black guy whose entire character is that he carried out a over-elaborate plan in the most moronic way possible and it's basically acknowledged in the writing that he's an egotistical frick up.

        Not to mention the not-batman sidekick written to be a headcase psycho. And that one c**t who blamed Debbie for what her husband did.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Main villain this season
          That's not true, he's not even a villain in this season. He's barely a secondary character.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            he's a single issue monster

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        anything done to emasculate or dehumanize/other white people, white men specifically

        So, Captain Marvel is NOT woke.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It means nothing. It means whatever culture war brain rot that politicians and wokespotters want you to think it is.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Culture war/tumblr 2012-2016 was all a big CIA gay op.
        I'm quite tired of it, anytime I see it (from either 'side') I just feel like I age a century.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        dilate

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hillary lost lil bro. Get over it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      woke is when gay brown women

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        What if she's an attractive gay brown woman

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Woke is defined by several consistent attributes. Woke is Academic - the terminology of woke politics is an academic terminology, which is unsurprising given its origins in humanities departments of elite universities.
      Central to woke discourse is the substitution of older and less complicated versions of socially liberal perspectives with more willfully complex academic versions. So civil rights are out, "anti-racism" is in. Community is out, intersectionality is in. Equality is out, equity is in.
      Homelessness is out, unhousedness is in. Sexism is out, misogyny is in. Advantage is out, privilege is in.
      Whenever there's an opportunity to introduce an alternative concept that's been wrung through academia's weird machinery, that opportunity is taken. This has the advantage of making political engagement available only to a priestly caste that has enjoyed the benefits of elite university education; like all political movements, the woke political movement is captured by the urge to occupy elevated status within it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Immaterial - woke politics are overwhelmingly concerned with the linguistic, the symbolic, and the emotional to the detriment of the material, the economic, and the real.
        Woke politics are famously obsessive about language, developing literal language policies that are endlessly long and exacting. Utterances are mined for potential offense with pitiless focus, such that statements that were entirely anodyne a few years ago become unspeakable today. Being politically pure is seen as a matter of speaking correctly rather than of acting morally. The woke fixation on language and symbol makes sense when you realize that the developers of the ideology are almost entirely people whose profession involves the immaterial and the symbolic - professors, writers, reporters, artists, pundits. They retreat to the linguistic because they feel that words are their only source of power. Consider two recent events: the Academy Awards giving Oscars to many people of color and Michigan repealing its right-to-work law. The latter will have vastly greater positive consequences for actually-existing American people of color than the former, and yet the former has been vastly better publicized. This is a direct consequence of the incentive structure of woke politics.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Structural in analysis, individual in action - the woke perspective is one that tends to see the world's problems as structural in nature rather than the product of individual actors or actions. Sometimes the problems are misdiagnosed or exaggerated, but the structural focus is beneficial. Curiously, though, the woke approach to solutions to politics is relentlessly individualistic. Rather than calling for true mass movements (which you cannot create without the moderation and compromise the social justice set tends to abhor), woke politics typically treats all political struggle as a matter of the individual mastering themselves and behaving correctly. The fundamental unit of politics is not the masses but the enlightened person, in the social justice mindset, and the enlightened person is one who has attained a state of moral cleanliness, particularly as expressed in language. The structural problems (such as racism) are represented as fundamentally combated with individual moral correctness (such as articulated in White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which argues that racism is combated by white people interrogating their souls rather than with policy). The only real political project is the struggle against the self; the only real political victory is the mastery of one's thoughts. The distinction between the effective political actor and the morally hygienic thinker is collapsed. You combat homophobia by being gay-affirming. You combat misogyny by respecting women.
          You combat all social ills by relentlessly fixating on your own position in society and feeling bad about it. Nothing political can escape the gravity of personal psychodrama and no solutions exist but cleansing the self.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Emotionalist - “emotionalist” rather than emotional, meaning not necessarily inappropriately emotional but concerned fundamentally with emotions as the currency of politics. In woke circles, political problems are regularly diagnosed as a matter of the wrong emotions being inspired in someone. Someone feeling “invalid” is no longer an irrelevant matter of personal psychology best left to a therapist but instead a political problem to be solved, and anyone who provoked that feeling is someone who has committed a political crime no matter what the context or pretext. Good political action makes people feel better. To the extent that material victories like feeding the hungry are celebrated, they are celebrated because they inspire good feelings rather than solve corporeal problems. The famous woke antipathy towards the concept of civil liberties and personal freedoms stems from the triumph of emotions; things like rights are no match for the claims of any individual of psychic distress. Economic, legal, and political inequality are all relevant only to the extent that they make people from minority identities sad. The fixation on emotions fits snugly in the assumption of the individual as the basic unit of politics. It also ensures that woke politics assume the possibility of a frictionless universe in which everyone feels good all the time.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fatalistic - woke politics tend towards extreme fatalism regarding solutions and the possibility of gradual positive political change. Institutions are all corrupt and bigoted, so institutions cannot prompt change. Most people are irredeemably racist, and so the masses cannot create a just society. Constructive police reform is inherently and irrevocably impossible, so the only response to police violence is police abolition, no matter that we can’t actually achieve police abolition. Everything and everyone is presumed to be unapologetically bigoted until proven otherwise. Problems can’t be solved gradually through small steps over time, but only through revolutionary change, which itself will inevitably be blocked by the white-cis-male power structure. Everything sucks all the time, which incidentally justifies yelling all the time for people who enjoy yelling. The purpose of politics is not to sacrifice in the pursuit of change but to occupy the position of eternal Cassandra, someone who identifies the evil but never stops it.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Insistent that all political questions are easy - woke people speak and act as though there are no hard political questions and no such thing as a moral dilemma. Everything is obvious if you’ve only done the reading and done the work, which woke people assure you they did long ago. If you don’t know what the right thing to do or say is, it’s only because you aren’t really dedicated; if you think you’ve hit upon a real dilemma of conflicting but legitimate concerns, you’re simply lacking in education and wisdom. It’s funny, actually, that you don’t know the exact right thing to think, right now. I’m actually laughing. Possessed of belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed - what was assumed by Bertrand Russel to be obviously misguided is now assumed to be true without evaluation: virtue is not just common among the oppressed, virtue is a function of oppression. The correlation between virtue and oppression is one.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >sees the world's problems as strutural

            only conditionally, since it ignores marxism and dialectic materialism. but they never go fully left because then they would put class consciousness before idpol. none of the oppression that they think they're "combating" is actually being combated, it's sheer, empty virtue signalling

