Is Cinemaphile ready for the highest form of spiderkino? Y'know, considering the current spidey comic run is shit and we will pretend never happened.
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Um.....Yeah, I really enjoy the game series too. Like it better than the movies. Shame Spidey comics are in the toilet right now.
while its highly likely peter will make the full venom transformation resulting in venom gameplay, we really aren't sure who will be venom after
one thing we do know for sure though is it isn't fricking harry
>one thing we do know for sure though is it isn't fricking harry
Everything about that screams red herring
Insomniac doesn't appear to be a moronic dev team given past history but yes, doing ANYTHING multiverse related or fricking Gwen would be the dumbest thing ever, and would ruin this great series
>screams red herring
Yes it is, they have yet to reveal the main villain in either if the previous games in marketing material
Didn't even know doc ock was in the game until release, they went so far as to remove him from the gameplay videos and not release an image of the deluxe edition statue until after the game released, People bought it not knowing what it even looked like
There is more evidence to say Uncle Aaron is venom and he will be defeated with the trash beats from his mixtape
That's a bit of a stretch. Personally I say Venom is the more viable theory
Venom is big. Might be Insomniac's Eddie Brock.
>Venom is big. Might be Insomniac's Eddie Brock.
What’s interesting is that eddy brock actually exists in the insomniac universe.
So he has to become venom eventually.
>that asterisk from Brock
There's good stuff in there
I like that JJJ just signed it like an autograph
kek, never noticed that before, that's pretty good
I’m glad they decided to make him huge. You can’t imagine my disappointment when I saw Topher Grace’s Venom.
No. It is not going to be Eddie Brock they actually confirmed this explicitly. They said they wanted to do it differently from previous stories.
its obviously going to be wolverine
You guys really are setting yourselves up for disappointment again
When has Insomniac lied before?
>Buff as frick dude
It is Kraven, man. It is pretty obvious. It is not the first time Kraven wears a black suit or bonded with Venom either.
Eddie isn't in the fricking game so it is the only logical outcome
it's gonna be Kraven
Trust me. My uncle works at nintendo
It's not gonna be Eddie either. Let's see which major villains and subplots they got on their plate right now
>Harry; Could lead into Goblin or Venom
>Kraven; will most likely be the villain for 2/3 of the game
>Conners; Peter trying to help out his doctor lizard friend for most of the game
>Mr Negative; Villain for Miles who wants to take revenge for his father
>Symbiote; I''m counting it as well because Peter's mental state has to go down for most of the game and cutscenes will need to focus on it
And now think about how much this game already has on its plate and they won't make Eddie the host for Venom. All of these four won't be just tossed aside. The game will most likely be a huge clusterfrick mess since they also want to give MJ something to do and build on shit they teased in the last game and its DLC
I think kraven is just a macguffin that sets it all into motion
He probably kidnaps Connors and forcibly induces the lizard transformation then releases him back into the city just for the purpose of hunting him
Don't forget Yuri's probably back as Wraith for at least a side mission or responsible for getting Mr. Negative out so she can off him. Then Miles has to figure out if he lets her or protects him.
I think it’s a story thing because of the Story trailer, so she’ll probably get a decent portion of the story.
it might look like a clusterfrick but tbh the first game was so good (especially Peter and Otto) that I think they might be able to navigate it in the finished product
why does Peter as Otto's student work so well? Raimiman2 was so great
Ngl the only thing I liked about the plot was Peter/Ock's relationship. The rest was mediocre to garbage especially that side hustle with Silver Sable and Peter's obsession with MJ.
I don't get the vibe Martin is going to be a villain. Keep in mind that Wraith will also be there.
He’s going to go nuts again.
My guess is that Miles' story will deal with him letting his lower impulses get the better of him and Yuri will be a reflection of that. At the end of his story then Miles will be ready to face symbiote Peter who goes through vaguely the same thing
You think Wraith’ll get a redemption or will her story be left open ended for the third game
Most likely DLC
There’s no DLC planned like the first game.
This companies woke sensibilities will bleed through whether they intend to or not
Only white males will be irredeemable
It's already like this, no reason to expect the trend not to continue
Don’t you have another shitty fan film to make Gavin?
I think they might involve Anti-Venom, since they’ve shown Li is going to be coming back for this game.
Hopefully we’ll get a Venom spin-off in the same vein of MM.
they should do a sinister six game instead just to spite dc and the suicide squad game
I’d play the frick out of a Sinister Six game
Who would you main? I'd be all over Mysterio if he was playable.
the lizard if not mysterio
Miles will fight Peter to help him get the suit off. Harry will become Venom for the final fight. Eddie gets the suit in the post credit scene (after being fricked over somehow by Peter before he got the suit off) and he gets the spin off game
Who was the Venom that killed Miles mom?
