>its not hoarding if its organized and on display
No its hoarding. You're holding onto garbage with an imagined value that keeps you from putting it in the trash
'Collecting' is likely born from some sort of trauma but it's not investigated because its 'normie behavior'
I dont get it because i dont have that desire to hoard useless garbage
>I dont get it because i dont have that desire to hoard useless garbage
What you mean is you don't have the desire to not be wasteful. That you don't have the desire to clean because you are lazy. You don't have the desire to sort and take care of your things. That it is easier for you to clean with a garbage sack and just rebuy things when you need them. That's what you really mean.
You also might have enough autism that 3 magazines on a coffee table overloads your senses causing you to sperg out.
You minimalist are worse than hoarders. You can not hide your mental illness. You just wild the hell out at something simple like 10 books on a bookshelf. You can't grasp how bonkers nuts you sound asking shit like "why would anyone want to own anything ever? Why even keep a book? Why have more than a single bowl you clean over and over again. And you always respond to criticism with exaggerations. 50 comics is always an overflowing hoard. 3 figures is always an obsession.
I don't even know why I waste time talking to you. You will never see why your crazy. You're just going to keep buying new waffle makers and putting them in the garbage when it's existence on the counter tingles your tism
If you want to be cynical about it. In its most extreme cases some people will drive themselves crazy collecting every issue or toy or whatever to complete a set. The best way to collect is to collect things that really mean something to you. Every few years go through your collection and see if it still holds happy memories to you or not. Keep your own serenity in mind and don’t let your collection control you and you’ll be fine,
Honestly this is the best method. No need to collect every n64 game around. Just pap mario and yoshis story if they ment alot because it's all you had. There's even some personal history you can tell and that is a collection
These games originally run at 360p with 24 fps. You can emulate these games in 4K with unlocked frame-rate.
What's the point of owning the cartridges, especially since the battery inside will eventually leak and ruin the motherboard. CD at the very least will last forever.
You dumb jerkoff. OF COURSE ILL ALSO EMULATE THEM YOU IDIOT!
I'd be stupid if I didn't do that. I still want to have complete inbox copy of paper mario for the gamer shelf because I like to decorate my room... that's it
"Hoarding" is a highly overstated 'disorder' made to medicalize those who collect and own and plan for the future in order to shame or correct them into owning nothing, very few people described as hoarders actually have disordered tendencies that harm them or others, but those who do not get lumped in with the few extreme cases in order to facilitate the idea that desiring to own things you love and keep them is a mental illness in need of fixing
>"Hoarding" is a highly overstated 'disorder' made to medicalize those who collect and own and plan for the future in order to shame or correct them into owning nothing,
Why? No one actually wants the shit horders own.
When your kids inherit it they're going to throw away everything they can't sell for a pretty buck.
>so what? Just be an old person with three chairs and a pot to piss in?
Yes. And my kids will inherit the house, and money I didn't blow on stupid shit no one wants.
>Yes. And my kids will inherit the house, and money I didn't blow on stupid shit no one wants.
frick those kids.
If they are so disconnected from me that they dont care about any of the stuff I enjoyed and just want extract wealth from my corpse, they can frick off. They're not entitled to whatever trifling sum is left in my bank account and to sell my house. Let them go get wrecked. I'm not just going to NOT enjoy my life sot hey can sell my house easier.
>I live for myself not for my kids
You have a disease. That's why you hoard. Normal people just buy the stuff they'll need and use, and keep their houses tidy. No sane person wants to live in an home full of boxes, dust, bread crumbs, and vermin for the sake of owning random useless junk.
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>You have a disease. >Sir you have a disease stop! Stop didn't you hear me say you have a disease? That means you don't know anything and aren't in control you're insane let me help you I SAID LET ME HELP YOU STOP LIVING THE WAY YOU WANT IMMEIDATELY, SIR! SIR STOP THAT! SIR YOU CAN'T JUST DO THINGS YOU LOVE THAT NEITHER HARM YOU NOR OTHERS, YOU HAVE A DISEASE YOU HAVE TO STOOOP! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!
Lol. Lmao. Perhaps even a gentle roflcopter. Soi soi soi soi soi.
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>soi
I prefer milk actually.
And I don't mind some people being sick in the head, it's just the reality we live in. And if you want to sleep next to a garbage pile that's your choice. I'm still going to make fun of people like you though.
