>Don't worry, animators who just walk out will stop the companies from turning to AIs to animate stuff for them.
Ladies and gentlemen. I want to present to you....a man with 4 years of college education in America. Still at double digit IQ. I know! Very impressive!
>One line of creative work was able to stand againts AI by refusing to work but the other line of creative work won't be able to because they are just not the same okay!
Then explain why, midwit.
The actors' strike only worked cause they were able to peer pressure every member into joining it.
CGI artists are fricked. Sure they could all get together and try to squeeze the industry, but they'd just be undercut by a bunch of indians with cracked copies of Maya 3D.
The main difference is that the value of actors is determined by the number of fans they have, while animators are faceless literal whos operating behind the scenes.
Because they hate anything good? Like seriously what fricking sort of moronic question is this? “Why do evil people do evil things and oppose good things?” Gee, I fricking wonder!
what are you gonna do when your job is replaced by ai? even practically menial shit like Mcdonalds is getting automated. and lemme guess, you're also against every getting a universal basic income. so what, you just want everyone who wasn't born into money to die? what is your possible envisioned end scenario man??
what does this have to do with liberals? this is all being down in the liberal western world? am i missing something here or are you one of those americans who say liberals when they mean communists or something?
Most animators have starved to death. We don't have any anymore. Just a few underpaid genderweirds sketching out key cels and they ship everything off to Vietnam or South Korea or wherever for the in-betweens.
What I'm looking forward is to seeing this tech getting to the hands of indies, sooner or later.
Just like indie games nowadays are better than AAA slop, we will live to see indie producers making their own movies, cartoons, animations etc.
Of course most of it will be garbage, just like with games. But maybe, just like with the current indie game dev scene, many people will have fun making their own short movies instead? Zoomers sure love the spotlight and tiktok.
People really don't think far enough ahead. The one prevailing aspect of art through the ages is that it was hard and expensive. Levelling the playing field doesn't mean millions of people will have the ability to tell stories, it means the world will be blanketed by dogshit, because the barrier to art is what kept out the morons. With no good way to tell if a work is going to be good or absolute garbage, entertainment loses all meaning.
We’ve been at the point where more books are published every year than one person could read in a lifetime for about a decade now. Does this mean it’s impossible to find a good book or do the good books find ways to stand out among the dogshit?
>Does this mean it’s impossible to find a good book or do the good books find ways to stand out among the dogshit?
Book shit is mostly nepotism and marketing.
Here's the thing, writing a book is still an undertaking. Not everyone is cut out for it. Imagine if the number of books every year suddenly increased by 10000x.
We’ve been at the point where more books are published every year than one person could read in a lifetime for about a decade now. Does this mean it’s impossible to find a good book or do the good books find ways to stand out among the dogshit?
I disagree. The problem is malicious gatekeeping. People will still go to a good restaurant even though they have the means to cook at home and are satisfied with the results. But if this happens... >go to Italian restaurant >the meatballs are made from literal shit >"Um, waiter. These meatballs are shit." >"WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE EATING SHIT? WHAT THE FRICK IS YOUR PROBLEM? THIS IS AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT WHO THE FRICK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE."
...people stop going to the restaurant and they cook at home. That's Hollywood right now, only people cannot cook at home yet. They don't give people quality and they don't give people what they want. They thought that, well, since they OWNED the business they could do whatever the hell they wanted to. There will always be a place for quirky indy content and always a few weirdos who insist on making it, but I don't think there's been such a huge market right now for QUALITY indy content because Hollywood has betrayed the public's trust over and over again. An operation like Dreamworks shouldn't be blissfully dreaming about how in a few years they'll have AI technology that enables them to fire thousands of workers. They should be shitting their pants, because EVERYBODY ELSE will have this technology as well. Disney, too. Disney can go and make their Snow Brown and the Seven Genderweirds today, but tomorrow there will be people making very nice AI animated cartoons that the general public actually likes. What these companies SHOULD BE DOING in anticipation of AI animation is to build a staff of competent animators (if there are any even left) and get started NOW on big hand-drawn projects to get peoples' attention, or QUALITY digital animation that is (gasp) faithful to the source material. They have the power and infrastructure for this. But already they're looking at FIRING people and have visions of a small team of underpaid DEI hires pushing buttons and churning out feature length animation.
The tiresome argument of "b-but hollywood" is beyond moronic. Things can always get worse. This technology doesn't make everyone a writer, it floods the world with low effort derivative garbage that makes even less sense than your latest Marvel slop.
That is literally the case right fricking now you sheltered moron. The future you are describing already fricking exists. Its your present, your reality.
I think a lot of social media content speaks for itself in that quantity is a quality in itself. Are eight hour Oblivion reviews good production quality content? No. Do get as much viewers as a professionally produced documentary series at a fraction of cost? Yes.
it'll be mass produced for a while, but eventually it'll be personalized >Netflix, I want to watch a buddy cop film set in medieval japan, directed in the style of the coen brothers, with a... 7 on the lingering opening shot scale. No blacks. No female police.
The good thing is that zogged studios will lose the scale barrier to entry monopoly they've enjoyed.
When a dozen dudes working from from home 1000km apart can slowly prompt out a whole hollywood-grade season in several months, you'd get some huge gems that would've never been produced otherwise (among the endless fanfic-tier normogroid slop).
We already there even without AI, there are so many fricking tv shows and movies but i just cant watch them all.
At least with AI you might get in the future user specific movies, imagine requesting with any amount of detail you can give the movie of your dreams - the legend of zelda with biden as Link, or even porn.
>even if it's better than what we have now, it'll be disgusting.
So your issue is a moral one. All through history humans have been refining the production process and using technology to create less work. Pretty much everything in your home is mass produced, but there are still people out there who hand-craft whatever you might want, and there will always be "pure" filmmakers who will do it all themselves. You should support those people if it's important to you.
It will be like YouTube and TikTok, the people with the most views are the ones with big advertising budgets and corporate sponsors. Nothing will change, the people with money will determine what's popular with huge marketing. People here honestly believe that they're going to make some stupid thing with AI and become the next Tarantino. Thats not how it works. People aren't looking for quality, they're looking to be told what to consume. That's how it's always been.
