>Yea especially since they are missing the entire point to the Barbie success.
It also had smart marketing that made people think it was an old style fish outof water comedy. People only found out the plot was terribly misogynistic after they saw it.
Genuinely, both.
It's openly and aggressively misandrist, no surprises there.
It's backhandedly misogynistic, in that Barbie only becomes a "real woman" when she stepped into her role as defacto overlord of her male peers. Essentially, implying that any woman who doesn't think as the movie demands is remaining a toy.
Seems like it's a case like that old ass war movie that was anti-war and got banned in several countries, because they deemed that it supported the "enemy"
But just with shitty pointless gender politics instead, so the drama is even more moronic
>It's backhandedly misogynistic, in that Barbie only becomes a "real woman" when she stepped into her role as defacto overlord of her male peers. Essentially, implying that any woman who doesn't think as the movie demands is remaining a toy.
That's what girlbosses tell women, not what men tell them. Not misogynistic, just moronic
>It's openly and aggressively misandrist, no surprises there
But I liked Gerwig's Little Women, that one count as misandrist too for you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Couldn't tell you, never watched it.
I rarely enjoy literature adaptation in most cases and my anachronism autism kept me completely disinterested in this one.
I never get tired of people on this website broadcasting that they have no ability to comprehend basic storytelling.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly the ammount of people filtered by a fricking Barbie movie is just staggering.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Do enlighten us then with your take. I cannot guarantee that you won't be mocked for it because it's the internet, but it's better than being the guy who talks about being superior without backing it up.
>Genuinely, both.
Nope, absolutely opposing messages, this is trying to have the cake and eat, just make up your damn mind.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>absolutely opposing messages
No.
Hating X doesn't mean you don't hate Y for not hating X enough.
9 months ago
Anonymous
In sexism it absolutely does since it's all based on comparing 2 sides based on their differences, it's not like racism where several groups exist so you can use an universal standard to judge each group.
What you are doing is clearly trying to have it's cake and eat by trying to appeal both sides to insantly turn everyone against it at once even though they are clear opposites.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If your belief was true, the phrase "internalized misogyny" wouldn't be a reflex reaction anytime a feminist disagrees with a woman.
Genuinely disturbing how devoid of any degree of media literacy some of you people are. Just parroting dumb shit you hear all the time in your echo chambers without even a hint of independent thought.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are more then welcome to explain your, surely, enlightened take.
>It's backhandedly misogynistic, in that Barbie only becomes a "real woman" when she stepped into her role as defacto overlord of her male peers.
If you actually watched the movie and that was your interpretation of what happened, you are either just dumb as bricks or you may be brain damaged.
>of course it's first outing would be like that.
Plenty of IP-lead films have bombed in the past. Ones that otherwise should have been surefire hits. Barbie won because of the marketing. I think it would have bombed if not for the well cut trailers and domination on social media leading up to release.
Embracing Barbenheimer was a GENIUS move from a marketing status for both movies too because it made people that wouldn't have seen both see both and allowed them to not really compete. There was no antagonism like there usually for tentpole films release close together or on the same weekend.
>embracing
m8 they paid for it. And none of the dipshits caught in the turf job realized what they were doing while fishing for upboats "supporting the strike!!1!!" while actively shilling for [brand]. Read between the lines of the WGA/gay pronouncement that influencers shouldn't totally organically rep corporate properties during their little promotion blackout.
Detective Pikachu is niche story while kinda set in a Pokémon world doesn't totally embrace it. Had it been straight up Red's Journey Gen 1 it would've done differently.
Lego while big is very Niche. Especially nowadays being a very collector based market.
>pokemon battles don't translACK!
Peta would just learn once again that fricking with pokemon turns apathy into open hatred of sanctimonious pet murderers.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Peta would just learn once again that fricking with pokemon turns apathy into open hatred of sanctimonious pet murderers.
