Speak for yourself, I for one hope Pixar makes a Clod solo flick and really ramps up their merchandising budget. Can't wait to get my hands on a Clod Funko pop!
He's just your average annoying minions tier macot/ kid self insert trojan horse to get the kids that are supposedly the core audience for pixar films to watch a chink's traumadumping movie about boring adult stuff.
What I really found odd was how people were ripping on that scene where he tries to hit on the fire girl. Like, were those twitter people ever kids? They never had a crush on an older girl?
Part of it was that Ember rejected him not for being a snotty kid, but because she doesnt racemix. Slightly implying shes fine with banging kids, but not racemixing
>chink's traumadumping movie about boring adult stuff.
It seems as though Pixar is trying to cater to an older audience now instead of a general one with their last couple movies. Turning red was basically made for women in their late 20s/30s and this one is 2nd generation asian americans I guess.
Part of it was that Ember rejected him not for being a snotty kid, but because she doesnt racemix. Slightly implying shes fine with banging kids, but not racemixing
Ember would have been happy to frick CLOD if he was fire nation
>were those twitter people ever kids?
I assumed many of them are kids.
People were ripping on the now deleted instagram scene where they had fake people going crazy over the scene where he hits on her. Not the fact that he hit on her itself
He wearing clothing or is it just plants. I mean is this little boy naked . At first I thought it was a shirt and some shoes that I'm looking at it closer and it looks like it's just growing or mold. He's naked isn't he damn you Pixar. None of characters are wearing pants yet in the movie the parents of the fire girl had a baby in her belly so how did he get there how do they reproduce how do these things mix together I have so many questions
water people eat water Sky people eat air fire people eat wood. The dirt / Earth people are made of wood and dirt so fire people eat dirt people body parts and what do dirt people eat mud?
By pretending to pretend that Clod is popular, despite no one knowing who the frick Clod was before that "the whole theater cheered!" tiktok, they've sown the seeds for him to get the Morbin' Time treatment with 2 additional layers of studio-funded irony.
It’s just a studio desperately trying to turn a character that shows up for five seconds into a meme, like Star Wars and those fricking porgs that never took off like the studio wanted
Why yes my fellow Cinemaphilener of Cinemaphile!
Clod is the best character and a great meme joke!
Why I feel like watching the movie Elemental™ again, you should go watch it too!
>Make an intentionally bad fake reaction >The Internet latches on because of how bad it was and keeps it alive
Why hire marketers when you can get autists to do it for free?
>It got a whole re-release thanks to the meme
yes the studio invested harder because of the meme, and made none of it back because people shitposting about your product doesn't actually translate to sales
I feel this is exactly how the Grimace milkshake is a “trend” at the moment, I don’t wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist but I feel like these companies know how to manufacture discussion
>I don’t wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist but I feel like these companies know how to manufacture discussion
Anon, that's the most milquetoast "conspiracy" theory ever. It's pretty much true.
That's just how social media as a whole works nowadays, stop acting like realizing most peoples brains function the same way is some conspiracy theory, you'll feel a lot less like a schitzoid.
Besides, I thought the Grimace thing initially kicked off because they made some Game Boy game and that caught the interest of zoomers who like "the retros." I don't think McDonalds planned for TikTok to turn the Grimace shake into some pseudo-horror trend, but they're shameless enough to embrace it.
I feel this is exactly how the Grimace milkshake is a “trend” at the moment, I don’t wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist but I feel like these companies know how to manufacture discussion
Cringe marketing must be their new MO. They realize if they make something cringe enough, people will make content making fun of it, which works as free advertising. All of those people making fun of the grimace shake on tiktok went to McDonalds to buy Grimace shakes to film their video. If the CLOD meme catches on, people will start buying tickets to Elemental to film themselves getting hysterical in the theater when CLOD shows up for TikTok. Disney marketers are playing all of us. They 4D chessed us all. Discussion of this movie would be completely dead without the astroturfed "EMBER IS THE HOTTEST WAIFU" threads and the cringe CLOD meme. They must be using AI to come up with these marketing strategies, because it is too intelligent for the morons at Disney to come up with themselves. The AI knows us better than we know ourselves.
>If the CLOD meme catches on, people will start buying tickets to Elemental to film themselves getting hysterical in the theater when CLOD shows up for TikTok.
they'll just upload the whole movie as a 50MB webm on discord like they did with Morbius
>That's just how social media as a whole works nowadays, stop acting like realizing most peoples brains function the same way is some conspiracy theory, you'll feel a lot less like a schitzoid.
It's not a conspiracy theory, that's how marketing works. They find something that works and then exploit it. Outrage marketing was their former trend. It seems purposeful cringe marketing is their new trend when they realized outrage marketing stopped working after racebent LA little mermaid bombed despite all the free publicity their outrage marketing generated.
>Outrage marketing
It doesn't work long term because after the outrage phase, what follows is indifference and insensitivity. People just check out of the media and learn not to consume it from that company next time, which is what's happening to Disney after they sabotaged Star Wars and now while not entirely their fault they'll also take the blame for Marvel's decline, even others tactics as social shaming by getting dragged to the movies by their gf/wife aren't that effective anymore because right now men are checking out in masse, relationships and marriage rates are at all time low, particularly between the young population
Also, TLM mermaid bombed because this time they pissed off white women, men don't care about Disney princess shit and they all were probably laughing their ass off out of the whole fiasco because this time it wasn't an IP that they care about the one getting sabotaged this time
Since when has Hollywood ever cared about the long term? All they care about is immediate profits and what have you done for me lately?
>the false idea that all press is good press >false >thread confirming how that shit works
Disney has destroyed their brand with too much constant divisive outrage marketing. If they were longterm thinkers they would have varied their strategy so that outrage marketing lasted longer. Now their films are causing outrage, but they've pissed off both sides to the point no one is paying to see their movies. Conservs think they're too woke and stopped going. Libs think they aren't woke and progressive enough and stopped going. Moderates associate Disney with child groomers. The outrage marketing campaign lead to short turn profits but long term brand damage.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Libs think they aren't woke and progressive enough and stopped going.
I haven't heard this. Are you using woke in some new way?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I haven't heard this. Are you using woke in some new way?
That's why disney movies are bombing. There was even a time early next year when the LGBTQ+ lobby was calling for a boycott of Disney after they put Turning Red on Disney+ instead of releasing it in theaters. If woke progressives were still watching Disney movies in theaters, their movies wouldn't be financial bombs that they are.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>early next year
*early last year
11 months ago
Anonymous
Turning Red was controversial because before its release, in the wake of the "don't say gay bill", it made rounds that Disney was donating to conservative, anti-liberal, orgs to play both sides and lobby for special treatment and protect profit. They pulled financial support for the GOP and then became targeted by the GOP. This should be revealing of the pay for play nature of our system of legal bribery, but instead it's spun to be purely a story of "the LGBTQ+ lobby". You're protecting the people who profit from this.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Disney is full of fricking shit and is a totally fake corporate overlord.
I'm not right by any means but I hope DeSantis knocks their shit down a peg.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're not anything, you're just moronic. You have feelings and can't even acknowledge basic facts in front of you, just double down based on how the vibes are off at Disney. There are more effective ways and knocking down corporate overlords that isn't to the tune of "keep giving us money even though your employees gay friends and family feel less safe as I label just acknowledging the existence of gays in class rooms as 'grooming' and imply it's only to sexually assault children". The policy, regulation, taxes, and other solutions are thrown out here.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Is this even English? I re-read this post like five times and still can't understand what this person is trying to say.
>You have feelings and can't even acknowledge basic facts in front of you, just double down based on how the vibes are off at Disney.
What?
>keep giving us money even though your employees gay friends and family feel less safe
What the frick does this have to do with anything I said?
>The policy, regulation, taxes, and other solutions are thrown out here.
what????? I posted about DeSantis taking away some of Disney's power to be a bullshit corporate overlord that lies to people.
What the frick does any of that have to do with that haha. Are you okay?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Facts don't care about your feelings.
11 months ago
Anonymous
that poster might be mentally moronic. smells of "got called a snowflake once and their brain bricked".
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think you meant to respond to this
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And I assure you, gay 5 year olds do not feel less safe in schools now because teachers can't teach them about their genitals being genderless anymore.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The bill targets topics of sexual orientation vaguely and it says the purpose of the bill is to give parents control of what kids know about gays.
>requires such procedures to reinforce fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing & control of their children
It's there in Bill 1557 and it was expanded to high schools in April. There are ways to protect 5 year olds from inappropriate genital based education, but that's not what's being opposed. You morons keep returning to fake points like that because you have no reason you feel comfortable explaining in public to support it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Two tickets for Peter Sohn's Elemental, please.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Turning Red is controversial because it's about a girl hitting puberty and then selling her body to people in the girl's bathroom to buy tickets to a shitty boy band. And it ends with her family totally giving up on giving her direction and instead abandoning her to her own bad judgement. You can really tell that the Director and Screenwriter don't have any kids.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>selling her body to people in the girl's bathroom
I guess in the way Hello Kitty merch sells the body of a little white cat girl, sure, if you want to be fricking moron about it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't call myself a lib but the constant really garbage pandering is off putting because its not coming from a place of telling a genuine story but rather thinking "if we include a gay then well secure the alphabet audience".