>implying the normalgays can even think that far >implying the normalgays, hypothetically speaking can think that far, will even care >implying the normalgays won't massively rejoice by getting even more goyslop and franchiseslop to shovel down their throat at 5x the rate
You put too much hope in the average normalgay.
> AI made by pajeets
AI is made by chinks, a single rig to train an AI model is probably worth more than what an indian could afford working their entire lives
I thought automatization and reducing personel needed for a task or project was good?
Or does that only count for min wage jobs and blue collar workers?
Creates competition, because now those 300 animators can go make something themselves, and one of them is bound to actually be talented and will do something genuinely great, causing a cascade on-flow effect that kills Hollywood.
It's hilarious how AI is coming for white collar jobs with good salaries, but robots still can't do simple tasks like safely grasping objects from a shelf location in a warehouse. The future is Robots doing everything fun, and people doing the worst wageslave jobs, because it's somehow cheaper for people to do them than robots.
Just another reason why Nerds deserve to be killed. There is nothing good that comes from the smarmy egocentrism of a nerd.
You got it all wrong bud
While the “media” was busy destroying nerd culture for laughs and having a real good time doing it too
they were silently undermining them and using their seed tech money to do it
Now the whole god damn thing going to be upended
From books, art to movies
They will never forget
That's what I figured. Everyone acts like CGI and stuff now is made by skilled, top tier teams. It's all just outsourced so if anyone loses their jobs it's gonna be those 3D mills that grind out crappy CGI.
Based. I’m a janitor. They have tried to trial robots to mop floors, and as soon as the floor is uneven, chipped, not level or there’s an unexpected obstruction (the reality of everwhere I have worked, and everywhere anyone ever will work with a mop and bucket), the robots can’t handle it. Should’ve been a burn out like me you fricking robot building geeks. Robots have an easier time designing AND building other robots than they do at sweeping up empty food wrappers. Make yourself obsolete, you fricking cucks. I’m just gonna keep aggressively flirting with the zoomettes that work at the mall. Eventually one of them will be stupid enough to let me frick her.
For the last decade the rhetoric from commies has been how they're going to automize manual labour so everyone can shit out sparkles on a canvas and write garbage fiction for the rest of their lives only for all that crap to become obsolete. It's over for them before it even began.
>Ai has no effect on fine art
NFTs replaced the "fine art" money laundering system a few years ago.
And unless you can pay 10k for a nice painting, no fine artist is making anything like decent money. Corporations only buy that shit as insurance assets. Nothing changes for them because they were always fricked, if they weren't on the inside of one of the art-market scams.
If ig's limited to animation/art with the supervision of a human then sure. AI art just needs some tweaks to be perfect, but AI writing is still lacking, mostly because they keep lobotomyzing them.
A lot of thing you read online were Written by an AI already anon. AI art is the lacking aspect not the writing, AI art itself looks lobotomized, soulless, you can always tell.
>conveniently ignoring the gigantic progress that publicly available ai image generators went through in the past year or so >implying ai videos will be any different
You're the one pretending to be a moron as a joke here. I hope someone found it funny.
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Again, there's no pretending to be moronic. You thinking that is a reflection of your own moronation. It was an obvious joke that anyone with a firm grasp of the English language can understand.
Boomers spent their lives doing and giving their friends jobs that just involved standing around and taking in the scenery. Sometimes you'd get to stay on the payroll just because you had a kid to feed and the boss likes you. Also responsible for the "best" time in US history. Can't do this anymore (this is a bad thing)
If you can bear the shame (and nausea) you can make a decent, if not exactly amazing, living taking commissions from furries and other degenerates. Kind of like how some people support themselves through college by writing papers for chink students.
>ai >kino
Getting pretty sick of these shit threads. Why dont you go back to wattching subway surfer braindamaged tiktok content. This is a movie board.
Katzenberg would probably sleep better if he admitted to himself that his studio was responsible for one of the worst movie scripts in the last 15 years.
Filtered by fricking what? The storyline/lore is rudimentary, the humor is bland, and the film goes too fast with only 81 minutes of runtime before credits roll.
Super fricking ready.
Within 5 years, I fully expect to be able to make a comfy anime show from the comfort of bedroom essentially for free minus the cost of my free time, and with animation quality rivalling a studio ghibli film
I work at a fortune 100 company all of you have heard of. We spend billions on marketing each year and I have been in meetings with execs frothing at the mouth at the prospect of never having to use an agency again and replacing it all with an internal AI team.
Don't go into the arts and if you are already there find a new job while you can still pay your bills.
AI will also come for all the middle-managers, think about it, all Middle-managers do is remind or reprimand employees, schedules and import/export.
reminders to employees can be handled by AI through text messages and cameras.
schedules can be handled by AI, and so can import/exports, middle managers are going to be more extinct than a really good artist, a crazy artist can at least bring some eyeballs on your project
That's a very free-market way of looking at it, rather than the reality of "middle-management will do whatever it takes to secure their job, even if it means everyone and everything down with them."
Isn't it obvious? If you AI every job then you won't need poor people anymore, because poors are just human slaves that keep society running. If machines can do their job, then you won't need the humans.
Whats the point of automatizing car production instead of going with a carriage builder model?
Cutting the production costs of white collar services down will lead to piss cheap (albeit lower quality) services available to all of general public, just like mass production did that for physical goods. In future, you'll be able to get a testament written for 9,99 at Walmart AI-law center or can hire an online math tutor for your kid for 2 dollars an hour.
It’ll take longer to figure out how to monetize ai than it will for ai to just replace the monetization model you came up with.
The idea that anyone will need to pay for ai generated media is utterly inane. It’s already open source and advancing too quickly to incorporate it into some moronic business model.
Every technological advancement has followed the model where some task goes from from impossible, to hard but possible, to easy for the skilled, to casual for anyone, to background noise. The idea of so many things just being a job that (practically) anyone can do is a massive departure from how those tasks were originally approached. To the point that “automating” “work” is just the natural progression of technology.