Huh I guess it’s gonna be wrapped up in the game, probably in a majority of Miles’s parts of the game
No it’s not
They posted an image of black suit Peter on the website and the filename was venom
They took the image down the next day
It's joever, They fricked up
No, it's somebody who's wearing the symbiote suit before it gets monstrous. (Like MJ)
Yeah, that’s the Venom symbiote. That doesn’t mean Peter is Venom.
it's going to be Kraven or Kingpin
>we will pretend never happened
And yet you brought it up.
I'm ready for the Green Goblin setup for the final game, and praying for zero multiverse shenanigans setup.
That universe already has Miles horning in on Pete's secret-identity anyway. No need for a multiverse.
This. Adding another Spider would ruin the game unless Gwen is a solo DLC without bleeding into the actual story.
I think as long as Miles will continue to have his romance be related to the new deaf girl they made and not Gwen Stacy, I don't think they'll touch multiverse shit
But time will tell. Could be they'll introduce her somehow in the next game, because of how popular Spider-verse is, and Hailey will be completely forgotten. But I hope they'll actually give Miles an original character for once and not another one of Peter's used-goods
Spider-Verse 2 made less money then TASM2, it's the second lowest grossing Spider-Man movie ever, after the first Spider-Verse
Nta but the social conditioning to Miles is working. Across the Spiderverse made way more than Into the Spiderverse despite being on almost the same budget. Now he will appear as a main character in Sony's biggest game release since God of War and The Last of Us.
That was going to happen regardless of financial performance, if Miles' push depended on real world metrics like the case used to be for organic characters, he'd be strangled in the crib 12 years ago before ever leaving USM. Being black is like IRL plot armor for him.
You don't get what I was telling you with this. The reason I mentioned the Ps5 game is because a large amount of people will accept Miles into their hearts since this Spider-Man product is the most hyped thing since sliced bread. Literally every trailer rakes in over 10 million views. It's too big to fail and Miles will become bigger and more mainstay than ever
And I'm telling you they were going to keep trying to make that happen until it happened no matter how much it cost them, their racism knows no bounds
No one was debating you about this you moronic mongoloid
The reply chain is about Spider-Verse's and Miles' artificial popularity
I'm ready for big beefy MJ Venom.
Hot.
swarm is in the game because she got stung by bees
Why do the characters keep changing radically in appearance between each game?
No way that manface is actually real. I need proof that it isn't edited.
Watch the trailer
Wasn't a fan of how the characters were portrayed in the first game and I don't like angry goopy symbiote, I like classic symbiote. That being said I can't wait to play through it with my cousins again and MST3K it
>and MST3K it
It's called "Riffing", Einstein
How about you riff my wiener, gayola
You insult MST3K, you poser
How about you pose my wiener in your mouth, QU33R
Keep going; I'm almost finished
I'm having more fun with this than Spider-Man Remastered
We're not allowed to like the playstation spider-man because Miles is in it and also Mary Jane does stuff.
I don't actually hate this Miles. Game is fun anyway.
he's not as bad as doin ma thang miles, but as long as he remains a sidekick and stays in his lane we'll have no beef
fair criticisms
>because Miles is in it
Why is he calling himself Spider-man in that universe?
I didn't play the games so I have no info.
Literally because Peter went on vacation for a few weeks to do photography and asked miles to fill in as spider-man while he was gone and he just never gave up the name
Keep in mind this request came on the heels of miles accidentally webbing the rotors of a helicopter carrying rhino which lead to the convoy crashing, rhino escaping and rampaging through the city, destroying a power station which blacked out the city and nearly getting Peter killed trying to wrangle him.
That's just the opening of the game
During his 3 week tenure as new yorks one and only spiderman he also accidentally blew up a bridge by using his electrical powers on a truck transporting experimental fuel cells
And after that was generally completely ineffective at stopping the tinkerer who was plotting to blow up roxxon plaza because her brother got super cancer aids from chemical exposure working for them
He was continuously one step behind her the entire game, got his ass kicked every time they fought, and the only reason the bomb was disabled is tinkerer had a come to Jesus moment and realized her calculations were incorrect and the bomb was going to blow up half the city instead of just evil white patriarchy plaza and flew it up into the sky so it could detonate safely
Then Peter returns and praises miles to tell him what a great job he did next to the new black lives matter mural
That's horrible.
Please tell me you're using a lot of exaggeration.
And why wouldn't Miles want his own identity?
I'm not, that's actually simplified
Those are the story beats when you cut away the fat
It gets especially bad that they try to treat the explosion as some kind of final act of redemption for the tinkerer
"She sacrificed herself to save the city"
homie SHES THE ONE THAT MADE THE BOMB!