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >none of the oppression that they think they're "combating" is actually being combated, it's sheer, empty virtue signalling
              And you have reached it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Question, when was the last time you had sex?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          What does that matter? Are you upset you got a real answer and now need to resort to frustrated ad hominem?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Immaterial - woke politics are overwhelmingly concerned with the linguistic, the symbolic, and the emotional to the detriment of the material, the economic, and the real.
        Woke politics are famously obsessive about language, developing literal language policies that are endlessly long and exacting. Utterances are mined for potential offense with pitiless focus, such that statements that were entirely anodyne a few years ago become unspeakable today. Being politically pure is seen as a matter of speaking correctly rather than of acting morally. The woke fixation on language and symbol makes sense when you realize that the developers of the ideology are almost entirely people whose profession involves the immaterial and the symbolic - professors, writers, reporters, artists, pundits. They retreat to the linguistic because they feel that words are their only source of power. Consider two recent events: the Academy Awards giving Oscars to many people of color and Michigan repealing its right-to-work law. The latter will have vastly greater positive consequences for actually-existing American people of color than the former, and yet the former has been vastly better publicized. This is a direct consequence of the incentive structure of woke politics.

        Structural in analysis, individual in action - the woke perspective is one that tends to see the world's problems as structural in nature rather than the product of individual actors or actions. Sometimes the problems are misdiagnosed or exaggerated, but the structural focus is beneficial. Curiously, though, the woke approach to solutions to politics is relentlessly individualistic. Rather than calling for true mass movements (which you cannot create without the moderation and compromise the social justice set tends to abhor), woke politics typically treats all political struggle as a matter of the individual mastering themselves and behaving correctly. The fundamental unit of politics is not the masses but the enlightened person, in the social justice mindset, and the enlightened person is one who has attained a state of moral cleanliness, particularly as expressed in language. The structural problems (such as racism) are represented as fundamentally combated with individual moral correctness (such as articulated in White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which argues that racism is combated by white people interrogating their souls rather than with policy). The only real political project is the struggle against the self; the only real political victory is the mastery of one's thoughts. The distinction between the effective political actor and the morally hygienic thinker is collapsed. You combat homophobia by being gay-affirming. You combat misogyny by respecting women.
        You combat all social ills by relentlessly fixating on your own position in society and feeling bad about it. Nothing political can escape the gravity of personal psychodrama and no solutions exist but cleansing the self.

        What does that matter? Are you upset you got a real answer and now need to resort to frustrated ad hominem?

        Status: Mad as frick

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gets a real answer
          >can’t argue
          >tries ad hominem
          >fails
          >starts projecting
          Why?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >y-you're projecting
            Bro if you (or this other anon if that ain't you) didn't write all this because you're mad

            Emotionalist - “emotionalist” rather than emotional, meaning not necessarily inappropriately emotional but concerned fundamentally with emotions as the currency of politics. In woke circles, political problems are regularly diagnosed as a matter of the wrong emotions being inspired in someone. Someone feeling “invalid” is no longer an irrelevant matter of personal psychology best left to a therapist but instead a political problem to be solved, and anyone who provoked that feeling is someone who has committed a political crime no matter what the context or pretext. Good political action makes people feel better. To the extent that material victories like feeding the hungry are celebrated, they are celebrated because they inspire good feelings rather than solve corporeal problems. The famous woke antipathy towards the concept of civil liberties and personal freedoms stems from the triumph of emotions; things like rights are no match for the claims of any individual of psychic distress. Economic, legal, and political inequality are all relevant only to the extent that they make people from minority identities sad. The fixation on emotions fits snugly in the assumption of the individual as the basic unit of politics. It also ensures that woke politics assume the possibility of a frictionless universe in which everyone feels good all the time.

            Fatalistic - woke politics tend towards extreme fatalism regarding solutions and the possibility of gradual positive political change. Institutions are all corrupt and bigoted, so institutions cannot prompt change. Most people are irredeemably racist, and so the masses cannot create a just society. Constructive police reform is inherently and irrevocably impossible, so the only response to police violence is police abolition, no matter that we can’t actually achieve police abolition. Everything and everyone is presumed to be unapologetically bigoted until proven otherwise. Problems can’t be solved gradually through small steps over time, but only through revolutionary change, which itself will inevitably be blocked by the white-cis-male power structure. Everything sucks all the time, which incidentally justifies yelling all the time for people who enjoy yelling. The purpose of politics is not to sacrifice in the pursuit of change but to occupy the position of eternal Cassandra, someone who identifies the evil but never stops it.

