Is Amber too jarring for anybody else now? Look I get it, she was manipulative toxic c**t in Season 1, one of the worst characters in the show. And I'm glad they dialed that shit back, but it feels like she got a lobotomy from how she acts now
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It doesn't matter you must like the strong independent black woman representation
But she's not a strong independent black woman anymore, she's submissive and supportive and lets Mark do whatever he wants
And that's a good thing. It shows c**ts can change for the better if you dick them down hard enough
>Amber was a obnoxious b***h before Viltrumite wiener
>Becomes a loving and supporting gf after the Viltrumite wiener
Really makes you think.
But she's had Viltrumite wiener for a while and was a b***h for the bulk of it.
They only fricked the last issue.
The reverse happens to Anissa.
Honestly - everyone mellows the frick out after getting laid.
>Ugh my boyfriend is saving the world again
Omni man just casually kills thousands of people and destroys a city
>Shit maybe I should let mark be a superhero, yeah
so she improved as a character
As long as they’re not purposely making people ugly who cares about the skin color
I don’t think anon’s complaining about her race as much as he’s pointing out that modern writers like to use race or gender as a shield to defend their shit character’s shit actions these days.
What did she even do that was so wrong?
Your statement confuses me. Why are you directly contradicting yourself?
she's ugly though (as 90% of black women)
this makes me sad for some reason
why?
i didn't choose to be ugly and neither did black women.
characters like Amber do black women zero (0) (zeeeero) favors IRL, they're trying to drop the c**t look and are consistently ranked as the least desirable group of women
submissive and friendly is the smart play right now until that perception changes
At this point i'm convinced that everyone calling Amber a c**t wither can't think for themselves or is a samegay.
she was a c**t in season 1, she's way better now, thankfully for black women everywhere
>At this point i'm convinced that everyone calling Amber a c**t wither can't think for themselves or is a samegay.
That's just you projecting because you're too stupid to see bad-writing. Amber's a c**t because the S1e7 Reveal-Scene wrote her into being a c**t: she was justified and sympathizable (?) from S1e1 to S1e6. Thankfully, they're slowly making her better (and unfortunately making other female characters worse) in S2.
Yeah, they're making her better but remain cautious. Remember that it took only one scene to ruin her in S1.
I don't really care, she's a filler character. I'm glad they toned her down and now I'm just patiently waiting until she gets cucked by Eve
This panel is too iconic for them to not adapt when Eve's time happens
You're insane if you think that's going to happen. You're media illiterate if you think the show's tone would even allow for that
You're both stupid. Amber obviously sympathizes with Mark seeing that he's going through some hard shit. Also we just saw in the latest episode that she doesn't want him to use baby on her. There goes your lobotomy criticism, right out the door!
I always wonder what it must be like to think you're the smartest person in the room but secretly you're the dumbest.
is this post an encapsulation of that?
>No argument
Your search is over buddy! You're at peak Dunning Kruger
Huh, I guess your post really is an encapsulation of being moronic
>still no argument
I accept your concession
yes he is
this is terminally online Twitter troon that does nothing but stalk the board for any threads about amber to argue in bad faith
don't waste your time on him
>Also we just saw in the latest episode that she doesn't want him to use baby on her.
MARK used BABY!
... It's super effective!
>You're insane if you think that's going to happen. You're media illiterate if you think the show's tone would even allow for that
What? A rebound relationship? I haven't read the comic so I only have that one panel anon posted for context.
EVEN in that comic, Amber comes off super callous and self centered which does not fit Amber in the show at ALL.
OK, but that doesn't answer my question. Why can't the scene anon posted happen in the show?
Amber, Mark, and Eve hang out. They are friends. It would be out of character for her to disregard that and act like she waiting for Mark and Amber to break up the whole time
>It would be out of character for her to disregard that and act like she waiting for Mark and Amber to break up the whole time
It's more common than you think, girl groups really are chaos when it comes to guys and they don't care if it's their friend's ex.
Yeah I'm sure "move to the woods so she has more time to help people" Eve would suddenly turn into a mean girl for Mark's dick
Same as the comics, moron
>didn't read the comic
Are you autistic? Eve in the show would not say what comic Eve said, you fricking idiot
You should really read the comic, you're one dumb and ignorant b***h lol
You're talking to someone that thinks it's "mean" for Eve to date Mark when he's single, I don't think you can reason with their sheer stupidity.
Holy shit you dumb fricks. How socially inept are you? There is an closeness between Amber and Eve in the show. Eve is not hankering for Mark and waiting for him and Amber to break up. Eve supported Amber when she was ready to give up on Mark. She is clearly a Mamber stan. It would make no sense for Eve to SAY what comic Eve said
Frick off you disingenuous piece of subhuman garbage
You have embarrassingly low intelligence.
>no argument
I accept your concession fricknugget
You've already lost
>gets cornered
>"n-n-no argument! no argument! I win! you lose!"
go back to twitter, troon
I disagree
no argument, no problem
NTA but you seem pretty dumb to be honest, you don't seem to understand how people actually behave
And some incel on Cinemaphile does? Frick off
>no argument
I dont care about your fanfiction.
