Is he right, Cinemaphile? Are male comic book characters being drawn less masculine than in the past?
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Is he right?
Is he right, Cinemaphile? Are male comic book characters being drawn less masculine than in the past?
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>lately
>lat
What do YOU think?
I don't care, modern comics are gay and shit. Everyone on this board should feel bad for like actual shit. The fetish and politics posters are more justified in being here. have a nice day for a Twitter screen shot.
>The fetish and politics posters are more justified in being here
It's true, the industry has become so badly politicized by the ~~*people*~~ who have top down control over it that that's the more relevant discussion, are cartoons even still a form of entertainment or are they just another thing israelites have turned into a political battlefield?
Also it's pretty hard not to notice all the politically charged people who don't get told "go leave" over the ones who do.
What does he mean 'lately'?
Lately they are flat out gay, it's not an ambiguity/overlap thing.
It’s been like this for over a decade and he’d have defended the people doing it for social media clout. He’s no less to blame than any of the homosexuals the big two have employed for years.
Don' t care superman is gay I will only buy xi media from now on
Posting in a bait thread
I don't care what c**ts on twitter are doing
Download the image file if you’re going to quote it.
i have it on my computer but not on my phone im currently phoneposting
Kys
i wish posting on Cinemaphile mobile instantly perma no read range banned you
People were calling Batman a queer back in the 50s.
when i was a tween
one of my afterschool leaders said i must like skinny jeans because it's the closest i'd could get to superhero spandex
Gays and other gays constant need to validate themselves. To the point of pushing themselves into everything. During the 80’s, prior to AIDS there was a whole bunch of gay groups with weird supremicist ethos saying that they were more evolved because they wanted to buttfrick boys and some stuff about the anima.
They basically pushed the idea that Christianity suppressed homosexuality everywhere and pushed theories about natives being buttfricking queers with the Two-Spirit thing (we have more evidence that homosexual men would be laughed out of their village and leave to be a nomadic prostitute.)
Basically all organized religion see’s homosexuals as people who gave into their own vices.
But but, they are living thier valid lives to the fullest and are no different than you and me.
25 years old is "the fullest"?
Has this guy shit on anime before? Right wing media critics who talk about the degeneracy of western cartoons should never be taken seriously if they haven't shit on anime.
They shouldn't be taken seriously because, if it's American degeneracy they have a problem with, they should know its roots start at the founding of this very "Country."
The rest of that line of posts is him talking about how modern superheros look like pillowbiters because of manga influence.
The only one I know that shat on anime was Matt Walsh. But he immediately backpedaled and said he was "JUST KIDDING!" when he got backlash from his fans who are 90% weebs.
It's in the boomer's nature to whine about anime/manga.
>Yet another fricking twitter thread
OP is a gay and a cancer on this board. Shit, if I wanted twitter screenshots I'd go to Reddit.
Twitter should decrease their character limits again so people waste more time typing our their rants
Why is he so obsessed does he jack it to muscle?
So he's a baragay, big whoop.
>it's the dirty orientals!
Like clockwork. The funny thing is that I unfollowed Zircher a few years ago because he was full on into the culture war and shitting on people that weren't okay with gay and trans representation and championing "new (derivative) characters and costume changes
tldr; you get what you fricking deserve
>”i-it’s manga’s fault!” when people are ditching comics for manga
This is why weebs raid your board constantly.
More like,
>we can't beat Japan with our cartoons so let's steal theirs and corrupt them with our troony worshipping bullshit
He's on point blaming it on the chinks, keep seething weebs you know he's right
that's only because of the influence of Japanese manga and anime on younger American artists.
See I think he’s wrong to say it has anything to do with manga influence. It’s purely because women who think masculinity is toxic and queers who are quite feminine themselves have taken control of the mid level positions.
But most of the gayface artists aren't even young.
The big manga audience in America is largely under the age of 35.
>The big manga audience in America is largely under the age of 35.
If you're artistically inclined you were probably reading imported comics back then. Sailor Moon manga was imported back in 8 for a teenage magazine. To say nothing of artists who are international and got Japanese media earlier.
Rent free
>Fist Of The North Star
Anime and manga is manlier than modern western cartoons could ever hope to be
He's saying he wants more of those hyper masculine muscle guys even those they are 100% mega gay too
Straight male power fantasy is the exact same as gay male sexual fantasy and the only way you can really tell which intent is if there's a bulge.
The existence of Rob Liefeld skews the distribution.
Can you post a new drawing of his?