Easier when it's pixels or cartoon, not CGI furry Pikachu or Squirtle
9 months ago
Anonymous
>If they remade the pokemon movie with the stunning visual fidelity of detective pikachu then the kids will start hekkin doggo fighty ringarinos!!!!1!
are you actually fricking moronic?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>are you actually fricking moronic?
Are you? There's a reason they chose fricking Detective Pikachu in the first place and there's a reason they said their was no fighting when they entered Rhyme City
You're stupid, delusional and likely underaged if you don't think soccer moms wouldn't get outraged at animals beating the shit out of each other and fire blasting and electrocuting each other
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Peta moron who thinks a cartoon rat will make kids punch their dog or something muh chillunz >reddit spacing
checks out
9 months ago
Anonymous
>>Peta moron who thinks a cartoon rat will make kids punch their dog or something muh chillunz
Clearly Warner Bros and TPCI thought the same, given the movie
It'd get widely panned if it was like the games
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The pokemon world depicted in film instead of as low poly videogame characters, that'd never be rated TVY7 and watched by several generations of children!? >surely I'm not a fricking moron, pokemon is clearly hekkin evil and will corrupt the youth. Nothing else can explain Nintendo's decisions and clearly they've vaulted Pokemon the evil mean fighting game. >Nothing else explains taking a successful game from their previous console generation, jumping on a movie trend, then announcing a sequel on their current console strategically timed to be released after the lifecycle of... Pokemon... Sword and Shield... the main line Pokémon... fighting game... that released after Detective Pikachu 2019... while still actively developing TWO mobilegames about making pokemon fight in augmented reality in the real world right in front of you >Xe said, reddit spacing'ly
I think a fully 3DCG Pokémon movie with a style closer to the games would do really really well, but live action Pokémon doesn't have that same appeal
Lego Movie did pretty well, the problem is that while Lego is a popular brand it doesn't really have a popular character as its face, the best selling Lego sets are licensed
I think a Minecraft movie would also gross really well if it was at least decent
Oppenheimer's a hit. It's going to be absurdly profitable compared to its budget in particular.
GOTG 3 bled into the summer and it was a hit, making about as much as the previous two.
Across the Spiderverse is definitely a hit too, basically ate all the summer action films' lunch (Indie 5, Transformers 8, Flash lmao).
It's a shame it looks like Mission Impossible 7 is gonna flop, that movie's actually really good and doesn't deserve to gross less than trash like Fast X. But I guess deserver's got nothing to do with it.
Oppenheimer’s performance is probably even more fascinating than Barbie’s. It will be Nolan’s 3rd or 4th highest grossing movie ever despite having a very small budget compared to TDK/TDKR and Nolan himself is looking to earn 100+ million dollars from it. After Oppie, he will be both the best-paid and the second best paid director in Hollywood.
Hollywood will bounce back but they're not going to be the same as they were in, lets say, 2012 or something. Movies were already suffering long before COVID where only Disney/Marvel movies were able to thrive. The streaming wars caused a shit ton of rifts.
We're genuinely going to witness the development of a new pipeline for Hollywood. It might take maybe five or so years for everything to smooth out, but it's going to have to happen soon if these bigwigs wanna keep their mansions. The same way people saw the birth of talkies, summer tentpole blockbusters, or the rise of serialized cinematic TV, we're going to see a new standard that'll define Hollywood for at least 20 years before another shake-up happens because of whatever reason.
Hopefully so. The last time the industry went belly up, movies got scaled down and new fresh directors were given a shot at making story focused movies and we got loads of classics after all the massively bloated crap trying to cash in on trends. Right now it's nothing but greedy shits throwing money at old and tired ideas, which is why something as tertiary as how big of a budget all of these dumb blockbusters have is constantly paraded in their advertising.
It would be nice to see blockbusters downscaled and medium movies getting some love. Netflix has been trying it seems, but they keep trying to turn medium movies into blockbusters.
>Oppenheimer doing well >GotG 3 did great >AtSV did great >Mission Impossible doing well
Doomposters are dumb.
All the movies that failed are films that looked like generic shit everyone has seen before.
