Tony is cool, really cool actually, the problem is that we're only talking about the general concept of Iron Man.
2 itt are thinking about the comics, 1 is thinking about Armored Adventures and the other guy might be thinking about the MCU.
Unlike FF, Spiderman, Thor or Captain America ; Lee's run was crap with crap villains
It was saved thank to the Goodwin run which was fun and introduced Madame Masque(frick you Bendis).
After Archie, the Hero spent the time with a schizo stories, sometimes a women appeared then dissapear, sometimes Pepper and Tony are friends, other they could ve more , and there are issues where Happy is a wifebeater.
Then Mantlo thankfully came to fix this and made the comic readable, and then we have a good era with Michelines/Layton, Oneil and Kaminski, but that crap Avengers story and Marvel Reborn happened, ruining the character until Busiek saved him.
After than , Grell, Knauf and Fraction did something decent with some bad issues but Marvel was ruining him again(Happy died, Civil Wars, Kimiko died ,...).
MCU then was the last nail in the tomb, and Gillen/Bendis came to destroy the character.
The current run is not garbage but the author doesn't give a frick about Ironman but nuIronman and Xmen, like how the previous didn't like Ironman but Hellcat.
I think writers should read Oneil, goodwind and Busiek runs before writing the character
The problem I noticed with MCU characters is that no one talks about them ever since the movies were over.
Same with GOTG…movies were liked by casuals but there’s no impact and games flopped badly including Avengers.
I'm usually a massive Silver Age gay (having grown up reading the old b&w Essentials) but I seriously struggled to get through the first Iron Man omnibus when I got it last year. I don't know if it's just me, but early Iron Man is barely interesting. The writing is standard Stan Lee but curiously without any charm whatsoever, and (barring the handful of issues drawn by Ditko or Kirby) the art is largely uninspired. It only began to pick up right towards the end, where there's a cool two/three-part introduction for the Titanium Man and then Gene Colan comes onto pencils right after that wraps up. Took me months to read through it.
I don't think I'll get Vol 2 when it comes out later this year. Maybe down the line, if I find it on a good sale, but I'm not exactly waiting in anticipation.
Been thinking of a way to fix/add to his rogues gallery
What works better?
James Bond esque villains or pseudo medieval/"fantasy" stuff playing into Tony being a "knight"?
How do you like Tony and Peter's dynamic?
Should it be a student mentor thing where the Avenger takes the neighborhood hero under his wing, should they be aware and cautious of each other, should they hate each other, etc.
What would it be like if Tony was the teenager and Peter was in his prime?
How significant should something like the Iron-Spider be?
It should be older brother/younger brother not father/son.
Spidey isn't Robin, but he is a young man in need of guidance. Tony's made a lot of mistakes, but the thing he's really good at is problem solving. He sees that trait in Spider-Man and purposefully doesn't give him the grants, scholarship funds, etc. because he knows that Spider-Man is going to be better off doing it on his own. That's where the movies fricked up imo. It was Tony giving Spidey the answer instead of the lab in which to find the answer.
I dropped this book cause Cantwell sucked, but this Alex Ross design is a great retro synthesis. I wonder of they'll go back to it once the mysterium armor is no longer relevant after fall of X.
>I wonder of they'll go back to it once the mysterium armor is no longer relevant after fall of X.
maybe i think it's the armour Ribic is given stark in the alien vs avengers book(at least on the cover) and i don't think ribic is that slow
I dropped this book cause Cantwell sucked, but this Alex Ross design is a great retro synthesis. I wonder of they'll go back to it once the mysterium armor is no longer relevant after fall of X.
cover for reference
it could be that Ribic drew this years ago and the Ross armour was what was being used in continuity at the time but I don't think he is that slow when pencilling he did most Eternals without that many fill-ins
how long until we find out who replacing Duggan as the Iron Man writer?
I would guess the artist going to be Martin Cocolo since he was taken off Immortal Thor
I think the problem is that he is a mega corp character in a field that is dominated by mostly left leaning writers.