You have no valid opinion so you're truly a dumb b***h
And you have no valid argument probably because you're too emotional to understand it. I'm not your therapist. Take meds. I'm done
The comic already proves you wrong, you never had a leg ot stand on
Eve is snatching up Mark instantly and Amber goes off to get beat and abused. This is the reality you live in, cope and seethe.
>fanfiction
>the official comic that the series is based off of
lol
>you don't seem to understand how people actually behave
This is a basic requirement for Cinemaphile use.
>It's mean to date someone
Are you really this stupid?
Amber makes her choice, she doesn't want to date Mark anymore and she hooks up with a guy that beats her and stays with him. That's how it goes down, cope.
>she hooks up with a guy that beats her and stays with him
Still trying to wrap my head around someone who can literally unmake a human being letting themselves get battered like a catfish fillet.
...Amber is Mark's girlfriend, Eve is the one in pink and goes by Atom eve.
Also, Eve can't use her powers on human beings except in one specific circumstance
>"move to the woods so she has more time to help people" Eve
Solitude in the forest does strange things to you.
>tfw one of my ex’s friends pulled this and was disturbingly aggressive about it
People can say what they want about guys but women can be just as bad, if not worse. Over the course of a month I went from seeing and treating her like my little sister to actively avoiding her because she started to subtly hint at possibly plucking at some strings that led to my breakup.
>What? A rebound relationship? I haven't read the comic so I only have that one panel anon posted for context.
It's been a while since I read it, but from what I recall, basically Mark and Eve were getting really close and pretty much both acknowledged they were into each other, but Mark was still with Amber at that point, then Mark realizes that the two of them have been drifting apart recently because she's a normal person and he's been way more focused on superhero shit so they've pretty much been going through the motions and barely seeing each other. Mark goes to talk to Amber about it, finds she's pretty much (but not quite) cheating on him with college dudebro guy she's been hanging around a lot who's been pressuring her to break up with Mark because he's never around and from his perspective seems like a really shitty dude, so Mark basically tells her it's cool she can go frick that dude because they've been done for a while now, and they break it off amicably.
Then
happens.
Eve's character model morphed in such a bizarre way as the comic went on.
imagine thinking these writers have any intention of actually writing Amber out of the show, Eve is gonna end up dating fricking Bulletproof or something.
you shut your prostitute mouth with bullshit like that
Listen Black person, I don't want it but you know I'm right.
It would alter way too much, it's too far even for them
Nothing is too far for them, look at what they fricking did to The Boys
Eve is just a better MJ
You mean inferior MJ
I know it's not what you were referencing at all, but imagine a one-off MJ focused story set during the Superior Spider-Man storyline about MJ's life falling apart without Peter called "The Inferior Mary-Jane" in the Superior Spider-Man sort of titling font stuff, that would be extremely funny and wouldn't be fodder for a whole entire storyline but a one-off about how much she relied on Peter and how much she needs to move on without him would be pretty cool
I don’t want mark to date atom eve she is used goods that and all of her family drama really sucks so if I have to watch an increase and that I think I’m over the show then again, I’m gonna be over the show anyway once they start doing the multi-verse stuff also I’m just saying would it make more sense since Robert Kirkman said he wanted to redo a lot of the major themes of the comic book that Amber and Mark stay dating since they’ve given Amber an entire change, also mainly because the way it’s played out in the comics between Mark and atom eve is gay in moronic
Incel babble.
>she is used goods
Only until she gets the ol' viltrumite handshake from Conquest, she completely heals herself
Yeah she does come across as a little bit lobotomized, it kind of feels like there's characterization and writing that they would want to do for her, but are unable to because they're terrified the audience would call her a c**t. Like someone who used to talk shit but then got decked one time and now halts themselves every time they feel like talking shit, like there were so many little moments where season 1 amber would have said something memorable or original, even if infuriating, and now she's got like a glassy thousand island stare and offers to frick mark. Kind of a weird direction to go in with your bold, powerful and independent female love interest. She said basically zero nonessential lines in the most recent episode.
It's a shame how writers nowadays allow what they want for a story and their visions to be corrupted by reactionaries online.
Still weird to me that they think people will just be cool with her now that they’ve dialed the c**tyness back. Not sure if they’re trying to over correct what they did in season one but I doubt it’ll offset all the damage done. You don’t write someone that horrendously awful, gloss over their wrongdoings by making them “forgive” someone else with reasonable concerns and obligations without ever apologizing for their own actions when they themselves were a complete shithead, and have other characters bend over backwards to take that character’s side, and expect people to go “well I guess they’re ok now!”. Maybe they’ll address her shittiness later or have mark absolutely verbally BTFO her but we’ll see.
Why isnt she a light skin black?
What
God hates us.
