Yeah, actually. There are plenty of shows that make it big on streaming services but very few movies do. The only one I know that really made a name for itself was The Irishman, and that was mostly from the gimmick of a real director making a movie for streaming services.
Even people who watch those films forget them instantly. Whenever some Netflix drone tells me about what they watched they always say "Oh yeah, I watched some action movie/ comedy." They never mention a title or anything and are unlikely to remember when you ask them. And it's not just because of streaming; people are brain fricked by the amount of media they consume, they don't even care what it is.
I've said for years that the way you watch a movie for the first time directly impacts how you feel about it for the rest of your life >big blockbuster comes out in theaters > go to see it on the best screen available >have a great time >see it on cable 2 years later >think to yourself, I like that movie
contrast that with direct-to-streaming >big budget movie comes out on streaming >watch it either on a 42in TV with no soundbar or on a shitty laptop with built-in speakers >finish the movie, you think "meh" >see it in your queue six months later and you don't even remember it
it doesn't help that once a director knows their movie is going right to Netflix, the production is directly affected
The Adam Project was ALMOST a good movie but it had the sloppiest editing I've ever seen in a big project from a AAA studio, like it was a rough cut 1st draft edit, and I fully believe there was a feeling of "eh, this is going to Netflix anyway so we don't have to try that hard" during post
You can criticize Tarantino for a lot, such as his overindulgent dialogue, Black person obsession, and general footgaygery, but saying his films aren't talked about or in the zeitgeist is pure cope.
I like his footgaygery. In fact, I think he should make a movie called Feet where the protagonists would be tiny beings living in a world of beautiful human women that have feet. Like reverse Kaiju movies.
>n-n-no u!
His record is patchy but this smells of cope
When you pull any person on the street aside and ask them to name 5 directors there's a very good chance he'll be one of them
he's kind of right. streaming films feel cheap compared to the average "made for cinema" film from 2 decades ago. I dunno what happens to those big budgets. even the Irishman had that modern TV look to it.
He’s right but it also extends to all the shitty films in Redbox too.
“Geezer Teasers” and all of that.
They’re D-grade films, the likes of which he used to be obsessed with.
>I don't watch your movies so they don't exists
Years ago he said he was going to do 2 more movies then frick off to doing novels.
That still hasn't happened yet.
he's right about movies. certain shows are giga-tier popular on streaming, but nobody talks about streaming movies. Examples: > Dahmer > Mandalorian > LAAWWDDDD DEM RAANNNGGGS > Squid Games > Black Mirror
But can you name 5 streaming movies off the top of your head you've talked to normies about?
He’s basically right
Streaming has no cultural impact. Maybe a few series like stranger things but actual movies ? No
he's kind of right. streaming films feel cheap compared to the average "made for cinema" film from 2 decades ago. I dunno what happens to those big budgets. even the Irishman had that modern TV look to it.
I think a big part of it is the impermanence of it
streaming movies don't usually get physical releases and usually aren't available for purchase directly from iTunes
when you stop paying for the service, you lose the movie
people don't get attached to it in the same way
Yeah, but when you terminate the torrent, you still have the file. A streaming service user's access to a film or television show is tied to the streaming service itself.
>when you stop paying for the service, you lose the movie
Piratechads win again. It also boggles the mind that there hasn't been a successful film/show version of Steam yet, imagine paying $5 on sale for the entirety of TNG or the original Star Wars trilogy or whatever then always having them available.
>It also boggles the mind that there hasn't been a successful film/show version of Steam yet
Hollywood israelites are the most stingy, underhanded misers out there. EA would find their tactics distasteful.
These movies are forgettable, but it's also that the streaming companies are straight up lying about their numbers. They refuse to publish or verify their statistics in any way.
>But can you name 5 streaming movies off the top of your head you've talked to normies about?
Blonde
Roma
The Irishman
Swan Song (they hadn't seen it but it's a fricking great film so I still talked to them about it)
The Grey Man
(Also, Extraction, The Other Side of the Wind, Murder Mystery, Glass Onion (shit but still talked about it), Army of the Dead, Army of Thieves and Rebel Moon (that hasn't even released yet))
I'm sure there are more
>idiot that doesn't watch films complains that he hasn't seen any good ones
Netflix's first original film, Beasts of No Nation, is absolute unfiltered kino.
Yes, but that's also about his own work (which most of you still eat up like it's a buffet). You're gonna miss the sweet details of your own life, you'll need to pay closer attention, because you're worth discovering (and you don't gotta pay a cent to find it).
yeah clearly he's right and everyone knows it. weird situation when you've got a massive surplus of content, and a total lack of any quality whatsoever.