11 months ago
Anonymous
Also it is completely empty virtue signalling. They cut it out of their Chinese and middle eastern releases. If Disney actually cared about spreading these messages they wouldn't pander to nations that are against those values. All Disney cares about is money. They hid Finn on the Force Awakens poster in China to appease their anti-black racism.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Also it is completely empty virtue signalling. They cut it out of their Chinese and middle eastern releases. If Disney actually cared about spreading these messages they wouldn't pander to nations that are against those values. All Disney cares about is money. They hid Finn on the Force Awakens poster in China to appease their anti-black racism.
Disney actively pushed against gays in shows while Gravity Falls was running and they didn't have their first canon gay character until 2016. A lot of their creatives like gay people, are gay people, and just want to include gay characters. You being selectively cynical about them including something the execs have been pushing against for decades doesn't make sense beyond. You could say they loosened their grip as a form of appeasement while censoring and controlling overseas releases, but that's not an issue of "woke and progressive" that's just a censorship issue.
This thread of replies ultimate stems from the belief that liberals NEED to spend $20 and 2 hours to see something just because there's something "woke" about it and that's just revealing anon's moronation.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its overcompensation of the lowest level
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's not though. The people working on Lightyear had to fight to get their lesbos. You're calling it compensation when it's just what happens when you give gay and gay friendly liberals creative freedom. The execs have been pushing against gays, they'd rather play it safe, but in the age of social media they don't want to be the anti-gay studio. They know there is a risk for a walkout and strike, not just a boycot. You're framing it as if it's the execs making these creative choices or the creatives suddenly feel the need to defend their company's gay brand.
It's weird, to appease you a gay liberal creative would have to read your mind and then pander to you by not including the gay character you were going to be cynical about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hmm maybe ive explained it incorrectly.
Character revisionism and bad writing made to push more diversity into media (or to self insert) always sucks.
It does nobody good. You think i care if i see another trans person in media if that seems to be their entire point for existing? Its always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like.
There are good gay characters but it explores more than their gay aspects. Plus i also recognise having trans characters rn kind of causes so much rage that its like pls
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's not how you worded it at all.
>bad writing is bad
Mind blowing.
>You think i care if i see another trans person in media if that seems to be their entire point for existing? Its always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like.
Please give some examples. You morons complain about this and the only example anyone can come up with is Shoreleave and everyone loves him.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Idk, whats wrong with what i said? Idk who shoreleave is, but every time theres a trans person its always trauma and shit. Theres that comic recently where they introduced a character by censoring their deadname like come on man.
Only good trans character i can think of is Bridgette but thats not a comic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're not giving any examples, you're vaguely referencing what I'm guessing is something you found through a clickbait headline.
Are you trolling or are you really a kid who's new to Cinemaphile?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Im not trolling i read the pages on a different board and to me its just like "oh ok you've made them trans to hide the shitty writing"
Also i gave an example of a good character. But idk
Read basically any description from here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_trans_characters
Its all "x person is trans and their arc is about being trans"
11 months ago
Anonymous
The first one listed is Alice from Superjail! you fricking moron. You're letting memes rot your brain.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I said most not all read through the comic ones.
>and to me its just like
You're making generalizations that keep getting proven wrong while not providing any examples.
Whatever its my perception based on what i see. Idc
11 months ago
Anonymous
So you're perception is based on a Wikipedia page about trans characters that has a note about their transness written by wikivirgins and you treat that as their only descriptor in the context of the comics they're in? Anon, you might actually be moronic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I might be moronic but i still think lgbt characters are handled poorly basically every time theyre used.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>and to me its just like
You're making generalizations that keep getting proven wrong while not providing any examples.
11 months ago
Anonymous
shoreleave is trans? i though he was a based old school homosexual
11 months ago
Anonymous
>always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like. >There are good gay characters but it explores more than their gay aspects.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i have no idea what you are talking about
11 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair his entire character premise is being a camp gay stereotype who is more or less treated completely normally by the cast and is rarely directly called out for being gay in a way that feels preach or inclusive. His promiscuity is more or less treated with the same reactions as it would be with any other character in the show, which is why it’s so funny— he’s not “empowering” or anything, he’s just a regular ass weirdo in a show full of weirdos, and the fact that he’s a flamboyant gay only adds to the humor rather than becoming a statement about identity.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he’s not “empowering” or anything, he’s just a regular ass weirdo in a show full of weirdos,
He's fighting elite super geniuses and keeping up with Brock Sampson. His gayness is empowering because being a super soldier badass doesn't make him "less gay", it's nothing that he turns off to fake a personality more expected for his line of work. He's himself, a flaming homosexual, and the "ugh that's your only personality" and the "don't shove it down our throats" morons have to deal with that, which is just a bonus.
And yes, you can see it as part of the joke, but the more you watch, the more genuine moments you get between him and the rest of the cast and the genuine respect they have for him. Others don't let him being gay get in the way of anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He's a dang joke on "Seaman" and how sailors were raunchy as hell, idk how this isn't clear with the show's other characters and how vulgar he is compared to (most of) them
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Bridgette >young male groomed to live as female due to cultural pressure, not because he truly “felt like he was a woman” >recently “confirmed trans” >this is seen as a W for the troon cult
11 months ago
Anonymous
It was well written is my point. How does moral alignment dictate good writing!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Disney actively pushed against gays in shows while Gravity Falls was running and they didn't have their first canon gay character until 2016. A lot of their creatives like gay people, are gay people, and just want to include gay characters. You being selectively cynical about them including something the execs have been pushing against for decades doesn't make sense beyond. You could say they loosened their grip as a form of appeasement while censoring and controlling overseas releases, but that's not an issue of "woke and progressive" that's just a censorship issue.
It simply means that Disney is full of shit. They pretend to be progressive, woke allies who want to represent the gay community, but they only insert gay characters in side scenes who can easily be edited out to appease foreign markets. Disney is only doing this to virtue signal and raise their ESG score with Vanguard and Blackrock. Disney hates actual black people, everyone saw how they treated John Boyega.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>This thread of replies ultimate stems from the belief that liberals NEED to spend $20 and 2 hours to see something just because there's something "woke" about it and that's just revealing anon's moronation.
Libtards and conservatards both don't want to see these shitty pandering Disney movies. Disney lost their base by trying to appease both sides at the same time. Corporations gonna corporation.
It's not though. The people working on Lightyear had to fight to get their lesbos. You're calling it compensation when it's just what happens when you give gay and gay friendly liberals creative freedom. The execs have been pushing against gays, they'd rather play it safe, but in the age of social media they don't want to be the anti-gay studio. They know there is a risk for a walkout and strike, not just a boycot. You're framing it as if it's the execs making these creative choices or the creatives suddenly feel the need to defend their company's gay brand.
It's weird, to appease you a gay liberal creative would have to read your mind and then pander to you by not including the gay character you were going to be cynical about.
>It's not though.
It is though. >The people working on Lightyear had to fight to get their lesbos
Yeah and they only displayed lesbian traits in a few short scenes that were easily edited out for foreign market cuts of the film. >The execs have been pushing against gays
Not really, there was a leaked call to investors where executives from the Imagineering Tomorrow project who said they were explicitly pushing more gay everywhere, and that they wanted 50% of their new characters to be LGBTQ+ and BIPOCs. >You're framing it as if it's the execs making these creative choices or the creatives suddenly feel the need to defend their company's gay brand.
It is. Victoria Alonso and the DIE chief executive who just got shitcanned were very public in saying they were pushing gay on the brand.
That's not how you worded it at all.
>bad writing is bad
Mind blowing.
>You think i care if i see another trans person in media if that seems to be their entire point for existing? Its always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like.
Please give some examples. You morons complain about this and the only example anyone can come up with is Shoreleave and everyone loves him.
You're starting to sound like a paid Disney shill at this point.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They lost their base because people are having less expendable income, more options for entertainment, and a series of movies that fail to get anyone out to see them. If a gay or white character is included, it doesn't suck the writing talent out of good content.
>Not really, there was a leaked call to investors where executives from the Imagineering Tomorrow project who said they were explicitly pushing more gay everywhere, and that they wanted 50% of their new characters to be LGBTQ+ and BIPOCs.
That wasn't leaked you stupid Black person. That interview with an exec was doing damage control about how half her kids are queer so "if it were up to me" half the characters would be queer.
>DIE
Oh my God are you a Jordan Peterson moron?
>shill
You're seeing someone make a general accusation about something that supposedly happens all the time, but they aren't producing any examples. Am I just suppose to accept that bullshit uncritically to not be seen as a shill?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They lost their base because people are having less expendable income, more options for entertainment, and a series of movies that fail to get anyone out to see them. If a gay or white character is included, it doesn't suck the writing talent out of good content.
that's a lot of cope there, guy >That wasn't leaked you stupid Black person. That interview with an exec was doing damage control about how half her kids are queer so "if it were up to me" half the characters would be queer.