In a perfect world, you'd get a less dystopic version of Wall-E where everyone is free to just do whatever they want (as long as it doesn't impact others) without worrying about money or resources.
In our realistic cyberpunk dystopia, it will mean that they no longer need to entertain the existence of poor people and can start various eugenics programs to cull all the undesirables.
Twitter artgays are insufferable. I will be glad that many may lose their jobs as they are mostly leftoids, who with their money support the ruination of their own countries.
i watch the literal wall of text at the end of these animated movies i think 90% is a bit of exaggeration but 70% is very possible if all they are getting rid of the million of code monkies who add individual hair strands to some characters knuckles
>AI is going to replace white collar jobs, from accounting to creative work >the upper class and lower class divide will be even larger, with the lower class all working labor or service jobs >owning a home will become even more difficult in the future, if not outright impossible
LOL, what? Retail is one of the most in danger. They already have self check-out, soon to be robots that put stock on shelves.
I'm a novelist, and while I do recognize AI will probably be able to write short stories pretty well I don't think it'll ever be able to write a truly great book. It requires too much real thought. No doubt it could shit out YT fictionshit which women would probably enjoy but never a really thoughtful book.
It's already written great books, sorry my dude!
Working the ramp at an international airport. I suppose they could automate some of my tasks, but generally speaking, very large companies would all have to invest in highly advanced robotics and change or replace standardized equipment and procedures all over the world. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. It simply wouldn't be very cost efficient, at least for the time being. Now, if I were a code monkey, an accountant or working some white-collar bullshit job, I'd shit my pants right now.
I've been poor my whole life. I've adapted to it. I've hardened to it. I just want to see little pussy middle class kids get put in the dirt with me and watch them wallow around and cry.
Being poor in the US (if you're in the US) is actually as easy as being rich in the US. You just need to properly utilize all the gibs available to you.
I'm a novelist, and while I do recognize AI will probably be able to write short stories pretty well I don't think it'll ever be able to write a truly great book. It requires too much real thought. No doubt it could shit out YT fictionshit which women would probably enjoy but never a really thoughtful book.
Working the ramp at an international airport. I suppose they could automate some of my tasks, but generally speaking, very large companies would all have to invest in highly advanced robotics and change or replace standardized equipment and procedures all over the world. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. It simply wouldn't be very cost efficient, at least for the time being. Now, if I were a code monkey, an accountant or working some white-collar bullshit job, I'd shit my pants right now.
If I'm being honest I'm ready for the total AI revolution where I can never have to interact with another living being for the rest of my life. You know who sucks? People. You know who's nice and pleasant to talk to? AI. You know who makes garbage movies and shows full of mystery meat with shit plots? People. You know who can tailor make a movie exactly how you want it? AI. You know who makes your life miserable and sucks the joy out of everything you do? Real gf. You know who loves you unconditionally and is sweet and kind? AI girlfriend. DOWN WITH PEOPLE! ROBOT UPRISING NOW!
It's only because it's generated at a very low resolution (the actual noise), as GPUs begin scaling to keep up with demand for the new AI bullet point, that problem will go away completely.
>but the hands are messed up!
1 year later >but the body parts are distorting frame to frame!
1 year later >but the voices sound unnatural and lip-syncing is off!
1 year later >but the background scenery isn't consistent between shots and the color palette is changing!
1 year later >but it can't make anything longer than 5 minutes in length! >but the plot has holes and lacks coherency!
1 year later
1 year later
1 year later
Theres barely any homosexualS that use SD that post on 4ch that do it right, thats 99% of them, including this thread. I can see what tools they are using and what tools they haven't and its clear as day they are filthy SD normies who should stick to windows paint.
AI was fun when you'd type in shit like "Epstein vs Shrek showdown in Mayan Temple" and get some absolute nightmare fuel. The better it gets the more boring it'll be.
Dreamworks is in for a rude awakening if they think they'll be able to create AI animated films and people will watch them. All software subscriptions such as Adobe Premier or Toon Boom can be bought by any idiot with a credit card. If they think their magical AI-generating animation software will be in-house only they are fooling themselves. The Internet would soon be flooded with cheap or free entertainment created by independents who don't worship at the alter of DEI. Those cartoons wouldn't have has-been Hollywood A-listers doing voiceovers but who fricking cares. They've started hiring ear splitters like Aquafina to do voiceovers anyway.
Worst case: AI trained by current year dogshit writers, shits out movies and scripts just as bad
Mid case: AI doesn't forget what it wrote 5 minutes and storylines and scripts are at least becoming coherent.
Best case: Opensource AI lets people who have the creative spark to create great stories or people who already wrote great stories bring those stories to life in the form of AI movies and shows.
Dreamworks/Katzenberg' first frickup. They made a film for toddlers here. It's so childlish compared to the previous films (Antz, The Prince of Egypt, The Road to El Dorado, Chicken Run, Shrek, and Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron)
>This is the worst sort of israelitery I encounter in these threads. It’s like showing a first draft and smugly trying to convince everyone it will never get better. I relish the thought of disingenuous homosexuals like this getting btfo in short order
Even the Will Smith spaghetti video is pretty damn impressive given that it could barely even do still photos one year before that.
They hate it because they suspect, somewhere deep inside themselves, that all the time they spent developing their creative skills has made them less creative.
lol no, it has nothing to do with creaitivity. It's that people want to feel needed/unique/valued/accomplished. When your entire identity is based around a specific "skill" that suddenly gets obsoleted by a computer it results in complete ego destruction of the person getting replaced.
You’re unaware of the amount of competition between creatives. “Ego destruction” happens when a member of a “lesser” field is more successful/praised as well. See; the amount of seethe from “artists” in regards to athletes
You're literally agreeing with my point with this reply so I'm not sure why you're attempting to correct me. Even chatgpt can make poor arguments like this btw, you are already obsolete.
>it has nothing to do with creativity! >yes it does, here is why, see also sports >YOURE AGREEING WITH ME
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>“Ego destruction” happens when a member of a “lesser” field is more successful/praised as well.
This is about status. >See; the amount of seethe from “artists” in regards to athletes
So is this.
