Is he right?
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yeah. They are just action movies with CGI.
MCU has oversaturated a certain formula though. So these adaptations aren't living up to the book-to-movie potential.
You know it's not as if I even necessarily mind CGI if it's done well, even though as I've gotten older I've definitely started tending towards preferring "real" movies with practical effects. But seeing how Marvel movies pump out multiple new ones each year and the CGI consistently looks horrendous, I begin to understand why it used to be the case that sequels would take years before they finally came out. Because they need that extra time in the oven if the movie is to have any hope of actually looking good. In the end though it's really the audience's fault for continuing to pay for this shit without question.
Cape shit is the symptom not the cause
You morons think if superhero movies didn't exist we'd be getting 15 more kino movies per year instead of 15 capeshit movies? Get real. Kino happens and doesn't happen irrespective of the mass market garbage.
This. I dislike plastic capeshit as much as the next guy, but if that wasn't the current trends it would be some other cancerous barrage of uninspired garbage like bad romcoms and bad horror movies, probably more sequels too.
nobody fricking watches anything that isn't a franchise film genius, that's the problem. scorsese is totally right and PTA is being stupid
>franchise film
i see the "franchise film" thing to be more like a television show - people watch one, they get invested in the story and characters and stay around to see where it goes
but most modern television shows (outside of sitcoms and police procedurals) have the good sense to wrap it up after a few seasons
you see with a show like the walking dead which was pulling i think 15 or 20 million viewers an episode hit critical mass at a certain point and people kept checking out afterwards until few were left - i don't think it's even necessarily a reflection of the quality of the later seasons, but rather people just got tired of staying invested in a neverending saga
seems like they gave capeshitters a clean cut with endgame and many took them up on it
>Get real. Kino happens and doesn't happen irrespective of the mass market garbage.
this isnt really true. getting the type of kino we got through the 70s through 90s requires a certain production value, and if there wasnt a dominant genre like super hero movies then producers might be willing to throw some money around at odder, more risky projects.
He only says this because he got grandfathered in to making his own mid budget movies. Giant blockbusters fricked cinema up hard.
licorice pizza was garbage
Not entirely bc superhero movies dumb audiences down and don't educate them visually, they look kitschy and superficial besides their moronic, infantilized content.
Capeshit is at the same time a symptom rather than a cause: it shows meretricious/greedy/untalented types catering to uneducated masses.
PTA is a pussy. He has said before he does not ever say anything negative about films people he knows made. He feels it doesn't help. But in reality others like Tarantino will straight up tell you it sucks. He's a shitty overrated director who uses that Kubrick playbook and casts amazing actors to carry his material
Anderson has a policy of not criticizing other people's work in public. I think it goes back to when he attacked Fincher over Fight Club. John Krasinsky has a story about how he was talking shit about some movie and Anderson pulled him aside and asked him not to do that in front of people.
it's normie's fault for going to watch capeshit en masse for over a decade
it's amazing what a high budget can do
capeshit is just power rangers with 100 million dollars worth of vfx
They haven't ruined cinema, they've ended it. What they have ruined is our generation, by turning us into low IQ tastelets who get excited over IPs made for babies.
kek imagine lamenting the pretention-level of cinemaaa when zoomers don't even watch movies and as soon as the 35 plus year old audience for the current baby movies realizes how fricking gay they are being and stops coming out, there won't even BE movies.
it would be silly for him to say it has because he is allowed to make whatever he wants even when most of his movies flop in the theaters. he also loves stupid comedies so he has nothing to complain about
You know how we used to laugh at our parents watching network tv bottom of the barrel slop when there was so much fun cool stuff on the new media but they don't know how to access it - that's us now. Movies and television are the old timer shit that's going to hang around but be absolute-zero quality because 'we'll watch it anyway' because we 'don't like that tiktok'.
Cinemaphile should be renamed /tvr/ retro/legacy visual media
Sure, in a sense
On the one hand there's nothing especially wrong with Capeshit, it's not as though studios weren't periodically producing cheap action movies to tey and get seats filled before. It's less that Superhero movies ruined cinema as much as the executives in charge of movie production became more creativeky bankrupt, and decided that instead of making many brands of cheap movies to appeal to broad audiences, they'd discovered upon a magic formula where you make the same movie over and over again, because it makes a half-billion dollars everytime and appeals to every demographic. It's a symptom of a larger breakdown in the Hollywood machine, not the cause
Hollywood is literally fricking dying because cinemas revolved around spectacular superhero films and now that every franchise is dying down no one is going to the theaters anymore. He is completely wrong and it's shameful for a director of his caliber to not acknowledge the cancer that is franchise cinema
Movies are dying and people aren't seeing them because they all fricking suck now and women and Black folk have taken over EVERYTHING
it isn't because of super hero movies you moron.
Literally just make good movies
>it isn't because of super hero movies you moron.
Superhero movies are riddled w/ women and black ppl to a disproportionate degree, you're the moron for not understanding this
frick off moron
he's not wrong
He's wrong just like your moronic parents were when they had you
no, he's wrong. the money spent on pumping out the same capeshit slop year after year could have gone to making hundreds of smaller, more interesting films. capeshit has strangled the entire film industry
He’s right, but what he’ll never say is that what actually ruined cinema is the arthouse and indie scene. There has not been a legitimately good masterpiece to come out of an indie director in over 10 years, not since social media ubiquity. If there has it was made by the likes of PTA, a veteran aging director from a different era making a period piece, and not an up and coming director like it needs to be for cinema to survive. 99.9% of films made by these “artists” are garbage derivative hacky and just awful. Theres nothing truly new, nothing truly modern, nothing that cuts through culture with precision and beauty, nothing that tells the truth, nothing truly courageous, no cinema. And all these awful directors are encouraged to suck each others balls and support each other because the industry is “so difficult” and yadayada. Awful. I blame him for the death of cinema and he’s probably the best director working today.
Correct
Have you considered the fact that nobody watches those other films because they are trash too?
but they aren't, original films made by real artists are way better and PTA is one of them, they just don't have mass appeal. the thing is that even your standard hollywood drama doesn't make money. this isn't the 90s where people would go to watch legal dramas and erotic thrillers. those don't exist anymore
>nothing that tells the truth, nothing truly courageous,
By the fact that you posted a picture of fricking Hitler I think it's safe to conclude that your definition of "truth" and "courage" is something completely moronic.
Here. Have a nice movie about your hero.
Hey man, i respect the man for his movies, if he feels that way then sure. He probably just says it because he has to, but hell does anyone care?
Superhero movies have been around longer than the parents of most of the people in this thread have been alive. They're never going to go away and they've never gotten in the way of other films being made
>they've never gotten in the way of other films being made
What's with all the shills in this thread? Who are you kidding?
I want you to genuinely tell me that none cape movies aren't being made right now. Go ahead.
Can you rephrase your question in non-moronic English?
>they've never gotten in the way of other films being made
They have because they clog up movie theaters and concentrate budgetary resources that could be used to make dozens of non-moronic movies
He's just a contrarian
Women ruined cinema.
i had a lot of fun watching superhero movies
not everything has to be some deep arthouse movie
he´s the definition of the wunderkind who never had a single meaningful thing to say, just rehases his favorite filmmakers
the statement is true but I would add that those types of movies are terrible regardless.
why would I give a shit about
>le Paul Thomas Anderson's opinion
on this?
Because he is one of the greatest living filmmakers? You butthole.