Why doesn't miles have his own name? Now that's a good question since this one also has the theme of doin ma own thang which is why he has the black and red suit
Peter gifted him his own red and blue suit but he ended up making his own, and he says to Peter, this is a quote now "I gotta be me"
...but you kept the name
>"I gotta be me"
>...but you kept the name
It's one of those things I can understand perfectly from a meta perspective, but in character it's just so poorly thought out.
Peter got his aunt killed and unleashed a super virus killing a few thousand people along with releasing an entire prison. A bridge and a power station really are well within the Spider-Man levels of "good job."
These are different things, Otto was putting his plan into motion under Peter's nose, phinn was really open about what was going on with miles
It's like Peter said in the first game you have to do what's right no matter how much it hurts as he beat the hell out of his father figure and mentor and allowed his aunt to die so there would be enough cure for everyone else
That's in Stark contrast to miles who could not put his personal feelings aside, it didn't matter that phinn was trying to kill everybody because they are friends and he kept trying to redeem her and talk her out of it instead of just stopping her with rape correction
Nta. To be fair it's not fully on Peter that May didn't get saved by him. She also didn't let him. He was ready to risk letting these people die because he loved her that much. I really don't mind Spider-Man not being the beacon of all that is good in the world just letting him be human for a moment. Spider-Man is not a pained utilitarian even if some media tries to convince us of that. He goes for more of an idealic approach where he will always try to save everyone even if the cost is his own life.
>That's in Stark contrast to miles who could not put his personal feelings aside,
Yeah because he's a naive, inexperienced kid whose barely just become a hero. It's fine for him to be flawed and to make bad choices. I don't think the story executed it perfectly but I liked that Miles was imperfect. He gets called out on it at certain points in the game too which helps.
I'm actually fine with that, I agree with you and don't think it's a flaw in his character that he hasn't figured it out after getting his powers like 9 months ago
It was actually an error in peters judgement leaving him to fly solo before he was ready
Not issue at all with him fricking it up and making bad judgment calls and in the end he allowed a situation to get completely out of hand
The issue now is after bumbling his way through his own story from a meta perspective he's getting treated as a spider-man on equal footing with the original instead of his kid-arachnid sidekick like he should be
Sidekick miles= fine
Equal partnership miles= fuk outta hea
Are they really equal? In the trailers Peter is still calling the shots and telling Miles what to do. They're only really equal as far as sharing a name but I think that's something they just kind of rolling.
It depends on if you're offended at Miles existing and or have a cuck fetish.
That's not the way it appeared to me, in the gameplay it was the lion's share from miles perspective, There was the suit reveal beat em up that Peter did clearing out those enemies and then it switches over to miles for a good while
He calls the audible saying I go low you go high and then switch us back to Peter for that chase where miles swoops in and rescues him because I guess his spider sense doesn't work for whatever reason??
And then a switch is back to miles for the rest of The demo where he calls another audible to do an ally-oop
Peter has some serious Robin vibes in that gameplay if you ask me
It seems though that miles is probably going to leave New York for a while and go overseas at some point
He's fighting outside in one of the scenes and that's not a place that I recognize as a new yawka
Peter stops being responsible around Miles a lot, it's the only way to make Miles' character work
The Miles and Mary Jane stealth sections sucked dick
It's completely fair to dislike a piece of media because they got a Poochie in it and the main love interest is annoying and irritating without purpose even having you play through below average stealth sections multiple times.
A Scooby Doo adaptation having Scrappy is a valid reason to dislike it
>the highest form of spiderkino
Anything with Miles shitting it up can never reach this
>People think Harry is Venom because of the trailer
>They seriously think Harry can just make a big ass hole like that without visibly having the symbiote suit on him
Peter is Venom
>People think Peter is Venom because they're cowards
MJ is Venom
and it is highly likely harry will make a full goblin transformation and be the real big bad of the story
J.J Jameson is Venom, why else would he go after Spider-Man.
king pin has been suspiciously absent on the heels of having his entire organization completely upended, and we know there's a jailbreak at the raft in this game as well cause by wraith
who do you think she's there to kill? well, that should be obvious
which brings me to my next point is part of why I always gravitated towards marvel stuff is the connection between different characters which is why I'd really appreciate a daredevil cameo
nothing major but it would be neat to run into him and then have him later give you a phone call with a lead for you to follow which he gathered by roughing up some mooks on the street
Sony games and current ASM drink from the same septic tank, pretending otherwise is laughable. That and the gameplay sucks, which is the greater tragedy in my book.
>Miles Morales
I hate how you guys have already ruined conversation about this game because of your schizo brainrot.
>talk shit
>get hit
>cry exact same catchphrase as the last 50 times
Life as a Milesgay ain't easy.
I can't wait for Paul to make his big debut in the Insomniac verse. I hope he gets his own game.
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>Is Cinemaphile ready for the highest form of spiderkino?
Do you think Ps4 Spider-Man knows about the Symbiote thanks to Across the Memeverse but still lets it take over him to preserve LE CANON?