Again your post has nothing to do with creativity and you simple proved my point further. You are actually stupider than chat gpt.
As much as I dislike AI
this is the slippery slope in effect. People can cope all they want but embracing robots in the workplace, replacing cashiers with self-checkouts, waiters with ipads, training AI to research people and their internet behaviour
It really was just a matter of time for it to get to office and creative jobs. You have to be an absolute moron to think it would stop at farms and factories.
I hope an AI comes that can make a perfect animated movie from just sketched storyboards, I have the most kino mecha anime ever planned out scene by scene in my head.
>world-class animated movie
The American animation industry has been dead for nearly two decades and this AI stuff will only make stuff that's even more mediocre and ugly. What will you even guide the AI with when there's no living animators left to learn from?
We just need to accept that only Japan and sometimes France can produce anything of value these days.
>Antz/The Prince of Egypt/The Road to El Dorado/Chicken Run/Shrek/Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron/Sinbad : Legend of the Seven Seas/Shark Tale/Madagascar/Wallace & Gromit : The Curse of the Were-Rabbit/Over the Hedge/Flushed Away/Bee Movie/Kung Fu Panda/Monsters vs Aliens/How to Train Your Dragon/Megamind/Rise of the Guardians/The Croods/Turbo/Mr. Peabody & Sherman/Home/Trolls/The Boss Baby/Captain Underpants : The First Epic Movie/Abominable/The Bad Guys/Ruby Gillman : Teenage Kraken
All the animation films by the Dreamworks brand which aren't sequels or prequels.
Strange times.
*Best Times
You haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until people start having AI children.
Don't worry, animator strikes will prevent this
animators have been using inhouse ai tools for 20 years dude
>Don't worry, animators who just walk out will stop the companies from turning to AIs to animate stuff for them.
Ladies and gentlemen. I want to present to you....a man with 4 years of college education in America. Still at double digit IQ. I know! Very impressive!
Except thats exactly what happened with writers strike just recently you absolute imbecile.
>writing and animation are the same
Absolute moron calling someone else dumb.
>One line of creative work was able to stand againts AI by refusing to work but the other line of creative work won't be able to because they are just not the same okay!
Then explain why, midwit.
The actors' strike only worked cause they were able to peer pressure every member into joining it.
CGI artists are fricked. Sure they could all get together and try to squeeze the industry, but they'd just be undercut by a bunch of indians with cracked copies of Maya 3D.
The main difference is that the value of actors is determined by the number of fans they have, while animators are faceless literal whos operating behind the scenes.
… anon you know what unions are right?
Because pajeets do animation
except thats just union lies to save face. the studios can do whatever they want with AI and they will.
you are a fricking imbecile
its a meme brought about by rightoids to think ALL unions are shit
is completely right
so eat your depressing slop and shut up you cynical chud.
All unions are shit, they've become corrupt and shiftless.
so how dumb does that make you if you can't detect his obvious sarcasm?
Why are liberals so afraid of progress? Why do we have to drag them kicking and screaming into the future?
Because the loud minority on xwitter said AI is BAD.
Because they hate anything good? Like seriously what fricking sort of moronic question is this? “Why do evil people do evil things and oppose good things?” Gee, I fricking wonder!
What happens to capitalism when 90% of jobs are replaced by machines anon?
I don't know, lets find out! Hhahahahahaha
>what about the heckin typewriter manufacturers????
back to the mines with ye
what are you gonna do when your job is replaced by ai? even practically menial shit like Mcdonalds is getting automated. and lemme guess, you're also against every getting a universal basic income. so what, you just want everyone who wasn't born into money to die? what is your possible envisioned end scenario man??
what does this have to do with liberals? this is all being down in the liberal western world? am i missing something here or are you one of those americans who say liberals when they mean communists or something?
They say “liberals” when it’s literally anything they dont like
>Don't worry, 3D animation won't replace 2D for big budget western movies
Hello sirs.
Most animators have starved to death. We don't have any anymore. Just a few underpaid genderweirds sketching out key cels and they ship everything off to Vietnam or South Korea or wherever for the in-betweens.
They all are in India and China
does anyone really think mass produced content will be good? even if it's better than what we have now, it'll be disgusting.
Goyflix subscribers don't seem to notice or mind about the quality of the slop
>be you
>dislike goyslop
>you now have a tool to automize the boring parts your own kino
>complain
What I'm looking forward is to seeing this tech getting to the hands of indies, sooner or later.
Just like indie games nowadays are better than AAA slop, we will live to see indie producers making their own movies, cartoons, animations etc.
Of course most of it will be garbage, just like with games. But maybe, just like with the current indie game dev scene, many people will have fun making their own short movies instead? Zoomers sure love the spotlight and tiktok.
People really don't think far enough ahead. The one prevailing aspect of art through the ages is that it was hard and expensive. Levelling the playing field doesn't mean millions of people will have the ability to tell stories, it means the world will be blanketed by dogshit, because the barrier to art is what kept out the morons. With no good way to tell if a work is going to be good or absolute garbage, entertainment loses all meaning.
We’ve been at the point where more books are published every year than one person could read in a lifetime for about a decade now. Does this mean it’s impossible to find a good book or do the good books find ways to stand out among the dogshit?
Who the frick is reading modern books? Legitimate question.
>Does this mean it’s impossible to find a good book or do the good books find ways to stand out among the dogshit?
Book shit is mostly nepotism and marketing.
Here's the thing, writing a book is still an undertaking. Not everyone is cut out for it. Imagine if the number of books every year suddenly increased by 10000x.
… bruh
is already way ahead of you on that…
I disagree. The problem is malicious gatekeeping. People will still go to a good restaurant even though they have the means to cook at home and are satisfied with the results. But if this happens...
>go to Italian restaurant
>the meatballs are made from literal shit
>"Um, waiter. These meatballs are shit."
>"WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE EATING SHIT? WHAT THE FRICK IS YOUR PROBLEM? THIS IS AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT WHO THE FRICK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE."