That was a leaked call. You sound like a pixie duster Disney shill. >Oh my God are you a Jordan Peterson moron?
Do you deny the existance of Blackrock and Vanguard pushing DIE/ESG quotas? Do you know who Larry Fink is? >You're seeing someone make a general accusation about something that supposedly happens all the time, but they aren't producing any examples. Am I just suppose to accept that bullshit uncritically to not be seen as a shill?
You're working incredibly hard to run damage control for Disney if you're doing it for free.
It's been happening for fricking years. Every time you use the word "Boomer" or "Zoomer" you're peddling an old aggressive marketing campaign from Monster Energy.
The guys who made Smiling Friends did exactly this with "Conflictanon"/"Neopuritangay"
They made a bait graph and spammed it across Cinemaphile, Cinemaphile and /trash/ pretending it had already been a thing for years when it literally only just started out of nowhere, until anons started using "neopuritan" and talking about the show because "wow you know Smiling Friends has a craaaazy schizo?" and then about a week ago they talked about it in a video to make it a mainstream meme.
If you go into the archives you can literally find people calling it out as a psyop when it started being pushed. Except this was before the Oney guys talked about it on their channel, so people assumed it was just an attention prostitute trying to be Cinemaphile famous.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/134272393/#134277022
How in the absolute frick are youtube normies aware of this? This homosexual isn't even a particularly well known schizo. Lee, sharktalegay and guy are some of the most well known and prolific here but nobody outside Cinemaphile would know who they are. Yet normies know about neopuritangay? How?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Have you never see any smiling friends threads? Everyone in there are oneyplays watching homosexuals
11 months ago
Anonymous
The neopuritan shit is astroturfed to hell
It was an advertising campaign
11 months ago
Anonymous
>since it came out
Okay I'm calling BULLSHIT. I watched Smiling Friends as soon as the megas dropped and browsed Cinemaphile's discussions, the closest was I Hate Smiling Friends but he was just a tryhard namegay who stopped posting eventually. Neopuritan spam started around November 2022, 2 years after the release of the pilot. We'd had plenty of Smiling Friends threads before the spammer showed up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon that is neopuritan gay. His entire bullshit is trying to pretend he's some ancient lolcow who's been around for ages to try and cement himself as important when he's some gay who's been around for less than 3 months
>scared to make Pim threads since they'll just get spammed with the same forced meme and no-one will actually talk about Pim or the show >been banned before for asking him to please stop
The episode he's mainly targeted is the one where Pim is fleshed out the most as a character too, it shows he's not just a one dimensional blind optimist, and he's genuinely good at his job or at least trying his best to be. I just want to talk about it without getting drowned out by some dude sniffing his own farts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I love Smiling Friends and I love Pim. It sucks ass some autist ruins those threads.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If it makes you feel better its not a smiling friends only problem.
Helluva Boss, anything moderately related to John K and Mitchels vs the Machines also have their resident spergs who can go ballistic at the drop of a hat and shut down any discussion.
11 months ago
Anonymous
A ton of cartoons have the same problem. Comics aren't safe either, Spiderman's been getting it as well, I blame the drama surrounding the Spiderverse.
>they can't stop me anyways
Stopping him is as easy as putting in a fricking wordfilter. Cinemaphile spammed the onions boys and onions men meme so hard it got wordfiltered. Why the frick is this allowed to go on when it's infinitely stupider?
>That 2X year old boomer that...
I really wish the worst possible shit on the person that was responsible for that spam.
A bit of some rambling, there's a guy that's insanely mentally ill, in a community that I frequent, and he won't go for 5 seconds without harassing and threatening anyone he stupidly assumes is a zoomer and uses that word constantly. It's even more frequent than the number of times Tarry Davis rants about 'CIA Black folk'. If the boomer shit never took off, I would likely never have to deal with his really really really annoying shit.
Boomer also led to Consoomer, which led to basedjak. Enough said about that.
The schizo I have to deal with everyday, and the entire shit relating to jakposting would never have happened, if they put the bare minimum and added a word filter to the boomer shit.
>they can't stop me anyways
Stopping him is as easy as putting in a fricking wordfilter. Cinemaphile spammed the onions boys and onions men meme so hard it got wordfiltered. Why the frick is this allowed to go on when it's infinitely stupider?
>'Made for [British Broadcasting Corporation]' still not filtered >'chud' on namefield still not filtered >[that one catchphrase that the resident, ban-evading shitposter uses all the time, in your favorite general] still not filtered
Grimmyshake is natural zoomers love doing this random shit spontaneously think of the minions movie or Sichuan sauce.
Clod however, is pure marketing cringe.
You're moronic if you think it was due to McDonalds. Yes, once it took off they tried to capitalize on it but it's pure moronic to think they started it or wanted it to start off that way
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be fans of Clod will eventually be flooded by actual fans of Clod who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company." Renee DeClod.
When is Disney going to start making CLOD merch? The demand is huge- they got a new baby yoda on their hands if they play this right. I want an IT'S CLODDIN TIME shirt so bad no cap
>American children are so visually similar to the dirt people that they resonate with them irl
Pixar is a marketing genius. Come October, these kids won't even need costumes if they want to go out trick or treating as Clod.
Jesus christ did every character designer over at pixar had their parents raped and killed by a sharp angle?
This motherfricker is nothing but circles. Even his teeth are circles
Fair example i'll give you that. I feel like that's the exception though. Other Pixar films never seemed that angular to me. Woody and Buzz aren't very angular.
No, it's Disney literally paying ppl to laugh and cheer at clod showing up on screen, then spamming a video of it on Twitter and TikTok as if it's not the most blatant and pathetic marketing ever
Every time Clod was on screen I fricking lost it. I was writhing in my seat with ever scene transition, my brain firing off in every way Clod could be involved, if only just with his named mentioned by the characters. Every plot point I could see as pivotal around him. He'd show up and have the answer. He'd be the grass on the lawn that had been waiting to that moment to steal the scene, the movie, the whole experience. Even now I am piecing together fanfics, masterworks, all consistent and in line with him as he is in the film, bringing more life into an already vibrant entity. I have so much to show you.
Clod is the most important tertiary character in Elemental, and encapsulates its themes, soul, as well as worldbuilding.
Let's break it down.
Where do we first see Clod: in a casual repose, where Ember reveals he's not quite encouraged to be there by the shop or in firetown. Clod is a trailblazer and rules breaker cutting through the self imposed boundaries the elements have with each other.
Now what is his first line? "Yo, yo, yo, Ember." This subtly and immediately contextualizes the main theme of the movie comparing Fire people with Asian immigrants, as one of the most famous Asians alive is named Yo-yo (Ma)—quite the marvelous metonymy mingling with the metaphor.
His second line is "Why? Come on. He doesn't like my landscaping?" Despite it being at this point where I have to listen past the cheers in the theater and the smell of soil pulled out in honor of the greatest character Pixar ever put to screen, I can still see the tantamount importance of this line. In this city, reputation and holding up appearances matter. In many ways Bernie Lumen has fought hard to hold up his personal reputation as well as the quality of his shop. The keen eye will observe that he pulls out a weird comb: It has three points on one side where he combs his grass, and a fourth circular point on a separate from the rest, which seems very reflective of where the elements are now with Water, Earth, and Air being mostly integrated while fire being included but keeping to itself. Much like the topic of this conversation. >Where does the comb disappear to when he is done using it? That hoodie doesn't have pockets. It's magic, much like we have yet to see the magic happen in this movie.
Then Clod proceeds to move the conversation along. >Anyway
Clod is a stickler for correct grammar, despite people using Anyways more nowadays.
(More analysis to come)
>June Bloom is coming up
This establishes both some world building, where the Elemental city is shown to operate on the Gregorian Calendar, perhaps even having elemental equivalents to the Roman God Juno. An Elemental Roman empire equivalent helps add a touch of verisimilitude to the world with implications of conquests, colonializing, and religions.
Moreover, June is a thematically significant part of the year, marking a change of the season into summer, much like the change Ember and Wade are due to have over the next few days that would lead to a flourishing prime of their life.
On top of that, the rhyming of June with Bloom is an example of the various elemental puns they have scattered throughout the film, both in background details like food named "Falafuel" or cereal named "Flameos" but in the very core character names.
But most importantly, it serves as foreshadowing to the flower motif that is embedded throughout the story, both with the glass flowers Ember creates throughout the film but also in the flower display Ember wanted to see as a child.
>And you just got to be my date.
Clod is the first to recognize one of Ember's issues: where she is not letting herself past her fears and break her comfort zone. >Check it out, I'm all grown up
Once again, this ties to the themes of moving past the spring of your life and into the unfamiliar territory of Adulthood. He is both recognizing it in himself, and projecting it upon Ember, who is struggling with this issue on a personal level.