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>He's such a newbie that when he reads 'roflcopter soi soi soi soi soi' he thinks of the modern bean-based-beverage meme
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>Doctor in the thread
Doctor in the thread
Begone, merchant of evil
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You fricking normie
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>You have a disease. That's why you hoard. Normal people just buy the stuff they'll need and use, and keep their houses tidy. No sane person wants to live in an home full of boxes, dust, bread crumbs, and vermin for the sake of owning random useless junk.
I'm sorry one or both of your parents were slops or you have autism and a normal amount of stuff gives you sensory problems.
But you keep responding to things in rather extreme ways making you look just as fruity as the hoarders.
The key is moderation. The key is cleaning. The key is spring cleaning and donating.
You are also an butthole, expecting the elderly to donate their cups, bowls, furniture etc and live in an empty home just to remove some work for their kids when they die. If you want your grand parents to live in an empty house to save you some work, you are a narcissist. Let them keep their coffee pot and drink their coffee and love their little old life, and when they die get off your lazy ass and settle their estate. Yes, put down the games, and porn, and new shows on Netflix and get off your ass and deal with the process of having a family.
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>The key is moderation. >You are also an butthole, expecting the elderly to donate their cups, bowls, furniture etc and live in an empty home just to remove some work for their kids when they die.
All I'm expecting out of people, is to get stuff that they'll use and get rid of stuff they don't use.
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>All I'm expecting out of people, is to get stuff that they'll use and get rid of stuff they don't use.
There is a lot more nuance to this than you realize. Time is a big factor.
Your outlook is equally nuts when taken to an extreme. Like literally get rid of everything you're not using today? Got 4 cups throw 3 away? Not used your hammer recently, throw it away? Haven't used that 3rd set of sheets this month, throw it away? Don't use the back seat floor mats, throw them away?
Like how far do you go with it? How long in your mind can things go unused before it is trash time?
And yeah, the other extreme where you have 150 used McDonald's cups because God knows why is just as bad. Everyone here knows it is bad. Having 100 star wars paperbacks in your floor is also bad. But one extreme is not the cure for the other. For most people one is just a trauma response to the other.
Granny having 50 records and a bookshelf isn't hurting you. Sack up and deal with it when she dies. If she has a room with 300 boxes of unused cake mix that it another story
I don't care if my children sell my comics to people who want them, I got my use out of them. The joy I got in life finding actual good comics in used book stores will be passed on to a new generation
Silver Age DC comics are worthless, the only DC stuff that has value is the Golden Age comics. Marvel has some valuable Silver Age key issues but that's it.
This is me at my late father's house right now... plus I got my comics and shit in storage. And I started working on iy when I came home to take care of him as he got sick.
>When your kids inherit it they're going to throw away everything they can't sell for a pretty buck.
so what? Just be an old person with three chairs and a pot to piss in?
Ever go to one of those estate sale stores? It's just shelves full of everything you see at your grandma's place. You can figure out what decade this person bought all their tableware and furniture in by it. Lots of 70s era brown, gold, and lime green macrome crap. Sometimes you can find some old stuff, but usually it's 40s years before current year on average.
But really, what are people supposed to do with decades old, out of date, and often poorly kept up with household junk? When they already have their own slightly more modern household junk?
>"Hoarding" is a highly overstated 'disorder' made to medicalize those who collect and own and plan for the future in order to shame or correct them into owning nothing, very few people described as hoarders actually have disordered tendencies that harm them or others, but those who do not get lumped in with the few extreme cases in order to facilitate the idea that desiring to own things you love and keep them is a mental illness in need of fixing
pretty much.
Think about what shows also played alongside hoarders. Stuff like pawn stars, how flippers, American pickers. With lots of ads for new products.
Companies want to buy a ton of shit, take it home, throw it away and buy a ton more shit. If you fill your house you don't have space for more shit.
Even better, get you so raddled with ownership guilt that you forgo the act of owning anything and just rent services. Pay for streaming services. Save up and spend all your money on vacations. Don't buy things you enjoy and keep them in your house. Throw them away and then spend $6000 on a family vacation to disney world.
Yup, ever seen a minimalist or one of those consumers who buy everything new? They actually owned more things than 'hoarders', and many of them even owned more things than actual genuine hoarders ever did, over the course of their life. They just think it's better if they throw out that shit constantly and buy new. They love "decluttering" as a charade to pretend like they're not hoarding, and they buy more. Ever seen one of those decluttering processes, either irl or on video? They own tons of stuff they bought and used once or twice, or never, can't wait for it go to bad or old so they can throw it out, and then buy new. But that's perceived as fine, respectable even. It's just hoarding but without the fear of throwing out, only the buying, keeping and constant need for new things tendencies, which I'd argue is way worse.
