Is becoming a doctor worth it?

Is becoming a doctor worth it?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is if you like loads of money and no time to enjoy it.
    You really need to live for the job

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why not just work for like 10 years then cash out. You get paid so much and live in a shitty apartment because you just sleep there.
      Me I only work 40 hrs a week, I like to be a lazy b***h in my pad.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I AM A WOMAN

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What?

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lolno. You live in poverty for years while in medical school only to be yelled at by morons who expect you to be a miracle worker and solve their eating disorders/drug addictions/mental issues for them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      docgay here, ama

      Definately this, but it’s got it’s upsides
      >guaranteed at least comfy living
      >can always find work anywhere
      >mentally stimulating
      >normies see it as a “cool” job
      >can sometimes feel like you’re making a difference

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >docgay here, ama
        radiology bro?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nope, family practices trained, now do mostly emergency with some hospitalist and clinic prn

          has it ever gotten you laid?

          So much. It’s crazy going from a poor student (no one gets less pussy than a student in their late 20s) to being an attending in your early 30s and literally fighting off women. A lot of it helps that now I finally have money to drive a not a piece of shit car, dress nice, take care of myself, etc, and also have the confidence that comes from having a career; but when they hear doctor they really go full send. Just last week a low-mid tier Hollywood producer/former actress forced her number on me in a bar. But, I married the greatest woman I could ever imagine a year out of residency (a fellow doctor), so I don’t chase or miss the pussy. But if I wasn’t married… man… when old guys tell you to stay single cus you can clean up in your 30s and 40s and 50s, they ain’t lying

          an overlooked benefit of becoming a doctor is it becomes next to impossible to really frick your life up bad because you can still make >$400k a year plus a fat signing bonus if you have the right specialty and are willing to do fricked up gorey work in a hospital environment where you're watching people die all the time.

          even if you get divorced, crash your car, gamble away all your money and become an alcoholic you can still get back to millionaire status in ~2 years just by showing up to work and doing a job people will call you a hero for.

          you can be fat, ugly and a complete piece of shit as a person too and still get paid unlike with celebrity.

          the only way to really frick your life up as a doctor is to go to prison for life for murdering a patient or get busted doing medicare fraud or something and lose your license and get fined into oblivion by the government.

          This is true, even if you’re a moron and a frick up and a loser among doctors you can always find work in the prison system or a shitty clinic or hospital that just doesn’t care

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >dude i would be getting so much pussy if i was getting pussy
            that's crazy bro

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            any recommendations for docgay to be? im most interested in general surgery but still not sure it is what i want to do for the rest of my life

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              First figure out if you NEED the OR or not. Then, if you’re not 1000% sure you have to be a surgeon, next decide if you even want to be a “real” doctor (I.e, someone that sees patients and deals with life or death emergencies such as FP,IM,EM,peds). If you’re honest with yourself and don’t want to be either a surgeon or a real doctor, there’s psych, rads, path, pm&r, and to a lesser extent ophtho.

              Picking things based on medicine or ego is how you frick up bad. And don’t follow trends among other med students

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            that dual income doctor household must be insane

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              we can a combined income of $7-800k it’s nice enough to live comfortably and we’re very grateful but with taxes and housing prices and student loans these days it’s still not as much as you’d think

              Are women really that moronic that they don't date med students? Even if you are broke settling down with on on the ground floor is like a guaranteed 100k in alimony a year

              Yes, especially in a big city where roasties are used to fricking attending doctors, financebros, techbros, and you’re driving a brokedown jeep and live in the hood and barely have beer money. I had one woman tell me she usually dated “more established” men. Can’t really blame them though, very few women are true psycho golddiggers and I understand there’s little attractive about a broke b***h med student who makes negative money and stresses over tests and groveling for LORs

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a combined income of $7-800k
                hmm.
                that's two specialists, or super-specialists, like an oncologist & a cardiologist.
                (Or, in the American and some 2nd-3rd World systems, a pharma-paid over-prescriber.)
                in any case, not reg doctors.