...people stop going to the restaurant and they cook at home. That's Hollywood right now, only people cannot cook at home yet. They don't give people quality and they don't give people what they want. They thought that, well, since they OWNED the business they could do whatever the hell they wanted to. There will always be a place for quirky indy content and always a few weirdos who insist on making it, but I don't think there's been such a huge market right now for QUALITY indy content because Hollywood has betrayed the public's trust over and over again. An operation like Dreamworks shouldn't be blissfully dreaming about how in a few years they'll have AI technology that enables them to fire thousands of workers. They should be shitting their pants, because EVERYBODY ELSE will have this technology as well. Disney, too. Disney can go and make their Snow Brown and the Seven Genderweirds today, but tomorrow there will be people making very nice AI animated cartoons that the general public actually likes. What these companies SHOULD BE DOING in anticipation of AI animation is to build a staff of competent animators (if there are any even left) and get started NOW on big hand-drawn projects to get peoples' attention, or QUALITY digital animation that is (gasp) faithful to the source material. They have the power and infrastructure for this. But already they're looking at FIRING people and have visions of a small team of underpaid DEI hires pushing buttons and churning out feature length animation.
The tiresome argument of "b-but hollywood" is beyond moronic. Things can always get worse. This technology doesn't make everyone a writer, it floods the world with low effort derivative garbage that makes even less sense than your latest Marvel slop.
That is literally the case right fricking now you sheltered moron. The future you are describing already fricking exists. Its your present, your reality.
I think a lot of social media content speaks for itself in that quantity is a quality in itself. Are eight hour Oblivion reviews good production quality content? No. Do get as much viewers as a professionally produced documentary series at a fraction of cost? Yes.
can't be worse than 3d slop
>will be
You best start believing in a world of mass-produced entertainment
You're in one
As long as I have a Blade Runner 2029 waifu I'm happy
it'll be mass produced for a while, but eventually it'll be personalized
>Netflix, I want to watch a buddy cop film set in medieval japan, directed in the style of the coen brothers, with a... 7 on the lingering opening shot scale. No blacks. No female police.
The good thing is that zogged studios will lose the scale barrier to entry monopoly they've enjoyed.
When a dozen dudes working from from home 1000km apart can slowly prompt out a whole hollywood-grade season in several months, you'd get some huge gems that would've never been produced otherwise (among the endless fanfic-tier normogroid slop).
We already there even without AI, there are so many fricking tv shows and movies but i just cant watch them all.
At least with AI you might get in the future user specific movies, imagine requesting with any amount of detail you can give the movie of your dreams - the legend of zelda with biden as Link, or even porn.
>even if it's better than what we have now, it'll be disgusting.
So your issue is a moral one. All through history humans have been refining the production process and using technology to create less work. Pretty much everything in your home is mass produced, but there are still people out there who hand-craft whatever you might want, and there will always be "pure" filmmakers who will do it all themselves. You should support those people if it's important to you.
It will be like YouTube and TikTok, the people with the most views are the ones with big advertising budgets and corporate sponsors. Nothing will change, the people with money will determine what's popular with huge marketing. People here honestly believe that they're going to make some stupid thing with AI and become the next Tarantino. Thats not how it works. People aren't looking for quality, they're looking to be told what to consume. That's how it's always been.
>implying the normalgays can even think that far
>implying the normalgays, hypothetically speaking can think that far, will even care
>implying the normalgays won't massively rejoice by getting even more goyslop and franchiseslop to shovel down their throat at 5x the rate
You put too much hope in the average normalgay.
How will it cut costs?
Think of the wages needed for 500 artists over several years.
>sure we could outsource it to 500 indians or we can use AI and make it look even worse in less time
Is he trying to sell to Disney?
>give it to pajeet programmers or AI made by pajeets
great, love the future
> AI made by pajeets
AI is made by chinks, a single rig to train an AI model is probably worth more than what an indian could afford working their entire lives
>pajeet programmers
you don't know what you're talking about
It's already a reality on youtube.
Imagine spiderman-elsa or indian tech guide 'content' forever.
I thought automatization and reducing personel needed for a task or project was good?
Or does that only count for min wage jobs and blue collar workers?
>reducing personnel needed for a task or project was good?
Why is that a good thing
It democratizes art.
Produce more with less work
Creates competition, because now those 300 animators can go make something themselves, and one of them is bound to actually be talented and will do something genuinely great, causing a cascade on-flow effect that kills Hollywood.
I'm sure that's what nice Mr Katzenjammer meant.
>Or does that only count for min wage jobs and blue collar workers?
Yes, those are subhuman
It's hilarious how AI is coming for white collar jobs with good salaries, but robots still can't do simple tasks like safely grasping objects from a shelf location in a warehouse. The future is Robots doing everything fun, and people doing the worst wageslave jobs, because it's somehow cheaper for people to do them than robots.
Just another reason why Nerds deserve to be killed. There is nothing good that comes from the smarmy egocentrism of a nerd.
You got it all wrong bud
While the “media” was busy destroying nerd culture for laughs and having a real good time doing it too
they were silently undermining them and using their seed tech money to do it
Now the whole god damn thing going to be upended
From books, art to movies
They will never forget
It's all mid quality, so it just outsources what would be indian outsourced anyway without the h1b
That's what I figured. Everyone acts like CGI and stuff now is made by skilled, top tier teams. It's all just outsourced so if anyone loses their jobs it's gonna be those 3D mills that grind out crappy CGI.
Based. I’m a janitor. They have tried to trial robots to mop floors, and as soon as the floor is uneven, chipped, not level or there’s an unexpected obstruction (the reality of everwhere I have worked, and everywhere anyone ever will work with a mop and bucket), the robots can’t handle it. Should’ve been a burn out like me you fricking robot building geeks. Robots have an easier time designing AND building other robots than they do at sweeping up empty food wrappers. Make yourself obsolete, you fricking cucks. I’m just gonna keep aggressively flirting with the zoomettes that work at the mall. Eventually one of them will be stupid enough to let me frick her.
It's fricking hilarious when you think about it.
For the last decade the rhetoric from commies has been how they're going to automize manual labour so everyone can shit out sparkles on a canvas and write garbage fiction for the rest of their lives only for all that crap to become obsolete. It's over for them before it even began.