            Insistent that all political questions are easy - woke people speak and act as though there are no hard political questions and no such thing as a moral dilemma. Everything is obvious if you’ve only done the reading and done the work, which woke people assure you they did long ago. If you don’t know what the right thing to do or say is, it’s only because you aren’t really dedicated; if you think you’ve hit upon a real dilemma of conflicting but legitimate concerns, you’re simply lacking in education and wisdom. It’s funny, actually, that you don’t know the exact right thing to think, right now. I’m actually laughing. Possessed of belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed - what was assumed by Bertrand Russel to be obviously misguided is now assumed to be true without evaluation: virtue is not just common among the oppressed, virtue is a function of oppression. The correlation between virtue and oppression is one.

            Then unironically touch grass. Its a comic for edge lord teens, it ain't that deep. We've got real issues in the world

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >didn't write all this because you're mad
              I didn’t, it’s a copypasta newbie
              >Then unironically touch grass. Its a comic for edge lord teens, it ain't that deep. We've got real issues in the world
              You asked a question and I answered it, if you want to throw a tantrum and start spouting buzzwords you can but don’t think you’re not going to be called out.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wasted quads. Touch grass.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep seething kid.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep being mad, grandpa.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh so you are underaged, thanks for clarifying that.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you're old as frick and mad at comic books? Grow up gramps.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >abandons argument to desperately hurl insults
                >outs himself as a child
                I’m 23 btw, and by the way you’re acting I’m going to assume you’re 15 🙂

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >smiley face
                Go back to twitter

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you just going back and forth looking for anything to call out? You’re b***hing about “right wing boogey-men” you have no right to tell anyone to go back.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are multiple people in this conversation now.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                you understand he was using it facetiously, right?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. I'm not giving him anymore yous, he's craving my attention though since he can't handle being outed as mad.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one who shouldn't be responding.
                I didn't see any mad here, just autists. Which is a good thing.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The challenge was to define woke without sounding mad. That wall of words sounds mad.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >That wall of words sounds mad
              How? Did you read what was there?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just briefly skimming through it has mad looking phrases. I’m not really going to read through all of that. If you can’t define something in one or two sentences then you’re trying too fricking hard.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >mad looking phrases
                Like what? Also you being anal about what makes a definition isn’t going to help your argument, all it said was to give a definition.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man, there’s so much there that looks angry. Look, I’ll define “woke”

                Woke = Aware of injustice.

                That’s how you define woke without sounding mad. What that dude was doing was ranting about elites and his opinions concerning how sone people use words. His entire essay looked mad.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                That’s the older meaning, it’s changed since it was first coined by SJW’s back around 2013/14. Also again do you have any examples? Because nothing he said was wrong, most of this shit is propagated by academics.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                The meaning has been changed by people who are against it, just like ESG means absolutely nothing about "replacing everyone with blacks".
                It's boogey-man talk by arch conservatives speaking for corporations.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Woke basically just means "anything with black people and women protagonists" nowadays

                It’s not considering I gave a definition (which we are currently arguing about) but you trying to go the “it’s a meaningless term” is funny especially given how you tried to give your own definition. Also stop samegayging.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nowhere in the thread did I declare that "woke" or "ESG" had no meaning. ESG was coined to easily label investment opportunities in companies that were run and behaved properly and didn't massively pollute.
                It became a Right Wing bogey-man because it was successfully diverting capital investment into cleaner alternative industries, and WE CAN'T HAVE DAT.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You did in the other comment, which I called you out for and you’re trying to deflect away from.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've literally only posted a few times in this thread, most of them about Viltrumites. Sorry, I'm not whoever you've been squabbling with.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Considering that I commented to two people, the poster count has barely gone up, and you have yet to post a screen cap and keep trying to deflect, you are. Are you tourist? This is something a tourist would do.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Woke basically just means "anything with black people and women protagonists" nowadays

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                The meaning I gave is what woke still means. Even people that you’re whining about are simply concerned about a perceived injustice.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not really given that they’re perpetuating the same kinds of injustice, the difference is they fly the “right” banner

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno son, every time an injustice by those who believe in those causes always end up being smokescreens for a scam.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Immaterial - woke politics are overwhelmingly concerned with the linguistic, the symbolic, and the emotional to the detriment of the material, the economic, and the real.
        Woke politics are famously obsessive about language, developing literal language policies that are endlessly long and exacting. Utterances are mined for potential offense with pitiless focus, such that statements that were entirely anodyne a few years ago become unspeakable today. Being politically pure is seen as a matter of speaking correctly rather than of acting morally. The woke fixation on language and symbol makes sense when you realize that the developers of the ideology are almost entirely people whose profession involves the immaterial and the symbolic - professors, writers, reporters, artists, pundits. They retreat to the linguistic because they feel that words are their only source of power. Consider two recent events: the Academy Awards giving Oscars to many people of color and Michigan repealing its right-to-work law. The latter will have vastly greater positive consequences for actually-existing American people of color than the former, and yet the former has been vastly better publicized. This is a direct consequence of the incentive structure of woke politics.

        Structural in analysis, individual in action - the woke perspective is one that tends to see the world's problems as structural in nature rather than the product of individual actors or actions. Sometimes the problems are misdiagnosed or exaggerated, but the structural focus is beneficial. Curiously, though, the woke approach to solutions to politics is relentlessly individualistic. Rather than calling for true mass movements (which you cannot create without the moderation and compromise the social justice set tends to abhor), woke politics typically treats all political struggle as a matter of the individual mastering themselves and behaving correctly. The fundamental unit of politics is not the masses but the enlightened person, in the social justice mindset, and the enlightened person is one who has attained a state of moral cleanliness, particularly as expressed in language. The structural problems (such as racism) are represented as fundamentally combated with individual moral correctness (such as articulated in White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which argues that racism is combated by white people interrogating their souls rather than with policy). The only real political project is the struggle against the self; the only real political victory is the mastery of one's thoughts. The distinction between the effective political actor and the morally hygienic thinker is collapsed. You combat homophobia by being gay-affirming. You combat misogyny by respecting women.
        You combat all social ills by relentlessly fixating on your own position in society and feeling bad about it. Nothing political can escape the gravity of personal psychodrama and no solutions exist but cleansing the self.