                the trade-off is either not having children, or not knowing them.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope not really, as I mentioned I do rural ER/hospitalist/primary care and make $330k+ plus benefits. She is full ER and makes $450k but is 1099 so no benefits and lots of taxes. But that’s not unusual, anyone doing primary care for less than $300k is making that choice (for academics, saturated market, easy lifestyle, etc.) I get offers every day for 3-400k straight outpt primary care 4-4.5 days per week. And I really wish we got kickbacks from the pharma companies like all the trumptard shills think we do I barely get enough free samples from the pharma reps to supply my indigent patients.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hospitalist
                >1099
                These are American terms, I suppose. Can you explain them, pls?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hospitalist is the doctor that only sees patients admitted to the hospital and managed their day to day generalized care. A newer thing whereas it used to be PCPs would see their patients in the hospital before clinic or during their lunch breaks, and specialists would do the same. Now a hospitalist typically works 12 hours a day, 7 days on, 7 days off, and admits patients from the ER, manages them while in the hospital, consults the specialists and coordinates care, and discharged them when ready.
                1099 is an independent contractor instead of an employee (w2). So you are responsible for paying all taxes and providing all your own benefits.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I hate doctors because you guys were huge cucks during covid while acting like heros. Also everyone I know with a medical problem gets passed from specialist to specialist with nobody ever taking accountability or actually solving a problem. Paid because the profession is gatekept and beyond greedy and corrupt so frick you and all your moronic friends

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. antisocial

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Hard for the children. How well do your parents ever know you if they're never around?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                the plan is to cut back when we have kids. If we both only work 25 hours per week we can still live comfortably and she has lots of family to help.
                Also, what

                Depends. It's a very comfy job if you don't take it to heart and are able to recognize the kind of people who are helpless and those who can save themselves with the right medicine. You will have to work long hours though, but on the upside you will be part of a social caste society bends over backwards for and will have instant respect and prospects literally everywhere you go, so you don't need as much free time as say, a Millwright does, because a Millwright at a mixer has to spend hours explaining his job and proving his worth to find friends and potential partners whereas if you walk in and explain that you're a real doctor within 5 minutes you're one of the most popular people in the room even if you're an autistic sperg, and even your latchkey kids won't be as mentally traumatized growing up alone because they are taught to understand doctors are extremely important people and excuse daddy not being there for the piano recital because he's an important doctor.

                says has an element of truth, although I do know a lot of fricked up doctors kids

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                What kind of doctors?
                Cutting back seems unlikely.
                25 hours/wk?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are women really that moronic that they don't date med students? Even if you are broke settling down with on on the ground floor is like a guaranteed 100k in alimony a year

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Women don't want to buy and live in an unbuilt house even if it winds up being the most beautiful home in the world worth 50x its value at the time she could purchase it. A woman doesn't look at a med student and think "Oooooo this is a future doctor!" She looks at a med student and thinks "This guy has no cash and isn't established anywhere and might not even graduate, I'm not risking it."

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        has it ever gotten you laid?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How much coke did you do during residency

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Zero. Residency actually isn’t that hard. Hours are long but maxed out at 80 with guaranteed 8 hours off after 24 hours. Even the “magic 80” isn’t that long. I work longer hours now as an attending (36 and 72 hour shifts sometimes) but I get two weeks off per month so it’s okay while you’re young.

          Why not just work for like 10 years then cash out. You get paid so much and live in a shitty apartment because you just sleep there.
          Me I only work 40 hrs a week, I like to be a lazy b***h in my pad.