>Yup, ever seen a minimalist or one of those consumers who buy everything new? They actually owned more things than 'hoarders', and many of them even owned more things than actual genuine hoarders ever did, over the course of their life.
Yep. Have a friend like that. Waste so much money to avoid hoarding. She will use throw away tin baking dishes just to avoid owning and cleaning a casserole dish. So she throws away 4 to 7 of them a week. Also gets her kids a LOT of prepackaged food just to avoid washing dishes. And I'm not talking pop tarts that have to come prepackaged. I'm talking mini donuts and applesauce. She will give them a pack of 3 mini donuts and a gosauce pack of applesauce every morning. Like, just buy a jug of sugar and a sack of mini donuts. The freezer is also packed with freezer meals that produce a lot of trash just to avoid owning and washing plates.
Anti hoarding, declutter types create so much trash, it's crazy. Like buy the big box and wash a plate. It's easy, just wash the plate. You don't need 30 individually wrapped Oreos. Just get the family pack and wipe the fricking crumbs up
Haha yesh my friend who filled his house eith games he doesnt have the consoles to play any longer and false scarecity funko pops isnt a hoarder and its not a mental illness or cope brought on by his shitty mom or dead dad
>shitty mom or dead dad
to be fair, barb's hoarding issue is FAR worse than chris'. at least chris makes an attempt to make his own living space semi-bearable
Best comparison is me and my wife, I collect a few different things (Godzilla, Ghost Rider, Boris Karloff Frankenstein stuff, but I’m very selective about what I buy I don’t just go out and grab every last piece of merch I can find and I bought display cases to keep that stuff in, I can sit in the den and frick around on PlayStation or watch a movie then turn and look at my collections and think to my self “I got some cool shit”.
But my wife grew up in a hoarding situation to the point that when her mom passed they did a cleanup and hauled eight or nine of dumpsters worth of junk out of the house and I’m not talking the normal dumpsters you see outside a business or school I’m talking the big motherfrickers that they load onto a flatbed that they use on construction sites, and in the end my father-in-law still had to have the house demolished because between the junk and the animal shit it was unsalvagable, unfortunately my wife picked up the habit where her mom left off, luckily I’ve managed to keep it contained to the guest room but lately it’s been spreading to other rooms so her dad and sisters plan to help intervene before it gets worse and hopefully clean some of that shit out
i began collecting dvds of animated movie because movies can vanish from streaming platforms, and the dvds have extras and minigames, some even come with booklets explaining how the movie was made.
Hoarding is a 20th century illness. Its born from the mental illness known as nostalgia which started with boomers.
Break the cycle, accept that you enjoyed thing but need to move on. You dont need to hold it for your kid to enjoy.
>You're not allowed to collect or own anything, that's hoarding >You're not allowed to have interest in anything, that's problematic nostalgia >Your only life interest should be wage slaving for billionaires to exploit you
It's about time people realized actual mental illness used to be rare, and what we call "mental illness" nowadays is just people expressing normal symptoms of living life >"I'm a first grader and like to run and play and not sit through 8 hours of math" >"ADHD! TIME FOR A LIFELONG DRUG ADDICTION, LITTLE BOY!" >"Hey, you notice how some stuff the government tells us to do isn't in our own benefit?" >"SCHIZOPHRENIA! LOCK HIM UP!" >"I'm sad because of real world circumstances that can be fixed with a change of lifestyle" >"Pfft, lifestyle? Real world circumstances? No such thing, IT'S DEPRESSION, PILLS NOW NOW NOW!"
I love when someone posts something like this, and the best retort people like (you) have is just to prove them right
I swear self awareness requires a level of intellect most of Cinemaphile doesn't have
Well yeah, that's corpos trying to find as many avenues of profit as possible. And nobody really does anything about it beyond going "oh ok" so it's just gonna keep getting worse. Watching tv will probably be considered a mental illness in the next decade too.
Are you kidding me? Watching TV is one of the few things that WON'T be considered an illness because it's already profitable
Illnesses get invented either when there's profit to be made, or when there's "dangerous" people to silence
Well that and they tried claiming it was a dangerous addiction back in the early 70s. People didn't care and moved on to claiming video games were a dangerous addiction instead in the early-mid 80s. These scary warnings only work if you can get the soccer moms involved ans take up the fight themselves in their own time with their own money. The government is 99% of the time perfectly willing to ignore everything if they can ignore it.