>us
no just you, whites are minorities and thank God for that
It just keeps getting funnier
The characterization for Amber has been so miss and hit that I find it jarring in general to think it's the same fricking character but we have actual people online saying it's character growth shilling trash writing.
It's kinda funny how hard they backtracked to the point she's a totally diffrent character.
Which is weird because Eve no matter what is going to end up being the end game.
Like at best they'll milk her as long as possible out of spite but she's still a human at the end of the day and by the narratives own established logic Eve is the only woman (that isn't another Viltrumite) that can live as long as Mark (longer even).
I don't think she's a different character. They just had a complete character arc off screen for her.
I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a "I changed because I was scared of you and thought if I made you happy being someone I'm not that maybe you wouldn't do what your father did" type of shit to explain the change
Because they just changed her without acknowledging the shit that made everyone hate her in the first place
What's the point
this is your fanbase
>trust your highschool girlfriend you barely know with a very important secret
>end up fighting with her over some inane shit at some point
>girlfriend now has the ammunition to completely and utterly frick you over on a whim if she’s mad enough
I’m convinced that anyone who can’t see how this is a scenario that can unfold when risking sharing very important information isn’t actually a human being. It’s the equivalent of having millions in an offshore account and trusting an IRS agent you met and got married to during a business trip in Vegas with information about its existence. You slip up with them even once and you’re going to be fricked so hard it’ll make Sasha Grey look celibate.
After half a year you'd presumably know whether she was enough of a psycho to endanger your life and family and frick over your world-saving gig out of petty spite.
Believe me, people hide their true personalities very well, they only show their true faces when things go wrong for them.
no you wouldn't, lmao. This is why divorce rates are so fricking high, zoomers get married after 8 months together thinking they've been through thick and thin.
Getting a divorce and getting your ex's family killed aren't really equivalent.
Most people won’t stop to think about that aspect of sharing a secret identity with the world if they’re truly pissed. They’ll usually think either of the inconveniences (paparazzis, creepy fans, general life hassles) it’ll cause their ex or how much fame they’d get as their ex’s ex. The “oh frick I might’ve just gotten a family killed” probably doesn’t set in until after they cool down and realize the gravity of the frick up they just made
You have statistics on spies outed by jilted lovers, or you're just talking out of your ass?
If we’re talking government spies those individuals with them either never know or if they do typically have a very clear understanding of the ramifications of outing a spy. Either they’ll get tossed in the slam for threatening national security or unpersoned by some very, very angry figureheads. If we’re taking a freelancer then that’s how you get shot in the back of the head and dumped in a cornfield somewhere
and that's not what we're talking about strawman. I said you don't know somebody after 8 months, to say you'd know their true selves after 6 is ridiculous
>and that's not what we're talking about strawman.
>After half a year you'd presumably know whether she was enough of a psycho to endanger your life and family and frick over your world-saving gig out of petty spite.
That's precisely what we're talking about, are you sundowning?
woah it's almost like more than one person if fricking replying to you!!!!
No, it isn't. It's like you replied to me, then I replied to you, and then you clean forgot what the frick we were talking about.
>anon can't understand that Cinemaphile isn't one person
good way of exposing yourself tourist
You never know someone until you’ve lived with them for at least a year, and you never truly know them until they’re either blindly drunk or dying.
This was done rather nice with the Lois proxy and suicdies
Poor Phelous.
His identity is a big deal. If it looks like she will blab, Mark’s choice is to kill Amber on the spot, or accept anyone he fights and doesn’t kill can go after his mother as a reprisal.
Would you give a woman you’ve been dating six months complete control of your financials? Because that’s a much smaller risk.
True answer: I wouldn't be using my super powers for the "greater good" o punching bad guys.
If I continue down this path: Not going to be dating to begin with. One slip up on my part and she'll know who I am. Makes more sense to just date other supers.
>Makes more sense to just date other supers.
How does this avoid the risk? If someone's dumb or vengeful enough to out you, tit for tat isn't going to stop them.
You date exclusively supers then they already understand the risk of the hero life and also have something to lose with a public ID. You could argue they could go vengeful and leak it to the press in secret but we're going beyond the intial scenario.
Compared to a normie you either have to reveal up front so they know what they are getting into risk wise or hide it for X months/years and hope they are cool with your reasons and all those lies you told.
But now we saved 5 min 🙂
>feels like she got a lobotomy
good
>tweets from a krakoa era fan
I REST MY FRICKING CASE
>That Disingenuous Strawman
Lmao, frick that dishonest Twitter phakkit. NO ONE, AND I MEAN NO ONE, HAD A PROBLEM WITH AMBER BEING FRUSTRATED WITH MARK'S DISAPPEARANCES WHEN THE AUDIENCE ASSUMED AMBER DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS INVINCIBLE.
The Audience started to fricking hate Amber in that scene in S1E6 when Bad-Writing made her illogically a character that figured out her BF was a super-hero a long time before he officially told her. That changes everything in past to a new perspective.