They’ve confirmed that no multiverse shenanigans are happening.
So Peter takes on the suit because he wants to preserve the canon
No. It’s because it’s completely disconnected from the Spiderverse movie.
Your source? He's in the movie and he's been travelling the multiverse before the second game as well.
Insomniac already said on a QnA they’re not directly related, and Insomniac Spider-Man showing up in the movie was merely an easter egg. He’s probably just a variant, like how despite sharing Earth numbers in the movies, Peter B isn’t 616 Peter.
You're gonna need to post that direct quote for me to believe you. No one said anything about Peter B.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/15ptwna/for_the_people_who_keep_saying_that_spiderverse/
It says "not directly connected" in reference to the story of the Spiderverse movies, anon. That doesn't mean that they're not canon to eachother. It just means you're not gonna find the plot of Spider-Man 2 in Across the Spiderverse and vise versa.
Not directly connected means they’re not connected. Why else would Insomniac Peter not know about the symbiote if he’s the same Insomniac Peter that knows about the multiverse and canon events? Use your brain.
No. Directly not connected means directly not connected. They're still connected but like they said. Not directly. Do you have trouble reading and comprehending some words forgetting they exist?
>Why else would Insomniac Peter not know about the symbiote if he’s the same Insomniac Peter that knows about the multiverse and canon events?
Because it's a plothole. The movie has tons of them especially when they're related to other films.
You’re the one who’s clearly having trouble with reading. Not directly means no. End of discussion.
If they meant no connection they would have said "no connection". "Not directly" isn't equal to "no". The movie can still be indirectly connected which is what they are refering to here. moron.
They can’t say it has no connection without being disrespectful, and they can’t say it’s connected without ruining the story of 2, so they’re pussyfooting around it, and trying to have the best of both worlds without committing to either.
split is not directly connected to unbreakable, you don't need either of them to watch each other. They're fully stand alone films with their own completely unrelated stories
they're both directly connected to glass, you need both of them to watch that one
that's what it means
They’re not connected. They actively contradict each other.
Across the Spiderverse contradicts itself too. Does that mean it has no connection to itself?
Yes, and it shouldn’t exist.
he was in spider-geddon also, and he had more of a role than just being a glorified background asset for a gag
the point is it doesn't matter
it has no bearing on the story so it wont get brought up
Unless it’s explicitly said in the games, it didn’t happen. Plain and simple.
Yeah. Unless the next movie ends in everyone getting mindwiped, I don’t think they’re the same guy. The story of 2 genuinely can’t work if that’s the case.
Pete's from 616B
Miles in the movie is also from 1610B
I guess they got to infinity and started again at 0
The mainline comics are Earth-616, Peter B is from Earth-616, and MCU has been called Earth-616 before. Point is that the Earth numbers in the movie don’t really matter, and they’re all just variants with similar enough Earth numbers.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-616B
It said 616 first. The B was slapped on after the fact.
But what about the comic?
They didn’t comment on that, just the movie. It was on small QnA section on the Playstation store page that I can’t find any more, but I’m certain it was real. I found it after people found a clear rend of Symbiote Spider-Man on the subreddit, and there’s a screenshot of the section I’m talking about with the movie with other people talking about it.
They confirmed lots of things that aren't true
Venom is a random guy
>Venom wont be a goofy but menacing slab of meat with insane power
>wont constantly be making dumb jokes that Peter would make
>most likely will be a snarling monster devoid of humor
Hopefully he'll at least develop a natural, if albeit strained friendship/rivalry with Peter.
>watched some cutscenes of the first game recently
Why is western vidya dialogue so awkward and sanitized? It's not as bad as Forspoken, but it's getting there.
What’s wrong with it?
My expectations are
>Peter has sample of symbiote lying around somewhere, but fuses with most of it
>Peter turns into Bully Lowenthal
>Miles gets worried and tries to figure out how to save Peter
>Mr. Negative redeems himself by corrupting the corrupting influence of the symbiote to make it safe to use
>Miles becomes Anti-Venom to remove Symbiote from Peter (or bring it under control)
>Symbiote fricks off to Eddie after the credits to become normal Venom
>Peter becomes black
>Miles becomes white in response
kino
His eyes look like cum
I really dislike this design/texture they've been using for Venom since the movie. Plus, I think it looks cooler if it has some blue/purple thrown into it, possibly as the light refraction.
Probably be a 90s symbiote look as an unlockable.
Imo I think Venom himself should look all goopy and alive but when it’s the black suit it should look like a normal cloth or spandex suit since
They’re clearly going for a more Ultimate/Web of Shadows inspired Symbiote with the abilities, so it’d look out of place to have a cloth suit create black tendrils out of nowhere.
