Is he right?
Was Zeb Wells' joke tasteless and did it cross the line?
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Was Zeb Wells' joke tasteless and did it cross the line?
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>twitter screenshot
I do not care
X
Why are you people so insistent on calling Twitter this now. i thought we hated trannies
because that offends x/Twitter users for some reason
Nothing to do with sex.
based
> acting like being on Cinemaphile makes you better
when will you gays get off your high horse? seriously dickriding a platform over another platform is a symptom of brain damage or an underdeveloped brain.
bet you still post cringe 2010s memes on console wars or youre a super "PC master race" neckbeard
> but but m-muh twitter
shut the frick up you homosexuals
you all suck
Dunno shit about that. It was just a really bad line.
Sad cause I liked how he wrote Kamala in it at least.
It would be badass if it were a death threat. What’s the context here?
The context is him revealing his identity to Kamala
>Kamala
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I want my posts back.
Fricking damn this lame meta humor for inconsequential events to hell. At least with a death threat it’s kinda funny and intimidating at the same time
Damn I really wish it was used as a threat this shit is so lame
It's tone deaf enough that this comes to mind
This guy is a moron and is objectively in the wrong but at the same time I'm glad he didn't apologize to these idiots going around threatening violence over a joke.
Yeah that guy has some sort of tism or something else. Or he really is just a scumbag. lol that video is weird. Guy walks in and seems like the bad guy for threatening violence but then he mentions what the joke was and that the guy has been consistently doing it. The moron's joke seems like it can be wiggled out of and just use his moronation to show that he meant it literally with no relation to the daughter. Kind of like Slott feigning ignorance and pointing to muh sales. Then he starts to give in at the end when the manager comes by and he feels the pressure. I have no idea who actually was in the wrong but I'm unsure. Though yeah just imagine the autistic guy as Marvel writers like Slott or someone like Lowe feigning ignorance to their continued misdeeds while ignoring customers like the dad who are perhaps rightfully angry. The manager at the end was Disney or someone because she probably did nothing and let the guy off scott free, lol.
Guy's giving us Gardevoir chads a bad name just like Marvel is giving Spider-Man a bad name.
>gardevoir
>chad
barely furgay is still furgay, furgay.
the true chad choice is going for poke WOMEN (not girls)
Did I say I wanted to sex Gardevoir? Did I deny the superiority of pokegirls? A true chad lets others have their fun while letting their psychic pokemon do all the mindreading and mental gymnastics for them.
>poke WOMEN (not girls)
Weak
That is a guy who does not care about his life or like anyone but himself. What a perfect metaphor for modern writers. I hope they strike forever.
>does not care about his life or like anyone but himself.
>What a perfect metaphor for executives
FTFY
>gardevoir shirt
>implied horse show fan by that guy
This guy just looks like a typical autist. Given his shirt, he probably genuinely browses /vp/. I dunno if he should be raked over the coals, since he obviously has trouble reading the room when it comes to things, but at the same time, he did say something pretty dumb.
> you're a brony or whatever the frick. You're about to get fricked up"
Love that
I could feel for this guy if he was just an autist, but he acts like a prick as well. It's good he gets out of mom's basement but he should probably not be working in any customer-facing position.
That the Americans think that the father is right shows how low they have sunk.filming when you are going to confront someone is cowardly, at least he had the decency not to show the employee's face
I take back what I said, I watched the video and saw that it shows the guy's face.zero decency
Shut up you fricking moron. If you harass a little girl her father has every fricking right to threaten to bash your head in.
>If you harass a little girl
Except he didn't do that,homosexual.
Just wait until you have a kid of your own. What the frick am I saying, this is Cinemaphile.
film when you go to fight someone is gay
He was most likely recording the confrontation to show management or in the case this situation somehow ended up in court.
imagine going to trial for a joke,Americans are crazier every day
A joke is fine between peers, not an adult joking at the expense of a child. If you do that as qn adult you're fricking pathwtic and deserve to get screamed at by an angry parent. It's totally uncalled for.
>If you do that as qn adult you're fricking pathwtic
seething
the attitude of the father is more pathetic
I have three kids and I teach them to not care what some dollar general cashier says to them.