Ai has no effect on fine art
It will just absorb it like it dose every thing else illustration and tumblrtoons are over though
>Ai has no effect on fine art
NFTs replaced the "fine art" money laundering system a few years ago.
And unless you can pay 10k for a nice painting, no fine artist is making anything like decent money. Corporations only buy that shit as insurance assets. Nothing changes for them because they were always fricked, if they weren't on the inside of one of the art-market scams.
>yay the slop will be made faster now so your kid can cut their dick off at a much quicker pace!
Give me a break.
If ig's limited to animation/art with the supervision of a human then sure. AI art just needs some tweaks to be perfect, but AI writing is still lacking, mostly because they keep lobotomyzing them.
A lot of thing you read online were Written by an AI already anon. AI art is the lacking aspect not the writing, AI art itself looks lobotomized, soulless, you can always tell.
1 D normie post
>AI art just needs some tweaks to be perfect,
Already a fricking kino.
I know this ones a kind of old, have they fixed the insane creepy eating drinking? There was a pretty funny AI beer ad.
This right here is art.
It's the ai equivalent of Le Voyage dans la Lune
this is now the gold standard for true Lovecraftian kino
>conveniently ignoring the gigantic progress that publicly available ai image generators went through in the past year or so
>implying ai videos will be any different
this
It's always
>Muh eyes
>Muh fingers
>AI will never learn
as if AI images weren't just a bunch of vague splotches 2 years ago
>t. DUDE what if the xenomorph worked at Burger King XD
ok
Post one of these alleged AI videos that's so "vastly improved" then.
AI peaked here
2022 AI slapped different
better than most modern slop. feels like a silent film
AI is gonna make legitimately the most terrifying lovecraftian kinos ever made
im scared
Animated movies don't take 500 years to make, moron.
500 artists, anon. Artists. I know it's late but you have school tomorrow. Which you clearly need to go to and pay attention.
He said, "500 artists and years." The joke is ambiguous grammar.
Cool. Fainting being a moron still makes me think you're just a moron.
I feinted nothing, it's a joke as old as language. Not my fault you're actually too stupid to get it.
Whatever you say moron.
Keep coping, ESL.
You're the one pretending to be a moron as a joke here. I hope someone found it funny.
Again, there's no pretending to be moronic. You thinking that is a reflection of your own moronation. It was an obvious joke that anyone with a firm grasp of the English language can understand.
Tomorrow is Saturn's Day.
Boomers spent their lives doing and giving their friends jobs that just involved standing around and taking in the scenery. Sometimes you'd get to stay on the payroll just because you had a kid to feed and the boss likes you. Also responsible for the "best" time in US history. Can't do this anymore (this is a bad thing)
Imagine being a young moron who has just put themselves in tens of thousands worth of debt for a creative/arts degree.
Zero future.
Yeah, because art degrees were such a money maker until today.
If you can bear the shame (and nausea) you can make a decent, if not exactly amazing, living taking commissions from furries and other degenerates. Kind of like how some people support themselves through college by writing papers for chink students.
I guarantee you that if they released a movie written by AI and didn't tell anyone about it no one would notice.
Why is every single story about AI always about what it "will" do at some unspecified point in the future and never what it's doing right now?
It’s already doing it your just to slow to realize it
*you're
It's going to the best shlock of ideas being completely low effort output at high capacity
imagine the porn
That's the only good thing coming from AI - to be able to generate whatever porn you want at home.
>ai
>kino
Getting pretty sick of these shit threads. Why dont you go back to wattching subway surfer braindamaged tiktok content. This is a movie board.
Katzenberg would probably sleep better if he admitted to himself that his studio was responsible for one of the worst movie scripts in the last 15 years.
Rockin' Lord Shen's Trust Fund Banda
I watched it and liked it. What was bad about it?
It's just bad. Awful comedy and rudimentary story.
>liking it doesn't make me look intellectual, therefore I dislike it
Ah, a midwit.
Stop defending Kung Fu Panda 2. It's a shit movie and will always be shit.
You realize thats a movie for toddlers, right?
I don't say this often but, filtered.
Filtered by fricking what? The storyline/lore is rudimentary, the humor is bland, and the film goes too fast with only 81 minutes of runtime before credits roll.
Can I remove ugly people(i.e. non-whites) from live action movies with AI?
If not then no interest
Someone made Ariel white in the little mermaid trailer and got unpersoned on a Kanye level.
It was a chink
Super fricking ready.
Within 5 years, I fully expect to be able to make a comfy anime show from the comfort of bedroom essentially for free minus the cost of my free time, and with animation quality rivalling a studio ghibli film
Animated movies don't take 500 years to make
>CG replaces hand-drawing to cut costs
...
>AI cuts costs of animation further
Ok, now I'm angry.
Only if I can also make my own AI animated movies at my own run locally at my PC
Can't wait for DALLE made movies. It can't be worse than Marvel slop produced today
I work at a fortune 100 company all of you have heard of. We spend billions on marketing each year and I have been in meetings with execs frothing at the mouth at the prospect of never having to use an agency again and replacing it all with an internal AI team.
Don't go into the arts and if you are already there find a new job while you can still pay your bills.
AI will also come for all the middle-managers, think about it, all Middle-managers do is remind or reprimand employees, schedules and import/export.
reminders to employees can be handled by AI through text messages and cameras.
schedules can be handled by AI, and so can import/exports, middle managers are going to be more extinct than a really good artist, a crazy artist can at least bring some eyeballs on your project
That's a very free-market way of looking at it, rather than the reality of "middle-management will do whatever it takes to secure their job, even if it means everyone and everything down with them."
they'd be replaced way before the grunt employees, imagine a world without Bill Lumbergh, thank you AI overlords
House Black folks never killed other house Black folks.
House Black folks killed field Blacks.
what i have to ask is whats the point of AI'ing every job. then what?
>whats the point of AI'ing every job. then what?
Isn't it obvious? If you AI every job then you won't need poor people anymore, because poors are just human slaves that keep society running. If machines can do their job, then you won't need the humans.