Amber is frustrated Mark didn't keep his promise to help her in the soup-kitchen but she knew he nearly got killed by Battle-Beast when he was trying to help Titan take down his Criminal-Empire boss?
Amber was fricking infuriated to the point of giving Mark the Silent-Treatment and nearly-cheated on him at a Frat-House because he "abandoned her and his friends" when the first Reanimen attacked; yet she knew he was Invincible coming back to stop the Reanimen from killing her and said friends? SO SHE'S JUST CAUSING DRAMA AND ISSUES FOR NO REASON.
Bro, anyone who defends S1 Amber is a bonafide moron - no ifs, ands, buts about it. I'll give this dude credit for not going with the stupid "They hate Amber cause she's a Black Woman". However, people literally hate the frick out of S1 Amber because she's simply illogically badly written once S1E6 comes around.
Frick this unjustly smug moron.
Not that Anon but i agree with her.
I don't care if someone's a hero, if they can't make time or are too busy to be with their friends and loved ones then said hero does not have to be apart of their lives and they are allowed to be upset with the hero.
It's apart of the job as a hero that you can't have the best of both worlds, you can't have it both ways and Mark just has to deal with that.
Not to mention him getting himself in danger and thus worrying his friends and loved ones by bringing himself more harm than necessary. It's like like he's the only hero in town, there are other who can handle the situations so it wouldn't be a big deal if he took a vacation or at least a day off.
>Not that Anon but i agree with her.
>I don't care if someone's a hero, if they can't make time or are too busy to be with their friends and loved ones then said hero does not have to be apart of their lives and they are allowed to be upset with the hero.
>It's apart of the job as a hero that you can't have the best of both worlds, you can't have it both ways and Mark just has to deal with that.
That's OK - not the problem with Badly-Written Amber.
>Not to mention him getting himself in danger and thus worrying his friends and loved ones by bringing himself more harm than necessary. It's like like he's the only hero in town, there are other who can handle the situations so it wouldn't be a big deal if he took a vacation or at least a day off.
That's not what happened. The Reaniman came out of nowhere from the underground underneath the college fountain. Mark, Amber, and friends were literally just chilling at the college to see how it was like: Mark didn't put himself nor them in danger.
Again, the issue is that Amber was later written (the next episode) to be aware that Mark is Invincible. So that means she saw Mark disappear as Mark and then come back as Invincible to stop/kill the Reaniman that almost killed her as well as their friends. SO WHY THE FRICK DID SHE GET MAD THAT "HE ABANDON THEM" WHEN SHE KNEW HE CAME BACK AS INVINCIBLE TO SAVE THEM.
The frustrating problem with Amber is that they wrote her badly into a crazy illogical self-centered b***h. She was completely justified in S1E6 to be confused and angry af because the audience assumed she didn't know Mark was Invincible. Then in S1E7 they wrote her as knowing he was Invincible at that moment: SO SHE LITERALLY GOT ANGRY, PUNISHED HIM, AND ALMOST CHEATED ON HIM FOR NO FRICKING LOGICAL REASON.
Bro, even multiple Black Creators shit on Amber and hate her:
First of all i would like to thank you for being polite. I have decided to just have a (Hopefully) pleasant discussion about this with you and just politely ignore everyone else.
>That's OK - not the problem with Badly-Written Amber.
I'll get back to this.
>That's not what happened. The Reaniman came out of nowhere from the underground underneath the college fountain. Mark, Amber, and friends were literally just chilling at the college to see how it was like: Mark didn't put himself nor them in danger.
I was speaking in general. If that was the only instance then yeah sure but there are multiple more times in his, and any usual hero's, life where what i said can apply.
>Again, the issue is that Amber was later written (the next episode) to be aware that Mark is Invincible.
This was in the same season, next episode, the way these cartoons work is that every episode and script is usual written months if not years in advance so those two episodes were no doubt written at the same time, so she wasn't written like that "later", she was written like that at the exact same time.
>So that means she saw Mark disappear as Mark and then come back as Invincible to stop/kill the Reaniman that almost killed her as well as their friends. SO WHY THE FRICK DID SHE GET MAD THAT "HE ABANDON THEM" WHEN SHE KNEW HE CAME BACK AS INVINCIBLE TO SAVE THEM.
Again, this isn't the only example. It's clearly been something that was building up until it reached its apex.
I'll get more into this later.
>The frustrating problem with Amber is that they wrote her badly into a crazy illogical self-centered b***h. She was completely justified in S1E6 to be confused and angry af because the audience assumed she didn't know Mark was Invincible. Then in S1E7 they wrote her as knowing he was Invincible at that moment
OK it's time to get back to the "That's OK - not the problem with Badly-Written Amber." thing.
I already understood this from your last post, in fact what i mentioned in my reply even applies to what you said about her here.
Honestly if what i brought up isn't the problem, then i don't see any of that as a problem either.
>SO SHE LITERALLY GOT ANGRY
What i said in my first reply to you also applies here but it's also now time to return to the "It's clearly been something that was building up until it reached its apex." thing.