>Movie comes out during very comepetive summer >Has reported to have made a profit and overall sucess >Wasn't the massive mega hit some executives were hoping it'd be like the previous film >"lol it flopped"
Geniune moron.
>during very comepetive summer
It wasn't supposed to be. Sound of Freedom came out of nowhere and until relatively late the commercial success of Barbenheimer was uncertain. There were even complaints that IMAX screens would be wasted on Oppenheimer, when MI:7 would fill them. >made a profit
Budget of ~300 mil. Current box office of ~450 million. It's got ~150 million or so to go but it's currently only #5 in the dailies.
It's underperforming. Not doing well at all.
Hollywood has had a string of some of the biggest bombs of all time all one after the other this year, right before productions basically shut down indefinitely. The industry is in a really bad spot right now, the small handful of successes you mentioned doesn't negate the fact that most of the project that released this year have lost money and a lot of it.
And that's not even taking into account that right now most of those studios are also bleeding money on streaming services they bet on hard without understanding what the frick they were getting into.
>Hollywood has had a string of some of the biggest bombs of all time all one after the other this year
It seems to me that audiences are now more picky on what to watch and are smart enough to go see actually intresting films.
I do not feel bad for any of the films that have mentioned being bombs because they are so trite they all deserved it.
If these string of losses mean that trash gets treated as such, I see this as an absolute win.
Maybe if it had been released 10 years ago. Jamie Reyes was a pretty fun character, back when I first read about him. But now? Sure as hell not watching it after the dog vomit WB spread across the floor all throughout the 2010s.
I'm hoping it's good. If it's good enough to overcome the Mousecuck anti-shilling inherent in any Warner project, I'll go see it. The "Batman is a fascist" line doesn't give me a lot of hope, but we'll see.
no dc only makes woke stuff
their comics, movies, tv shows they are all about attacking, emasculating or sexually exploiting white men so that ugly, censored strong wyman and non whites can save the day
I was mildly interested until I saw Susan Sarandon and George Lopez in it. The former is more because using the Kord family and assets as an antagonist means we're unlikely at best to see Ted, though both actors are human garbage who deserve only derision.
You can't appeal as heavily to hispanics as you can black people because they are largely already successful, have had plenty of successful latin american actors, and their own entertainment industry.
Not only that but the fastest growing conservative base in America has been hispanics for awhile.
Day fricking one. I related to the character alot as a kid being Hispanic and from El Paso and the OG Giffen run was fricking solid gold. While I kinda hate that WB took him out of El Paso, which I always thought lent a more authentic feel to the character, Palmera does make sense from a marketing/branding standpoint, I guess. BB's always been about falling back on family and friends and shit and it seems like the movie really gets that. I'm a fan of practical suits and general tokusatsu action so this hits all the right marks for me, I just hope it doesn't suck.
I want to be excited about it for all the reasons you mentioned, but based on the trailers it looks like they completely missed the point of the Giffen run, so I do not have high hopes for it being anything more than mediocre at best unfortunately.
Maybe somebody is. Jaime was what I would consider a legacy character done right but that was two DC universes ago in an era where a minority character didn't have to automatically be fricking annoying. I just don't want to watch a movie written with modern sensibilities in mind that completely divorces him from Ted and takes place in a dying film universe that I hated to begin with.
>Latino-aimed movie >Tracking based on phone/internet surveys >The main demographic doesn't trust that shit and sometimes doesn't even speak English >They all show up for the movie because something that isn't a half-baked sidekick role in Dr. Strange/the villain of BP >Maybe not the first weekend but after the news spreads via word-of-mouth
This is what I'm expecting.
After watching the trailers for Flash and The Marvels, I can honestly say Im done with capeshit. Maybe if DP3 does good and Feige actually starts hiring writers who know the comics and not just some rando woke college kid trying to make it their own thing based on a wiki article. Then maybe I'll start going back to the theaters. I'll give Gunn one shot at his DCverse.