Ryan North is an unapolegetic Starkgay, while I am somewhat against fanboys taking on characters they love as a priority (i.e. Slott), I can't think of anyone better
the issue with that is he has already writing the Iron Man game that's coming out whenever so I would be slightly surprised if it's him.
he wouldn't be a bad pick, his Iron Man one-shot a couple of years ago was good.
the DarkHold Iron Man issue, it the best out of all those one-shots
it's a what-if where the Iron Man armour slowly dissolves tony skin, very immortal Hulk-like.
I think Tony should have kept his machine controlling powers from extremis (sometimes those pop up again like in Superior but it should be the standard)
Also Rhody should have kept the merging suit
>who did the Annual during Cantwell's run was also good.
Mackay?
he is probably a bit busy to take on another ongoing along with Avengers, X-men, Moon Knight, and Dr Strange
western iron man >dude makes a suit >by magic it can fly and shoot >puts himself in danger by using the suit
eastern iron man >smart dude makes a drone >instead of a 90% empty suit it's a full robot packed with stuff >creator can sit safe back home and remote control it
Is there any canon reason why Tony didn't got a dozen or so automated armors to solve minor problems or bait villains into trying to get him just to fall into a trap?
I know he simply really loves to pilot the suit for fun but I don't see why he can't use Doombot-like drones, you could say that would make him overpowered but to mass produce the armor he would need to make a far cheaper and weaker version than his personal one anyway.
there have been stories when this happened.
either the armors get controlled somehow or they become cannon fodder
the pilot makes the difference i guess.
>Is there any canon reason why Tony didn't got a dozen or so automated armors
Because it will become a villains.
I remember when Tony has a secret identity he used some robot to act like Tony so he could be at two place at the same time(like Superman with his robots ) but like 2 or 3 times It got superevil and tried to kill Tony.
They kinda ruined that excuse after the MCU made J.A.R.V.I.S and F.R.I.D.A.Y. mainstream.
Hell Age of Ultron entire climax was how Tony can make an AI people can fully trust after all then he gave it an extremely powerful body that is even more dangerous than his main armor.
>Is there any canon reason why Tony didn't got a dozen or so automated armors
Because it will become a villains.
I remember when Tony has a secret identity he used some robot to act like Tony so he could be at two place at the same time(like Superman with his robots ) but like 2 or 3 times It got superevil and tried to kill Tony.
was reading IM comics off the spinner rack in the distant stone age, you just do not know how weird it is to watch this character that was considered B-tier at best become the central character of the MCU.
Damn. Nobody else likes Iron Man?
He's cool but he was pretty polarizing ever since civil war and has problems like maintaining an actual rogues gallery worth a damn
Civil War basically killed comic Tony's likability.
Didn't they have to reboot his brain with his pre Civil War version
Tony is cool, really cool actually, the problem is that we're only talking about the general concept of Iron Man.
2 itt are thinking about the comics, 1 is thinking about Armored Adventures and the other guy might be thinking about the MCU.
Lucky 7s.
he's very writer dependent
I like Matt Fraction run
I think the problem is that he is a mega corp character in a field that is dominated by mostly left leaning writers.
Unlike FF, Spiderman, Thor or Captain America ; Lee's run was crap with crap villains
It was saved thank to the Goodwin run which was fun and introduced Madame Masque(frick you Bendis).
After Archie, the Hero spent the time with a schizo stories, sometimes a women appeared then dissapear, sometimes Pepper and Tony are friends, other they could ve more , and there are issues where Happy is a wifebeater.
Then Mantlo thankfully came to fix this and made the comic readable, and then we have a good era with Michelines/Layton, Oneil and Kaminski, but that crap Avengers story and Marvel Reborn happened, ruining the character until Busiek saved him.
After than , Grell, Knauf and Fraction did something decent with some bad issues but Marvel was ruining him again(Happy died, Civil Wars, Kimiko died ,...).
MCU then was the last nail in the tomb, and Gillen/Bendis came to destroy the character.