Which is hard because my wife takes everything personally so I've been fighting an uphill battle.
I dunno man. I wouldn't let any kids around him, that's for sure.
you are teaching them to be cowards, morons
>What would the neighbors think?
If I see a 12 year old girl with a bag I would think that is a 12 year old with a bag or am I missing anything? I mean usually the aspergers guy in a gardevoir shirt that looks and talks like a discord mod is in the wrong but I cannot be sure if he was trying to communicate that it was nothing to be ashamed of or what the frick was he even implying?
He's probably terrible at making small talk but was told to try to socialize more. The sad thing is I think I get where he picked it up, my mom is the kind of person that is paranoid about neighbors seeing anything she has in shopping bags even if it's completely normal groceries. His mom probably said something similar about whatever women's hygeine product around him and told him she was trying to make sure no one saw her buy it, he picked that up and made a spergy joke about it.
>made a spergy joke about it.
That's what I thought, like he was trying to say, "don't worry kid, there is nothing to be ashamed of, its just nature" but came all moronic and even then, I think not talking is a better policy.
Dude looked like a creep unintentionally, I can see why the dad would get as mad as he did. Both are still in the wrong.
the employee did nothing wrong
he made the spergy remark when he shouldn't have said anything at all, not apologizing is fine thoughalbeitever
being bad at telling jokes is not a crime
No one mentioned criminal activity. in this thread.
It's not bad either morally speaking
He still did the right thing by not apologizing
Yeah it comes across making light of it by imitating an old, pearl clutching biddie who'd take offense at mentioning periods and menstrual blood in public. But the reference of a pre-60's housewife is completely lost on someone born in like 2007. But because he's a sperg he doesn't understand that.
>am I missing anything?
It's "What would the neighbours think [if they could see what was in the bag]?" The implication being they'd be judged for the contents
He probably posts pedo threads on >>>/vp/.
based employee
He sounds like a loser to me.
If he was black you'd all be calling him based
Who are you referring to, the father or the employee?
You probably aren't wrong.
He's referring to the employee.
At around 5:50 the second dad says he's already had to tell the clerk to stay away from a 12 year old in the shop. That plus the gardevoir thing on his shirt makes me think he's a /vp/edo
or maybe the father is a moron
The guy is an autist and moron but the family is full of overly sensitive morons. I can't imagine what brings a person to go to a store to scream in someone's face like this. He made a bad joke he'd didn't grab the girl's boob and scream HONK HONK. I'm so embarrassed to live in this moron country.
My favorite part is when the woman points out the number on the billboard, showing that he wasted his time with all the yelling.
And you just wasted your time making this post to b***h
He was making suggestive comments about the girl's period pads, that's creepy as hell.
Jesus this is just autistic. The black sperg going super karen on a cashier having made a mild joke wanting him to lose his job is just petty.
>The black sperg going super karen
Doesn't look black to me.
4:52: you don't joke around with women like that PERIOD
ironically that would make a good period joke.
>Modern Pokémon fan
You can tell which anon here are just like the spergy dude irl by their replies lol
Facts. Hope they're too scared to leave their homes and not out being weirdos like the cashier.
I'm gonna leave my home and be a weirdo just to spite normalgays like you. You think just because the world belongs to you you can punch the little guy down however you please. Maybe I'll get into a fight with a guy like the dad from the video. Maybe he'll kick my ass but I'll be sure to gouge his eyes out. I'll go to jail and I'll suffer and I'll live through decades of hell on Earth but when I come out I will have come out a stronger, wiser man, with more life experience than most. While normalgays will be too cowardly to ever do anything interesting with their lives.
Redditors
The cashier probably browses reddit like (You).
Kid toucher phenotype.
least autistic /vp/homosexual.
He look EXACTLY like you'd expect
My queen!
She is my goddess and her cheetos are my alter
Based Gardevoir chad making insecure dad seethe with bants
The title is clickbait because he literally said that she was "almost crying." Keep in mind, he was probably just exaggerating to be dramatic and even then, he admitted she didn't cry.
It's not likely that it's the father's channel.