There is no "zeitgeist" anymore. Culture is dead, and certainly the unipolar world of israeli media is dead. Whatever trace of a zeitgeist there may still be left, movies are not part of it. The "zeitgeist" is Tiktok videos and Twitter posts. Also, Tarantino probably doesn't know how to use Netflix.
>There is no "zeitgeist" anymore.
Everyone was talking about Top Gun when it came out. Everyone knows who Mario is. Everyone under a certain age can tell you what the names of the bad guys Goku beats up are.
Culture is absolutely still a thing even if it's more dispersed thanks to the internet.
>Everyone was talking about Top Gun when it came out.
Not in my experience, but assuming I'm a statistical anomaly, it's based off an older media franchise. >Everyone knows who Mario is.
Again, legacy from a bygone era. If you didn't have the history of video games backing it, Millennials with formative experiences tied to it, it would be irrelevant. >Everyone under a certain age can tell you what the names of the bad guys Goku beats up are.
I'll just go with "no" on that one.
The current cultural landscape cannot create new culture, it can only pillage older cultural artifacts and recycle it for profit, but it does not create new shared cultural experiences. You don't have a The Matrix or Fight Club anymore, where an entire generation has an experience that provokes thoughts, philosophical discussions, even memes.
The closest you have to that is Marvel movies, and the impact of those is so dulled by their sheer volume and obvious commercialism.
To the extent you have these experiences, they are found online in a video that goes viral.
For about a week last year every single person in the US was talking about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. Every single person in the US has an opinion about Donald Trump, even people who don't care about politics. Every single person in the US knows about a war going on in some Eastern European shithole that most of them couldn't place on a map as of 2021.
Shared group culture is very much a thing even if movies aren't as big a part of it as they once were.
>be tarantula >rip off superior movies >change them in new media forms that didn't exist prior >call yourself superior >new kid shows up with a chinese handycam >rips off tarantual >changes his old media to new form not existing prior >claims superiority >tarantula calls this "not movies"
...yet tarantula absolutely is fine with claiming color and sound in his movies and not using a live orchestra with a conductor is somehow "cinema".
"Cinema" also used to be going to a box on a street corner in broad daylight, putting a nickle in, and jerking it while watching a flapper dance around at 10fps, written and directed by a literal drunk for $2 using a $1.50 hooker.
Tarantula is worried about losing money, and nothing else. Can you imagine if he had to get a real job?
>Can you imagine if he had to get a real job?
He'd coast by on autism bucks while working part time at a cinema chain
(he wanted to work full time but was denied because he kept sneaking into showings and ranting to customers about films instead of doing his job, so they dropped him to part time where they can monitor him closely)
>be Tarantual the Cinema Concierge >scream at kids how great Taxi Driver is but only in theaters with 70mm Technicolor while they ignore him to line up on the internet with their kinetophones to watch onlyfans flappers for $1.50 >realise this is the late 1800's all over again
...Tarantino always makes me laugh.
"Old Man hollers at clouds, News at 9!"
Studio releases get a big marketing push = the movie exists, even if it flops. Netflix promotes movies it wants to get awards, so that's a special circumstance.
Yeah, actually. There are plenty of shows that make it big on streaming services but very few movies do. The only one I know that really made a name for itself was The Irishman, and that was mostly from the gimmick of a real director making a movie for streaming services.
yeah all those movies are basically shovelware for streaming services look like they have lots of content
>shovelware for streaming services
Good term for it.
Even people who watch those films forget them instantly. Whenever some Netflix drone tells me about what they watched they always say "Oh yeah, I watched some action movie/ comedy." They never mention a title or anything and are unlikely to remember when you ask them. And it's not just because of streaming; people are brain fricked by the amount of media they consume, they don't even care what it is.
I've said for years that the way you watch a movie for the first time directly impacts how you feel about it for the rest of your life
>big blockbuster comes out in theaters
> go to see it on the best screen available
>have a great time
>see it on cable 2 years later
>think to yourself, I like that movie
contrast that with direct-to-streaming
>big budget movie comes out on streaming
>watch it either on a 42in TV with no soundbar or on a shitty laptop with built-in speakers
>finish the movie, you think "meh"
>see it in your queue six months later and you don't even remember it
it doesn't help that once a director knows their movie is going right to Netflix, the production is directly affected
The Adam Project was ALMOST a good movie but it had the sloppiest editing I've ever seen in a big project from a AAA studio, like it was a rough cut 1st draft edit, and I fully believe there was a feeling of "eh, this is going to Netflix anyway so we don't have to try that hard" during post
it either on a 42in TV with no soundbar or on a shitty laptop with built-in speakers
sounds like a poorgay problem
way to let everyone in the thread know you feel personally attacked
he's right. but his movies dont exist in the zeitgeist either
You can criticize Tarantino for a lot, such as his overindulgent dialogue, Black person obsession, and general footgaygery, but saying his films aren't talked about or in the zeitgeist is pure cope.