The current run is not garbage but the author doesn't give a frick about Ironman but nuIronman and Xmen, like how the previous didn't like Ironman but Hellcat.
I think writers should read Oneil, goodwind and Busiek runs before writing the character
People like Robert Downey Jr, not Iron Man
He's
a man
on a mission
>I
>AM
>IRON
>MAN
The problem I noticed with MCU characters is that no one talks about them ever since the movies were over.
Same with GOTG…movies were liked by casuals but there’s no impact and games flopped badly including Avengers.
I mean I'll talk about Iron Man, Cap, GOTG, etc all day. Its just most threads on here are bait and have no merit in posting in.
You yes, but not most. And I’m not talking about just here, everywhere from social media to real life.
>Its just most threads on here are bait and have no merit in posting in.
Painfully true
>I was born in 2009
2000.
Been thinking of picking up the Silver Age omnibuses, now that they're reprinting them.
How much
I'm usually a massive Silver Age gay (having grown up reading the old b&w Essentials) but I seriously struggled to get through the first Iron Man omnibus when I got it last year. I don't know if it's just me, but early Iron Man is barely interesting. The writing is standard Stan Lee but curiously without any charm whatsoever, and (barring the handful of issues drawn by Ditko or Kirby) the art is largely uninspired. It only began to pick up right towards the end, where there's a cool two/three-part introduction for the Titanium Man and then Gene Colan comes onto pencils right after that wraps up. Took me months to read through it.
I don't think I'll get Vol 2 when it comes out later this year. Maybe down the line, if I find it on a good sale, but I'm not exactly waiting in anticipation.
grab the epics.
They really need to finish the Denny O'Neill run in Epics.pmjn
Been thinking of a way to fix/add to his rogues gallery
What works better?
James Bond esque villains or pseudo medieval/"fantasy" stuff playing into Tony being a "knight"?
Why not both
Indeed
Crimson Dynamo
Titanium Man
Cobalt Man
Blizzard
Whiplash
Living Laser
Spymaster
Unicorn
Ghost
Edwin Cord
Justin Hammer
Mandarin!
I know it's simple, but I honestly just like him going up against other guys in power armour
I agree. Power Armor vs Power Armor is kino.
No they should've kept coming up with more and increasingly offensive racist stereotypes for him to fight, ending with [The Greedy Merchant] himself!
It's unfortunate there's so little characters having both logical and emotional intelligence.
It's a powerful combo when done right.
My dream is to bring back Tony’s Howard Hughes gritty industrialist mixed with James Bond corporate sexspionage, that’s my ideal Iron Man
How do you like Tony and Peter's dynamic?
Should it be a student mentor thing where the Avenger takes the neighborhood hero under his wing, should they be aware and cautious of each other, should they hate each other, etc.
What would it be like if Tony was the teenager and Peter was in his prime?
How significant should something like the Iron-Spider be?
>How do you like Tony and Peter's dynamic?
A good friend of mine hated it in the MCU because of what happened between the two during the Civil War.
The MCU one or the comic one?
He hated how Peter basically became Ironlad because he of how Tony got Aunt May killed in the comics.
I guess that makes sense, but that's also a different continuity altogether.
Yeah that's what I said but I guess sometimes shit carries over for some people.
It should be older brother/younger brother not father/son.
Spidey isn't Robin, but he is a young man in need of guidance. Tony's made a lot of mistakes, but the thing he's really good at is problem solving. He sees that trait in Spider-Man and purposefully doesn't give him the grants, scholarship funds, etc. because he knows that Spider-Man is going to be better off doing it on his own. That's where the movies fricked up imo. It was Tony giving Spidey the answer instead of the lab in which to find the answer.
For me? It's Hawkeye
truly?
I just think he's neat!
Is it the purple costume
I do quite like his costume (it's the cool purple, not gay kind)
gunmetal/chrome >>> red
I dropped this book cause Cantwell sucked, but this Alex Ross design is a great retro synthesis. I wonder of they'll go back to it once the mysterium armor is no longer relevant after fall of X.