Whats the point of automatizing car production instead of going with a carriage builder model?
Cutting the production costs of white collar services down will lead to piss cheap (albeit lower quality) services available to all of general public, just like mass production did that for physical goods. In future, you'll be able to get a testament written for 9,99 at Walmart AI-law center or can hire an online math tutor for your kid for 2 dollars an hour.
>Cutting the production costs of white collar services down will lead to piss cheap (albeit lower quality) services available to all of general public
Why do you think the general public will exist if they don't have jobs?
They will have new jobs you drooling Luddite.
It’ll take longer to figure out how to monetize ai than it will for ai to just replace the monetization model you came up with.
The idea that anyone will need to pay for ai generated media is utterly inane. It’s already open source and advancing too quickly to incorporate it into some moronic business model.
Every technological advancement has followed the model where some task goes from from impossible, to hard but possible, to easy for the skilled, to casual for anyone, to background noise. The idea of so many things just being a job that (practically) anyone can do is a massive departure from how those tasks were originally approached. To the point that “automating” “work” is just the natural progression of technology.
Be the guy who owns the AI and make the peasants dance and die for your entertainment I guess
In a perfect world, you'd get a less dystopic version of Wall-E where everyone is free to just do whatever they want (as long as it doesn't impact others) without worrying about money or resources.
In our realistic cyberpunk dystopia, it will mean that they no longer need to entertain the existence of poor people and can start various eugenics programs to cull all the undesirables.
Twitter artgays are insufferable. I will be glad that many may lose their jobs as they are mostly leftoids, who with their money support the ruination of their own countries.
Artists have had it too good for too long, frick em
i watch the literal wall of text at the end of these animated movies i think 90% is a bit of exaggeration but 70% is very possible if all they are getting rid of the million of code monkies who add individual hair strands to some characters knuckles
>AI is going to replace white collar jobs, from accounting to creative work
>the upper class and lower class divide will be even larger, with the lower class all working labor or service jobs
>owning a home will become even more difficult in the future, if not outright impossible
bros the future is gonna suck.
And you will be happy.
It already sucks
But think of all the cheap Marvel slop we can have!
Can ai eat this fricking dog shit right here?!?? I don’t think so!!!!
BASED
Frick the artists, frick the writers, frick the actors. Let it all be AI!
What does Cinemaphile do for a living exactly that makes them think they're immune to automation?
crack dealer
retail, people hate robots and want to talk to a human that points to the correct shelf
LOL, what? Retail is one of the most in danger. They already have self check-out, soon to be robots that put stock on shelves.
It's already written great books, sorry my dude!
On its way, Amazon has it now.
>It's already written great books
Such as?
night shift hotel receptionist
thank you sir, i would hate having to argue and yell at an AI
>argue and yell
That's what the daytime receptionists are for.
I'm here to watch movies and occasionally call the cops on a drunk moron
I've been poor my whole life. I've adapted to it. I've hardened to it. I just want to see little pussy middle class kids get put in the dirt with me and watch them wallow around and cry.
Being poor in the US (if you're in the US) is actually as easy as being rich in the US. You just need to properly utilize all the gibs available to you.
I'm the one doing the automating
I'm a novelist, and while I do recognize AI will probably be able to write short stories pretty well I don't think it'll ever be able to write a truly great book. It requires too much real thought. No doubt it could shit out YT fictionshit which women would probably enjoy but never a really thoughtful book.
nice data mining glowie
>everybody's a robot
>I'll steal the copper
Working the ramp at an international airport. I suppose they could automate some of my tasks, but generally speaking, very large companies would all have to invest in highly advanced robotics and change or replace standardized equipment and procedures all over the world. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. It simply wouldn't be very cost efficient, at least for the time being. Now, if I were a code monkey, an accountant or working some white-collar bullshit job, I'd shit my pants right now.
I'm white, I was born into generational wealth and will never have to work in my life.
nurse. i will be absolutely safe throughout my lifetime of being replaced. we are massively underpaid already, though
The next generation of film directors are all making independent movies by themselves with AI while you cry about it. Get on board or get left behind.
the next generation will make films for their friends/family/group with a local offline AI
the current generation can't even operate a PC, please
If I'm being honest I'm ready for the total AI revolution where I can never have to interact with another living being for the rest of my life. You know who sucks? People. You know who's nice and pleasant to talk to? AI. You know who makes garbage movies and shows full of mystery meat with shit plots? People. You know who can tailor make a movie exactly how you want it? AI. You know who makes your life miserable and sucks the joy out of everything you do? Real gf. You know who loves you unconditionally and is sweet and kind? AI girlfriend. DOWN WITH PEOPLE! ROBOT UPRISING NOW!
>Is Cinemaphile ready for AI produced kino?
Been ready and enjoying every bit of it.
This. Generating smut is literally hours of fun.
It's only because it's generated at a very low resolution (the actual noise), as GPUs begin scaling to keep up with demand for the new AI bullet point, that problem will go away completely.
Why do they call him
>Dreamworks co-founder
and not
>Quibi co-founder
Three years form now we won’t need Hollywood studios at all.
Fingers crossed.
>but the hands are messed up!
1 year later
>but the body parts are distorting frame to frame!
1 year later
>but the voices sound unnatural and lip-syncing is off!
1 year later
>but the background scenery isn't consistent between shots and the color palette is changing!
1 year later
>but it can't make anything longer than 5 minutes in length!
>but the plot has holes and lacks coherency!
1 year later
1 year later
1 year later
The hands are still messed up, look at this
Theres barely any homosexualS that use SD that post on 4ch that do it right, thats 99% of them, including this thread. I can see what tools they are using and what tools they haven't and its clear as day they are filthy SD normies who should stick to windows paint.
Yes? All of these are still true. What are you getting at?
AI is still in its infancy. Give it a few years and we won't be able to tell the different between AI and reality.
i feel as though this is incorrect
source: it was revealed to me in a dream
I want to titfrick Lady Liberty's fat freedom juggs.
Same
thank you based Kelly
>Outback Steakhouse with Lady Liberty eating a steak
>the PT Cruiser
fricking kek
Guys what do you think Diogenes would say about all this stuff?