The term "Straw that broke the camel's back" applies here and honestly it's something i relate to. Anger and frustration is something that builds up over time and when someone just can't hold it in anymore, when it gets built up to its peak, then any straw can and will break that camel's back, even if it doesn't make sense to anyone else it'll still be what the person with so much pent up frustration will have be their breaking point, it's honestly normal human behavior that i'm sure everyone has dealt with.
And don't forget that everyone handles situations differently, what seem ridiculous to you will make sense to others and what makes sense to you will seem ridiculous to others. We shouldn't judge others for going against our personal moral standards or what we personally think is morally acceptable because everyone has their own different morals, especially when it comes to a cartoon.
Not to mention that Amber did go back to Mark after he got damaged and stuck with him after it all. (Something those who hate Amber always seem to neglect to mention) At the end of the day it was just a rocky bump in their relationship that both of them got over, both of them are happy together and got over it so why can't the audience get over it as well?
>PUNISHED HIM
How did she punish him? I might be forgetting something but i don't see how he got punished by her in any way.
>AND ALMOST CHEATED ON HIM
Yeah, almost but she didn't. She knew it wasn't right so she didn't do it. Why get mad at her as if she did screw around with another guy? It's like getting made at someone who almost robbed a house. Yeah that's a bad thing to do but they didn't go through with because they know that it's not the right thing to do.
>FOR NO FRICKING LOGICAL REASON.
I'm not going to repeat myself so everything i have said applies here.
>Bro, even multiple Black Creators shit on Amber and hate her:
OK. Don't know what race has to do with this but OK. Never even implied that i think she was hated on due to race.
Also if we're going to discuss this further i should let you know that for me the whole Amber debate goes deeper than this. Although i don't feel comfortable with you enough to go into every detail (No offence i'm sure you're a good guy) there are two of those deeper things i'd like to get into now.
One is creative freedom. No matter what, no what the context, no matter the reason, i have always been against writer, creators, artists, etc changing their vision due to online discorse. It goes against creative freedom that those people behind the shows should have and they should be able to stick with their visions and freedoms without feeling like it's being threatened or being forced to change directions. I have seen this multiple times with not just cartoons but with every part of the entertainment industry and it sucks to see every time.
The second deeper thing i wanna get into is just the overreaction i feel it has been. To give an example, you know of Mr. Enter right? I'm going to assume you're at least aware of the guy. I remember in his olden days he'd gets so pissed of at cartoons, going into autistic rants and getting mad at Patrick Star for not reaching his unreasonably high standards of morality. That's what i feel happened with the Amber situation, a lot of autistic anger. It's like watching that guy ranting about Patrick but on a whole other level. And no offence but i got the same feeling when i read your post when you put those words in all caps to give the feeling of yelling.
I'm sure you know why Mr. Enter's autistic SpongeBob rants are looked down upon and mocked nowadays so i hope i don't have to explain why all these Amber rants make me feel the same way.
A few jokes about it is fine but entire video essays is, to put it politely, too far, especially to make a point that can be get across within less than a minute.
>She knew it wasn't right so she didn't do it
That guy she almost cheated with had a girlfriend and wasn't interested in her. It wasn't her choice
IIRC The show said, it wouldn't even be cheating bc Amber ended their relationship by then and didn't tell Mark. wtf Mark's supposed to be in the wrong for not picking up the clues from that. Then all his friends get mad at him for not being a mind reader
(not you anon) It's funny how quickly her season 1 defenders changed their tune with this new season
>Yeah, okay. So she was terrible but she's different now! Why are you still mad?
Because it's bad writing. It's not a natural progression. She didn't grow or confront her flaws, they just stopped writing them.
But with these new episodes, since I like this show, I'm ready to be proven wrong
>This was in the same season, next episode, the way these cartoons work is that every episode and script is usual written months if not years in advance so those two episodes were no doubt written at the same time, so she wasn't written like that "later", she was written like that at the exact same time.
This might be the most moronic thing I've read in a while
that's not even what the other anon meant by "later written" either
Christ this guy is a fricking joke
Based and correct
Shut up Black person c**t
They unironically admit they failed to actually check what they were writing amongst themselves during S1.
>WAH, I DON'T LIKE AMBER!
>showrunners listen to complaints and pivot her character to be nicer
>WAH, SHE'S TOO DIFFERENT NOW!
Jump off a fricking cliff.
This is better than her being a Thunder c**t. But it’s essentially giving her a new personality with no explanation. They should have had her actually be called out in season 1 and reflect on her own bullshit, but she was obviously written as being in the right in season 1 because le strong woman never wrong. The backlash made them default to writing her as a straight adaption of the comics other than being race swapped and a social activist.
>This is better than her being a Thunder c**t. But it’s essentially giving her a new personality with no explanation
Why are you lying? Amber was always nice.
Until something mildly inconvenienced her. Like mark supposedly getting hit by a bus.
