>is cast as James Bond
>makes two of the best Bond movies ever
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
What was his problem? Besides being too kino.
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Correct. Not only is License to Kill a great Bond film, it's a great action film AND a great 80's film all in one.
I watched this yesterday again and my god, what an amazing film. The writing, acting, directing, pace, songs, set pieces are all excellent. Boomers were such spoiled cretins. Getting movies of a quality we'd only dream of now and still berating them back then for...reasons. Frick them.
this, so much this
damn heckin right
I used Reddit language because I couldn't think of any other answer at the moment not because I go there
he didn't leave, license to kill was a flop
and then then mgm was getting sold off which caused the delays
eon realized they needed to recast
the reality is dalton should have been bond since Octopussy
For Your Eyes Only, objectively. 80's should've been his decade solely. I think this is how they should approach Bond's. Give them their own decade and plan accordingly. Brosnan should've been 90's by this timeline, Craig the 00's, Cavill the 2010's, ATJ the 2020's.
they were afraid connery is gonna steal the spotlight
you have to realize, back then there was only connery and moore (nobody cared about lazenby)
that piece of shit Never Say Never Again made as much as Octopussy...I think EoN didn't won to lose again so they kept Moore for a long time.
and dalton films were not successful...
while Pierce Brosnan films were very successful
Boomers, like with everything else, destroyed Bond. Brosnan was inoffensive slop (besides THAT scene in GoldenEye) and Craig doesn't exist to me. ATJ looks like Dalton a bit but he also sounds like a girl. It's over.
True. i love Octopussy but if Dalton was there from FYEO, obviously the movie would be radically different or not even Octopussy. probably titled The Property of a Lady.
EoN only cared about money.
The reason why they kept Brosnan and Craig is because they made money.
Craig could have possibly made more money if it not for the fact they kept delaying his films. He only made 5 films when he was Bond for 1 years
A total failure. Frick that moron.
What's your opinion on the new guy? Aaron Johnson?
Brosnan and Craig basically had the same problem: their first film was good, but the rest were mediocre-to-crap.
It honestly won't matter who they get to play Bond next if this is the level of quality we're gonna get.
GoldenEye did a bit of the same thing. It had an orbiting space weapon, but they actually made it feel down-to-Earth and realistic. It's just a nuke mounted on a satellite that explodes in orbit and causes an EMP.
Or the electric CPR paddles that Bond had in his car in Casino Royale. I wish more Bond films could make their gadgets feel that natural.
I don't think the Brosnan films went so downhil as Craig. All of them are fairly good with one classic. TND, TWINE are good movies. DAD is a mixed bag but still it was succesful and at the time beloved (i love it, always have always will) but Craig was just a downward slope into utter abomination. Especially THAT ending. I think the trajectory isn't as compatible as it may seem. ATJ is a mystery. but given the fact they've got the Brosnan writers back on board for his movie this may be a sign that they're going back to fun, adventure and natural gadgetry. It'd be overfrickingdue, that's for sure. He has a classically handsome face, good physical build and looks good in a tuxedo. Give him a shave and a haircut and he's great.
It's just so tiresome now.
Cavill will be an eternal 'what-if'. His only shot was back in 06 with Campbell's backing and his body pre-Superman not being ruined by juice. But now? No chance. Plus, he's far too old for what they want and he's too known. ATJ is the right choice, objectively and pragmatically.
>ATJ is the right choice
He's not. They really need to keep looking if Cavill won't be given a chance. You keep talking about age but Cavill is now the perfect age to be Bond.
dalton is kino but no other bond other than moore could ever sell octopussy
He was still cast as Bond for the supposed next one. He was also offered a longer contract, but he himself refused
License to Kino
For me, Bond peaked and died with him. I couldn't care less about the pasty zoomer they want to play "Bond" because Dalton is the only Bond for me. I would've liked Pierce if his era wasn't the starting point of wokeness.
>You could have everything
>Don't you want to know why ?
most kino moment in the whole saga
Craig's movies could never produce such a catharthic and powerful moment.