        Emotionalist - “emotionalist” rather than emotional, meaning not necessarily inappropriately emotional but concerned fundamentally with emotions as the currency of politics. In woke circles, political problems are regularly diagnosed as a matter of the wrong emotions being inspired in someone. Someone feeling “invalid” is no longer an irrelevant matter of personal psychology best left to a therapist but instead a political problem to be solved, and anyone who provoked that feeling is someone who has committed a political crime no matter what the context or pretext. Good political action makes people feel better. To the extent that material victories like feeding the hungry are celebrated, they are celebrated because they inspire good feelings rather than solve corporeal problems. The famous woke antipathy towards the concept of civil liberties and personal freedoms stems from the triumph of emotions; things like rights are no match for the claims of any individual of psychic distress. Economic, legal, and political inequality are all relevant only to the extent that they make people from minority identities sad. The fixation on emotions fits snugly in the assumption of the individual as the basic unit of politics. It also ensures that woke politics assume the possibility of a frictionless universe in which everyone feels good all the time.

        Fatalistic - woke politics tend towards extreme fatalism regarding solutions and the possibility of gradual positive political change. Institutions are all corrupt and bigoted, so institutions cannot prompt change. Most people are irredeemably racist, and so the masses cannot create a just society. Constructive police reform is inherently and irrevocably impossible, so the only response to police violence is police abolition, no matter that we can’t actually achieve police abolition. Everything and everyone is presumed to be unapologetically bigoted until proven otherwise. Problems can’t be solved gradually through small steps over time, but only through revolutionary change, which itself will inevitably be blocked by the white-cis-male power structure. Everything sucks all the time, which incidentally justifies yelling all the time for people who enjoy yelling. The purpose of politics is not to sacrifice in the pursuit of change but to occupy the position of eternal Cassandra, someone who identifies the evil but never stops it.

        Insistent that all political questions are easy - woke people speak and act as though there are no hard political questions and no such thing as a moral dilemma. Everything is obvious if you’ve only done the reading and done the work, which woke people assure you they did long ago. If you don’t know what the right thing to do or say is, it’s only because you aren’t really dedicated; if you think you’ve hit upon a real dilemma of conflicting but legitimate concerns, you’re simply lacking in education and wisdom. It’s funny, actually, that you don’t know the exact right thing to think, right now. I’m actually laughing. Possessed of belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed - what was assumed by Bertrand Russel to be obviously misguided is now assumed to be true without evaluation: virtue is not just common among the oppressed, virtue is a function of oppression. The correlation between virtue and oppression is one.

        They asked for a definition, not a fricking essay.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is reading really that hard?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            When it sounds like a lunatic wrote it, rambling about shit like "eternal Cassandra", sure.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Read a book son, I recommend the Iliad

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        If I feed some disjointed lines to Chat GPT, would probably get more coherent ramblings.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s funny how you think that going back to the first comment is going to make it look like you a different person, even though the thread counter hasn’t gone up since your last reply. Why did this buck break you so bad?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Immaterial - woke politics are overwhelmingly concerned with the linguistic, the symbolic, and the emotional to the detriment of the material, the economic, and the real.
        Woke politics are famously obsessive about language, developing literal language policies that are endlessly long and exacting. Utterances are mined for potential offense with pitiless focus, such that statements that were entirely anodyne a few years ago become unspeakable today. Being politically pure is seen as a matter of speaking correctly rather than of acting morally. The woke fixation on language and symbol makes sense when you realize that the developers of the ideology are almost entirely people whose profession involves the immaterial and the symbolic - professors, writers, reporters, artists, pundits. They retreat to the linguistic because they feel that words are their only source of power. Consider two recent events: the Academy Awards giving Oscars to many people of color and Michigan repealing its right-to-work law. The latter will have vastly greater positive consequences for actually-existing American people of color than the former, and yet the former has been vastly better publicized. This is a direct consequence of the incentive structure of woke politics.

        Structural in analysis, individual in action - the woke perspective is one that tends to see the world's problems as structural in nature rather than the product of individual actors or actions. Sometimes the problems are misdiagnosed or exaggerated, but the structural focus is beneficial. Curiously, though, the woke approach to solutions to politics is relentlessly individualistic. Rather than calling for true mass movements (which you cannot create without the moderation and compromise the social justice set tends to abhor), woke politics typically treats all political struggle as a matter of the individual mastering themselves and behaving correctly. The fundamental unit of politics is not the masses but the enlightened person, in the social justice mindset, and the enlightened person is one who has attained a state of moral cleanliness, particularly as expressed in language. The structural problems (such as racism) are represented as fundamentally combated with individual moral correctness (such as articulated in White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which argues that racism is combated by white people interrogating their souls rather than with policy). The only real political project is the struggle against the self; the only real political victory is the mastery of one's thoughts. The distinction between the effective political actor and the morally hygienic thinker is collapsed. You combat homophobia by being gay-affirming. You combat misogyny by respecting women.
        You combat all social ills by relentlessly fixating on your own position in society and feeling bad about it. Nothing political can escape the gravity of personal psychodrama and no solutions exist but cleansing the self.