If some moron is just going to throw it on the floor like that, that's bad.
There's nothing wrong with liking things. There's nothing wrong with owning some entertaining books or comics or items. There is something wrong with trying to shame people into living a "restrict your possessions by the ounce" spartan life. Let people be happy. Remember to be tidy, and don't get caught up in thinking you can sell things around for "a fortune" later. Enjoy life.
>There's nothing wrong with liking things >t. Hoarder
Its okay to like things IN MODERATION
you dont need ALL the funko pops. There's no prize for collecting them all
to give a serious answer, I've seen legitimate cases of hoarding and i believe there are crucial differences vs just collecting a lot of things like comics. hoarders will accumulate redundant shit with no value or utility that's unrelated and ends up never used. like buying 15 toasters and leaving them all in their boxes never to be opened or used. there's a big difference between that and collecting many issues of a comic which are not identical, have an inherent collector's appeal and even a case to be made as an investment. the hoarder will never be able to reconcile their owning 15 boxed toasters in a logical way but will nonetheless insist saying "what if i neeeeeed them one day" whereas it's easy to imagine rationalizing a comic collection.
that said you can obviously still be fricking cringe with collecting i.e. anyone who owns more than one funko pop, or frick even one is too many
collecting and hoarding are different but collecting can be it's own mental illness. I've seen this with old book readers on youtube and they have made some rules of thumb the most basic one being if you have to stack books to a point where if they toppled over they would crush you then you have too many books
Are you reading the shit you're getting or just getting it cause it's "valuable"
are you actually displaying them like books or just shoving them into cardboard boxes?
if it's only there to take space then yes
anyone who honestly believes everything old is worthless because "i have the more modern version!" no realizing the low standard modern good are built under is a full blown Black person idiot
No. It can lead to it but it depends on the person.
I have a strong level of sentimentality so I'm always towing the line. Right now I'm at a respectable 2 bookshelves of collected DVDs, CDs, and VHS tapes, most bought when I was in middle school, an then a decent amount just given to me, along with some mail packages I keep stuff I've collected inside of when bought online (signed posters, some figures, comics. I feel it helps keep things set aside in my closet.)
I do occasionally have the urge to hold onto things I don't actually need. When I go shopping with my friend I've held onto receipts not out of "if something needs to be returned" but because of that sentimentality. That nice feeling where I can look back and see what I bought together in the past. Like a spark of positivity/nostalgia. I don't do it for any other shopping. Technically just taking a picture after a purchase for personal keeping would do about the same. I also have a habit of trying to record a lot of stuff around me as keepsakes, which is kinda like digital hoarding. I have a lot of saved videos that are just me having set my phone on my table and recording a live broadcast of something I like (even if I had the ability to record broadcasts directly I'd probably still do this method because it shows a little of the surroundings of my room or such at the time which is better for memory.) At the very least it's also encouraged me to record more about stuff that actually matters like visiting places.
This is generally how hoarding becomes an issue. Attributing value or over-sentamentality to things you don't need. As long as my issue is just recording a lot of videos and constantly having to make room for them on external hard drives I think I'm fine. There's less and less stuff being broadcast I care about anyway.
Collecting in the current year is just a buying exercise. It was a hobby at one point, when you had to scour estate sales, flea markets, and garage sales to find anything of value, when the average normie couldn't look up the value of anything on his phone instantly, when you couldn't just find all of the known Spiderman comics in existence and just order one for whatever the price point is, sure back then collecting was a hobby. Now? No, I don't think it is, you can't build a collection of rare books through time and effort like you could once upon a time, the only way to do it now is to buy buy buy.
If you don't organize or display it yes. If you do no.
>its not hoarding if its organized and on display
No its hoarding. You're holding onto garbage with an imagined value that keeps you from putting it in the trash
'Collecting' is likely born from some sort of trauma but it's not investigated because its 'normie behavior'
I dont get it because i dont have that desire to hoard useless garbage
>I own nothing and I'm proud!
okay poorgay lol
>I'm the king of trash mountain
Might as well call all museums places of hoarding too ya moron
Imagine comparing long box collectors to museums.
>I dont get it because i dont have that desire to hoard useless garbage
What you mean is you don't have the desire to not be wasteful. That you don't have the desire to clean because you are lazy. You don't have the desire to sort and take care of your things. That it is easier for you to clean with a garbage sack and just rebuy things when you need them. That's what you really mean.
You also might have enough autism that 3 magazines on a coffee table overloads your senses causing you to sperg out.