Clod then proceeds to sniff, much like you will as you hold back tears by the time Bernie says "You are the dream" >And I smell good
Clod reminds the single losers watching that hygiene is important and you should probably aim to smell good as it attracts the ladies.
Clod then proceeds to gift Ember a flower that is purple and yellow. On top of being classically complimentary colors that would serve to represent the contrast of elements to be seen in this story, it has multiple other meanings. One that yellow flowers are associate with friendship, good health, and respect. The friendship Ember is missing, the Good Health that Bernie has diminishing, and the respect Ember yearns for, even if unknowingly.
Purple flowers are associated with Pride, Success, and Refinement, all foreshadowing Wade's involvement in the story. As the color of royalty, it represents the position of privilege Wade has with his family. The success Ember would find with her demonstrated glass blowing skills and job offer. The pride that becomes a part of those Ember impress between Wade, Gale, the parents, and others in the story.
This intermingling of significant colors demonstrate the strength one gets from the combination within the story, bringing out the best in each other.
This flower doesn't burn immediately upon Ember's touch, much like how Wade will not burn to Ember's touch later in the film, nor how other things like the paper brochure [So your business is shutting down] would burn either. Ember, in a conceited effort of trying to let down Clod easy gives an extra step to burn the flower. That delay is important.
In order to pull out this flower, Clod endures a small amount of pain. Everyone knows sacrifices are an essential part of any relationship. Sure he says ow, but he's a tough guy who knows it's worth the effort for his Queen. And that's another thing: Clod is the only non-fire elemental person who doesn't call Ember or other fire people some variation of a fire related slang, like Wade calling Ember hot/smoking or what Gale says later. No extraneous titles, just "My Queen" which is pure respect. (3/?)
When Clod later sees Ember have a relationship with Wade, the water guy, he doesn't become tempted by the pitfalls of petty jealousy like a lesser man, but instead moves on with his life and eventually finds his new Queen who doesn't reject his advances.
What did Ember say upon rejecting his proposal for a date? "Elements don't mix." This is indicative of Ember's own prejudices that she will have to face on her own throughout the movie.
Then Ember says the F word and says she "gotta go" as she notices her timer to beat Bernie's record is still ticking.
Clod, still recognizing that Ember has to work through some things insists anyway.
"you never leave this part of town"
Both points out a small problem Ember has with leaving her comfort zone, and foreshadows how water supply is supposed to be cut off in the Firetown due to safety reasons. Ember insists that everything she needs is right there in Firetown, but Clod recognizes that she needs something more. Something she is not acknowledging yet, but her adventures will proceed to call her to. Heroes always reject the call to adventure first in the classic hero's journey, and this scene with Clod is little different.
Then a train starts to pass by with Ember pulling out an umbrella grumpily while we see Clod enjoy himself—once again showing how mixing elements can be beneficial.
This scene then proceeds to reflect how cities are often not built with minority groups in mind, be that mobility issues or sensory issues of large crowds. Ember says "Plus, the city is made with fire people in mind." to help establish that certain accommodations aren't set for her. This is a barrier she'll have to break through later in the film, but right now she is at a literal wall and threshold of water falling down on her.
(4/?)
Ember then mentions that it would take "an act of god" to take her to the city. This implies that her fire people have an active religion, which given how the blue flame is treated as sacred is likely the case. We do not see facsimiles of churches for other Elementals within the city throughout the later movie. This implies there was a cultural homogenization and gentrification within the setting where the fire people are still holding out to their spiritual beliefs as they're not quite integrated yet. Urbanized areas with high development and populations tend to get less religious over time, which adds to the themes in the movie. While I like to think there is a group of divine creator beings in this world—beings who designed their intelligent elemental people to be able to touch and benefit from intermingling, plus considering how we see no elemental animals to imply evolution—that is likely on a meta level the Pixar creators and animators themselves, this is likely just an off-hand comment which leads to the wham line:
>an act of God, or an act of CLOOOOD?
Which put the whole theater in a riot. The word Clos is very emphasized because this world needs more Clod. But moreover, it foreshadows the natural event that gets the main story between Ember and Wade (who brings her to the main city) in motion. Clod was the first to see that Ember needs a small push to become happy, but he was just too early in the story and it wasn't fated to be.
In conclusion: The establishing scene with Clod acts as a microcosm foreshadowing the whole movie and gives the biggest amount of world building for the setting. It shows how others can see what Ember needs before she could use her temper to tell herself.
Seriously, even the other side characters would be better marketing material. In some ways it is kinda funny though with just how out of touch the marketing department must be. Ironic that they're the ones killing the movie.
Seriously, even the other side characters would be better marketing material. In some ways it is kinda funny though with just how out of touch the marketing department must be. Ironic that they're the ones killing the movie.
It's cynical exec marketing. The themes are characters are adults. Concept is wacky, but there is no child character aside from clod.
>but there is no child character aside from clod.
This has to be part of it, Disney is probably panicking a little because Elemental isn't exactly a kids movie. Not that kids can't watch it but it's like they're not the target audience. As such, Disney is desperately trying to appeal to youth with the only kid charcter they have and failing hard.
And it's an old trick. Often PG-13 action movies would have a kid added not just to sell more tickets and to get kids to pester their parents into seeing it too, but to also sell toys. It's shallow, but the action movie child sidekick kept working.
Does it even work when the kid has like 3 scenes like the earthie up there tho
Three scenes and then use them for ads. It's fine. I remember reading that during production of Bring it On, they shot extra dance routines with the black school cheerleaders. They never intended to use it in the movie, just make it seem like they played a bigger role. The purpose was to make the movie look less like a white cheerleader movie and have broader appeal.
It's shills. Talking about the movie wasn't working, so Pixar is leaning into >don't you want to have sex with her? >you should go watch the movie so you can see more scenes of her!
It would work more if there was more "fan"art. I can't deny that Ember isn't attractive in someway. But I can't keep seeing the same renders and the one artists work.
Cinemaphile genuinely has the worst taste in waifus out of every board
people are in love with that new ugly netflix girl despite being everything wrong with female characters
Clod is the only child character in the film and children are supposed to be the movie's primary audience (even though pixar makes movies primarily aimed at childless woke millenial wine aunties.)
>shows up in one fricking scene >Pixar thinks that its a genius idea to market him as Disney comedy sidekick character who appears most of the movie quipping jokes >has dogshit design that already makes you hate it as soon you see it. >tries to ship it with main lead character, which already implies pedophilia bullshittery from writers
This art in general is weird. Most artist are able to translate Pixar characters into 2D fine but they look like they never left Pixars 3D modeling software. Buzzes cocaine eyes scare me.
Forced marketing gimmick by desperate company
>PLEASE SEE OUR MOVIE CLOD IS A MEME EVERYONE LOVES CLOD
Speak for yourself, I for one hope Pixar makes a Clod solo flick and really ramps up their merchandising budget. Can't wait to get my hands on a Clod Funko pop!
One of the most hideous character designs from a Disney/Pixar movie, rivaling Olaf.
Yes! We all love Clod here. Best character in the movie bro! What are ya, crazy?!
need fanart of him clodding over fire girl
>You want this, brat? Pathetic.
>not even spats look good on that shit character design
way to frick up pixar, what the hell
You might be gay.
What spats?
>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
How wade listens to it:
>TSS TSS TSS TSS TSS GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
You gonna burn alive doing that
Id rather die cumming and afraid then tired and alone
Is she blowing glass?
What happens if you accidentally breathe in?
you then breathe out then put your hands up then hands down, then back up twice
you won't do it again
It would be very painful.
for me
Fireland brand gum, so yes.
Well she's certainly not blowing Clod.
>when clod is on screen
That's when I shout out
>I LOVE CLOD!
He's just your average annoying minions tier macot/ kid self insert trojan horse to get the kids that are supposedly the core audience for pixar films to watch a chink's traumadumping movie about boring adult stuff.
What I really found odd was how people were ripping on that scene where he tries to hit on the fire girl. Like, were those twitter people ever kids? They never had a crush on an older girl?
Part of it was that Ember rejected him not for being a snotty kid, but because she doesnt racemix. Slightly implying shes fine with banging kids, but not racemixing
Ember would have been happy to frick CLOD if he was fire nation
>chink's traumadumping movie about boring adult stuff.
It seems as though Pixar is trying to cater to an older audience now instead of a general one with their last couple movies. Turning red was basically made for women in their late 20s/30s and this one is 2nd generation asian americans I guess.
>were those twitter people ever kids?
I assumed many of them are kids.
People were ripping on the now deleted instagram scene where they had fake people going crazy over the scene where he hits on her. Not the fact that he hit on her itself
Am I crazy but does he have Hitler hair
Omg he does
He should cuck Wade
>Trying to meme a piece of dirt
Man, Pixar is desperate.
Us Clodders can confirm he is. He makes me so clodded on, my dick is diamonds. May have to get my rocks off to clod34 again today.
Clodbros.
We're home.