Yeah it does make more sense for this story and how the symbiote works in game. It’s just a personal thing for me, like how I wish the white patches were on the back of his hands and that’s where the webs came out. I like in the original story Peter didn’t know it was alive so it looking like a normal suit makes sense up until Venom makes sense to me
Too much of an ask because they aren't going to make all new web animations to make that happen, they couldn't even he bothered to animate capes in the last game so they removed em
It leaves me hopeful that they'll have the unlimited suit in this game now that they have capes
I also would like this to be part of his transformation since they are heavily leaning into this story it seems and they even copied the venom logo from it
If they do give him a cape I really hope they give the 2099 suit its cape. I fricking hate how they never put it in
Capes are going to be in 2, and even have cape physics.
Frick yeah
Based classic chad. I'll never like the goopy texture or monster mouth Venom. I hate that every butthole artist gives them a shittier version of the eyes and spider and forgets the white patches on the hands.
Frick all y'all I'm going galaxy brain
>Harry initially gets the symbiote
>Bond can't hold, Conners tries to figure out what's wrong
>Peter gets the symbiote
>Harry gets better magically
>Peter loses symbiote
>Symbiote rebonds with Harry in a painful process
>Harry's long dead. It's The Chameleon pretending to be Harry for Kraven, his brother.
>Symbiote gets inspired by this and becomes obsessed with hunting down Peter again
>He wears The Chameleon's body like a meat suit around Kraven but can't fool him.
oh and
>Symbiote grows by absorbing hosts
>It's going full Prototype by absorbing multiple people to gain mass and get McLargeHuge
>MJ, now with JJJ as her boss at the Bugle, gets desperate for a big break to save her job
>She gets careless and prints the wrong identity for a serial killer (Wraith?) and Peter ruins her reputation and careers
>She bonds with the symbiote, which turns her anger and frustration with Peter into hatred
>She becomes the main Venom
>>MJ, now with JJJ as her boss at the Bugle, gets desperate for a big break to save her job
This journalist MJ thing is such horseshit
>mj becomes fem venom
>stalks and rapes peter
remove 'fem' and yes.
Its just more DEI slop with Miles as the main character, pass all day
He’s not the main character. Peter and Miles are dual protagonists, and you can switch between them whenever you want in the open world.
>He’s not the main character
Lie to yourself boy, but not to me.
They've been very clear Spider-Man 2 is split evenly between Peter, Miles and MJ (as Venom).
>One autist rants EVERY THREAD unable to understand why they’re both called Spider-Man
It’s the same circular conversation every time
>unable to understand why they’re both called Spider-Man
because there is no reason for them to both be spider-man
it's like batman, it's a mantle that other people can take up in the absence of the original but when the original is there the replacement needs frick off and make their own identity
there's no justification for them to both have the same name and be in the same city at the same time
miles can go be spider-man in a different city if he wants
It's easy. If someone was called just The Engineer there would be confusion if there was two especially when one is a mentor and the other is the student.
>sony about to release new spider-man tv show
>hundreds or thousands of streamers will put it up on israelitetube, free to watch
>sony is okay with this and expecting it to happen
why do we hate sony again?
I hope there's at least a classic symbiote suit variant.
100% the symbiote will adjust itself to whatever suit you are wearing. The Raimi-Man suit will transform into the symbiote raimi-man suit.
It’d be fun if all of them had symbiote variants. They could have the 2099 suit become Flipside, or Sensational could become Spider-Carnage.
Flipside would be fun seeing as Miguel‘a never had a symbiote suit. Haven’t read his newest stuff though so I could be wrong
He did.
Oh damn and he looks sick as frick
It’s going to be in Symbiote Spider-Man 2099 this October.
Oh shit I can’t wait to read that. Miguel’s my guy and I wonder how wearing the the same symbiote (I’m assuming) as Kron did when he was Venom could be really interesting if done right
what
when
I really hope it’s good.
If Insomniac’s Spider-Man is canon to the movie, why wasn’t Insomniac Miles invited to the Spider Society?
I don't care what anyone says, Insomniac Spidey is the best adaptation of the material, surpassing the movies. It's a Spidey fan's only refuge from the current state of bad ASM comics.
Not really but I'm glad you enjoy the story.
Tobey, Garfield, and Holland, none of them got it right. That's not to say there aren't things to enjoy in those films, but as adaptations they vary from watered down
How is that cope? If its not referenced or relevant at all to the game, then how can you say its canon? Being connected doesn't validate it either
Lowenthal plays second rate Tobey with less backbone and your position is incomprehensible.
>Lowenthal plays second rate Tobey
Tobey is cardboard and lacks energy. What are you even talking about?
I'm talking about the voice actor with range so limited he's typecast as either a dweeb or an edge lord (what's the difference har har). What energy does Lowenthal bring? When does the script ever grant his Peter any build up or bite?