>I wonder of they'll go back to it once the mysterium armor is no longer relevant after fall of X.
maybe i think it's the armour Ribic is given stark in the alien vs avengers book(at least on the cover) and i don't think ribic is that slow
cover for reference
it could be that Ribic drew this years ago and the Ross armour was what was being used in continuity at the time but I don't think he is that slow when pencilling he did most Eternals without that many fill-ins
how long until we find out who replacing Duggan as the Iron Man writer?
I would guess the artist going to be Martin Cocolo since he was taken off Immortal Thor
Ryan North is an unapolegetic Starkgay, while I am somewhat against fanboys taking on characters they love as a priority (i.e. Slott), I can't think of anyone better
the issue with that is he has already writing the Iron Man game that's coming out whenever so I would be slightly surprised if it's him.
he wouldn't be a bad pick, his Iron Man one-shot a couple of years ago was good.
>Fanboy write a entire game about his fav character
I hope he had a blast.
Which one-shot are you talking about?
the DarkHold Iron Man issue, it the best out of all those one-shots
it's a what-if where the Iron Man armour slowly dissolves tony skin, very immortal Hulk-like.
Nice to see they are back doing cross-overs with the Fox characters.
I liked Predator vs Wolverine
I actually dislike the classic armor (and by extension, Ross' design). Mostly because of the muscular look.
I prefer Dikto's smooth design
He's not even my favourite West Coast Avenger.
He's had some good designs but I don't really like the red and gold he always defaults back to.
It's completely plebian of me but I like the War Machine suit more.
I think Tony should have kept his machine controlling powers from extremis (sometimes those pop up again like in Superior but it should be the standard)
Also Rhody should have kept the merging suit
He's my favorite Avenger too. A shame he hasn't been written properly since the mid 00s.
Gillen run and Fraction run are good and in sometimes great.
when will you update it so Duggan is on this list?
I didn't made those, I stole/copy them from Cinemaphile archive.
but it will be cool some anon made those fro Hulk writers, daredevil writers, etc....
Mantlo was the one who got Marvel to pay for his law school tuition then turned around and sued them, right?
Me too.
We should have gotten Priest to write Iron Man. Also the guy who did the Annual during Cantwell's run was also good.
>who did the Annual during Cantwell's run was also good.
Mackay?
he is probably a bit busy to take on another ongoing along with Avengers, X-men, Moon Knight, and Dr Strange
Priest on Iron Man could actually be pretty cool
western iron man
>dude makes a suit
>by magic it can fly and shoot
>puts himself in danger by using the suit
eastern iron man
>smart dude makes a drone
>instead of a 90% empty suit it's a full robot packed with stuff
>creator can sit safe back home and remote control it
Eastern iron man makes more sense. Which is why I'll go west
Is there any canon reason why Tony didn't got a dozen or so automated armors to solve minor problems or bait villains into trying to get him just to fall into a trap?
I know he simply really loves to pilot the suit for fun but I don't see why he can't use Doombot-like drones, you could say that would make him overpowered but to mass produce the armor he would need to make a far cheaper and weaker version than his personal one anyway.
there have been stories when this happened.
either the armors get controlled somehow or they become cannon fodder
the pilot makes the difference i guess.
They kinda ruined that excuse after the MCU made J.A.R.V.I.S and F.R.I.D.A.Y. mainstream.
Hell Age of Ultron entire climax was how Tony can make an AI people can fully trust after all then he gave it an extremely powerful body that is even more dangerous than his main armor.
>Is there any canon reason why Tony didn't got a dozen or so automated armors
Because it will become a villains.
I remember when Tony has a secret identity he used some robot to act like Tony so he could be at two place at the same time(like Superman with his robots ) but like 2 or 3 times It got superevil and tried to kill Tony.
>Didn’t watch most MCU movies.
>Didn’t even watch infinity war.
>Randomly decided to see Endgame
>Still cried at Tony’s death
What went right?
was reading IM comics off the spinner rack in the distant stone age, you just do not know how weird it is to watch this character that was considered B-tier at best become the central character of the MCU.