He wearing clothing or is it just plants. I mean is this little boy naked . At first I thought it was a shirt and some shoes that I'm looking at it closer and it looks like it's just growing or mold. He's naked isn't he damn you Pixar. None of characters are wearing pants yet in the movie the parents of the fire girl had a baby in her belly so how did he get there how do they reproduce how do these things mix together I have so many questions
ITS CLODDIN TIME
Stand back, everyone! I'm beginning to clod!
Shouldn't have gotten the vax
Anon! Did you really need to clod all over the floor?
Someone call emergency services, anon here is having a stroke
water people eat water Sky people eat air fire people eat wood. The dirt / Earth people are made of wood and dirt so fire people eat dirt people body parts and what do dirt people eat mud?
By pretending to pretend that Clod is popular, despite no one knowing who the frick Clod was before that "the whole theater cheered!" tiktok, they've sown the seeds for him to get the Morbin' Time treatment with 2 additional layers of studio-funded irony.
I just want some /ss/ porn with him and Ember
if they make a short with this premise i will spend my life savings on tickets
>Lived long enough to see Pixar trying to force memes to boost ticket sales.
It’s just a studio desperately trying to turn a character that shows up for five seconds into a meme, like Star Wars and those fricking porgs that never took off like the studio wanted
There's no way pixar would actually try to force this meme on channel 4
I think thats the joke
Who?
industry plant, literally
hes got that rizz
Is Clod actually little baby gronk?
Clod is the character of all time
i hate this meme
Most people don't use it right
I hate most memes that consistent of broken quirky english.
Saw the movie 9 times just to see clod
I hate Clod
>Hating Clod
>Gumball pic
Get better tastes, zoom zoom
GET CLODDED!
WTF DID YOU JUST SAY homosexual?!
Why yes my fellow Cinemaphilener of Cinemaphile!
Clod is the best character and a great meme joke!
Why I feel like watching the movie Elemental™ again, you should go watch it too!
>Mister Llihs
Wait a minute... that isn't Mister Llihs... you're Mister Snrub!
I LIKE THE WAY RAXIP THINKS!
Nah, he's Mr. Bolainas.
In about 5 months, Mickey Mouse will go in public domain.
What's to prevent Disney from extending the copyright again?
NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
Isn't it just Steamboat Willie and that's why they're putting him in a new WWoMM episode, to extend the copyright?
There’s still The Gallopin' Gaucho.
Once January comes around, we’ll tout it as the greatest thing since sliced bread just to confuse Disney.
I love Clod! I LOLed so hard whenever he was on screen!
i want to plant a big carrot in his ass, like really big.
He's a bunny or what?
OH MY GOOOOOOD
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He is with diggers
It's ironically very astroturfed
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOD
I'M GONNA CLOOOOOOOOOD
>Make an intentionally bad fake reaction
>The Internet latches on because of how bad it was and keeps it alive
Why hire marketers when you can get autists to do it for free?
Because autists also say shit like
.
It's a risky gamble
Yeah that really worked out for Morbius.
It got a whole re-release thanks to the meme
>It got a whole re-release thanks to the meme
yes the studio invested harder because of the meme, and made none of it back because people shitposting about your product doesn't actually translate to sales
So in other words, the Disney marketers knew exactly what they were doing and played 4D chess vs all of us.
I feel this is exactly how the Grimace milkshake is a “trend” at the moment, I don’t wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist but I feel like these companies know how to manufacture discussion
>I don’t wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist but I feel like these companies know how to manufacture discussion
Anon, that's the most milquetoast "conspiracy" theory ever. It's pretty much true.
That's just how social media as a whole works nowadays, stop acting like realizing most peoples brains function the same way is some conspiracy theory, you'll feel a lot less like a schitzoid.
Besides, I thought the Grimace thing initially kicked off because they made some Game Boy game and that caught the interest of zoomers who like "the retros." I don't think McDonalds planned for TikTok to turn the Grimace shake into some pseudo-horror trend, but they're shameless enough to embrace it.
Cringe marketing must be their new MO. They realize if they make something cringe enough, people will make content making fun of it, which works as free advertising. All of those people making fun of the grimace shake on tiktok went to McDonalds to buy Grimace shakes to film their video. If the CLOD meme catches on, people will start buying tickets to Elemental to film themselves getting hysterical in the theater when CLOD shows up for TikTok. Disney marketers are playing all of us. They 4D chessed us all. Discussion of this movie would be completely dead without the astroturfed "EMBER IS THE HOTTEST WAIFU" threads and the cringe CLOD meme. They must be using AI to come up with these marketing strategies, because it is too intelligent for the morons at Disney to come up with themselves. The AI knows us better than we know ourselves.
>If the CLOD meme catches on, people will start buying tickets to Elemental to film themselves getting hysterical in the theater when CLOD shows up for TikTok.
they'll just upload the whole movie as a 50MB webm on discord like they did with Morbius
I hate that gays/trolls here will play right into it because it's okay to be a tool if you're ironically doing it, right?
>That's just how social media as a whole works nowadays, stop acting like realizing most peoples brains function the same way is some conspiracy theory, you'll feel a lot less like a schitzoid.
It's not a conspiracy theory, that's how marketing works. They find something that works and then exploit it. Outrage marketing was their former trend. It seems purposeful cringe marketing is their new trend when they realized outrage marketing stopped working after racebent LA little mermaid bombed despite all the free publicity their outrage marketing generated.
>Outrage marketing
It doesn't work long term because after the outrage phase, what follows is indifference and insensitivity. People just check out of the media and learn not to consume it from that company next time, which is what's happening to Disney after they sabotaged Star Wars and now while not entirely their fault they'll also take the blame for Marvel's decline, even others tactics as social shaming by getting dragged to the movies by their gf/wife aren't that effective anymore because right now men are checking out in masse, relationships and marriage rates are at all time low, particularly between the young population
Also, TLM mermaid bombed because this time they pissed off white women, men don't care about Disney princess shit and they all were probably laughing their ass off out of the whole fiasco because this time it wasn't an IP that they care about the one getting sabotaged this time
Since when has Hollywood ever cared about the long term? All they care about is immediate profits and what have you done for me lately?
Disney has destroyed their brand with too much constant divisive outrage marketing. If they were longterm thinkers they would have varied their strategy so that outrage marketing lasted longer. Now their films are causing outrage, but they've pissed off both sides to the point no one is paying to see their movies. Conservs think they're too woke and stopped going. Libs think they aren't woke and progressive enough and stopped going. Moderates associate Disney with child groomers. The outrage marketing campaign lead to short turn profits but long term brand damage.
>Libs think they aren't woke and progressive enough and stopped going.
I haven't heard this. Are you using woke in some new way?
>I haven't heard this. Are you using woke in some new way?
That's why disney movies are bombing. There was even a time early next year when the LGBTQ+ lobby was calling for a boycott of Disney after they put Turning Red on Disney+ instead of releasing it in theaters. If woke progressives were still watching Disney movies in theaters, their movies wouldn't be financial bombs that they are.
>early next year
*early last year
Turning Red was controversial because before its release, in the wake of the "don't say gay bill", it made rounds that Disney was donating to conservative, anti-liberal, orgs to play both sides and lobby for special treatment and protect profit. They pulled financial support for the GOP and then became targeted by the GOP. This should be revealing of the pay for play nature of our system of legal bribery, but instead it's spun to be purely a story of "the LGBTQ+ lobby". You're protecting the people who profit from this.
Disney is full of fricking shit and is a totally fake corporate overlord.
I'm not right by any means but I hope DeSantis knocks their shit down a peg.
You're not anything, you're just moronic. You have feelings and can't even acknowledge basic facts in front of you, just double down based on how the vibes are off at Disney. There are more effective ways and knocking down corporate overlords that isn't to the tune of "keep giving us money even though your employees gay friends and family feel less safe as I label just acknowledging the existence of gays in class rooms as 'grooming' and imply it's only to sexually assault children". The policy, regulation, taxes, and other solutions are thrown out here.
Is this even English? I re-read this post like five times and still can't understand what this person is trying to say.
>You have feelings and can't even acknowledge basic facts in front of you, just double down based on how the vibes are off at Disney.
What?
>keep giving us money even though your employees gay friends and family feel less safe
What the frick does this have to do with anything I said?
>The policy, regulation, taxes, and other solutions are thrown out here.
what????? I posted about DeSantis taking away some of Disney's power to be a bullshit corporate overlord that lies to people.
What the frick does any of that have to do with that haha. Are you okay?
Facts don't care about your feelings.
that poster might be mentally moronic. smells of "got called a snowflake once and their brain bricked".
I think you meant to respond to this
And I assure you, gay 5 year olds do not feel less safe in schools now because teachers can't teach them about their genitals being genderless anymore.
The bill targets topics of sexual orientation vaguely and it says the purpose of the bill is to give parents control of what kids know about gays.
>requires such procedures to reinforce fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing & control of their children
It's there in Bill 1557 and it was expanded to high schools in April. There are ways to protect 5 year olds from inappropriate genital based education, but that's not what's being opposed. You morons keep returning to fake points like that because you have no reason you feel comfortable explaining in public to support it.