          We really don’t make that much money. Yes 3-500k is nice but you’re making negative money until you’re 30-35 (average student debt is 250k+ for docs). Add in taxes, liability insurances, and multiple licensing fees and it cuts into even more. If you have a couple of kids, a non working wife, a house, and any other family members to provide for you’re not going to be rich. You’ll make enough to be upper middle class and in these days that’s a lot to be thankful for but the days of getting “wealthy” from medicine (wealthy being defined as having the choice to work or live off your money instead) are gone

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That still sounds long as frick. There’s no way someone do can a proper job for 36 hours without sleep

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              All the doctors and especially the important ones are chronically sleep deprived. Wild innit?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can get used to a lot but it’s true. But it’s hard to understate the shortage of doctors in the US so no one really cares. When I’m on I work 90-144 hours per week physically in the hospital with the rest of the time on backup for any emergencies. My job is rare to be fair but docs in general work a ton although it doesn’t have to be that way

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It would help if there weren't a bunch of people that don't belong here clogging everything up

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm pretty sure you're grabbing naps on the clock, but yeah its still an extremely moronic system.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                the entire healthcare system is moronic and doctors are complicity. they dont care tho and wont say anything because they are making bank. literal leaches

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I work longer hours now as an attending (36 and 72 hour shifts sometimes)
            It's always struck me as insanely moronic that doctors are given these shifts where they have to stay up for days at a time. Are the benefits of having a doctor in the hospital for long stretches at a time worth the risks that come with exhaustion? If it were up to you, would you work normal shifts of ~8 hours, or do the patients really need you there for 24+ hours at a time?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              They get to sleep you moron. They're not literally up for that long.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sometimes but not always. It all depends on how busy. My shop is rural and low volume so we average from 9-20 patients per day but have lots of trauma from a nearby interstate and I’m the only doctor for 100 miles when I’m on. Some 72 hour shifts I get 8 hours per night sometimes I get practically zero and am a drooling mess by Monday morning. Even when I do get sleep I’m constantly listening for sirens, phone calls, chart stalking, thinking about pts, etc, or it’s broken up i.e two hours of sleep twice overnight

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              There are benefits to working a lot, medicine is a highly demanding, perishable skill, so the more you work the better you are at it without a ceiling. There’s a saying that goes “medicine is a jealous mistress” meaning whenever you are not working as a doctor, you’ll always feel at least a little jealous that you aren’t working, studying, reading, or doing something to be better. It’s ingrained that you’re serving humanity and that patients always come first, no matter what. To answer your question better I like it for now although I’m already cutting down my hours (I recently refused to work 72s anymore without at least 12 hours on backup in the middle) but it’s fun for now. I can work hard, hone my skills, make money, and also have two weeks of vacation per month with my wife. It would be similarly hard for me to work 9 hours per day 5 days per week. My next move will likely be full time hospitalist when we’re ready to have kids, where I’ll work 7 on 7 off like I do now, but get to sleep in my own bed at night. And yes it’s dangerous but there are advantages, fewer signouts and as mentioned more experience for the doctors (but I don’t think these outweigh the dangers). Very bad for your health too.

              Whose dick measuring? Far as I can tell I’m the only attending doctor here and I just offered my salary because people asked but also made it clear the money isn’t as much as it seems and not worth it in and of itself

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              it was found most frick ups for patients happen in shift change overs so it was just decided doctors don't need to sleep to minimize those deaths

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pretty sure more people are killed by doctors than are saved by them

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >doctor
        >can't spell definitely
        lmao diversity hire

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    an overlooked benefit of becoming a doctor is it becomes next to impossible to really frick your life up bad because you can still make >$400k a year plus a fat signing bonus if you have the right specialty and are willing to do fricked up gorey work in a hospital environment where you're watching people die all the time.

    even if you get divorced, crash your car, gamble away all your money and become an alcoholic you can still get back to millionaire status in ~2 years just by showing up to work and doing a job people will call you a hero for.

    you can be fat, ugly and a complete piece of shit as a person too and still get paid unlike with celebrity.

    the only way to really frick your life up as a doctor is to go to prison for life for murdering a patient or get busted doing medicare fraud or something and lose your license and get fined into oblivion by the government.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm debating starting off as a PA. Less schooling and far and above my current paycheck