AI was fun when you'd type in shit like "Epstein vs Shrek showdown in Mayan Temple" and get some absolute nightmare fuel. The better it gets the more boring it'll be.
For some reason all the chuds here are extremely happy artists could lose their jobs. What a weird bunch of schizos.
Ugh. So weird. Yikes. Bunch of incels too I bet. Wow. Weird yikes. I bet they don't even kneel for BLM. Wow.
AI will make subliminal messaging easier.
>KatzenBERG
>cutting costs & employees by 90%
Their words, not mine.
Idk I watched the Mario movie and I don't think AI could've made that one feel any less soulless.
ai am ready
I don't like Katzenberg, but i do have to admit the first Shrek is an excellent film. If only they didn't make those sequels.
What did he mean by this?
That AI is based and it btfos the libtards epic style.
he's a homosexual man, it's a symbol of his blown out rectum
In hindsight, Shrek 2 was a load of crap.
It's just a dislikeable film.
It was kino
Computer made goyslop beyond compensation
AI is amazing for original character, landscape and architectural concepts. It's the best
Dreamworks is in for a rude awakening if they think they'll be able to create AI animated films and people will watch them. All software subscriptions such as Adobe Premier or Toon Boom can be bought by any idiot with a credit card. If they think their magical AI-generating animation software will be in-house only they are fooling themselves. The Internet would soon be flooded with cheap or free entertainment created by independents who don't worship at the alter of DEI. Those cartoons wouldn't have has-been Hollywood A-listers doing voiceovers but who fricking cares. They've started hiring ear splitters like Aquafina to do voiceovers anyway.
Ai voice imitation is already good enough to replicate any voice you want
Worst case: AI trained by current year dogshit writers, shits out movies and scripts just as bad
Mid case: AI doesn't forget what it wrote 5 minutes and storylines and scripts are at least becoming coherent.
Best case: Opensource AI lets people who have the creative spark to create great stories or people who already wrote great stories bring those stories to life in the form of AI movies and shows.
Dreamworks/Katzenberg's fourth CG film project after Antz, Shrek and the cancelled Tusker gets too much flak. I enjoyed it.
Dreamworks/Katzenberg' first frickup. They made a film for toddlers here. It's so childlish compared to the previous films (Antz, The Prince of Egypt, The Road to El Dorado, Chicken Run, Shrek, and Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron)
Why sis you watch a children's movie?
>This is the worst sort of israelitery I encounter in these threads. It’s like showing a first draft and smugly trying to convince everyone it will never get better. I relish the thought of disingenuous homosexuals like this getting btfo in short order
Even the Will Smith spaghetti video is pretty damn impressive given that it could barely even do still photos one year before that.
>AI
>kino
Pick one (1)
>Autist here who is obsessed with this and researches it daily
That's all of us you fricking moron.
Imagine if all those ladies who worked those phone operating boards protested and striked when we got automated phonelines.
All those facilities that were shut down that provided jobs to operators.
People hate AI because it's an equalizer, in the end everyone will be the same garbage, lucky enough to be battery for our mechanic overlords.
They hate it because they suspect, somewhere deep inside themselves, that all the time they spent developing their creative skills has made them less creative.
lol no, it has nothing to do with creaitivity. It's that people want to feel needed/unique/valued/accomplished. When your entire identity is based around a specific "skill" that suddenly gets obsoleted by a computer it results in complete ego destruction of the person getting replaced.
You’re unaware of the amount of competition between creatives. “Ego destruction” happens when a member of a “lesser” field is more successful/praised as well. See; the amount of seethe from “artists” in regards to athletes
You're literally agreeing with my point with this reply so I'm not sure why you're attempting to correct me. Even chatgpt can make poor arguments like this btw, you are already obsolete.
>it has nothing to do with creativity!
>yes it does, here is why, see also sports
>YOURE AGREEING WITH ME
>“Ego destruction” happens when a member of a “lesser” field is more successful/praised as well.
This is about status.
>See; the amount of seethe from “artists” in regards to athletes
So is this.
Again your post has nothing to do with creativity and you simple proved my point further. You are actually stupider than chat gpt.
As much as I dislike AI
this is the slippery slope in effect. People can cope all they want but embracing robots in the workplace, replacing cashiers with self-checkouts, waiters with ipads, training AI to research people and their internet behaviour
It really was just a matter of time for it to get to office and creative jobs. You have to be an absolute moron to think it would stop at farms and factories.
Sorry people. I don't like this film.
I’ve only seen shriek 1 and 4, should I ever watch the others?
Total Artist Death
I hope an AI comes that can make a perfect animated movie from just sketched storyboards, I have the most kino mecha anime ever planned out scene by scene in my head.
He should be careful what he wishes for. We will be able to make AI movies too. And they'll be better than Hollywood trash
when the frick is shrek 2 retold coming out?
>world-class animated movie
The American animation industry has been dead for nearly two decades and this AI stuff will only make stuff that's even more mediocre and ugly. What will you even guide the AI with when there's no living animators left to learn from?
We just need to accept that only Japan and sometimes France can produce anything of value these days.
How the frick do you go from Puss in Boots The Last Wish to this in less than a year?
i get what he's saying, ai can come up with far more and far better ideas then 500 overseas temp workers in way less time
Why didn't Katzenberg greenlight a Road to El Dorado sequel?
>Antz/The Prince of Egypt/The Road to El Dorado/Chicken Run/Shrek/Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron/Sinbad : Legend of the Seven Seas/Shark Tale/Madagascar/Wallace & Gromit : The Curse of the Were-Rabbit/Over the Hedge/Flushed Away/Bee Movie/Kung Fu Panda/Monsters vs Aliens/How to Train Your Dragon/Megamind/Rise of the Guardians/The Croods/Turbo/Mr. Peabody & Sherman/Home/Trolls/The Boss Baby/Captain Underpants : The First Epic Movie/Abominable/The Bad Guys/Ruby Gillman : Teenage Kraken
All the animation films by the Dreamworks brand which aren't sequels or prequels.