Two tickets for Peter Sohn's Elemental, please.
Turning Red is controversial because it's about a girl hitting puberty and then selling her body to people in the girl's bathroom to buy tickets to a shitty boy band. And it ends with her family totally giving up on giving her direction and instead abandoning her to her own bad judgement. You can really tell that the Director and Screenwriter don't have any kids.
>selling her body to people in the girl's bathroom
I guess in the way Hello Kitty merch sells the body of a little white cat girl, sure, if you want to be fricking moron about it.
I wouldn't call myself a lib but the constant really garbage pandering is off putting because its not coming from a place of telling a genuine story but rather thinking "if we include a gay then well secure the alphabet audience".
Also it is completely empty virtue signalling. They cut it out of their Chinese and middle eastern releases. If Disney actually cared about spreading these messages they wouldn't pander to nations that are against those values. All Disney cares about is money. They hid Finn on the Force Awakens poster in China to appease their anti-black racism.
Disney actively pushed against gays in shows while Gravity Falls was running and they didn't have their first canon gay character until 2016. A lot of their creatives like gay people, are gay people, and just want to include gay characters. You being selectively cynical about them including something the execs have been pushing against for decades doesn't make sense beyond. You could say they loosened their grip as a form of appeasement while censoring and controlling overseas releases, but that's not an issue of "woke and progressive" that's just a censorship issue.
This thread of replies ultimate stems from the belief that liberals NEED to spend $20 and 2 hours to see something just because there's something "woke" about it and that's just revealing anon's moronation.
Its overcompensation of the lowest level
It's not though. The people working on Lightyear had to fight to get their lesbos. You're calling it compensation when it's just what happens when you give gay and gay friendly liberals creative freedom. The execs have been pushing against gays, they'd rather play it safe, but in the age of social media they don't want to be the anti-gay studio. They know there is a risk for a walkout and strike, not just a boycot. You're framing it as if it's the execs making these creative choices or the creatives suddenly feel the need to defend their company's gay brand.
It's weird, to appease you a gay liberal creative would have to read your mind and then pander to you by not including the gay character you were going to be cynical about.
Hmm maybe ive explained it incorrectly.
Character revisionism and bad writing made to push more diversity into media (or to self insert) always sucks.
It does nobody good. You think i care if i see another trans person in media if that seems to be their entire point for existing? Its always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like.
There are good gay characters but it explores more than their gay aspects. Plus i also recognise having trans characters rn kind of causes so much rage that its like pls
That's not how you worded it at all.
>bad writing is bad
Mind blowing.
>You think i care if i see another trans person in media if that seems to be their entire point for existing? Its always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like.
Please give some examples. You morons complain about this and the only example anyone can come up with is Shoreleave and everyone loves him.
Idk, whats wrong with what i said? Idk who shoreleave is, but every time theres a trans person its always trauma and shit. Theres that comic recently where they introduced a character by censoring their deadname like come on man.
Only good trans character i can think of is Bridgette but thats not a comic.
You're not giving any examples, you're vaguely referencing what I'm guessing is something you found through a clickbait headline.
Are you trolling or are you really a kid who's new to Cinemaphile?
Im not trolling i read the pages on a different board and to me its just like "oh ok you've made them trans to hide the shitty writing"
Also i gave an example of a good character. But idk
Read basically any description from here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_trans_characters
Its all "x person is trans and their arc is about being trans"
The first one listed is Alice from Superjail! you fricking moron. You're letting memes rot your brain.
I said most not all read through the comic ones.
Whatever its my perception based on what i see. Idc
So you're perception is based on a Wikipedia page about trans characters that has a note about their transness written by wikivirgins and you treat that as their only descriptor in the context of the comics they're in? Anon, you might actually be moronic.
I might be moronic but i still think lgbt characters are handled poorly basically every time theyre used.
>and to me its just like
You're making generalizations that keep getting proven wrong while not providing any examples.
shoreleave is trans? i though he was a based old school homosexual
>always quips about being gay or something which no one actually speaks like.
>There are good gay characters but it explores more than their gay aspects.
i have no idea what you are talking about
To be fair his entire character premise is being a camp gay stereotype who is more or less treated completely normally by the cast and is rarely directly called out for being gay in a way that feels preach or inclusive. His promiscuity is more or less treated with the same reactions as it would be with any other character in the show, which is why it’s so funny— he’s not “empowering” or anything, he’s just a regular ass weirdo in a show full of weirdos, and the fact that he’s a flamboyant gay only adds to the humor rather than becoming a statement about identity.
>he’s not “empowering” or anything, he’s just a regular ass weirdo in a show full of weirdos,
He's fighting elite super geniuses and keeping up with Brock Sampson. His gayness is empowering because being a super soldier badass doesn't make him "less gay", it's nothing that he turns off to fake a personality more expected for his line of work. He's himself, a flaming homosexual, and the "ugh that's your only personality" and the "don't shove it down our throats" morons have to deal with that, which is just a bonus.
And yes, you can see it as part of the joke, but the more you watch, the more genuine moments you get between him and the rest of the cast and the genuine respect they have for him. Others don't let him being gay get in the way of anything.
He's a dang joke on "Seaman" and how sailors were raunchy as hell, idk how this isn't clear with the show's other characters and how vulgar he is compared to (most of) them
>Bridgette
>young male groomed to live as female due to cultural pressure, not because he truly “felt like he was a woman”
>recently “confirmed trans”
>this is seen as a W for the troon cult
It was well written is my point. How does moral alignment dictate good writing!
>Disney actively pushed against gays in shows while Gravity Falls was running and they didn't have their first canon gay character until 2016. A lot of their creatives like gay people, are gay people, and just want to include gay characters. You being selectively cynical about them including something the execs have been pushing against for decades doesn't make sense beyond. You could say they loosened their grip as a form of appeasement while censoring and controlling overseas releases, but that's not an issue of "woke and progressive" that's just a censorship issue.
It simply means that Disney is full of shit. They pretend to be progressive, woke allies who want to represent the gay community, but they only insert gay characters in side scenes who can easily be edited out to appease foreign markets. Disney is only doing this to virtue signal and raise their ESG score with Vanguard and Blackrock. Disney hates actual black people, everyone saw how they treated John Boyega.
>This thread of replies ultimate stems from the belief that liberals NEED to spend $20 and 2 hours to see something just because there's something "woke" about it and that's just revealing anon's moronation.
Libtards and conservatards both don't want to see these shitty pandering Disney movies. Disney lost their base by trying to appease both sides at the same time. Corporations gonna corporation.
>It's not though.
It is though.
>The people working on Lightyear had to fight to get their lesbos
Yeah and they only displayed lesbian traits in a few short scenes that were easily edited out for foreign market cuts of the film.
>The execs have been pushing against gays
Not really, there was a leaked call to investors where executives from the Imagineering Tomorrow project who said they were explicitly pushing more gay everywhere, and that they wanted 50% of their new characters to be LGBTQ+ and BIPOCs.
>You're framing it as if it's the execs making these creative choices or the creatives suddenly feel the need to defend their company's gay brand.
It is. Victoria Alonso and the DIE chief executive who just got shitcanned were very public in saying they were pushing gay on the brand.
You're starting to sound like a paid Disney shill at this point.
They lost their base because people are having less expendable income, more options for entertainment, and a series of movies that fail to get anyone out to see them. If a gay or white character is included, it doesn't suck the writing talent out of good content.
>Not really, there was a leaked call to investors where executives from the Imagineering Tomorrow project who said they were explicitly pushing more gay everywhere, and that they wanted 50% of their new characters to be LGBTQ+ and BIPOCs.
That wasn't leaked you stupid Black person. That interview with an exec was doing damage control about how half her kids are queer so "if it were up to me" half the characters would be queer.
>DIE
Oh my God are you a Jordan Peterson moron?
>shill
You're seeing someone make a general accusation about something that supposedly happens all the time, but they aren't producing any examples. Am I just suppose to accept that bullshit uncritically to not be seen as a shill?
>They lost their base because people are having less expendable income, more options for entertainment, and a series of movies that fail to get anyone out to see them. If a gay or white character is included, it doesn't suck the writing talent out of good content.
that's a lot of cope there, guy
>That wasn't leaked you stupid Black person. That interview with an exec was doing damage control about how half her kids are queer so "if it were up to me" half the characters would be queer.
That was a leaked call. You sound like a pixie duster Disney shill.
>Oh my God are you a Jordan Peterson moron?
Do you deny the existance of Blackrock and Vanguard pushing DIE/ESG quotas? Do you know who Larry Fink is?
>You're seeing someone make a general accusation about something that supposedly happens all the time, but they aren't producing any examples. Am I just suppose to accept that bullshit uncritically to not be seen as a shill?
You're working incredibly hard to run damage control for Disney if you're doing it for free.
>the false idea that all press is good press
>false
>thread confirming how that shit works
It's been happening for fricking years. Every time you use the word "Boomer" or "Zoomer" you're peddling an old aggressive marketing campaign from Monster Energy.