Don't take this the wrong way, and I sincerely mean this because you know people on here like to shitpost, but I get the vibe you're oversimplifying and have an obvious bias against the game's take. How does Yuri not have range in the first game? By your logic I could say Tobey had 3 settings
>Deadpan
>Yelling
>Crying
See what I mean?
>none of them got it right.
Got what right? MJ isn't a reporter whom Peter constantly simps over like a parasite in the comics.
>but as adaptations they vary from watered down
I have no clue what you're talking about. What did they water down that also couldn't be applied to Insomniac's Spider-Man as well.
Are you feigning ignorance or just being stubborn based on nostalgia? Again, there are things to like in the films, but there's a lot to pick apart as well. Insomniac too has its shortcomings, such as MJ like you mentioned, but I personally feel it's stronger by comparison.
I'll give you a good example; Otto's "Tentacle AI made me evil" doesn't convey the pettiness of the original character. In Garfield's case you got "I feel into electric eels and mad people kept pushing me around" and a Rhino that was a fricking tank with guns. No thanks
>Are you feigning ignorance or just being stubborn based on nostalgia
No that's you being unclear with what you're saying. Not everyone thinks the same as you. Insomaniac Peter is Class A simp who constantly needs others so he can get his act together like in the modern comics which you just complained about. The dude's character is the most sanitized rounded off of any edge Spider-Man adaptation I've ever seen. Silver Sable has done unimaginable damage to New York literally caging up people but he still wants to befriend her like she's cool.
>I'll give you a good example; Otto's "Tentacle AI made me evil" doesn't convey the pettiness of the original character. In Garfield's case you got "I feel into electric eels and mad people kept pushing me around" and a Rhino that was a fricking tank with guns. No thanks
But the others do basically these villains just like the Ps4. All of MCU Spidey's villains are extremely petty in the same way their comic counter parts were. Same with Raimi-Man. Not to mention that you forgot Norman Osborn in Insomaniac's version who actually loves his son instead of classic Norman who would throw him under the bus to save his own skin.
>Peter is Class A simp who constantly needs others so he can get his act together like in the modern comics which you just complained about.
Insomniac Peter is allowed to be an adult with a steady teaching job, be in a relationship with Mary Jane, and has the decency to let Aunt May go to do the right thing. I don't know why you think this is in any way comparable to the shit going on in modern comics, and you're just flat out wrong here.
>All of MCU Spidey's villains are extremely petty in the same way their comic counter parts were.
Except the part where they hated Stark more than him. What are you talking about?
>Same with Raimi man
I just said Otto wasn't petty because of the before mentioned reasons, Sandman had pathos trying to save his daughter, and you're full of it
>you forgot Norman Osborn in Insomaniac's version who actually loves his son instead of classic Norman who would throw him under the bus to save his own skin.
....Do you actually know ANYTHING about classic Spidey? Because it feels like you're a wiki skimmer. There was a time before going Goblin where Norman did love his son.
>Insomniac Peter is allowed to be an adult with a steady teaching job
He was literally a scientist in the previous game who lost his job.
>be in a relationship with Mary Jane
So does Raimi-Man. MCU-Man as well if he didn't have a concious. Ps4 Spider-Man also broke up with her at least once and it took until the very literal end of the game for them to get together again.
>and has the decency to let Aunt May go to do the right thing
What the frick are you talking about and how does that not apply to literally every Aunt May ever made. They all always do the right thing.
>Except the part where they hated Stark more than him
First off. You're moving the goalpost. They're still petty. Secondly. They all hate Spider-Man. You do know that most Spider-Man villains didn't start out hating Spider-Man, right? Across all adaptations. Ock couldn't give less of a shit about him until Harry demanded it in Raimi's movie. Same with the Ps4 version who exclusively hates Norman and only used Peter for his own benefit.
>There was a time before going Goblin where Norman did love his son.
It's been retconned over and over again. Initially he doesn't really love him, he wanted to control him for his own benefit but it's funny you mentioning being a wiki skimmer considering how you can't refute a single argument. Next thing you'll say Uncle Ben always said the "With great power" speech.
You're not using "literally" correctly, stop acting like a zoomer teen. And what was is not a criticism of what is.
>So does Raimi
You can't criticize the game for having Peter/MJ patch things up at the very end when that is exactly how Raimi's movie ends in 3. Make up your mind.
>What the frick are you talking about
I thought OMD was obvious, but then again you come off like a casual
>First off. You're moving the goalpost.
That's not moving a goalpost, moron. Neither hated Spider-Man, they had petty pathos towards Stark. In the MCU Peter was merely an obstacle to a man they hated more.
>It's been retconned
Nice save, dumbass
Yeah you're not going to make anyone take you seriously by just spamming buzzwords when cornered on your arguments. He lost his job like cucked modern Peter who was also a scientist in Slott's run.