>Mark failed to keep her promises to her with no good alibi
>What the frick, why is she mad?!
>Mark shows up looking half dead and says he was hit by a bus
>wtf why doesn’t he have a better reason!
Stop acting moronic you swine in human clothing.
>Amber knows Mark is Invincible
>Still acts like she doesn't and gaslights him into thinking he's a coward in front of all his friends.
This. b***h says she wanted to give him the chance to admit it but why the hell would he? Highschool and college relationships in the modern age don’t typically last and the last thing any sane man would want is a damaging secret in the hands of someone he doesn’t implicitly know and trust. Short of being an absolute psychopath and sitting her down to threaten to pop her head off her shoulders like a bottle cap if the word ever gets out he has no way of knowing if she’d spill the secret if they broke up.
Yep, he goes off to save her, his friends, and their new college from being destroyed, comes back, and (with the knowledge he was the one who saved them), goes "HOW COULD YOU LEAVE US ALONE!?"
>Why is she still mad after understanding he had very good reasons he couldn't be with her all the time
Why does she act like she deserves to know all his deepest secrets when they are not even married? Why couldn't she understand that non powered girlfriends of super heroes are easy hostages?
>Why does she act like she deserves to know all his deepest secrets when they are not even married?
Not true but if someone was a superhero, you'd want to know. I mean its not like villains target hero's families or anything, right?!
Yeah I'm sure you would be fine if your partner came home with black eyes repeatedly with no good reason and actively avoiding talking about it but you wouldn't have a partner
>y-you don’t have a partner!
Pathetic as your response is you’re right but not in the way you’d think. Freshly single after a two year relationship. I wouldn’t be fine seeing that, but I also wouldn’t sperg out about it because I’d trust them to tell me about it in time unless they were showing signs of severe mental trauma over it.
>I’d trust them to tell me about it in time
Come on man. You're better than that. Most people would feel jerked around or insignificant
I’ve been in a similar situation and all I felt was concern before I was told what happened. Girlfriend showed up with a swollen lip and brushed it off as a fall when asked. She started to shut down when pressed so I let it simmer and we carried on as usual until we reached a point where she eventually opened up and told me that her step father had been beating her and her mother and she didn’t know how I’d react to the news. One extremely narrowly avoided assault charge later and several stitches in some of my knuckles later and even though we aren’t together we’re still good friends and she trusts me. Or at least she trusts that I have a really good left hook.
>I have a really good left hook.
Not really if you needed stitches in your knuckles.
Teeth can cut no matter how good your hook is if they catch your skin while said skin is moving very fast. I learned that and about the wonderful world of antibiotics because of that. I also learned punching dip chewers in the mouth is a very bad idea because despite my best efforts the fricking cut still got infected.
>Teeth can cut no matter how good your hook is if they catch your skin while said skin is moving very fast.
You lacked accuracy. Your own blow put you in stitches. Very sub-par hook.
Hey frick you guy I still had the basics down. My hook was at least above par for a random untrained moron throwing punches at another untrained moron.
At any rate you learned not to punch people in the mouth which is something many people don't know, so you're above par now.
I mean maybe Amber could have been more sympathetic to mark considering she saved him from a bully but she's not wrong for being mad. It is what it is
If he had a a gun He could have legally killed you, that was foolish anime protagonist
He absolutely could have. No one can say it was a smart move. Satisfying though.
Take that logic to next step. Mark gets ass kicked and bad guy id's him. Now even without Mark knowing Amber can be a target in an arrangement she might not have agreed to if she knew Mark was hero
Hell you could argue Mark does this to every woman whose dick he puts it into and he is at fault
But when she knew she stayed after the fact. By your logic he should tell her and every woman he decides to hook up with on day one. Real great idea there chief.
I'm not the one b***hing on her heel turn. The s2 solution is fine for a low key char
The true solution is that Mark can't have his cake and be Jesus too. You don't get to date when one slip can have disastrous results. Not without consent or other heroes
Is it really b***hing though? There was no character development to show how we got here and it’s a weird heel turn. One second she’s a gaslighting b***h and the next she’s the comic book version. No in story explaination, no show of how we got here, no satisfaction of seeing her get verbally BTFO and learning from it to grow as a person. Minor character or not if you aren’t going to write a good character you shouldn’t bother including them in the story.
The alternative is wasting screen time showing or flash backing to them coming to an understanding. And then doing that is going to invite more critique over which one is the bigger cuck.
The answer is still mark for taking her back.
>Calarts moron is moronic
>calarts pic
thank you for letting me know your opinion is irrelevant from the get go
>Calarts picrel poster is a moron
Everytime
>showrunners drop their OC donut steel and we get back to the comic
>I love it
You are the worst Starposter.
Kinda shocked they didn’t double down and make her even worse.
They actually listened to the fans and threw in the towel and just adapted her comic book personality 1 for 1.
I’m fine with it she made every scene she was in unwatchable in S1 and she’s ultimately a inconsequential character so frick it.