People keep ragging on the Gardevoir badge but if you look closely above it it says The State Alchemist so he's giving Full Metal Alchemist chads a bad name too.
The line's been crossed by worse shit that is more tasteless by the likes of Millar, Loeb, and Ennis. But this is in a book that is much more popular and in a time of hypersensitivity. So more people will focus on this potentially. I don't get bent out of shape over it since it's a comic and also this company has proven it can keep going lower than previously thought possible and I've grown apathetic. I can't predict if this will matter in the end, but it should since it basically highlights ineptitude on several facets of Marvel. But yeah I'm willing to be a moralgay and say that this is tasteless. I hope Slott can put his writing down and prove he is even worse than Wells. Slott sometimes can write something with some level of competency but other times he just shits on the page and turns it in for Marvel to publish.
Slott is the equivalent of that dude in highschool who keeps asking people to finish his work for him.
When will they just let Kamala frick the shit out of Peter? She clearly wants to, just let it happen. Islam is politically correct, so it doesn't matter if there's an age gap
Exactly. The Middle East doesn't have an age of consent, and Allah probably wants it to happen. Kamala needs to frick Peter to please Allah.
Isn't Kamala pakistani/of pakistani descent? That's not in the region the world calls the Middle East, at all.
It all makes sense.
Blackcat, Mj and Gwen shippers can all win aswell.
Peter can have 4 wifes!
Isn't Kamala 18 already?
Just recently
Oh right, Peter and Kamala body swapped once so shouldn't she already know his name and face?
If Marvel had the balls, they'd let her bang Scott.
How in the hell out of all the garbage that came out of 31 today, that this became the most talked about shit. It's truly baffling that this run can't even gain a single ounce of good traction. It's barely controversial, it's a dull robot chicken line by a dude who should just write deadpool.
>spiderboy tie in was good though.
>skip twitter screencap
>look at panel
Well yeah, Spider-Man's identity leaking out is genuinely a threat to him and his lifestyle. Is it a good line? Debatable. Is it a good joke? Debatable. Is it EXCEEDINGLY BAD? No.
It's just extremely out of character for Spider-Man to crack a joke at the expense of his biggest fan who fricking died of Leukemia, especially considering he went to see said fan mere weeks before he died as the kid's last wish.
Yeah, no real defense for it being out of character for him, that much is certain. A better writer wouldn't write it so blatantly.
>That lighting at the end and Spidey feeling like shit
We used to get real comicbooks
Hilariously if they did the Clone Saga now, we’d believe that the Peter we’ve read for the last 20 years has been the clone because of how out of character he is. If 80/90’s Spider-Chad came back we’d know instantly he was the one true Spider-Man
TAS did a superb job adapting this story.
I dunno I feel like Peter being forced to talk to the girl kind of takes away from it a bit
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS 50 YEAR OLD ONE-SHOT!?!?
boo fricking hoo
everybody whining about how offensive spidey cracking a joke like this needs to grow a fricking backbone
>must defend homosexualy hack writers
>must defend cringe
I’m not defending the quality of the writing - the big two have been shit for years, but 90% of the complaints aren’t about the overall mediocre writing they’re specifically people crying and complaining about
>EHRMAGEHRD HOW COULD HE MAKE FUN OF MY LE SAD DYING KID FROM 40 YEARS AGO!?!?! NOTMUHSPOODERMAN!!!1!
which is just dumb as frick.
You ever see Gilbert Gottfried talk about people saying too soon? He criticizes people who can't take a joke about 9/11 right about a month after it happened. Yet those same people are fine with jokes about the Titanic. Just because it happened 100 years ago, it's fine to make fun of them? That road goes both ways. The way in which the joke is told, where it is told, and who it is told to matters. Not when.
We have backbones, you have mistaken that giant wiener up your ass as yours.