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends. It's a very comfy job if you don't take it to heart and are able to recognize the kind of people who are helpless and those who can save themselves with the right medicine. You will have to work long hours though, but on the upside you will be part of a social caste society bends over backwards for and will have instant respect and prospects literally everywhere you go, so you don't need as much free time as say, a Millwright does, because a Millwright at a mixer has to spend hours explaining his job and proving his worth to find friends and potential partners whereas if you walk in and explain that you're a real doctor within 5 minutes you're one of the most popular people in the room even if you're an autistic sperg, and even your latchkey kids won't be as mentally traumatized growing up alone because they are taught to understand doctors are extremely important people and excuse daddy not being there for the piano recital because he's an important doctor.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    depends.
    big difference between going to med school and
    becoming a family doc
    VERSUS
    spending 16 -17 years in university becoming a medical oncologist or a neurosurgeon

    granted, most people don't have the brains to do the latter, but also ---- really, who would want to??

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Be a GP
    >Never see patients during/after covid
    >But that one day where there was a fat bonus for giving the jab...
    I really hate them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >this is how stupid the average American is
      and these frickers vote and breed

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad I'm not American. You will never be white esl.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the frick do i know, i became a biologist. which means i studied like a motherfricker, i am arguably more knowledgeable in several branches of medicine than medics themselves, but i still can't find a job. i won't say more because i would get too angry to sleep otherwise.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't pass the interview because I acted like this homosexual. I was one step away from getting in med school. I cringe so hard every time I see his punchable face

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is one of the most moronic shows in existence. Americans have an obsession with “moronic characters” played in the most unrealistic ways possible.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    My Dad became a doctor in his late 30s, he's very happy with it. His current best friend was some random dude whose life he saved at a car accident. I'd say it's worth it

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can your dad basically make that friend do whatever he wants since he saved his life?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        haha imagine if they were golfing one day and on like hole 5 and it was way out in the middle of nowhere and his dad was like "suck my dick. I saved your fricking life you homosexual, now suck my dick" and the best bud, suddenly acknowledging the incredible debt he owes this man (who, until this point, has been humble about it and never asked for anything other than friendship) and feeling an insurmountable urge to recompense his deeds, immediately starts sucking this guy's dad's dick. haha wild

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Haha, wouldn't it be funny if you could make your friends suck your dick whenever you wanted. Haha, so funny haha

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Haha, that was like 10 years ago. He makes that joke alot, like "come on, I grab you from the glutches of death for you to over cook my steak" and his friend saying "hey, that's why I burned your steak"

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    A straight white man will never be a doctor again in the United States of America. Simple as. No medical school will take you. And even if you manage to get accepted into one, no hospital or practice will hire you. Simple as. You see a white doctor in USA, it's a israelite.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but we will still be able to become nurse practitioners and those are the true heroes of the Healthcare system

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Heroes
        >Healthcare
        Pick one.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >feels pain
          >doctor save me
          You are a gayHOT, admit it

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thread about job devolves into yet another dick length contest with anonymous posters flinging imaginary salaries at each others and try to make the others seethe
    i'm surprised it doesn't get 10 bumps a sec

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, become a lawyer instead.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even more moronic than becoming a doctor

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, it depends. Medgays have a higher floor.

      Even if you went to medschool in New Dehli or whatever, so long as you have MD next to your name it seems like you can pull $200k minimum salary after a few years of practice.

      Meanwhile, Lawgays who went to comparable bullshit lawschools will be lucky to be making $150k after a few years in practice. Starting salaries for low-tier law grads are like $70k. My impression is even moronic MDs make more starting, but I'm not 100% sure.

      That's what I mean by the "floor" being higher for Medgays.

      t. Lawgay

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seems pretty easy since I've never met a doctor with an ounce of curiosity about anything besides pushing pills and sometimes telling me that I'm imagining things. And I have great insurance in a city with a shitload of hospitals.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well you’re an butthole and likely are imagining most of your symptoms. And even if you aren’t, 80% of medical problems can be fixed with drinking more water and sleep. But losers like you come in demanding an easy fix to their headaches/anxiety/ibd/backpain/fatigue/common cold and usually have already decided whatever does get prescribed isn’t going to work because they’re really just looking for validation of both their bullshit somatization and their antisocial belief that doctors are all corrupt rich jerks

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    doctors are morons
    NPs got best of all worlds

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