Yes
Metro doesn't exist anymore
All straight guys today would be metro 20 years ago
All metro guys 20 years ago would be gay/troony today
>Is he right
yes
it is called gayface, is the new calarts
Lol no, he's a seething boomer who constantly blocks anyone who criticizes him
I don't use twitter but doesn't everyone do that?
>another twittergay
Sure, the nerdy, sensitive journalist, usually a teen like Peter Parker, The Big PP, who grooms himself obsessively, gets over-emotional and wears a spandex suit, does these things because he's gay. Not because he's a preening teenager, and one who's seen some shit as a super.
I mean, sure, it would be fair to ask why they felt the need to MAKE an established hetero character bi (though there's nothing wrong with a bi character), but that's only because it was kinda obvious that at least a few hunks with manly tears in spandex might be. I want to tell him 'welcome to comics, everyone dresses like a bondage freak here.' He sounds surprised.
Yes too man fujoshi tumblr artists thank god I have gay bear porn to even it out
>twittergay thread
this aisde, thats just a reflection of popular fashion these days
its not that superheroes are less masculine, its that MEN are less masculine, and our media follows suit
just google "mens fashion" or something and show me what you find
heres the first result on my end
end of
But the absolute metrosexuals in anime like Jojo look way more manly even though they look far more flamboyantly GHEY. Why?
different standards
characters in JOJO are intentionally hyperbolic and theyre inspired by old western media, their flamboyance juxtaposes their masculinity, theyre actually closer to what superheroes originally were- powerful, strong, perfect examples of their respective identity, yet at the same time big, bold and extravagant. in short- theyre performers.
nowadays theres an attempt to "humanize" them, so they look more like the avarage joe
and the avarage joe is a pussy
Has the concept of GAR been lost yet again?
>Character designs reflect modern day tastes and fashion
Oh wow what an amazing insight! Is je next going to point out how in the 50s people wore suits and short hair and at best very closely trimmed small mustache, and everyone except 60-70 years old men were cleanly shaved, but then in the late 60s and 70s people start to have longer and more “effeminate” hair and bushy mustaches and beards?
meh, not everyone is into the steroid abusing muscle bound freak. I'll just bet what he considers "metrosexual" is just an average physique, which more people find relatable. I know, relatable superheroes? crazy.
Metrosexual just means men who actually put some effort in how they look.
>thread discussing ARTWORK IN MODERN COMIC BOOKS
>only one example posted and it's a 20+ year old meme
have a nice day. Why do you normie morons insist on discussing some general abstract concept for which cannot even remember ANY SPECIFIC FRICKING EXAMPLES? Do you not realize how much that devalues anything you spout? That means that you didn't actually notice something was wrong when reading something, you just feel the need to put your worthless five cents in about the topic you have no familiarity with just to feel smart. Frick.
Welcome to every thread abour Batman "beating up the homeless and mentally ill"
Well this is a twitter screenshot thread, so regardless of what he said he's automatically wrong and you are automatically a homosexual.
Why are twitter threads always started by right wingers?
Why do left wingers always make moronic strawmen that aren't even remotely true?
He right tho
>they stopped drawing them as gay bara fantasies and started drawing them as gay twink fantasies
Oh no, it's the wrong kind of homosexualry I guess! Boo hoo hoo!
Masculinity has been under attack for two decades, where have you been?
Masculinity is so fricking fragile any little thing seems to break it
Dudes aren't willing to admit out loud that their ideas of masculinity have been entirely fed to them through television, so any deviation from what they've been fed feels like an attack on their entire self-concept.
Masculinity isn’t an idea, it’s a state of being, it’s not something that you can get through “grilling with the boys” or pills or what have you. Like femininity it just IS, and this constant chastising of all men does nothing but weaken us all.
From the very beginning Superman wore spandex that was basically just an anatomy model with a solid color and had quaffed hair
You and your twitter gay are moronic
Compared to the 80's and 90's? Yes.
Compare to the 60's and 70's? No.
Wouldn't know I don't read comics past the 90s.
Masculinity of the past is toxic and out of style. This is the new masculinity now.
Why do they always draw these homosexuals' faces like they're on some kind of drug?
Honestly, it's probably because the creators are on drugs themselves
>drugs
My buddy knew some guy from work who was on them
Nu-Superboy's boyfriend has intangibility powers? Huh. There is something appealing to that notion from a traditional standpoint, my headcanon has there being a special relationship between Kal and Tinya during his early Legion days thats always been hinted at. I guess like father like son...