I don't know why DC even bothers.
DC will try more women lead films because Barbie.
Why do Latinx don’t like progress and representation like African Americans?
Not really. The trailer was really cringe
It's Latina or Latino
It's needed
Latinx
La-TINKS
It's actually LatinZ.
They do if the representation is a European Latino.
They would prefer to throw fiestas than watch movies.
Sure, looks better than The Flop, not paying for it tho
representation =/= progress,
The Brazillians youtubbers are full suporting this because Bruna.
But no one else really talks about the movie.
They have their own movie industry in Mexico.
They have it. They have their own culture separate from Hollywood.
They've always liked anime more, at least through my experience of growing up in brown cities in Texas
Snyder is apparently.
I ain't touching this film.
captcha: A4AHHH
Do you touch many films?
Usually people enjoy films like these through the senses of sight and hearing, not touch.
Molesting a film is the only way I feel joy these days.
>film after film is bombing
>only real hit of the summer is Barbie
>writer's strike AND actor's strike so increasingly no films in the pipeline
Hollywood is fricked, aren't they?
Yea especially since they are missing the entire point to the Barbie success.
It's a damn global brand of course it's first outing would be like that.
>Yea especially since they are missing the entire point to the Barbie success.
It also had smart marketing that made people think it was an old style fish outof water comedy. People only found out the plot was terribly misogynistic after they saw it.
Also Mattel forcing a recasting of the lead.
So is it misogynistic or misandrist? I've heard people say both
Genuinely, both.
It's openly and aggressively misandrist, no surprises there.
It's backhandedly misogynistic, in that Barbie only becomes a "real woman" when she stepped into her role as defacto overlord of her male peers. Essentially, implying that any woman who doesn't think as the movie demands is remaining a toy.
Seems like it's a case like that old ass war movie that was anti-war and got banned in several countries, because they deemed that it supported the "enemy"
But just with shitty pointless gender politics instead, so the drama is even more moronic
>It's backhandedly misogynistic, in that Barbie only becomes a "real woman" when she stepped into her role as defacto overlord of her male peers. Essentially, implying that any woman who doesn't think as the movie demands is remaining a toy.
That's what girlbosses tell women, not what men tell them. Not misogynistic, just moronic
>It's openly and aggressively misandrist, no surprises there
But I liked Gerwig's Little Women, that one count as misandrist too for you?
Couldn't tell you, never watched it.
I rarely enjoy literature adaptation in most cases and my anachronism autism kept me completely disinterested in this one.
I never get tired of people on this website broadcasting that they have no ability to comprehend basic storytelling.
Honestly the ammount of people filtered by a fricking Barbie movie is just staggering.
Do enlighten us then with your take. I cannot guarantee that you won't be mocked for it because it's the internet, but it's better than being the guy who talks about being superior without backing it up.
>Genuinely, both.
Nope, absolutely opposing messages, this is trying to have the cake and eat, just make up your damn mind.
>absolutely opposing messages
No.
Hating X doesn't mean you don't hate Y for not hating X enough.
In sexism it absolutely does since it's all based on comparing 2 sides based on their differences, it's not like racism where several groups exist so you can use an universal standard to judge each group.
What you are doing is clearly trying to have it's cake and eat by trying to appeal both sides to insantly turn everyone against it at once even though they are clear opposites.
If your belief was true, the phrase "internalized misogyny" wouldn't be a reflex reaction anytime a feminist disagrees with a woman.
Genuinely disturbing how devoid of any degree of media literacy some of you people are. Just parroting dumb shit you hear all the time in your echo chambers without even a hint of independent thought.
You are more then welcome to explain your, surely, enlightened take.
You are legitimately moronic.
>It's backhandedly misogynistic, in that Barbie only becomes a "real woman" when she stepped into her role as defacto overlord of her male peers.
If you actually watched the movie and that was your interpretation of what happened, you are either just dumb as bricks or you may be brain damaged.
>of course it's first outing would be like that.