>You can't criticize the game for having Peter/MJ patch things up at the very end when that is exactly how Raimi's movie ends in 3
You are the one saying Insomniac Peter is totally different from these movie versions you moron. I told you before that you can't find a single negative made against these adaptations that you also couldn't hold against your Spider-Man.
>then again you come off like a casual
LMAO You are the moron who can't write a single corherent sentence that doesn't contradict itself later on by the comics or the movies. If you wanted to mention OMD just mention OMD instead of playing these moronic games to get on top. Your argument never made sense and May saves Peter in No Way Home as well literally dying in the process.
>That's not moving a goalpost, moron.
>To change the rules while someone is trying to do something in order to make it more difficult for them
You literally did that. Look up the definition. They were all petty and you changed the rules to "O-Only Stark" which is wrong as well. Not just moronic but illiterate as well lol
>Neither hated Spider-Man
There is literally a line in FFH where Mysterio gets furious and makes it his goal to kill Peter Parker. How about you watch the movies before talking.
>Nice save, dumbass
So you admit that this love was retconned in later on? I accept your concession then. Still couldn't refute a single time I mentioned the comics so far despite desperately claiming I am a casual
>Yeah you're not going to make anyone take you seriously by just spamming buzzwords when cornered on your arguments
I actually provided arguments, while you're just being a biased prick. But I'll retract the zoomer shit, and just call you an idiot who can't use "literally" correctly.
>You are the one saying Insomniac Peter is totally different from these movie versions you moron.
Cite where I said that. I said it was better. And I already told you where the movies fall flat, but apparently you can't read either.
I don't know what level of autism you have but this conversation is deteriorating fast all because you can't think of proper counterarguments.
>....Do you actually know ANYTHING about classic Spidey? Because it feels like you're a wiki skimmer. There was a time before going Goblin where Norman did love his son.
Under Ditko he thought his son sucked, under Romita it's implied he was better before the Goblin where he started hating him, then he'd get amnesia and start caring for Harry, then sometime after his death it was revealed he'd been absuive well before, and then Stormin Norman returned in the Clone Saga and held mix care and contempt for his dead son.
Norman loves Harry, but he’s still a selfish prick at heart.
>How is that cope?
The game developers said they're indirectly related so they are part of the same canon. You're coping by pretending there is no connection.
If it has no bearing on the plot, referenced, or has any sort of mention whatsoever, then what good is a pointless tweet from the dev? Shouldn't encountering multiple variants have some sort of relevance to Insomniac Peter given the stuff he's going to encounter for the first time?
It's marketing, anon. Why do you fall for it? Why do you even care, nay, NEED for everything is connected?
>If it has no bearing on the plot
So do most early Spider-Man issues to eachother. Doesn't mean they're not canon. Spider-Man trapping Sandman in a vacuum cleaner has no bearing to If this be my destiny but it still happened.
>It's marketing
You're coping again. We all know it's marketing but it's canon as well because that's what they said. Unless they deconfirm it, it stays canon.
You are wrong.
>this is the only refuge from ASM
>when it has the worst version of MJ in any media
>Miles shilling
>BND era Peter characterisation
It's actually over
Miles is tolerable in Insomniac, and he’s allowed to lose. He got repeatedly destroyed by Phin, and never one a single fight with her.
There's no amount of excuses that can justify introducing him in the first game or having him also be called Spider-Man.
We'll have to wait and see how the next game handles Miles being apart of the black suit storyline, it seems like Miles is gonna be the one to free him from the suit which will be total bullshit
Legit autism
>no rebuttal
And what would the point of that be given your actions?
Trying to justify your position instead of resulting to petty insults? Kind of like how I'm being civil with you to justify my position of being smug in my own righteousness
I called you autistic because you repeat yourself ad nauseam. We get it. I would like nothing more than to engage in a productive conversation, but I question the time and wasted energy given your history man.
I like game Miles, I don't care for movie or in most cases comic Miles. Simple as that
I mean I repeat myself because my position remains unchanged and my reasoning remains unchanged.
Now I'd like you to look inward for a second and try and think of a reason why you repeating the same thing over and over again is less autistic than when I do it.
>I mean I repeat myself because my position remains unchanged and my reasoning remains unchanged.
It has become spam, my man. You're not adding to the conversation, you're just creating an echo chamber. And what have I repeated? You're the only one creating a cycle. Believe me, I don't want to argue with you. It just gets old my friend.
One post in a thread is spam? And not even particularly inflammatory spam at that? Boy you must be new
Also "not adding to the conversation" is replying to multiple posts and calling them autistic.
Anon Cinemaphile isn't that big. It's likely you and I have talked a 100+ times already. And we already covered that, so stop with your hurt feelings because that's how we run here
Just because he's an autist doesn't mean he's wrong.