        Emotionalist - “emotionalist” rather than emotional, meaning not necessarily inappropriately emotional but concerned fundamentally with emotions as the currency of politics. In woke circles, political problems are regularly diagnosed as a matter of the wrong emotions being inspired in someone. Someone feeling “invalid” is no longer an irrelevant matter of personal psychology best left to a therapist but instead a political problem to be solved, and anyone who provoked that feeling is someone who has committed a political crime no matter what the context or pretext. Good political action makes people feel better. To the extent that material victories like feeding the hungry are celebrated, they are celebrated because they inspire good feelings rather than solve corporeal problems. The famous woke antipathy towards the concept of civil liberties and personal freedoms stems from the triumph of emotions; things like rights are no match for the claims of any individual of psychic distress. Economic, legal, and political inequality are all relevant only to the extent that they make people from minority identities sad. The fixation on emotions fits snugly in the assumption of the individual as the basic unit of politics. It also ensures that woke politics assume the possibility of a frictionless universe in which everyone feels good all the time.

        Fatalistic - woke politics tend towards extreme fatalism regarding solutions and the possibility of gradual positive political change. Institutions are all corrupt and bigoted, so institutions cannot prompt change. Most people are irredeemably racist, and so the masses cannot create a just society. Constructive police reform is inherently and irrevocably impossible, so the only response to police violence is police abolition, no matter that we can’t actually achieve police abolition. Everything and everyone is presumed to be unapologetically bigoted until proven otherwise. Problems can’t be solved gradually through small steps over time, but only through revolutionary change, which itself will inevitably be blocked by the white-cis-male power structure. Everything sucks all the time, which incidentally justifies yelling all the time for people who enjoy yelling. The purpose of politics is not to sacrifice in the pursuit of change but to occupy the position of eternal Cassandra, someone who identifies the evil but never stops it.

        Insistent that all political questions are easy - woke people speak and act as though there are no hard political questions and no such thing as a moral dilemma. Everything is obvious if you’ve only done the reading and done the work, which woke people assure you they did long ago. If you don’t know what the right thing to do or say is, it’s only because you aren’t really dedicated; if you think you’ve hit upon a real dilemma of conflicting but legitimate concerns, you’re simply lacking in education and wisdom. It’s funny, actually, that you don’t know the exact right thing to think, right now. I’m actually laughing. Possessed of belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed - what was assumed by Bertrand Russel to be obviously misguided is now assumed to be true without evaluation: virtue is not just common among the oppressed, virtue is a function of oppression. The correlation between virtue and oppression is one.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >changing the words and vocabulary

        that isn't a perspective, it's just liberals throwing in JARGON instead of just using marxist vocabulary, but marxist vocab would get to the real problem which liberal capitalists do not want

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Immaterial - woke politics are overwhelmingly concerned with the linguistic, the symbolic, and the emotional to the detriment of the material, the economic, and the real.
        Woke politics are famously obsessive about language, developing literal language policies that are endlessly long and exacting. Utterances are mined for potential offense with pitiless focus, such that statements that were entirely anodyne a few years ago become unspeakable today. Being politically pure is seen as a matter of speaking correctly rather than of acting morally. The woke fixation on language and symbol makes sense when you realize that the developers of the ideology are almost entirely people whose profession involves the immaterial and the symbolic - professors, writers, reporters, artists, pundits. They retreat to the linguistic because they feel that words are their only source of power. Consider two recent events: the Academy Awards giving Oscars to many people of color and Michigan repealing its right-to-work law. The latter will have vastly greater positive consequences for actually-existing American people of color than the former, and yet the former has been vastly better publicized. This is a direct consequence of the incentive structure of woke politics.

        Structural in analysis, individual in action - the woke perspective is one that tends to see the world's problems as structural in nature rather than the product of individual actors or actions. Sometimes the problems are misdiagnosed or exaggerated, but the structural focus is beneficial. Curiously, though, the woke approach to solutions to politics is relentlessly individualistic. Rather than calling for true mass movements (which you cannot create without the moderation and compromise the social justice set tends to abhor), woke politics typically treats all political struggle as a matter of the individual mastering themselves and behaving correctly. The fundamental unit of politics is not the masses but the enlightened person, in the social justice mindset, and the enlightened person is one who has attained a state of moral cleanliness, particularly as expressed in language. The structural problems (such as racism) are represented as fundamentally combated with individual moral correctness (such as articulated in White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which argues that racism is combated by white people interrogating their souls rather than with policy). The only real political project is the struggle against the self; the only real political victory is the mastery of one's thoughts. The distinction between the effective political actor and the morally hygienic thinker is collapsed. You combat homophobia by being gay-affirming. You combat misogyny by respecting women.
        You combat all social ills by relentlessly fixating on your own position in society and feeling bad about it. Nothing political can escape the gravity of personal psychodrama and no solutions exist but cleansing the self.

        Emotionalist - “emotionalist” rather than emotional, meaning not necessarily inappropriately emotional but concerned fundamentally with emotions as the currency of politics. In woke circles, political problems are regularly diagnosed as a matter of the wrong emotions being inspired in someone. Someone feeling “invalid” is no longer an irrelevant matter of personal psychology best left to a therapist but instead a political problem to be solved, and anyone who provoked that feeling is someone who has committed a political crime no matter what the context or pretext. Good political action makes people feel better. To the extent that material victories like feeding the hungry are celebrated, they are celebrated because they inspire good feelings rather than solve corporeal problems. The famous woke antipathy towards the concept of civil liberties and personal freedoms stems from the triumph of emotions; things like rights are no match for the claims of any individual of psychic distress. Economic, legal, and political inequality are all relevant only to the extent that they make people from minority identities sad. The fixation on emotions fits snugly in the assumption of the individual as the basic unit of politics. It also ensures that woke politics assume the possibility of a frictionless universe in which everyone feels good all the time.