They clearly did a 180 front season one and honestly? Yes, it's jarring. But it's way better. It's not something easy to come to grips with but it's more important that your super hero boyfriend go potentially save billions instead of being around to date you. I feel like that's what they wanted to go with initially but they fricked up with the whole "I knew you were Invincible all along and instead of relating to you and being honest I decided to be a c**t". Whoever wrote Amber in season one forgot to have her be likeable beyond "muh community service". I know Amber isn't built to last but I'd rather her be suddenly understanding and supportive instead of continuing to be a b***h.
You will enjoy your talking sperm bank gayon
Yeah that "never apologize for saving lives" line is way too obvious a 180 for not even acknowledging she was wrong
The point is that the damage has been done. Amber was too c**ty and the correction had to be severe, but you can't erase Season 1. I can't understand why they fricked up so bad in the first place, what were they thinking?
How many high school girlfriends remain permanent life partners? Not many. It's a volatile period where people change drastically and brains aren't developed fully
ok but will they adapt *that* issue? you know the one...
hard to say
If it was a woman? No way in hell. But Male rape is seen as more comedic in the industry so they might play it up here for shock value
Or they might make her intentions clear and then something stops her right before she does it
It blows my mind that people actually buy comics that are drawn like this.
"People" who buy comicslop have no standards
post art. If it's not better looking I don't wanna hear it
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This scene destroyed Amber forever as a character too
>Dumps him and ghosts him
>suddenly, after the Omni Man shit, rushes over and kisses him despite them not being together
>"GUESS I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE BEING LIED TOO!"
>manipulates Mark at his lowest point into getting back together
>doesn't even say "I'm sorry"
The person who wrote that must've had a field day knowing how much people would hate it
I still remember these black reactors on YT who watched Invincible shit on Amber and tell Mark to not get back with her.
the viltrumites don't feel powerful/threatening.
they hyped up omniman but even he struggled against that beast cecil summoned and "juiced up".
of course, invincible doesn't feel strong either. so i'm not really scared of the viltrumites based on their feats. i'm only scared of them for meta reasons like spoilers, and because i know the story wants me to be scared of them.
i hate it when shows do this. i bet the viltrumites feel more powerful in the comics.
They keep showing Mark getting the piss beat out of him, but no one seems to have any idea how to actually kill him. They did frick up with Omni Man vs the original Guardians though since he shit all over them in the comics and it wasn’t even close
>the viltrumites don't feel powerful/threatening.
Yeah, this is a big problem with all of the "improvements" they made to season one. They wanted to draw out the mystery shit about Omni-Man being bad, but it just made him feel less threatening and everyone else seem like a fricking moron.
It’s for the best.
They made her to big of a c**t in season one.
I just hope Markitect is on the show.
Jesus fricking Christ there is no pleasing you buttholes, is there? You just find things to hate for the sake of it.
>NOOOO! THINGS NEEDS TO BE 100% OR 0%!!!!
Maybe some people would like 50%
>reddit and morty
nevermind, you showed me your opinion is worthless, I apologize
Trying to repaint the speedbump to make it more appealing before it disappears into the background forever to get smacked around isn't going to impress anyone my man, why bother? At least when she's b***hy it makes more sense when they break up and Eve moves in to take advantage of Amber's stupidity.
The change in attitude is welcome, the fact it comes out of nowhere isn’t. It’d take 15seconds for her to apologize.
They black swapped her and made her a b***h in the first place. The damage is irreversible
invincible was already shit adding blacks just made it more shit.
when does mark get as strong as nolan
Betcha this is so that people will still complain
The reaction to Amber in season 1 was an overreaction. The complaints were just the result of humanity being too sensitive nowadays with people always freaking out whenever a character doesn't reach their unrealistic standards of morality.
If the show was made in the 2000s then no one would be complaining. I should know because characters like Sam exists.
Sam never did anything as bad as Amber
>People keep claiming Amber has done some of the worst stuff ever
>Yet they never even say what she's done that's so bad
You're either moronic or trolling, it's been posted multiple times already in this thread alone
Thread is too long so i didn't read all of it and i don't plan to read all of it.
The implication that you think a show has to be for adults to be good just reeks of of the "I only watch adult shows or else i won't feel like an adult" mentality.
The majority of the cartoon posted here are for kids so why are you on this board?
>the implication that blah blah blah
Danny Phantom was a mediocre children's cartoon. Deal with it
The fact that you're writing off what i have to say in such a way makes me feel like you're just trying to act more mature than you actually are.
>tries to pull the "Actually I'm more mature than you, you're writing off what I said"
>last post literally was "UH yeah no I'm not reading this thread to get my answer, also here's a random implication that has no evidence"
Yep, tells me everything I need to know about you
I never said any of that, don't twist my words.
All i'm saying is that you're views of "Kids cartoons bad because they're for kids. Adult cartoons good because they're for adults" comes of as you trying to validate your own maturity.
And you're not even brave enough to back yourself up, instead you're doing your best to avoid confrontation with me.