I like his footgaygery. In fact, I think he should make a movie called Feet where the protagonists would be tiny beings living in a world of beautiful human women that have feet. Like reverse Kaiju movies.
Once Upon a Time made the leftoids and chinkoids seethe for 3 years straight
No it didn't. Maybe the chinks.
his movies are one of the few Hollywood movies left that definitely do exist in the zeitgeist when they come out
Don't be dumb.
>n-n-no u!
His record is patchy but this smells of cope
When you pull any person on the street aside and ask them to name 5 directors there's a very good chance he'll be one of them
I mean I hate the dude but he definitely shaped the spirit of the time. He literally made his own sub genre.
maybe he'd remember if netflix made a movie about feet
A Netflix doc about the best feet in QT movies would be excellent
Yes for once. Those shit flix are on Netflix promoted for a month then disappear forever
he's kind of right. streaming films feel cheap compared to the average "made for cinema" film from 2 decades ago. I dunno what happens to those big budgets. even the Irishman had that modern TV look to it.
He’s basically right
Streaming has no cultural impact. Maybe a few series like stranger things but actual movies ? No
He’s right but it also extends to all the shitty films in Redbox too.
“Geezer Teasers” and all of that.
They’re D-grade films, the likes of which he used to be obsessed with.
He didn't flip on netflix, he went to films
why do these shitty actors get so much money ? 50 millions for some trash? isn't this a bit too much?
Yes it is very rare. They are forgettable movies but still a lot of money is invested in them
Because Netflix over pays for everything they make, stranger things costs an average of 35 million per episode
He's right. Even the movies that wins oscars are quickly forgotten. The only content from streaming that have staying power are shows.
>I don't watch your movies so they don't exists
Years ago he said he was going to do 2 more movies then frick off to doing novels.
That still hasn't happened yet.
He's kinda right, those Netflix movies are different in that they are exclusive to Netflix and not everyone has Netflix. They're insulated.
he's right about movies. certain shows are giga-tier popular on streaming, but nobody talks about streaming movies. Examples:
> Dahmer
> Mandalorian
> LAAWWDDDD DEM RAANNNGGGS
> Squid Games
> Black Mirror
But can you name 5 streaming movies off the top of your head you've talked to normies about?
I think a big part of it is the impermanence of it
streaming movies don't usually get physical releases and usually aren't available for purchase directly from iTunes
when you stop paying for the service, you lose the movie
people don't get attached to it in the same way
as someone who's been pirating their entire life and has never bought a film outside of paying for theater tickets, you're wrong
Yeah, but when you terminate the torrent, you still have the file. A streaming service user's access to a film or television show is tied to the streaming service itself.
why not start doing criterion-type physical stuff for their original films then?
>when you stop paying for the service, you lose the movie
Piratechads win again. It also boggles the mind that there hasn't been a successful film/show version of Steam yet, imagine paying $5 on sale for the entirety of TNG or the original Star Wars trilogy or whatever then always having them available.
>It also boggles the mind that there hasn't been a successful film/show version of Steam yet
Hollywood israelites are the most stingy, underhanded misers out there. EA would find their tactics distasteful.
These movies are forgettable, but it's also that the streaming companies are straight up lying about their numbers. They refuse to publish or verify their statistics in any way.
>But can you name 5 streaming movies off the top of your head you've talked to normies about?
Blonde
Roma
The Irishman
Swan Song (they hadn't seen it but it's a fricking great film so I still talked to them about it)
The Grey Man
(Also, Extraction, The Other Side of the Wind, Murder Mystery, Glass Onion (shit but still talked about it), Army of the Dead, Army of Thieves and Rebel Moon (that hasn't even released yet))
I'm sure there are more
He's an old moron who's obsessed with films even older than he is, ofcourse he doesn't keep up with current trends or understand the current zeitgeist
Yes.
Streaming-exclusive movies are essentially direct-to-dvd movies with slightly higher budgets
I have yet to see a single good one
>idiot that doesn't watch films complains that he hasn't seen any good ones
Netflix's first original film, Beasts of No Nation, is absolute unfiltered kino.