The guys who made Smiling Friends did exactly this with "Conflictanon"/"Neopuritangay"
They made a bait graph and spammed it across Cinemaphile, Cinemaphile and /trash/ pretending it had already been a thing for years when it literally only just started out of nowhere, until anons started using "neopuritan" and talking about the show because "wow you know Smiling Friends has a craaaazy schizo?" and then about a week ago they talked about it in a video to make it a mainstream meme.
If you go into the archives you can literally find people calling it out as a psyop when it started being pushed. Except this was before the Oney guys talked about it on their channel, so people assumed it was just an attention prostitute trying to be Cinemaphile famous.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/134272393/#134277022
Link to the video in question?
How in the absolute frick are youtube normies aware of this? This homosexual isn't even a particularly well known schizo. Lee, sharktalegay and guy are some of the most well known and prolific here but nobody outside Cinemaphile would know who they are. Yet normies know about neopuritangay? How?
Have you never see any smiling friends threads? Everyone in there are oneyplays watching homosexuals
The neopuritan shit is astroturfed to hell
It was an advertising campaign
>since it came out
Okay I'm calling BULLSHIT. I watched Smiling Friends as soon as the megas dropped and browsed Cinemaphile's discussions, the closest was I Hate Smiling Friends but he was just a tryhard namegay who stopped posting eventually. Neopuritan spam started around November 2022, 2 years after the release of the pilot. We'd had plenty of Smiling Friends threads before the spammer showed up.
Anon
that is neopuritan gay. His entire bullshit is trying to pretend he's some ancient lolcow who's been around for ages to try and cement himself as important when he's some gay who's been around for less than 3 months
This bullshit takes over every SF thread
>scared to make Pim threads since they'll just get spammed with the same forced meme and no-one will actually talk about Pim or the show
>been banned before for asking him to please stop
The episode he's mainly targeted is the one where Pim is fleshed out the most as a character too, it shows he's not just a one dimensional blind optimist, and he's genuinely good at his job or at least trying his best to be. I just want to talk about it without getting drowned out by some dude sniffing his own farts.
I love Smiling Friends and I love Pim. It sucks ass some autist ruins those threads.
If it makes you feel better its not a smiling friends only problem.
Helluva Boss, anything moderately related to John K and Mitchels vs the Machines also have their resident spergs who can go ballistic at the drop of a hat and shut down any discussion.
A ton of cartoons have the same problem. Comics aren't safe either, Spiderman's been getting it as well, I blame the drama surrounding the Spiderverse.
>they can't stop me anyways
Stopping him is as easy as putting in a fricking wordfilter. Cinemaphile spammed the onions boys and onions men meme so hard it got wordfiltered. Why the frick is this allowed to go on when it's infinitely stupider?
>onions boys
frick they done got me. You know what I mean.
>That 2X year old boomer that...
I really wish the worst possible shit on the person that was responsible for that spam.
A bit of some rambling, there's a guy that's insanely mentally ill, in a community that I frequent, and he won't go for 5 seconds without harassing and threatening anyone he stupidly assumes is a zoomer and uses that word constantly. It's even more frequent than the number of times Tarry Davis rants about 'CIA Black folk'. If the boomer shit never took off, I would likely never have to deal with his really really really annoying shit.
Boomer also led to Consoomer, which led to basedjak. Enough said about that.
The schizo I have to deal with everyday, and the entire shit relating to jakposting would never have happened, if they put the bare minimum and added a word filter to the boomer shit.
>'Made for [British Broadcasting Corporation]' still not filtered
>'chud' on namefield still not filtered
>[that one catchphrase that the resident, ban-evading shitposter uses all the time, in your favorite general] still not filtered
Grimmyshake is natural zoomers love doing this random shit spontaneously think of the minions movie or Sichuan sauce.
Clod however, is pure marketing cringe.
You're moronic if you think it was due to McDonalds. Yes, once it took off they tried to capitalize on it but it's pure moronic to think they started it or wanted it to start off that way
I'll give it to Mcdonald this time, the Grimace stuff has been fun
Yeah this is obviously just a good marketing joke.
The clod shit is not even comparable.
>Ronald completely absent
goodbye old friend.
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be fans of Clod will eventually be flooded by actual fans of Clod who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company." Renee DeClod.
When is Disney going to start making CLOD merch? The demand is huge- they got a new baby yoda on their hands if they play this right. I want an IT'S CLODDIN TIME shirt so bad no cap
Clod is very popular among the children
Whose kids are this and why do you keep posting them?
They're his kids, now.
No no, you don't understand, he keeps pictures of other people's kids on his hard drive so he can btfo people on a website known for its pedophiles.
YOU'RE the loser
Black person, me and you both know no self respecting pedo isn’t getting anywhere NEAR those three muttgobininos, they’re the safest ones from pedos
take a seat
jesus christ thats fricking disgusting
>muttgoblins like a shit-coloured creature character
CHECKS
OUT
>mfw
>American children are so visually similar to the dirt people that they resonate with them irl
Pixar is a marketing genius. Come October, these kids won't even need costumes if they want to go out trick or treating as Clod.
Clods a homosexual. The only good thing to come out of this movie is the porn of the fire b***h.
it sounds like that time again
If Milhouse is a meme, Clod is popular.
couldn't believe what i was seeing watching that video
this thing was the reason i stopped watching one of the trailers
HOLY SHIT CLOD
I LOVE CLOD
CLOD CLOD CLOD
Jesus christ did every character designer over at pixar had their parents raped and killed by a sharp angle?
This motherfricker is nothing but circles. Even his teeth are circles
What Pixar character exatly has edges? They're not designed by genndy. Best I can think of is Wall-E but he's a cube boi.
A lot of the incredibles character have angular features like on the nose.
Fair example i'll give you that. I feel like that's the exception though. Other Pixar films never seemed that angular to me. Woody and Buzz aren't very angular.
when miss teacher said do the pledge of allegiance i said "Clod" instead of "flag" and everyone went :O XD
Ironically, he's become a meme about forced marketing
How do you not know Clod? He's famous for trafficking minors oversea.
He is the best character.
Clod's been popular on Cinemaphile from day one dude. Everyone here posts Clod all the time, he's the most memorable thing about that movie.
No, it's Disney literally paying ppl to laugh and cheer at clod showing up on screen, then spamming a video of it on Twitter and TikTok as if it's not the most blatant and pathetic marketing ever
Bruh the movie isn't even popular.
CLOD SUCKS
Every time Clod was on screen I fricking lost it. I was writhing in my seat with ever scene transition, my brain firing off in every way Clod could be involved, if only just with his named mentioned by the characters. Every plot point I could see as pivotal around him. He'd show up and have the answer. He'd be the grass on the lawn that had been waiting to that moment to steal the scene, the movie, the whole experience. Even now I am piecing together fanfics, masterworks, all consistent and in line with him as he is in the film, bringing more life into an already vibrant entity. I have so much to show you.
Convinced me to wait for a pirated version.
Honestly, I'd love to see a spinoff show in Disney+ about Clod. Love that adorable little rascal!
Who's with me, Clodbros?
CLOD IS A FRICKING CLOD
I think he literally is
Anons think they've outsmarted marketers, only to play right into their hands.
Clod is the most important tertiary character in Elemental, and encapsulates its themes, soul, as well as worldbuilding.
Let's break it down.
Where do we first see Clod: in a casual repose, where Ember reveals he's not quite encouraged to be there by the shop or in firetown. Clod is a trailblazer and rules breaker cutting through the self imposed boundaries the elements have with each other.
Now what is his first line? "Yo, yo, yo, Ember." This subtly and immediately contextualizes the main theme of the movie comparing Fire people with Asian immigrants, as one of the most famous Asians alive is named Yo-yo (Ma)—quite the marvelous metonymy mingling with the metaphor.
His second line is "Why? Come on. He doesn't like my landscaping?" Despite it being at this point where I have to listen past the cheers in the theater and the smell of soil pulled out in honor of the greatest character Pixar ever put to screen, I can still see the tantamount importance of this line. In this city, reputation and holding up appearances matter. In many ways Bernie Lumen has fought hard to hold up his personal reputation as well as the quality of his shop. The keen eye will observe that he pulls out a weird comb: It has three points on one side where he combs his grass, and a fourth circular point on a separate from the rest, which seems very reflective of where the elements are now with Water, Earth, and Air being mostly integrated while fire being included but keeping to itself. Much like the topic of this conversation.
>Where does the comb disappear to when he is done using it? That hoodie doesn't have pockets. It's magic, much like we have yet to see the magic happen in this movie.
Then Clod proceeds to move the conversation along.
>Anyway
Clod is a stickler for correct grammar, despite people using Anyways more nowadays.
(More analysis to come)
>June Bloom is coming up
This establishes both some world building, where the Elemental city is shown to operate on the Gregorian Calendar, perhaps even having elemental equivalents to the Roman God Juno. An Elemental Roman empire equivalent helps add a touch of verisimilitude to the world with implications of conquests, colonializing, and religions.