>I never said any of that
and here's you saying all of that, adios frick boy
Yeah the thread is too long and i just don't feel like reading all of it.
That's not comparable to you writing off something as mediocre just for being made for kids.
Why is frick boy still replying? Doesn't he have another kid's show to jack off to or something?
Again, if this is how you feel then why are you even on Cinemaphile in the first place?
>Too afraid to reply directly
So yeah, you are trying to avoid conflict with me.
>frick boy is still replying to me
guess the latest Dora the Explorer thread got 404d if he isn't spamming autism over there instead of here
He is 100% right. The reason for Amber hate has always been an overblown ape out. Simple as. She was a b***h for a scene that's it.
Its not just that, it's that she was also portrayed to be some how correct to act like that and doesn't need to reflect or apologize
Yeah so? This happens with a lot of characters. What she did wasn't even so bad. She just dumped Mark for reasonable reasons and she came back to him soon after. (Something people who hate on her always fail to bring up)
Huh? People complain about Sam being a c**t all the time.
That's the vast minority though, as well as Sam never having any video essays being made about her.
because one is a mediocre children's cartoon and the other is an actual good show for adults called Invincible
It seems like they're really trying to play up that she feels guilty for being such a c**t since Mark immediately went on to save the Earth from takeover by his dad, got the living frick beat out of him, and is very clearly going through severe PTSD from watching so many people die (from his point of view) because of his actions.
It is jarring as frick though yeah, because her personality took a complete 180 immediately, but we still have the leftovers of the writers' original vision of Amber as the untouchable saint from season one, like the constant mentions of how she's doing charity work or political activism or whatever. So in season one she felt like an unintentional parody of the moronic writers' view of a perfect person who in reality is just kind of a fricking b***h, but now she's just like an empty shell of a character who only exists to both be perfect and support Mark unconditionally so as to not come off as a b***h.
This is kind of exactly my problem with most of the changes the show makes to the comic. They focus really hard on trying to flesh out aspects and characters that never needed it, and so they end up as these weird additions to the story that just don't fit. Comic Amber was just a regular girl, that was literally her whole point, she was the normal person who Mark dated and we got to see how the difference between his world and hers made things difficult. It was nothing groundbreaking, but she also wasn't a major part of the story so that was fine. I feel like they're doing the same thing with Mark's mom, where they're focusing so hard on giving her more to do and exploring her point of view that it takes away from what happened in the comic, where Mark would be dealing with his own shit all the time then randomly he'd get a really jarring glimpse into how hard his mom was taking things like with her getting wasted and going off on his about why he made Nolan leave.
All of these people complaining about Amber and the writers sound all the same. Same words, same attitude, same blog posting, same feeling of hatred towards a cartoon character, etc.
I'm convinced that most of this thread is just a samegay.
oh, cry me a river twitter troon
people aren't agreeing with you because your arguments are stupid
no amount of b***hing and complaining is going to change that
The way you speak feels like you're a newbie trying to fit in.
Seriously, calling everything you disagree with "Twitter" is just trying too hard to fit in.
Then why is the thread repeating itself like a YouTube comment section.
Not to mention that not everyone agrees with you people as evidenced by the multiple people in this thread who are saying that people were overreacting.
Wow, all the people who dislike the writing agree about why, that's crazy man.
You're just repeating yourself so i'll point you to
Now you're using buzzwords such as "Dilate".
You're not helping yourself here.
the way you act feels like a twitter troon trying to fit in
>you're not fitting in! newbie! newbie!
what's wrong? did you forget to dilate today?
>Then why is the thread repeating itself like a YouTube comment section.
>Uh, if people agree about something then why does it get posted over and over?
Like i said, same words, same attitude, same blog posting method, same hatred, etc.
No way this many people would make so many near identical posts if they just have the same agreements. There'd be more of a difference between posts.
Unironically yes as it doesn't add anything to the thread or discussion.
It's hilarious to see this sentiment posted by someone who sounds like a twitter bot lmao
holy shit look at this homosexual cope
>why is everyone getting 4 as an answer? clearly 2+2 equals 5! you're all incompetent!
>repeating things...le bad!
>All of these people complaining about Amber and the writers sound all the same
Wow, everyone agrees about what's wrong with the writing? That's crazy, man.
Assuming they actually stick to the source material and have Mark and Amber break up, it's going to feel so fricking schizophrenic with the pace at which they're speeding through the main story right now. It's gonna end up feeling like they got together, fought a bunch, broke up, got back together, acted all happy for a bit, then grew apart and broke up all in the span of like 2 weeks.
Can’t you just have her apologize fir that shit???
>Can't you just acknowledge the perfect Amber from season one actually was a toxic piece of shit like all those bad bigoted incels said she was?
Anon, come on, be real.
As much as I want to complain about what they did would it not be worse for them to steal precious minutes focusing on realtionshits instead of literally anything else
Kinda glad she's so one-note with all the other plot threads the show's trying to juggle.