You minimalist are worse than hoarders. You can not hide your mental illness. You just wild the hell out at something simple like 10 books on a bookshelf. You can't grasp how bonkers nuts you sound asking shit like "why would anyone want to own anything ever? Why even keep a book? Why have more than a single bowl you clean over and over again. And you always respond to criticism with exaggerations. 50 comics is always an overflowing hoard. 3 figures is always an obsession.
I don't even know why I waste time talking to you. You will never see why your crazy. You're just going to keep buying new waffle makers and putting them in the garbage when it's existence on the counter tingles your tism
If you want to be cynical about it. In its most extreme cases some people will drive themselves crazy collecting every issue or toy or whatever to complete a set. The best way to collect is to collect things that really mean something to you. Every few years go through your collection and see if it still holds happy memories to you or not. Keep your own serenity in mind and don’t let your collection control you and you’ll be fine,
Honestly this is the best method. No need to collect every n64 game around. Just pap mario and yoshis story if they ment alot because it's all you had. There's even some personal history you can tell and that is a collection
These games originally run at 360p with 24 fps. You can emulate these games in 4K with unlocked frame-rate.
What's the point of owning the cartridges, especially since the battery inside will eventually leak and ruin the motherboard. CD at the very least will last forever.
You dumb jerkoff. OF COURSE ILL ALSO EMULATE THEM YOU IDIOT!
I'd be stupid if I didn't do that. I still want to have complete inbox copy of paper mario for the gamer shelf because I like to decorate my room... that's it
"Hoarding" is a highly overstated 'disorder' made to medicalize those who collect and own and plan for the future in order to shame or correct them into owning nothing, very few people described as hoarders actually have disordered tendencies that harm them or others, but those who do not get lumped in with the few extreme cases in order to facilitate the idea that desiring to own things you love and keep them is a mental illness in need of fixing
>"Hoarding" is a highly overstated 'disorder' made to medicalize those who collect and own and plan for the future in order to shame or correct them into owning nothing,
Why? No one actually wants the shit horders own.
When your kids inherit it they're going to throw away everything they can't sell for a pretty buck.
>When your kids inherit it they're going to throw away everything they can't sell for a pretty buck.
so what? Just be an old person with three chairs and a pot to piss in?
>so what? Just be an old person with three chairs and a pot to piss in?
Yes. And my kids will inherit the house, and money I didn't blow on stupid shit no one wants.
>Yes. And my kids will inherit the house, and money I didn't blow on stupid shit no one wants.
frick those kids.
If they are so disconnected from me that they dont care about any of the stuff I enjoyed and just want extract wealth from my corpse, they can frick off. They're not entitled to whatever trifling sum is left in my bank account and to sell my house. Let them go get wrecked. I'm not just going to NOT enjoy my life sot hey can sell my house easier.
>I live for myself not for my kids
You have a disease. That's why you hoard. Normal people just buy the stuff they'll need and use, and keep their houses tidy. No sane person wants to live in an home full of boxes, dust, bread crumbs, and vermin for the sake of owning random useless junk.
>You have a disease.
>Sir you have a disease stop! Stop didn't you hear me say you have a disease? That means you don't know anything and aren't in control you're insane let me help you I SAID LET ME HELP YOU STOP LIVING THE WAY YOU WANT IMMEIDATELY, SIR! SIR STOP THAT! SIR YOU CAN'T JUST DO THINGS YOU LOVE THAT NEITHER HARM YOU NOR OTHERS, YOU HAVE A DISEASE YOU HAVE TO STOOOP! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!
Lol. Lmao. Perhaps even a gentle roflcopter. Soi soi soi soi soi.
>soi
I prefer milk actually.
And I don't mind some people being sick in the head, it's just the reality we live in. And if you want to sleep next to a garbage pile that's your choice. I'm still going to make fun of people like you though.
>He's such a newbie that when he reads 'roflcopter soi soi soi soi soi' he thinks of the modern bean-based-beverage meme
>Doctor in the thread
Doctor in the thread
Begone, merchant of evil
Actually its swa swa swa swa
You fricking normie
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Stop pretending to be an oldgay or ill hit you with a stfu truck
No one has ever typed it as swa you moron homosexual
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>You have a disease. That's why you hoard. Normal people just buy the stuff they'll need and use, and keep their houses tidy. No sane person wants to live in an home full of boxes, dust, bread crumbs, and vermin for the sake of owning random useless junk.
I'm sorry one or both of your parents were slops or you have autism and a normal amount of stuff gives you sensory problems.