>Umm did you know there's ONE exception to this rule??? Heh, guess you're frickin WRONG BRO OHHHHH
Frickin moronmonkey
No, that was an example to prove that you literally have no idea what you're talking about since literally the first film they ever made was kino.
He's right.
Yes, but that's also about his own work (which most of you still eat up like it's a buffet). You're gonna miss the sweet details of your own life, you'll need to pay closer attention, because you're worth discovering (and you don't gotta pay a cent to find it).
yeah clearly he's right and everyone knows it. weird situation when you've got a massive surplus of content, and a total lack of any quality whatsoever.
brainfricked by his mother getting railed by black men while he was spying on her feet
>Very basic and commonly agreed on opinion
MY GOD, THIS MAN MUST BE SOME KIND OF GENIUS! SOMEBODY STICK THEIR FOOT IN HIS MOUTH!!!
>SOMEBODY STICK THEIR FOOT IN HIS MOUTH!!!
There is no "zeitgeist" anymore. Culture is dead, and certainly the unipolar world of israeli media is dead. Whatever trace of a zeitgeist there may still be left, movies are not part of it. The "zeitgeist" is Tiktok videos and Twitter posts. Also, Tarantino probably doesn't know how to use Netflix.
>There is no "zeitgeist" anymore.
Everyone was talking about Top Gun when it came out. Everyone knows who Mario is. Everyone under a certain age can tell you what the names of the bad guys Goku beats up are.
Culture is absolutely still a thing even if it's more dispersed thanks to the internet.
>Everyone was talking about Top Gun when it came out.
Not in my experience, but assuming I'm a statistical anomaly, it's based off an older media franchise.
>Everyone knows who Mario is.
Again, legacy from a bygone era. If you didn't have the history of video games backing it, Millennials with formative experiences tied to it, it would be irrelevant.
>Everyone under a certain age can tell you what the names of the bad guys Goku beats up are.
I'll just go with "no" on that one.
The current cultural landscape cannot create new culture, it can only pillage older cultural artifacts and recycle it for profit, but it does not create new shared cultural experiences. You don't have a The Matrix or Fight Club anymore, where an entire generation has an experience that provokes thoughts, philosophical discussions, even memes.
The closest you have to that is Marvel movies, and the impact of those is so dulled by their sheer volume and obvious commercialism.
To the extent you have these experiences, they are found online in a video that goes viral.
For about a week last year every single person in the US was talking about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. Every single person in the US has an opinion about Donald Trump, even people who don't care about politics. Every single person in the US knows about a war going on in some Eastern European shithole that most of them couldn't place on a map as of 2021.
Shared group culture is very much a thing even if movies aren't as big a part of it as they once were.
>old irrelevant man claims that things he hasn't seen don't exist
Wow, what informative news
cinema is kind of dying/changing
and so is life as we knew it
>be tarantula
>rip off superior movies
>change them in new media forms that didn't exist prior
>call yourself superior
>new kid shows up with a chinese handycam
>rips off tarantual
>changes his old media to new form not existing prior
>claims superiority
>tarantula calls this "not movies"
...yet tarantula absolutely is fine with claiming color and sound in his movies and not using a live orchestra with a conductor is somehow "cinema".
"Cinema" also used to be going to a box on a street corner in broad daylight, putting a nickle in, and jerking it while watching a flapper dance around at 10fps, written and directed by a literal drunk for $2 using a $1.50 hooker.
Tarantula is worried about losing money, and nothing else. Can you imagine if he had to get a real job?
>Can you imagine if he had to get a real job?
He'd coast by on autism bucks while working part time at a cinema chain
(he wanted to work full time but was denied because he kept sneaking into showings and ranting to customers about films instead of doing his job, so they dropped him to part time where they can monitor him closely)
>be Tarantual the Cinema Concierge
>scream at kids how great Taxi Driver is but only in theaters with 70mm Technicolor while they ignore him to line up on the internet with their kinetophones to watch onlyfans flappers for $1.50
>realise this is the late 1800's all over again
...Tarantino always makes me laugh.
"Old Man hollers at clouds, News at 9!"
It’s obvious that Netflix use the exact same cameras and crews for all their movies. It means they all look exactly the same.
He's the last director still shooting on film. While that's respectable, it tells you everything you need to know about his world view.
Studio releases get a big marketing push = the movie exists, even if it flops. Netflix promotes movies it wants to get awards, so that's a special circumstance.