The movie nor Spider-Geddon comic are canon to the Insomniac Universe. They're not going to reference either of those things, it's just marketing and easter eggs. Unless something is said or happens in game, it does. not. matter.
Nice cope
>venom isn't eddie brock
>kraven has an army for some reason instead of being a lone hunter
>miles is there
>mj is probably still ugly
>peter parker prob still have that ugly face update
>prob more escort and stealth missions
>black cat is prob still covered like a muslim and have that bogged face as a self insert of the designer
>prob more pride flags and Black folk than ever
Dropped, I have much higher standards than this dumpster fire
so just how woke are they gonna make it
are they going to make the symbiote some kind of allegory for heterosexuality or whiteness or something
Loving the inclusion of the web wings and gliding mechanic. Don’t know why but I’ve always liked the look of them and seeing Spidey glide is cool
Is Shocker in the game?
no he's at the ends of the earth
Venom is clearly Jason Todd
what if venom after absorbing all the symbiotes and killing knull bonded with the batman who keks
I want MJ's big Venom wiener deep inside me.
I know there's lots of opinions but I'm happy Peter has a decently ok life even though it's a hard balancing act sometimes, but he has friends he can rely on to ease his trouble a bit
And I'm also happy to know he confirmed plap plap plapped black cats fat ass and creampied it with reckless abandon
Being spider-man is hard but it's not without perks
Yeah I’m kinda over the thought that being Spider-Man is a curse or makes his life actively shittier. It’s not a curse it’s his responsibility and sometimes the responsibilities you have make your life harder but they’re important for a reason. Peter, at least in my opinion, wants to be Spider-Man most of the time. It’s why he’s still in the game despite being able to help people as a scientist or something. He likes being Spider-Man and helping people because he enjoys it even when The Bugle slanders him or when Sandman throws him through a building. Because he knows he’s stopping someone, anyone, from feeling as horrible as he did when Uncle Ben died
Sandman is still in Peter’s backpack vial, so at least he doesn’t have to deal with him anymore.
>Pete isn’t that a little unethical, keeping Sandman in that vial?
>Have you ever fought Sandman at the beach? That’s what I thought
>Sandman is still in Peter’s backpack vial
Only a part of him. Pete is afraid that he can still control it and use it to escape from where ever he is locked up.
What good life and friends? May’s dead, Otto turned into a psycho, Yuri became a vigilante killer, MJ is a c**t who throws herself into the fire every chance she gets and won’t move in with him to his childhood home, Harry is back but still dying, Kraven is hunting the only man who can potentially save Harry, and he has an alien goo suit that’s feeding off of and amplifying all of his negative emotions. His life sucks.
I'm really hoping peters powers and arms are good because I really prefer to play as miles and I don't want that
Damn, Miles needs to charge his phone.
I think it’s worth noting that the symbiote powers and waldoes are apparently going to be separate according to the Hot Toys figure.
Huh
They’re not a replacement for after he loses the suit?
He’s most likely going to have them from the start of the game
>that bust
MJ.
Why would they use an apple for scale? It doesn't mean anything if the item you're using varies in size
I don’t know. Tell them, not me.
Spidergay
the last game was super woke
peter got literally beaten up or rescued by every women he encounters in a cutscene at least once yet he never rescued women in a typcial super hero way and never won a fight against a sinlge woman
he also constantly got ordered around and told what to do by women and was constantly emasculated and humiliated by them for cheap jokes yet women were never written as stupid or weak
he got sexually exploited and stripped down to his underwear for a cheap joke but every female character was flat chested and got her cleavage censored
peter already got rescued by miles in the gameplay demo alone so i can't even imagine how much the final game is going to shit on peter simply for being a straight white guy
meds, you're way too sensitive
I think i figured out who venom is gonna be and it will be norman like think about what if the post credits scene in the first game where the symbiote reaches out to him was just foreshadowing that its going to attach itself to him and harry will end up being the green goblin in the 3rd game instead I know some of you will say I'm moronic for thinking this but Insomniac are the same pepole who thought all there moronic decisions for mj was a good idea so there a chance they will go with it
Yes I am
Expectation for the third game?
Here's what i expect
>Main plot is Norman wanting Peter dead, Otto wants Peter and Norman dead, and Peter is trying to save them both.
>Norman goes crazy after Harry's death becomes the Green Goblin and the main villain of the game
>Otto comes back with a new body and becomes superior Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus the second villain of the game
>Norman kill's Felicia on the Washington bridge
>Normans sets a bomb at Peter's apartment to try and kill both peter and MJ
>Otto gets redeemed and sacrifices him self to save peter and MJ
>both Otto and Norman die in the blast
>Peter gets a happy ending with MJ
Will always holdout hope for Venom MJ.
>Tony Todd gives a "Face it, Tiger" line
Yes