It'll be a decade since S1 when it drops in 2025, so many of the actors will look old for the role (and we won't get Bernard Hill as Norfolk), but I'm just grateful it's being made, and by the same creative team as in S1
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I just checked and Debbie Wiseman, the composer for S1, is back for S2. Hope she delivers, her work in S1 was one of the best things about it
>I am le smar-ACK!
Lol who made these? There must be a collection somewhere
i'm sure there are many people that made one
>when it drops in 2025
its not coming this year???
Nah, they started filming in November last year and finished only last month
post-production for something like this shouldn't take too long though? I'dve thought S2 would be out late this year November/December time
Nogs and Arabs in the new cast list. It's over.
https://www.whattowatch.com/watching-guides/the-mirror-and-the-light-plot-cast-and-all-we-know-about-the-wolf-hall-sequel
Mind highlighting which of the cast members are actually black/arab? S1 felt like the team cares about historical accuracy and authenticity, I'm having a hard time imagining them shoehorning in POC in S2, even with the cucked state of the BBC
FRICK
The arab might pass as a swarthy Atkinsonian Brit, but why, WHY would they hire a BLACK for a member of the Seymour family
Is what it is. Can't say I'm the biggest fan of this change either, but we'll always have season 1, and I guess we couldn't expect S2 to get off without any concessions to current trends, given just how much time has passed since 2015. It'll be pretty much a different entity, but there's nothing we can really do about that, so will have to just enjoy it for what it is. I don't know what Hilary Mantel might have made of it if she were still alive to be asked, though.
Mantel, who died in 2022, argued in favor of diverse casting, despite it diverging from the characters she had in her mind at the time of writing her books. “It’s difficult for me, because to me they’re not characters, they’re people, and I have a very strong sense of them physically,” she said in 2021. “But as soon as you move to stage or the screen, that must yield because you’re in the realm of representation. I think we have to take on board the new thinking.”
That sounds to me less "arguing in favour" and more
>Frick no, hate that shit, would never do it myself, but can't do anything about it, BBC will have it due,
just cryptically said
agreed, think she was too canny to just outright say what she thought about this, and hearing some of what she said about gender, i'm inclined to think she would have been on the right side of history on this one
>that must yield because you’re in the realm of representation
Yeah, but how about representing actual historical reality?
RING THE BELLS
The thing is they could easily have a few ESG characters while maintaining historical accuracy if they wanted to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Blanke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Sommers
But nope everytime they do it its to blackwash and replace
this is so insane
season 1 tried so hard to remain accurate with clothing, sets, and then the go and pull shit like this
guess things really went insane after 2016
The link has the new cast and who they're playing. Here's two:
>Cecilia Appiah (Hijack, The Chelsea Detective) as Nan Seymour
>Amir El-Masry (Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker) as Thomas Wyatt
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/03/bbcs-wolf-hall-returns-diverse-cast-new-series/
Moors existed back then in europe
They're playing historically white characters like Thomas Wyatt and the Seymour family
Ya spain was all of europe. Fricking homosexual
Shut the frick up homosexual.
the last muslim area of spain was no more before Henry VIII became King. Before the 16th century really. Regardless of this casting its weird that some characters have been recast entirely. Tom Holland/Mark Gatiss dont come back at all. Duke of Norfolk has been recast, I guess Hill had been in a long sickness. Seriously that' ll be the toughest pill knowing he wont be back.
I am hype. the book is really good. if its like the book it's going to feel like its about Jane and Anne 2 as much as Cromwell though.
holy shit I had no idea this was coming back. time to rewatch season 1
>https://deadline.com/2024/04/wolf-hall-petronella-wyatt-casting-amir-el-masry-ancestor-1235880223/
lmao
Why are they like this?
>It think Ms. Wyatt’s reasoning is flawed. If we assume all Britain’s were Caucasian we are making a mistake. People of Shakespeare’s time were more diverse than we understand. Caucasian, Celtic and other tribes were often “swarthy”with dark skin, eyes and hair. Even if he was never east of Calais, does she know her ancestors colouring? Paintings were not often true. Remember the glass ceiling? People of other races have no chance of playing British people if we assume the British are “white.” South asians are Caucasian. I say stop being a racist, expand your mind and welcome diversity.
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>Tommaso, Thomas Moore is my friend, you shouldn't come here to bait him...
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Bumping because we get so few of these threads in here, and even if S2 turns out to be a piece of shit then I still think it would be nice if more people were to into S1, since it is / was a really good show.
>Bumping because we get so few of these threads in here
Good television is for losers, we need more off-topic /misc/- and YouTube-threads