>Apollo slowly being feminized so MidPollo doesn't feel threatening
The thing I hate the most about fujos is the way they draw men in those absurd feminine poses no man would ever be caught dead doing. I could throw a hundred of the skinniest twinks on Grindr on a couch and none of them would land that way.
I know women don't pose like that either and it's all referenced from heavily edited perfume ads and porn but at least when you ask one to lie down and look sexy that's what she attempts.
>I know it's performative and is more about showing off the figure than being a realistic depiction of rest
So why does it anger you?
That's the same as women getting mad when someone draws a girl bending over
Idealized forms and poses are not something to get upset over.
Why do these nerds that never take care of themselves start ranting about "muhh masculinity". I skimmed through some recent capeshit releases and the men are still built like bodybuilders, meanwhile all the fans are either fat or skinnyfat, balding or they never comb their hair and dress in repulsive manchildren t-shirts. Look in the mirror before ranting about masculinity, Patch.
Yes
I dont think "masculinity" is out of fashion, i think the pool of people, the type of people who become comic artists dont really like masculine men or even masculinity in a broader sense that much.
There are more zoomers doing bodybuilding now than ever before, a lot of them influenced by anime of all things, but these people arent the type who become comic artists or even comic readers nowadays.
This, most gymbros are into anime or at least a few anime they really love. Even that comic book artist is a DBZgay.
People that like comics though, they don't go to the gym, they stay on twitter.
>a lot of them influenced by anime of all things
The amount of dudes who got into lifting thanks to One Punch Man is honestly staggering.
I've always felt that male leads in action/adventure cartoons end up being complete, absolute goobers while female leads tend to have more serious personalities.
Neither are bad characters and can be enjoyable, it just seems like a trend in my anecdote filled mind.
That's not new. Gay attire in superhero stories goes back to the spandex leotards, short shorts and thigh-high boots, exposed thigh and chest areas, etc.
This is a return to form
This is clearly a person who doesn't read comics and starts arguments on Twitter for clout.
Male superhero bodies can vary greatly, though there's typically a generic design the majority stem from, and that's Generic Buff Action Guy. I think it's nice we see more than just that design as heroes, because it brings the idea that anyone, no matter what they look like, can step up and be a badass hero. Comics are both stories and escapist fantasies.
He's a comic book artist who has worked for both marvel and dc
Not that anon but it doesn't contradict their statement
>this guy doesn't read comics
>actually he's a comic book artist
>You: SOOOOOOO?
forgive him anon he like most of Cinemaphile doesnt read comics so he doesnt know who draws them
Based self reply dipshit. His style is at least 40 years out of date, he's a failed boomer jobber whose work is stiff, lifeless and ugly. No, i don't think he keeps up with current trends and reads what's hot.
>Based self reply dipshit
>I'm a different moron.
Ok, Patch still sucks even if he's on your side of le culture war or whatever. Plenty of manly men and large scale superheroics going on.
>His style is at least 40 years out of date
Comic art 40 years ago was better than now anyway.
Gayface has taken over comics. Especially DC Comics. Soon every DC male character will have big eye and giant lips.
>Is he right, Cinemaphile? Are male comic book characters being drawn less masculine than in the past?
He's has a point, lot of it looks pretty gay these days.
Hahah!
I remember working in a comic shop and having an argument with this fat neckbeard chunk in a jean jacket who smelled like armpits about Conan. He kept going on about how Conan was the epitome of manliness created by a real man who knew what manliness was etc. Then I reminded him that Robert E. Howard was a virgin mamma's boy shut-in who blew his brains out because his mommy died and he didn't know how to look after himself alone. He called me a israelite. Or maybe a cuck. It was hard to tell. What he really said sounded more like "koo-ick"
Sure thing bud.
Alan Moore frick off. Howard fricked black hookers.
>heh heh this guy killed himself because he was depressed
Really the history of shitting on Robert Howard is really disgusting.
This atrocious jobber is extremely lucky to get work. Really smart to bite the hand that feeds you.
back in the good old day they looked like men
The Japanese are right, men who are obsessed with "masculinity" and other men's bodies are fricking gay, especially the ones that b***h about fictional men's bodies on Twitter.
>My generation: Smart, Brave, Masculine, Disciplined!
>New generation: Dumb, Cowardly, Effeminate, degenerate!
Yep that same sentiment repeats itself every generation. Pic.
He's not wrong tho.
What books is he reading? And besides, I guess more are openly bi, but the metrosexual out going well groomed main character was a thing ever since the 70s
no, moron
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shut up moron