Plenty of IP-lead films have bombed in the past. Ones that otherwise should have been surefire hits. Barbie won because of the marketing. I think it would have bombed if not for the well cut trailers and domination on social media leading up to release.
Embracing Barbenheimer was a GENIUS move from a marketing status for both movies too because it made people that wouldn't have seen both see both and allowed them to not really compete. There was no antagonism like there usually for tentpole films release close together or on the same weekend.
>I think it would have bombed if not for the well cut trailers and domination on social media leading up to release.
no way. The movie gave off Mean Girls/Legally Blonde vibes, which women actually love.
unlike female Ghostbusters or Charlie Angels reboot or that Birds of Prey movie or whatever. Barbie was fun and feminine and had good looking actors
>embracing
m8 they paid for it. And none of the dipshits caught in the turf job realized what they were doing while fishing for upboats "supporting the strike!!1!!" while actively shilling for [brand]. Read between the lines of the WGA/gay pronouncement that influencers shouldn't totally organically rep corporate properties during their little promotion blackout.
Not all global brands are an instant ticket to a billion dollars.
See: Detective Pikachu, The LEGO Movie, Secrets of Dumbledore.
Detective Pikachu is niche story while kinda set in a Pokémon world doesn't totally embrace it. Had it been straight up Red's Journey Gen 1 it would've done differently.
Lego while big is very Niche. Especially nowadays being a very collector based market.
Harry Potter is. Rando shit isn't
>Had it been straight up Red's Journey Gen 1 it would've done differently.
would never happen because that would be promoting dog-fighting. Pokemon battles don't translate irl.
>pokemon battles don't translACK!
Peta would just learn once again that fricking with pokemon turns apathy into open hatred of sanctimonious pet murderers.
>Peta would just learn once again that fricking with pokemon turns apathy into open hatred of sanctimonious pet murderers.
Easier when it's pixels or cartoon, not CGI furry Pikachu or Squirtle
>If they remade the pokemon movie with the stunning visual fidelity of detective pikachu then the kids will start hekkin doggo fighty ringarinos!!!!1!
are you actually fricking moronic?
>are you actually fricking moronic?
Are you? There's a reason they chose fricking Detective Pikachu in the first place and there's a reason they said their was no fighting when they entered Rhyme City
You're stupid, delusional and likely underaged if you don't think soccer moms wouldn't get outraged at animals beating the shit out of each other and fire blasting and electrocuting each other
>Peta moron who thinks a cartoon rat will make kids punch their dog or something muh chillunz
>reddit spacing
checks out
>>Peta moron who thinks a cartoon rat will make kids punch their dog or something muh chillunz
Clearly Warner Bros and TPCI thought the same, given the movie
It'd get widely panned if it was like the games
>The pokemon world depicted in film instead of as low poly videogame characters, that'd never be rated TVY7 and watched by several generations of children!?
>surely I'm not a fricking moron, pokemon is clearly hekkin evil and will corrupt the youth. Nothing else can explain Nintendo's decisions and clearly they've vaulted Pokemon the evil mean fighting game.
>Nothing else explains taking a successful game from their previous console generation, jumping on a movie trend, then announcing a sequel on their current console strategically timed to be released after the lifecycle of... Pokemon... Sword and Shield... the main line Pokémon... fighting game... that released after Detective Pikachu 2019... while still actively developing TWO mobilegames about making pokemon fight in augmented reality in the real world right in front of you
>Xe said, reddit spacing'ly
I think a fully 3DCG Pokémon movie with a style closer to the games would do really really well, but live action Pokémon doesn't have that same appeal
Lego Movie did pretty well, the problem is that while Lego is a popular brand it doesn't really have a popular character as its face, the best selling Lego sets are licensed
I think a Minecraft movie would also gross really well if it was at least decent
Japan did a remake of the 1st movie in 3DCG. I never saw it, but I was definitely iffy on some of the models.
>It's a damn global brand of course it's first outing would be like that.
Do you know how many global brands flop in theaters?