        Fatalistic - woke politics tend towards extreme fatalism regarding solutions and the possibility of gradual positive political change. Institutions are all corrupt and bigoted, so institutions cannot prompt change. Most people are irredeemably racist, and so the masses cannot create a just society. Constructive police reform is inherently and irrevocably impossible, so the only response to police violence is police abolition, no matter that we can’t actually achieve police abolition. Everything and everyone is presumed to be unapologetically bigoted until proven otherwise. Problems can’t be solved gradually through small steps over time, but only through revolutionary change, which itself will inevitably be blocked by the white-cis-male power structure. Everything sucks all the time, which incidentally justifies yelling all the time for people who enjoy yelling. The purpose of politics is not to sacrifice in the pursuit of change but to occupy the position of eternal Cassandra, someone who identifies the evil but never stops it.

        Insistent that all political questions are easy - woke people speak and act as though there are no hard political questions and no such thing as a moral dilemma. Everything is obvious if you’ve only done the reading and done the work, which woke people assure you they did long ago. If you don’t know what the right thing to do or say is, it’s only because you aren’t really dedicated; if you think you’ve hit upon a real dilemma of conflicting but legitimate concerns, you’re simply lacking in education and wisdom. It’s funny, actually, that you don’t know the exact right thing to think, right now. I’m actually laughing. Possessed of belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed - what was assumed by Bertrand Russel to be obviously misguided is now assumed to be true without evaluation: virtue is not just common among the oppressed, virtue is a function of oppression. The correlation between virtue and oppression is one.

        So climate change counts as woke and global warming needs to be addressed
        Got it

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I stop sleeping

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      At this point, it's just a synonym for "bad", "stupid" or "something I dislike".

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're ideas deemed as progressive.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It honestly just seems like a buzzword for people that make dumb complaints. I can understand people saying "I don't want to play as a deaf girl in Spider-Man 2 because it's not a part of my superhero fantasy.", but I can't understand "Oh, ASL is in this game? That's liberal propaganda!"

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      the right wing phenomenon of idpol liberal capitalism that specifically distracts people from class consciousness

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      A form of new leftism that focuses of Adressing or solving precived systemic social inequality without Adressing or seeking any deep change any of the class and labor related issues that were primarily the old left's focus, thus resulting in surface level solution at best and making the situation worse at worst. An example I always go to is while the old left fought to abolish slavery, the version of the new left that focuses on being woke would just seek to make sure there was an equal number of black and women slave owners in society

      the right wing phenomenon of idpol liberal capitalism that specifically distracts people from class consciousness

      Very interesting take, you get that from WHAT IS POLITICS by any chance?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's not leftist, that's idpol liberalism. identity politics divides the working class along lines of alienated labor

        the function of racism/caste is to put other ethnicities in to a lower economic class

        the function of misogyny/sexism/homophobia is to put those people in a lower economic class

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the function of misogyny/sexism/homophobia is to put those people in a lower economic class
          I thought it was creation of class through dominance hierarchical social systems that resulted in the creation of misogyny, racism, sexism...etc not the other way around.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, those social systems have no purpose other than class divisions and alienation. you can't make people poor for being different without manufacturing a society that plays on tribalism first

            you literally cannot get rid of alienation without getting rid of class. there will never be a capitalism where people are treated equally. it will never happen because capitalism requires bigotry

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        P.S. i have no idea what "WHAT IS POLITICS" is if it's anything at all if you're referring to it as a noun

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      anything done to emasculate or dehumanize/other white people, white men specifically

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like SJW it was a phrase leftoids originally invented and donned proudly but now act as if it's some nebulous buzzword with no solid definition once rightoids starting making fun of it.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Extra stupid gunk?

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Careful Anon the show might have the comic get a revival.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, do minorities just live rent free in your head?
    Boy, you got to monetize that shit.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you call them minorities when they make up the majority of the planet?

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I actually like some the changes they did in the show in terms of pacing

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It could have used some more blood and impact

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm more pissed off that amber is not a good looking black girl. I mean I get looking plain and not hot fits her character more but can they atleast change that awful hair? She looks like a windmill

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m so sorry this thing ever got a show and became popular because of it.

    I hate you all so very much

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What woke politics are in the show?

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The comic actively mocked trends and political correctness bullshit, the show has to pander to it.

    I honestly don’t think kirkman believes any of the shit he says, he’s a businessman most of all and thinks (and is quite possible right) that he needs to do this to make money. At the very least I’m certain his spiel about how he wishes he made invincible non white in the comic and he fixed that with the show is a crock of shit.

    It is funny seeing him trying to reconcile early 2000’s sensibilities in plots that were not controversial at all but are now seen as “problematic”

    Like immortal and Duplikates romance. Nobody cared in the comic. Nowadays it’s seen as problematic because she’s 18 and he’s old enough to be a caveman.

    The show tries to explain how this is ok because Kate’s clones ages all added together make her the same age as immortal... what? Oh, and they totally bonded over dying a lot.... entirely off screen of course. And she never seemed bothered by her clones dying before, or will be shown bothered by it later... but it’s totally horrific guys!

    Rex calls immortal a hypocrite and nobody even bothers responding because it’s true. The worst part is he was made leader because he’s the most experienced and wise. Yet he immediately started banging his subordinate, the person he’s supposed to be in charge of and order around on dangerous missions. People SHOULD be pissed about this.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Like immortal and Duplikates romance. Nobody cared in the comic. Nowadays it’s seen as problematic
      By who? The only character in the show bothered by it is Rex, who thought he was gonna get regular Azn pussy.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >by who?

