>is A Mary Sue
>get everything hand gifted to him
>fricks things up but still wins because he's Frodo
Not one word from/tv against him...
We all know why
>is A Mary Sue. >get everything hand gifted to him. >fricks things up but still wins because he's Frodo
>ignoring the fact that Sam carried his ass several times
>I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you
When I was watching this back when I was 11, I thought this was supposed to be some joke line
>>I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you
So they could literally put the ring in a box and not feel any influence from it. LotR is so moronic, only impressive for a kid brain
Isn’t the fact that he constantly fricks up a sign that he isn’t a Mary sue
Lol this. Frodo doesn't do a single heroic or badass thing throughout the series. Not only that, he fails the quest by claiming the ring as his own. OP is a moron homosexual
Right, if anyone is a Gary Stu it's Samwise. Resists the ring, defeats Shelob, carries Frodo to the Volcano, stays fat the whole time
>Gary Stu
If you knew how moronic you sound you would stop
This is how you know you morons can't reason. In a movie where Legolas exists you settled on Frodo as the Mary Sue candidate.
What's wrong with Legolas? He's an elf with good precision. Nothing more
>proceeds to skate down a flight of stairs on the back of a shield while getting five headshot kills on the way down
Here’s the thing, though - he’s an Elf. They’re an entire race of Mary Sues, but they’re also destined(“doomed”) to ultimately not play the deciding role in the fate of Middle Earth. Their time has passed. They’re basically the caretakers, the stewards, of Middle Earth, and if any of them had chosen to fight that fate, they’d end up like Denethor, a lesser evil standing in Man’s way.
He can solo the oliphants with how he acted in the battle.
You can't be a Mary Stu when your entire race is OP to begin with. Legolas wasn't even all that much of a badass by elvish standards
Men and Elves were supposed to be the two children of illuvatar, but Tolkien obviously has a hardon for elves and made them objectively better always
'All men are all children of God, but some races are better than others, like those dirty French bastards' - Tolkien, probably
All the elves that came to help at helms deep died and Legolas is out there shield surfing
it was a dumb thing to change, also it ruined Aragorn and Eomer's friendship that developed during that battle
also I think Aragorn is the only one who cares when an elf dies, the rest don't care that they're all wiped out
Elves at helm's deep is fanfic written by Jackson's wife and since she lacks imagination her elves were basically humans in swanky gold armor and were just there as cannon fodder.
Even Legolas fricked up with the dynamite uruk
he constantly falls over and has to be rescued
how is that a mary sue?
there are male mary sues (gary stue)
like Itatchi from Naruto
>like Itatchi from Naruto
Keep it in your containment board homosexual
>constantly fricks up
Did you even watch the movie ?
I watched the middle one
Frodo doesn't have any exceptional talents, he's just a normal hobbit who chose to accept the heros journey.
lol, Frodo is LITERATURELY the opposite of a Mary sue. He’s so weak and useless his battle in the movie is continuing a suicidal journey despite being a coward, and seeing the good in Sméagol despite his flaws.
he failed though, he succumbed to the ring
A lot of homosexuals ITT don't understand what a mary sue is.
But Frodo is a very good example of a hidden Mary Sue
>AI vomit
wrong thread
He’s not a Gary Stu, he’s hardly the most competent in the movie.
If you want a Gary Stu then just look at any 80s and 90s action hero movie. They died in the 2000s because people got bored of those types of characters.
>Gary Stu
Enough with this moronic term. Nothing in the term "Mary Sue" is gendered. We do not need a 2nd term for male Mary Sues.
This. Knock off that cringe “Gary Stu” bullshit, it’s gay as hell guys
Why would you call a male character by a female name?
>just look at any 80s and 90s action hero movie
1 you haven't seen them
2 you don't know what a mary sue is
Gollum won, frodo lost
What powers does frodo have? Running away? Having an item that helps him to run away? Being saved? Poking an enemy giving him just enough time to escape? This is either bait or you're a moron.
Do you not know what a Mary Sue is? Google it first
Frodo isn't a Mary Sue though. If anything Aragon/Legolas are closer to that label.
>is a Mary Sue
>gets constantly beaten up and captured
>nearly dies several times
>gets manipulated
>has to get literally carried to the finish line
>fails anyway
Yeah, a real Mary Sue
>Mary Sue
>4'1"
he failed his quest though.
Has to be saved by
>Aragorn
>Glorfindel/Arwen
>Gandalf
>Sam
>Faramir
>Gollum indirectly disposing him of the ring
>Gandalf again
You just wanted to bait, right?
He called him a "Mary Sue" and in a following line says he 'fricks everything up." OP is moronic.
>is A Mary Sue
I don't think you understand what that term means.
Samwise was Tolkein’s educated upper-class take on the British working class. He’s a dumb servant, can’t read maps, happy and stupid and dependable. Just wants to sit in a pub and drink beer. He’ll come with the rich and powerful people on their insane quest to meddle in world politics (e.g. world war 1) and suffer endless hardship, but it’s all worth it for his lord’s approval. Even if he has to do the actual heavy lifting in the end after Sir Winston gets greedy. He just eats it and eats it and then goes back home without complaining. Then at the end of his life he gets to be Duke Penistone’s gardener in Heaven.
Sam does end up getting rewarded quite generously on his return at least. Far better than many of the others
>calls Frodo a Mary Sue
>not Aragorn who can take on monsters
>not Legolas who is flawless in everything
>not Gandalf who is a literal God
Frodo a Mary Sue
Is a mary sue
>>not Aragorn who can take on monsters
Ubermensch whos four-fathers literally fought monsters to shape the world
>>not Legolas who is flawless in everything
An elf who is flawless gets shade for being just that
>>not Gandalf who is a literal God
Is a literal God
>Aragorn is one of the Dúnedain
>Legolas is a literal Elf prince
>Gandalf is an angel like being, not a god
Get good chuddy buddy, none of them qualify as a Mary Sue.
His point was that they're closer to the definition of a Mary Sue than Frodo you absolute moron.
How can he be a mary sue if he fricks everything up and needs a team of people around him to push him to victory? you make no fricking sense
Ok for all you midwits:
>here you Frodo you are now the richest man in middle earth
>here is hobbiton bequeathed to you
>here you go Frodo the most powerful ring in the world, only you are immune to it
>oh what's that? Tom Bombadil the most powerful wizard in history likes Frodo and takes him in especially
>looky looky here Frodo was stabbed by the head of the Witch Kings but somehow Frodo survives with no damage...
>what's that, Enron the most powerful Elf of all time loves Frodo..shocking
>here you go Frodo a vest of pure meethril which is the most rare metal ever made, in case you need it to protect you from caves trolls
>survives a cave troll blunt force hammer to his chest thanks to a vest
This is before we even get 1/2 way through the first movie. Do you really want me to keep going to embarrass you all?
Heh
LotRgays btfo. Post more
Shut up samegay gary stu
>fails his quest to destroy the ring himself
>succumbs to it's power
>it only gets destroyed by other forces against his wishes
And yet he still wins =Mary sue
Mary Sues don't have character flaws and drive the plot by way of the perfection inherent to their character. You don't know what "Mary Sue" entails.
That's the point. He is flawless even in his failures
Dont you see the implication
Just wanna take this opportunity to say Elves are a real bunch of uppity gays and I hate them
These movies were so disappointing, but this casting was a literal 11/10.
What? He was terrible. And i like him as an actor
I liked his performance because he was fae, inscrutable, arrogant, and clearly “darkened” by the corrupting touch of dragonfire.
Sauron is the ultimate gary stu. The fricker has lost a dozen times but is still almost conquering all of middle earth thousands of years later