But you keep responding to things in rather extreme ways making you look just as fruity as the hoarders.
The key is moderation. The key is cleaning. The key is spring cleaning and donating.
You are also an butthole, expecting the elderly to donate their cups, bowls, furniture etc and live in an empty home just to remove some work for their kids when they die. If you want your grand parents to live in an empty house to save you some work, you are a narcissist. Let them keep their coffee pot and drink their coffee and love their little old life, and when they die get off your lazy ass and settle their estate. Yes, put down the games, and porn, and new shows on Netflix and get off your ass and deal with the process of having a family.
>The key is moderation.
>You are also an butthole, expecting the elderly to donate their cups, bowls, furniture etc and live in an empty home just to remove some work for their kids when they die.
All I'm expecting out of people, is to get stuff that they'll use and get rid of stuff they don't use.
>All I'm expecting out of people, is to get stuff that they'll use and get rid of stuff they don't use.
There is a lot more nuance to this than you realize. Time is a big factor.
Your outlook is equally nuts when taken to an extreme. Like literally get rid of everything you're not using today? Got 4 cups throw 3 away? Not used your hammer recently, throw it away? Haven't used that 3rd set of sheets this month, throw it away? Don't use the back seat floor mats, throw them away?
Like how far do you go with it? How long in your mind can things go unused before it is trash time?
And yeah, the other extreme where you have 150 used McDonald's cups because God knows why is just as bad. Everyone here knows it is bad. Having 100 star wars paperbacks in your floor is also bad. But one extreme is not the cure for the other. For most people one is just a trauma response to the other.
Granny having 50 records and a bookshelf isn't hurting you. Sack up and deal with it when she dies. If she has a room with 300 boxes of unused cake mix that it another story
I don't care if my children sell my comics to people who want them, I got my use out of them. The joy I got in life finding actual good comics in used book stores will be passed on to a new generation
They're going to end up on the tip mate.
Kids don't read anything that doesn't load on an iPad these days.
Ok? Again I'll be dead but I highly doubt there wont be one person on the planet who wants some of my books for cheap
d-do you think he might have some silver age dc in there?
Silver Age DC comics are worthless, the only DC stuff that has value is the Golden Age comics. Marvel has some valuable Silver Age key issues but that's it.
This is me at my late father's house right now... plus I got my comics and shit in storage. And I started working on iy when I came home to take care of him as he got sick.
Ever go to one of those estate sale stores? It's just shelves full of everything you see at your grandma's place. You can figure out what decade this person bought all their tableware and furniture in by it. Lots of 70s era brown, gold, and lime green macrome crap. Sometimes you can find some old stuff, but usually it's 40s years before current year on average.
But really, what are people supposed to do with decades old, out of date, and often poorly kept up with household junk? When they already have their own slightly more modern household junk?
>"Hoarding" is a highly overstated 'disorder' made to medicalize those who collect and own and plan for the future in order to shame or correct them into owning nothing, very few people described as hoarders actually have disordered tendencies that harm them or others, but those who do not get lumped in with the few extreme cases in order to facilitate the idea that desiring to own things you love and keep them is a mental illness in need of fixing
pretty much.
Think about what shows also played alongside hoarders. Stuff like pawn stars, how flippers, American pickers. With lots of ads for new products.
Companies want to buy a ton of shit, take it home, throw it away and buy a ton more shit. If you fill your house you don't have space for more shit.
Even better, get you so raddled with ownership guilt that you forgo the act of owning anything and just rent services. Pay for streaming services. Save up and spend all your money on vacations. Don't buy things you enjoy and keep them in your house. Throw them away and then spend $6000 on a family vacation to disney world.
Yup, ever seen a minimalist or one of those consumers who buy everything new? They actually owned more things than 'hoarders', and many of them even owned more things than actual genuine hoarders ever did, over the course of their life. They just think it's better if they throw out that shit constantly and buy new. They love "decluttering" as a charade to pretend like they're not hoarding, and they buy more. Ever seen one of those decluttering processes, either irl or on video? They own tons of stuff they bought and used once or twice, or never, can't wait for it go to bad or old so they can throw it out, and then buy new. But that's perceived as fine, respectable even. It's just hoarding but without the fear of throwing out, only the buying, keeping and constant need for new things tendencies, which I'd argue is way worse.
>Yup, ever seen a minimalist or one of those consumers who buy everything new? They actually owned more things than 'hoarders', and many of them even owned more things than actual genuine hoarders ever did, over the course of their life.