Well for sure nothing in these movies come close to equal the death of Sanchez but there are still some moments with Craig that are almost the same stuff.
In Casino Royale:
>Mr White we need to speak
>Who are yo-ACK
>Bond... James Bond
In Quantum of Solace when he leave Greene in the desert with a can of oil to avenge Strawberry
And in Skyfall
>Last rat standing
The whole personal grudge thing with Blofeld in Spectre which should have been highly emotional came as failed to me including their last confrontation where bond spare him and give him over to MI6
And Blofeld became outright cartoonish in No Time to Die including in his scenes with Bond
Brosnan in TWINE
>I never miss
>She's waiting for you
And a moment in TND
>Me too
mad how LtK seems subdued but it literally has every goofy staple of Bond films
from secret lairs, to villains leaving Bond for dead, crazy gadgets, gambling millions, fricking sharks
that fight scene in The Living Daylights when they hang from the plane is pure kino. Just two cold-blooded killers giving their best in a highly life endangering situation. And the score during that scene is awesome. I use it as gym music.
Also
>He got the boot
the very example of a non-Marvel/Reddit quip
People slag on the Afghanistan segments but they were kino with a great atmosphere and set pieces. Then, there's the ending. Frick me, what a beauty. Pure unadultured SOVL.
I guess that some people thought it felt too much like anti-communist propaganda in the context of the soviets in Afghanistan and the Cold War sort of like Rambo III but they were nonetheless great moments
I thought the next one he was supposed to do ran into development hell or legal problems.
Dalton was too kino for this world. I know that MGM executives didn't think he was bankable enough and wanted Brosnan, the dumb fricks.
Dalton was supposed to to a third film but MGM and the producers got into a lawsuit.
Licence to Kill is pretty mid. It's paced horribly and is pretty dull for most of the runtime. If it wasn't for the facemelting truck chase it'd be bottom third Bond
Dalton probably came the closest to what Fleming described Bond as : a "good sociopath" so to speak and yet he could still convey emotion.
for example when his colleague is killed in The Living Daylights and he find the balloon the rage that you can read on his face. Or in the same movie when he interrogates Gogol and that first he manhandles and holds at gunpoint his mistress when he set her free you can see for a split second that he feels sorry. In Licence to Kill you can see it when Della throw him her garner and he remember for a moment his own marriage or his shock when he finds her body and Felix. Or the dark satisfaction that he shows when Sanchez's lieutenants got killed one after the other no matter how gruesome their death. No other actor came as close to embody so perfectly both aspects of Bond : the cold-blooded killer and the friend/lover/colleague
Brosnan came close and Craig tried hard and he failed in particular in his last two movies
Dalton, if we're being real, is the only REAL James Bond. The James Bond that most people know is an entirely different character from the literary version. If you're a bookgay, there is no other Bond but Dalton. In a perfect world, he'd be born the right time to be the first actor to play Bond and adapt all the novels from first to last.
the physical likeness is uncanny. The producers really choose him right. Too bad they later had a falling out with him
It's truly the most perfect casting I've ever seen. Uncanny. I am certain if Fleming had lived long enough to see this, he would have been astounded.
>errmm actually the books that no one reads matter because umm they just do!
>no one reads
Delusional Craigzoomer spotted. kys.
no one reads the books. if they weren't adapted into films that mog them, no one would care about them
you have to be a huge contrarian to think the books matter at all
They matter as the films would never have existed without their prior popularity.
>animal shit matters because it can be used as manure
Craig did that. Stop being a homosexual
not a big fan of bond slop but elaborate why the dalton movies are the best?
the living daylights has a good theme and trailer, and I see these threads a few times - enough that I tried to watch it on a plane. (but i stopped because it's not a good experience, worse than watching on a phone)
They nail the dark/serious and fun/light Bond dynamic and duality perfectly while also bringing forth the most novel accurate James Bond of them all.
His Bond does. TLD obviously had a script developed for Brosnan or Moore though. Whacky shit.
Dalton's best Bond film is the one he didn't star in, For Your Eyes Only.