Moreover, June is a thematically significant part of the year, marking a change of the season into summer, much like the change Ember and Wade are due to have over the next few days that would lead to a flourishing prime of their life.
On top of that, the rhyming of June with Bloom is an example of the various elemental puns they have scattered throughout the film, both in background details like food named "Falafuel" or cereal named "Flameos" but in the very core character names.
But most importantly, it serves as foreshadowing to the flower motif that is embedded throughout the story, both with the glass flowers Ember creates throughout the film but also in the flower display Ember wanted to see as a child.
>And you just got to be my date.
Clod is the first to recognize one of Ember's issues: where she is not letting herself past her fears and break her comfort zone.
>Check it out, I'm all grown up
Once again, this ties to the themes of moving past the spring of your life and into the unfamiliar territory of Adulthood. He is both recognizing it in himself, and projecting it upon Ember, who is struggling with this issue on a personal level.
Clod then proceeds to sniff, much like you will as you hold back tears by the time Bernie says "You are the dream"
>And I smell good
Clod reminds the single losers watching that hygiene is important and you should probably aim to smell good as it attracts the ladies.
(2/? still to be continued)
Clod then proceeds to gift Ember a flower that is purple and yellow. On top of being classically complimentary colors that would serve to represent the contrast of elements to be seen in this story, it has multiple other meanings. One that yellow flowers are associate with friendship, good health, and respect. The friendship Ember is missing, the Good Health that Bernie has diminishing, and the respect Ember yearns for, even if unknowingly.
Purple flowers are associated with Pride, Success, and Refinement, all foreshadowing Wade's involvement in the story. As the color of royalty, it represents the position of privilege Wade has with his family. The success Ember would find with her demonstrated glass blowing skills and job offer. The pride that becomes a part of those Ember impress between Wade, Gale, the parents, and others in the story.
This intermingling of significant colors demonstrate the strength one gets from the combination within the story, bringing out the best in each other.
This flower doesn't burn immediately upon Ember's touch, much like how Wade will not burn to Ember's touch later in the film, nor how other things like the paper brochure [So your business is shutting down] would burn either. Ember, in a conceited effort of trying to let down Clod easy gives an extra step to burn the flower. That delay is important.
In order to pull out this flower, Clod endures a small amount of pain. Everyone knows sacrifices are an essential part of any relationship. Sure he says ow, but he's a tough guy who knows it's worth the effort for his Queen. And that's another thing: Clod is the only non-fire elemental person who doesn't call Ember or other fire people some variation of a fire related slang, like Wade calling Ember hot/smoking or what Gale says later. No extraneous titles, just "My Queen" which is pure respect. (3/?)
When Clod later sees Ember have a relationship with Wade, the water guy, he doesn't become tempted by the pitfalls of petty jealousy like a lesser man, but instead moves on with his life and eventually finds his new Queen who doesn't reject his advances.
What did Ember say upon rejecting his proposal for a date? "Elements don't mix." This is indicative of Ember's own prejudices that she will have to face on her own throughout the movie.
Then Ember says the F word and says she "gotta go" as she notices her timer to beat Bernie's record is still ticking.
Clod, still recognizing that Ember has to work through some things insists anyway.
"you never leave this part of town"
Both points out a small problem Ember has with leaving her comfort zone, and foreshadows how water supply is supposed to be cut off in the Firetown due to safety reasons. Ember insists that everything she needs is right there in Firetown, but Clod recognizes that she needs something more. Something she is not acknowledging yet, but her adventures will proceed to call her to. Heroes always reject the call to adventure first in the classic hero's journey, and this scene with Clod is little different.
Then a train starts to pass by with Ember pulling out an umbrella grumpily while we see Clod enjoy himself—once again showing how mixing elements can be beneficial.
This scene then proceeds to reflect how cities are often not built with minority groups in mind, be that mobility issues or sensory issues of large crowds. Ember says "Plus, the city is made with fire people in mind." to help establish that certain accommodations aren't set for her. This is a barrier she'll have to break through later in the film, but right now she is at a literal wall and threshold of water falling down on her.
(4/?)
Ember then mentions that it would take "an act of god" to take her to the city. This implies that her fire people have an active religion, which given how the blue flame is treated as sacred is likely the case. We do not see facsimiles of churches for other Elementals within the city throughout the later movie. This implies there was a cultural homogenization and gentrification within the setting where the fire people are still holding out to their spiritual beliefs as they're not quite integrated yet. Urbanized areas with high development and populations tend to get less religious over time, which adds to the themes in the movie. While I like to think there is a group of divine creator beings in this world—beings who designed their intelligent elemental people to be able to touch and benefit from intermingling, plus considering how we see no elemental animals to imply evolution—that is likely on a meta level the Pixar creators and animators themselves, this is likely just an off-hand comment which leads to the wham line:
>an act of God, or an act of CLOOOOD?
Which put the whole theater in a riot. The word Clos is very emphasized because this world needs more Clod. But moreover, it foreshadows the natural event that gets the main story between Ember and Wade (who brings her to the main city) in motion. Clod was the first to see that Ember needs a small push to become happy, but he was just too early in the story and it wasn't fated to be.
In conclusion: The establishing scene with Clod acts as a microcosm foreshadowing the whole movie and gives the biggest amount of world building for the setting. It shows how others can see what Ember needs before she could use her temper to tell herself.
Why are you autistic
Kino, keep going.
I wonder what killing clod feels like.
You can’t kill dirt.
Dry dirt just crumbles
> Have 10/10 waifu on your movie
>Decide to meme a literal who
PR department is full of idiots
Seriously, even the other side characters would be better marketing material. In some ways it is kinda funny though with just how out of touch the marketing department must be. Ironic that they're the ones killing the movie.
It's cynical exec marketing. The themes are characters are adults. Concept is wacky, but there is no child character aside from clod.
>but there is no child character aside from clod.
This has to be part of it, Disney is probably panicking a little because Elemental isn't exactly a kids movie. Not that kids can't watch it but it's like they're not the target audience. As such, Disney is desperately trying to appeal to youth with the only kid charcter they have and failing hard.
And it's an old trick. Often PG-13 action movies would have a kid added not just to sell more tickets and to get kids to pester their parents into seeing it too, but to also sell toys. It's shallow, but the action movie child sidekick kept working.
But those are actions movies. I don't think it's a working strategy with romcoms.
Wacky animated romcoms maybe.
Three scenes and then use them for ads. It's fine. I remember reading that during production of Bring it On, they shot extra dance routines with the black school cheerleaders. They never intended to use it in the movie, just make it seem like they played a bigger role. The purpose was to make the movie look less like a white cheerleader movie and have broader appeal.
Does it even work when the kid has like 3 scenes like the earthie up there tho
The praise for Ember is weird, Cinemaphile shat on her before the movie came out
We didnt know she was a based and redpilled anti-elementmixing fiaryan waifu back then
She's better in motion.
It's shills. Talking about the movie wasn't working, so Pixar is leaning into
>don't you want to have sex with her?
>you should go watch the movie so you can see more scenes of her!
It would work more if there was more "fan"art. I can't deny that Ember isn't attractive in someway. But I can't keep seeing the same renders and the one artists work.
Cinemaphile genuinely has the worst taste in waifus out of every board
people are in love with that new ugly netflix girl despite being everything wrong with female characters
Clod is the only child character in the film and children are supposed to be the movie's primary audience (even though pixar makes movies primarily aimed at childless woke millenial wine aunties.)
Why is the animation so bad?
easily the most popular disney character since Elsa
Hey guys, remember Porgs? Porgs are the best, right? You should buy all the Porg items
>*gets grogu'd*
>shows up in one fricking scene
>Pixar thinks that its a genius idea to market him as Disney comedy sidekick character who appears most of the movie quipping jokes
>has dogshit design that already makes you hate it as soon you see it.
>tries to ship it with main lead character, which already implies pedophilia bullshittery from writers
Clod shows up twice in the movie, once at the beginning and once right before the credits during the monologue. Isn't the hype false advertising?
Maybe technically not false advertising but very stupid advertising. All he did was clod himself over hot chicks.
Clod unironically has a cute character design
I cannot believe we are in a reality where Pixar is now Morbius levels.
>Two-spirit
still appropriating native american stuff I see.
is he a shit elemental?
CLOD CHADS, WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT
who
Clodimus Prime
ARISE CLODIMUS
Jean Clod van Hot-Damn
No but he’s a freak.
Is there a character named Cloudia in this movie?
no
Zased
Mac Tonight is fricking great please bring him back god dammit
CLOD!
Does this Clod drink all your pepsi and call you a b***h?
Film yourself setting him on fire
Burn it with fire. It's Cloddin Time!
Its just asking for some hotgluing
Is there an Ember plush that he can Clod all over as well?
This pic still gets me. Like, whom is she fighting?
This art in general is weird. Most artist are able to translate Pixar characters into 2D fine but they look like they never left Pixars 3D modeling software. Buzzes cocaine eyes scare me.