It's on the same level as Mario in Brand Saturation. Long at it looked anywhere close to the doll then it was safe.
Oppenheimer's a hit. It's going to be absurdly profitable compared to its budget in particular.
GOTG 3 bled into the summer and it was a hit, making about as much as the previous two.
Across the Spiderverse is definitely a hit too, basically ate all the summer action films' lunch (Indie 5, Transformers 8, Flash lmao).
It's a shame it looks like Mission Impossible 7 is gonna flop, that movie's actually really good and doesn't deserve to gross less than trash like Fast X. But I guess deserver's got nothing to do with it.
Oppenheimer’s performance is probably even more fascinating than Barbie’s. It will be Nolan’s 3rd or 4th highest grossing movie ever despite having a very small budget compared to TDK/TDKR and Nolan himself is looking to earn 100+ million dollars from it. After Oppie, he will be both the best-paid and the second best paid director in Hollywood.
>It's a shame it looks like Mission Impossible 7 is gonna flop,
I wonder if it's karma for Cruise continually saying no to a rebooted TV series
The movie series began with them throwing the old series under the bus, so I’m not surprised he didn’t want to connect anything to tv again
Hollywood will bounce back but they're not going to be the same as they were in, lets say, 2012 or something. Movies were already suffering long before COVID where only Disney/Marvel movies were able to thrive. The streaming wars caused a shit ton of rifts.
We're genuinely going to witness the development of a new pipeline for Hollywood. It might take maybe five or so years for everything to smooth out, but it's going to have to happen soon if these bigwigs wanna keep their mansions. The same way people saw the birth of talkies, summer tentpole blockbusters, or the rise of serialized cinematic TV, we're going to see a new standard that'll define Hollywood for at least 20 years before another shake-up happens because of whatever reason.
Did Gunn finish his screenplay for Superman before the strike?
God, we can only hope.
Hopefully so. The last time the industry went belly up, movies got scaled down and new fresh directors were given a shot at making story focused movies and we got loads of classics after all the massively bloated crap trying to cash in on trends. Right now it's nothing but greedy shits throwing money at old and tired ideas, which is why something as tertiary as how big of a budget all of these dumb blockbusters have is constantly paraded in their advertising.
It would be nice to see blockbusters downscaled and medium movies getting some love. Netflix has been trying it seems, but they keep trying to turn medium movies into blockbusters.
>Oppenheimer doing well
>GotG 3 did great
>AtSV did great
>Mission Impossible doing well
Doomposters are dumb.
All the movies that failed are films that looked like generic shit everyone has seen before.
>Mission Impossible doing well
Lol
>Movie comes out during very comepetive summer
>Has reported to have made a profit and overall sucess
>Wasn't the massive mega hit some executives were hoping it'd be like the previous film
>"lol it flopped"
Geniune moron.
The movie cost around $300m and has made $450m so far, meaning it didn't break even. It isn't a hit.
>during very comepetive summer
It wasn't supposed to be. Sound of Freedom came out of nowhere and until relatively late the commercial success of Barbenheimer was uncertain. There were even complaints that IMAX screens would be wasted on Oppenheimer, when MI:7 would fill them.
>made a profit
Budget of ~300 mil. Current box office of ~450 million. It's got ~150 million or so to go but it's currently only #5 in the dailies.
It's underperforming. Not doing well at all.
Hollywood has had a string of some of the biggest bombs of all time all one after the other this year, right before productions basically shut down indefinitely. The industry is in a really bad spot right now, the small handful of successes you mentioned doesn't negate the fact that most of the project that released this year have lost money and a lot of it.
And that's not even taking into account that right now most of those studios are also bleeding money on streaming services they bet on hard without understanding what the frick they were getting into.
>Hollywood has had a string of some of the biggest bombs of all time all one after the other this year
It seems to me that audiences are now more picky on what to watch and are smart enough to go see actually intresting films.
I do not feel bad for any of the films that have mentioned being bombs because they are so trite they all deserved it.