        The comments calling him a groomer on reddit and YouTube

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh sorry, I don't hang out on Reddit or listen to Youtube opinion-makers. Sorry that you do.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why ask if you don’t care. Most of the viewers who post online hang out on those platforms.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              I only mentioned that none of the Invincible characters feel strongly about it, you seem to not feel offended by it, but you listen to Youtubers who are literally compensated for rustling jimmies, and get yours rustled apparently.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >none of the invincible characters feel strongly about it

                Because the writers chose to not have it be addressed. It’s called lack of consistency

                Same way Eve and William somehow thought Amber was in the right last season because that’s what the writers thought

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mark doesn't owe Amber his identity, but he's also not owed understanding if he is always flaking on his girlfriend. There's nothing wrong with that sentiment and that's what his two friends get on him about.

                The problem is that Amber knows and is guilt tripping him about something that otherwise shouldn't be an issue.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      > I honestly don’t think kirkman believes any of the shit he says,
      I certainly hope not since I think he said that omni man would beat Superman.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it depends on the Superman/Writer?
        We've seen animated Superman get wrecked by some lightning, Omniman shrugs off orbital death rays.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Look at how much the man bleeds all over the place. Supes gets stunned by lightning in the show but it was never even remotely a threat to his life. It’s just a minor annoyance. Omniman wouldn’t be able to penetrate Supes skin unless there’s some kind of ass pull that makes him vulnerable somehow.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but it was never even remotely a threat to his life.
            The Kryptonian clone of Supergirl gets killed outright by electricity? Superman ends up writhing on the ground paralyzed by it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So because Superman is typically written in shows/films that can't really show blood, he's stronger?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              He’s typically depicted as being completely invulnerable to things that make nolan bleed all over the place, having endless stamina, able to move fast enough to compete with the flash, pulling off strength feats that Viltrumites don’t even come close to. He’s literally depicted as holding back 99% of the time. The one time he supposedly died, he came back. He defeated an enemy that Viltrumites really have no way of defeating. He has far more powers to call upon. He’s confirmed to be super intelligent. The man pretty much has no limits and can do anything once he decides that he doesn’t give a frick anymore.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He defeated an enemy that Viltrumites really have no way of defeating.
                Who Doomday? Throw that moron into the Sun, he has no ability to escape that sort of gravity well, unless he can toon-evolve flight for no raisin.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                That’s easy to say but doomsday would beat a viltrumite into a red paste if they tried.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nolan bulldozes through (in no particular order) Fleischer, DCAU, DCEU, Red Son, Injustice (games, comics AND movie), All-Star, DCAMU CW, and arguably Reeve.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably some more too. New 52 Superman can beat Nolan, but there's a lot of Supermans that just.. would lose to Nolan.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                nu52 is the most powerful Superman has been in half a century, he makes overcharged All-Star look like a pussy.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't had the chance to read nu52 (didn't have time). Is it as good as Morrisons run? I'll read it if it's good.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is not very good.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been keeping up with random Image comics, but a lot if it looks bad for mains.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                nu52 is the most powerful Superman has been in half a century, he makes overcharged All-Star look like a pussy.

                Kingdom Come is another comic Superman that would win.
                But I still love this fanart cause silver fox.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He’s typically depicted as being completely invulnerable to things that make nolan bleed all over the place,
                We've seen nolan survive explosions without a scratch, when something make him bleed it's normally a similarly superpowerful beings. Namely other viltrumites, basically a "if you punch yourself and it hurts, does that makes you weak or strong?" conundrum.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                For the sake of children's entertainment, Kryptonians are generally unable to even give each other bruises, even though that is moronic.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Superman eats nukes for breakfast. There’s nothing that Viltrumites have done, feat-wise, that says that any of them hit anywhere near as hard as a kryptonian could, yet Supes guts don’t spill out when he gets punched by someone that hits as hard as he does.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Superman eats nukes for breakfast

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh shit and he survived and recuperated from that at the end of that clip, son. Let something like that happen to nolan and he’d either die or be out of commission for weeks.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                That Superman would lose to Omni Man.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are of course outdated bullshit versions of Superman who can tow off an entire solar system or punch black holes out of existence, but that's just toonery that isn't used for modern comics, let alone animated shows.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                for a grounded hero who can we turn to?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on the Superman/Writer. In Dark Knight Returns a nuke nearly killed him. Animated Superman would be hard pressed to survive one.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                In the show that one universe said they had to use "experimental quantum bombs" to take down nolan implying nukes wouldn't have cut it.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Or maybe he can dodge nuclear bombs, he is faster than all human missiles.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                We don’t know those experimental quantum bombs do. In the show, Nolan was able to be bruised by red rush and he dodges attacks all over the place. Supes would take most of that on the jaw without a scratch. Supes biggest fault is that he just sits there and lets himself get shot without considering that it could be a kryptonite weapon or something that can harm him because he’s so used to n]being invulnerable.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Supes would take most of that on the jaw without a scratch
                Superman got his ass rocked by AQUAMAN and fairly recently. Flash has wrecked multiple guys with Kryptonian-tier physical powers in comics.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Aqua man would wreck most of the supers in invincible. That universe is like a tier or two above the boys.

                Aquaman has some impressive feats of his own. Also red rush ain’t no flash. If flash were punching Nolan with everything he had like red rush was trying to do, then Nolan would have gotten more than bruises and wouldn’t have been able to kill flash like he did red rush in the show.

                >Uh huh. Ok. Most powerful version of Superman vs
                The most powerful version of Superman beats God, his bullshit is infinite. Silver Age lulzery even trumps Anime.

                That’s the entire point.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That universe is like a tier or two above the boys.
                Sooo.. Like Invincible?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m pretty sure he know Nolan can’t beat Superman

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but it really does depend on the Superman. Most animated show Supermen would get beat by him. Comics Supermen are completely inconsistent and all over the place in power level. Nu52 got wrecked by Cheetah once.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nolan (comic and animated) easily destroys the Supermen listed here. -- >

          Nolan bulldozes through (in no particular order) Fleischer, DCAU, DCEU, Red Son, Injustice (games, comics AND movie), All-Star, DCAMU CW, and arguably Reeve.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s what I was saying.