Yep. Have a friend like that. Waste so much money to avoid hoarding. She will use throw away tin baking dishes just to avoid owning and cleaning a casserole dish. So she throws away 4 to 7 of them a week. Also gets her kids a LOT of prepackaged food just to avoid washing dishes. And I'm not talking pop tarts that have to come prepackaged. I'm talking mini donuts and applesauce. She will give them a pack of 3 mini donuts and a gosauce pack of applesauce every morning. Like, just buy a jug of sugar and a sack of mini donuts. The freezer is also packed with freezer meals that produce a lot of trash just to avoid owning and washing plates.
Anti hoarding, declutter types create so much trash, it's crazy. Like buy the big box and wash a plate. It's easy, just wash the plate. You don't need 30 individually wrapped Oreos. Just get the family pack and wipe the fricking crumbs up
Haha yesh my friend who filled his house eith games he doesnt have the consoles to play any longer and false scarecity funko pops isnt a hoarder and its not a mental illness or cope brought on by his shitty mom or dead dad
>shitty mom or dead dad
to be fair, barb's hoarding issue is FAR worse than chris'. at least chris makes an attempt to make his own living space semi-bearable
This thread really angered the pack rats. At least organize your junk, it's a fire hazard.
Best comparison is me and my wife, I collect a few different things (Godzilla, Ghost Rider, Boris Karloff Frankenstein stuff, but I’m very selective about what I buy I don’t just go out and grab every last piece of merch I can find and I bought display cases to keep that stuff in, I can sit in the den and frick around on PlayStation or watch a movie then turn and look at my collections and think to my self “I got some cool shit”.
But my wife grew up in a hoarding situation to the point that when her mom passed they did a cleanup and hauled eight or nine of dumpsters worth of junk out of the house and I’m not talking the normal dumpsters you see outside a business or school I’m talking the big motherfrickers that they load onto a flatbed that they use on construction sites, and in the end my father-in-law still had to have the house demolished because between the junk and the animal shit it was unsalvagable, unfortunately my wife picked up the habit where her mom left off, luckily I’ve managed to keep it contained to the guest room but lately it’s been spreading to other rooms so her dad and sisters plan to help intervene before it gets worse and hopefully clean some of that shit out
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i began collecting dvds of animated movie because movies can vanish from streaming platforms, and the dvds have extras and minigames, some even come with booklets explaining how the movie was made.
It's on a shelf so I'm not a horder.
Some of those are on the floor
Disgusting hoarder
Hoarding is a 20th century illness. Its born from the mental illness known as nostalgia which started with boomers.
Break the cycle, accept that you enjoyed thing but need to move on. You dont need to hold it for your kid to enjoy.
Collecting is for bourgeoisie swine.
>its not hoarding because i have money
It's hoarding when you can't bring friends home because of it.
Oh so my dildo collection is hoarding? Ok moron
Collecting shit is absolutely hoarding, just more organized.
Collecting = drinking
Hoarding = alcoholism
>You're not allowed to collect or own anything, that's hoarding
>You're not allowed to have interest in anything, that's problematic nostalgia
>Your only life interest should be wage slaving for billionaires to exploit you
You want to live under socialism? Piss off
>You want to live under socialism? Piss off
Meanwhile, me, living in a socialist country.
Except Sweden's socialism is just "soft capitalism" also give me your bitcoins.
How the frick does saying you should have interests outside of work “socialism” lmao
Capitalists can't profit off you when you don't work.
Bros… is sleeping socialism?!?
It's about time people realized actual mental illness used to be rare, and what we call "mental illness" nowadays is just people expressing normal symptoms of living life
>"I'm a first grader and like to run and play and not sit through 8 hours of math"
>"ADHD! TIME FOR A LIFELONG DRUG ADDICTION, LITTLE BOY!"
>"Hey, you notice how some stuff the government tells us to do isn't in our own benefit?"
>"SCHIZOPHRENIA! LOCK HIM UP!"
>"I'm sad because of real world circumstances that can be fixed with a change of lifestyle"
>"Pfft, lifestyle? Real world circumstances? No such thing, IT'S DEPRESSION, PILLS NOW NOW NOW!"
Who let you out of the pleasure cube schizo
I love when someone posts something like this, and the best retort people like (you) have is just to prove them right
I swear self awareness requires a level of intellect most of Cinemaphile doesn't have
Well yeah, that's corpos trying to find as many avenues of profit as possible. And nobody really does anything about it beyond going "oh ok" so it's just gonna keep getting worse. Watching tv will probably be considered a mental illness in the next decade too.