If these string of losses mean that trash gets treated as such, I see this as an absolute win.
Yeah, nobody is saying otherwise. We're not saying hollywood being fricked hard is a bad thing, just that it's a thing that's currently happening.
I'm a big fan of all the Blue Beetles!
I'm not going to the theater to watch any superhero movies anymore. Fully expect the director to frick things up for the characters.
I'm looking forward to it.
Maybe if it had been released 10 years ago. Jamie Reyes was a pretty fun character, back when I first read about him. But now? Sure as hell not watching it after the dog vomit WB spread across the floor all throughout the 2010s.
Antman but blue?
Mexican-American Ironman
Hispanic Guyver
Yes
me. I liked the original run.
Yeah me, along with like 5 other people
I'm hoping it's good. If it's good enough to overcome the Mousecuck anti-shilling inherent in any Warner project, I'll go see it. The "Batman is a fascist" line doesn't give me a lot of hope, but we'll see.
It looks like it's gonna partially be a retread of shazam judging by the trailer, but i still wanna see it.
15 years ago
oh shit
I like blue bettle, bit Im in no rush to go see it
meh. Maybe, but it looks bland and generic to the point where i can immediately predict its plot, ending and post credits.
no dc only makes woke stuff
their comics, movies, tv shows they are all about attacking, emasculating or sexually exploiting white men so that ugly, censored strong wyman and non whites can save the day
Professional victim
sorry, i am not black or female so that doesn't apply to me
Lol. you guys have become that and you don't even see it. it's hilarious
I am, but I don't expect it to actually be good.
I was mildly interested until I saw Susan Sarandon and George Lopez in it. The former is more because using the Kord family and assets as an antagonist means we're unlikely at best to see Ted, though both actors are human garbage who deserve only derision.
I liked the pre flashpoint comic and the movie looks decent.
>DC movie
Of course not. I'll start checking to see if they've gotten any better once Gunn's movie is out.
You can't appeal as heavily to hispanics as you can black people because they are largely already successful, have had plenty of successful latin american actors, and their own entertainment industry.
Not only that but the fastest growing conservative base in America has been hispanics for awhile.
Day fricking one. I related to the character alot as a kid being Hispanic and from El Paso and the OG Giffen run was fricking solid gold. While I kinda hate that WB took him out of El Paso, which I always thought lent a more authentic feel to the character, Palmera does make sense from a marketing/branding standpoint, I guess. BB's always been about falling back on family and friends and shit and it seems like the movie really gets that. I'm a fan of practical suits and general tokusatsu action so this hits all the right marks for me, I just hope it doesn't suck.
I want to be excited about it for all the reasons you mentioned, but based on the trailers it looks like they completely missed the point of the Giffen run, so I do not have high hopes for it being anything more than mediocre at best unfortunately.
Maybe somebody is. Jaime was what I would consider a legacy character done right but that was two DC universes ago in an era where a minority character didn't have to automatically be fricking annoying. I just don't want to watch a movie written with modern sensibilities in mind that completely divorces him from Ted and takes place in a dying film universe that I hated to begin with.
pretty sure its about to outsell oppenheimer and barbie
I am.
Yes. I plan on sneaking in after The Meg 2.
>Latino-aimed movie
>Tracking based on phone/internet surveys
>The main demographic doesn't trust that shit and sometimes doesn't even speak English
>They all show up for the movie because something that isn't a half-baked sidekick role in Dr. Strange/the villain of BP
>Maybe not the first weekend but after the news spreads via word-of-mouth
This is what I'm expecting.
it feels like late 90s mid 00s Disney made-for-tv movie.
I was until I learned the characters and the plot
After watching the trailers for Flash and The Marvels, I can honestly say Im done with capeshit. Maybe if DP3 does good and Feige actually starts hiring writers who know the comics and not just some rando woke college kid trying to make it their own thing based on a wiki article. Then maybe I'll start going back to the theaters. I'll give Gunn one shot at his DCverse.