          That Superman would lose to Omni Man.

          Uh huh. Ok. Most powerful version of Superman vs most powerful official version of nolan. Who wins?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nolan if we're scaling him to his fight with Supreme.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Uh huh. Ok. Most powerful version of Superman vs
            The most powerful version of Superman beats God, his bullshit is infinite. Silver Age lulzery even trumps Anime.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Still nothing compared to CC Pan

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                How many times are autists going to rehash Superman kicking Goku's ass? I think Deathbattle is on a 6th rematch. Silver Age Supes > All. I don't think you could even reliably reality warp him out of existence.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole “we bonded cause we’ve experienced death” is such a crock of shit. Trauma bonding creates the worst relationships.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing to suggest either are suffering trauma from it. Kate continues to unreluctantly feed her duplicates into massacres. They are just intimately familiar with death in ways normal people aren't and are at peace with it.
        The others are either frightened of it or believe they are immune to it.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Invincible comic had many complaints and that's what it was partly about.
    Random changes to make the comic PC are a detriment to everyone.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't it end with Mark's rapist getting away with it because she got redeemed by a black guy? Anyway the real reason why the comic looks better the show is mainly because of Ryan Ottley's art and one of the most underappreciated elements of the series is how great the flow of the paneling is, it's super smooth and pleasing to read despite usually fitting so much plot and dialogue into a single 24 page issue.

    The show uses Corey Walker's art style (which was always a clear downgrade from Ottley's) animated by a studio that Skybound scraped together just to produce the show so it looks cheap as frick despite having a $10 million budgey per episode.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >getting away with it
      she gets gored and dies and never entirely patches things up with Mark before that, despite being allies. She doesn't regret it because of Marky, when you have people forgiving Omni Man's mistake of killing thousands of people, forgiving high impact sexual violence isn't unthinkable
      Also, frick Oliver, I can't stand that c**t. Even down to how he's drawn.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shazam could defeat omni-man and invincible. (Verification not required)

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >esg/woke

    schizo boogeyman

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've noticed the only people who seem to hate the show are either culture warriors or insecure weebs

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    An entire thread about woke or not woke and nobody is pointing out this TV show just has absolutely garbage writing. I'm coming here because I got bored during a minute long montage scene of Omni man flying around growing a beard and posing in space while sad music is playing. Why the frick is this even in here? Who made the decision to do a minute long Omni man sad song montage? This is so mind numbingly boring. And then just random mom alcohol scenes and Mark whining about life scenes and his weird gay roommate being weird. This whole thing feels like it was written by a room full of clinically depressed therapy addicts who think "character development" means b***hing about life 24/7. The comic series is fun. The tv show went from fun to this weird constant moping. Just fire the writers and send them all to Hot Topic where they belong.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >An entire thread about woke or not woke and nobody is pointing out this TV show just has absolutely garbage writing
      Well the thread opened with woke.
      RE: the writing:
      They need to have ONE mope scene every couple episodes to a season, not multiple times in one. And the music choice sucks every time.
      Using swears does not constitute mature dialogue, and everyone is way angrier than in the comic
      The dialogue itself feel like generic archetype dialogue for a lot of characters (good guy, bad guy, etc.) Some deliberately specific comic text was made generic for the show, and I'll never understand why.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I got bored during a minute long montage scene of Omni man flying around growing a beard and posing in space while sad music is playing. Why the frick is this even in here?
      Sounds like autism. Why are we seeing the emotional turmoil of someone whose entire beliefs are now compromised? I swear this place is so fricking dumb, you make Normalgays look smart.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        No you fricking moron, why am I being show these emotions through the shittiest possible writing device of a guy looking sad with a sad song playing? Why are they not writing scenes that show this instead of just playing this stupid song? Now I'm watching another minute long montage with his Earth wife looking sad during a sad song. Why is this the vehicle for showing me this instead of a scene about something actually happening which then reveals their emotion? Instead I'm watching either shitty sad song montages or shitty exposition about being sad. And it is effectively the only emotion anyone is showing for 95% of this season. The whole show is turned into this awful one note garbage.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The woke shit isn’t the problem dumb frick, it’s the terrible pacing and stretching out largely inconsequential characters to resemble a live action drama and the direction and animation are extremely lazy.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why was it that Nolan was still carrying out the Viltrumite mission after Mark's powers emerged but all the other Viltrumites got earth pilled the moment they had kids? How was he not as susceptible as the rest of his species?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nolan is obviously going through the motions.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Writing to a degree and pacing much easier to world build and flush out then trying to cram 30 books in 8 episodes

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also doesn't help these have these weird subplots that didn't exist in the comic like Eve questioning her le lifesaving mission this shit is going to get worse if they make Eve and Mark get thogther at the end of the season like they did after he fights Cecil who is moronic in the comics

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anon eloquently explains wokism, particularly how it relies on emotion
    >Shitlibs and twitter trannies have mental breakdowns over how "mad" the explanation sounds
    Lol

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's still mad

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the main problem is the "game of thrones" style storytelling they're trying where they jump around to 50 different plot lines each episode. The show is called INVINCIBLE it should be focused on Mark 80-90% of the time. There's an occasional issue that isn't focused on Mark in the comics but they're the exception.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    aw, sweet! a glavset thread.

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There are non White characters I'm going insaneeeeeee

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I disagree

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's because the pacing sucks. They dedicated an entire episode to side character mellow drama

    I don't know why they think I'd give a shit about Allen the alien or random side characters doing nothing

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted more hot female viltrumites to be shown.

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its great.

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

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