Are you kidding me? Watching TV is one of the few things that WON'T be considered an illness because it's already profitable
Illnesses get invented either when there's profit to be made, or when there's "dangerous" people to silence
Well that and they tried claiming it was a dangerous addiction back in the early 70s. People didn't care and moved on to claiming video games were a dangerous addiction instead in the early-mid 80s. These scary warnings only work if you can get the soccer moms involved ans take up the fight themselves in their own time with their own money. The government is 99% of the time perfectly willing to ignore everything if they can ignore it.
If some moron is just going to throw it on the floor like that, that's bad.
There's nothing wrong with liking things. There's nothing wrong with owning some entertaining books or comics or items. There is something wrong with trying to shame people into living a "restrict your possessions by the ounce" spartan life. Let people be happy. Remember to be tidy, and don't get caught up in thinking you can sell things around for "a fortune" later. Enjoy life.
>There's nothing wrong with liking things
>t. Hoarder
Its okay to like things IN MODERATION
you dont need ALL the funko pops. There's no prize for collecting them all
Why didn't you post the link to the video?
to give a serious answer, I've seen legitimate cases of hoarding and i believe there are crucial differences vs just collecting a lot of things like comics. hoarders will accumulate redundant shit with no value or utility that's unrelated and ends up never used. like buying 15 toasters and leaving them all in their boxes never to be opened or used. there's a big difference between that and collecting many issues of a comic which are not identical, have an inherent collector's appeal and even a case to be made as an investment. the hoarder will never be able to reconcile their owning 15 boxed toasters in a logical way but will nonetheless insist saying "what if i neeeeeed them one day" whereas it's easy to imagine rationalizing a comic collection.
that said you can obviously still be fricking cringe with collecting i.e. anyone who owns more than one funko pop, or frick even one is too many
collecting and hoarding are different but collecting can be it's own mental illness. I've seen this with old book readers on youtube and they have made some rules of thumb the most basic one being if you have to stack books to a point where if they toppled over they would crush you then you have too many books
My grandpa hoards books, it's not this bad but it's pretty bad
Are you reading the shit you're getting or just getting it cause it's "valuable"
are you actually displaying them like books or just shoving them into cardboard boxes?
if it's only there to take space then yes
anyone who honestly believes everything old is worthless because "i have the more modern version!" no realizing the low standard modern good are built under is a full blown Black person idiot
Not even remotely close to the topic being discussed, but thanks for popping in and sharing your useless opinion, mongoloid
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No. It can lead to it but it depends on the person.
I have a strong level of sentimentality so I'm always towing the line. Right now I'm at a respectable 2 bookshelves of collected DVDs, CDs, and VHS tapes, most bought when I was in middle school, an then a decent amount just given to me, along with some mail packages I keep stuff I've collected inside of when bought online (signed posters, some figures, comics. I feel it helps keep things set aside in my closet.)
I do occasionally have the urge to hold onto things I don't actually need. When I go shopping with my friend I've held onto receipts not out of "if something needs to be returned" but because of that sentimentality. That nice feeling where I can look back and see what I bought together in the past. Like a spark of positivity/nostalgia. I don't do it for any other shopping. Technically just taking a picture after a purchase for personal keeping would do about the same. I also have a habit of trying to record a lot of stuff around me as keepsakes, which is kinda like digital hoarding. I have a lot of saved videos that are just me having set my phone on my table and recording a live broadcast of something I like (even if I had the ability to record broadcasts directly I'd probably still do this method because it shows a little of the surroundings of my room or such at the time which is better for memory.) At the very least it's also encouraged me to record more about stuff that actually matters like visiting places.
This is generally how hoarding becomes an issue. Attributing value or over-sentamentality to things you don't need. As long as my issue is just recording a lot of videos and constantly having to make room for them on external hard drives I think I'm fine. There's less and less stuff being broadcast I care about anyway.
Collecting in the current year is just a buying exercise. It was a hobby at one point, when you had to scour estate sales, flea markets, and garage sales to find anything of value, when the average normie couldn't look up the value of anything on his phone instantly, when you couldn't just find all of the known Spiderman comics in existence and just order one for whatever the price point is, sure back then collecting was a hobby. Now? No, I don't think it is, you can't build a collection of rare books through time and effort like you could once upon a time, the only way to do it now is to buy buy buy.
Collection: organized, displayed, not a hygiene or safety hazard, financially sustainable. Likely to create a sense of pride for the collector.
Hoard: Not those things. A source of shame for the hoarder.