I think it's pretty sad if you only ever apply your "backbone" to cry about mildly edgy jokes in comic books
Considering you have heroes that can treat these illnesses just makes 616 look cruel
Very good point
Yeah now that I've thought about it more and talked about it with anons, laughing at leukemia is not something Spider-Man would ever do. He had a story asking literally God why Aunt May had to be shot and almost fricking dying in a hospital bed. This is so far off the mark for Spidey I can see why someone would say it's "EXCEEDINGLY BAD" but really this is far from the worst we've had as of late for capeshit or even Spidey
I feel like in a better run it would just be look at as a shitty joke and people would wonder why it's there, but because this run has been so unbelievably shit and consistently has people out of character it's getting shit on a lot more
This is the real thing. It's not a Peter line misfiring once in a while, that shit happens. It's that Peter's been written so poorly so consistently for so long that people just are not willing to give Marvel the benefit of the doubt.
Agreed. All we can do is hope the next writer doesn't have their head up their ass. Fat chance, but still.
LMAO wells really saw everyone say frick them kids and went directly after kids with leukemia.
The only people these writers care about is themselves. Not kids with leukemia, not the fans, and definitely not Spider-Man. They’ll toss them all aside just to feel clever for a moment. It’s pretty evil actually.
I feel like the people who are defending the shitty joke are just taking it at face value as some edgy joke. They probably haven't read the issue it's referring to and don't really care about the implications of Peter making a joke about a dead kid that idolized him.
It's something made and enjoyed with zero thought involved
I feel like Peter could have explain it literally any other way and no one would even notice this panel existed. Non-zero chance Wells will turn around and say "heh, I sure got people talking about that line"
Just like how there’s a non-zero chance Wells will be burning in hell for this.
I'm not even sure if he realizes the issue where Spidey did exactly that panel's statement actually exists
If we’re being honest, I don’t even think these writers can read. They can see words and understand sentences, but their left-leaning brains FORBID subtext. That’s why they think all their meta shit is clever
Isn't the superhero comic industry full of writers that learned to write from reading comics? That's why everything sucks.
>It’s pretty evil actually.
pussy.
The guy who posted the panel was complaining that everyone was taking it out of context and that it was meta. Then again dude is a diehard dickriding spiderman wells fan.
who?
>Lets that panel through
>Also lets this comic through
Is Nick Lowe asleep at the wheel or something
Endgame was the last time anyone at Marvel's management level was awake
>My name is Thor and I'm here to say
10/10
I find the implication that Asgard has gang violence pretty funny.
are you tring to imply that gang violence problem in asgard is related to the new population cultural enrichment?
I didn't imply that, it was the artist idea to have shoe tossing in the image. I imagine the artist has seen shoe tossing before and thought it was cool and implimented it for the aesthetic and "culture" without knowing what it actually meant.
>without knowing what it actually meant
shoes on wires indicating gang territory is a /misc/ myth
Shoe tossing existed way before /misc/ my guy.
Not saying it can't be an urban myth but if it is then it's one that's lasted decades or American history.
>Shoe tossing existed way before /misc/ my guy.
Yeah, and long before Black person street gangs, too, dumbass. The point is it's not a gang thing.
Literally never said black gangs invented it, just gangs in general.
What I was told it goes way back to mafia gangs trying to mark smuggling drops or territories and it's just something adopted by criminals over generations. Maybe it goes back farther I dunno.
It's as old as electrical/telegraph wires, and variations of it probably are as old as shoelaces themselves.
This doesn't really disprove the idea that it was originated by gangs/criminals.
As long as there has been laws, there has been criminals.
I don't hate this.line because it's "tasteless" I hate it because it's trying to take the piss out of one of the best spiderman stories as if Wells thinks his pile of congealed spidey editorial spunk is in any singular way not inferior to.it
It's more optimistic to say he's completely oblivious to it, because if he knows about the story and how it goes and then wrote that panel with that story in mind...
The more I hear about Marvel and DC now, and the comics industry as a whole, the more I believe the train of thought your post infers. They really don't fricking know what the hell they're writing, or understand the legacy of the characters they're using. It seems as though they barely even comprehend the direct events you see on the surface level.
Who fricking cares about the "legacy"? Comic books are for little children. They don't care. Why do you care? Oh, because you're an autistic manchild who obsesses over kiddy crap. Get a job and get a life, loser. Or just join the army, they always need new meat shields.
(You)
From that logic, it’s even more terrible. These shitty writers are projecting their narcissism into a media meant for little kids. How do you think that’s going to affect future generations? Gen Z has already become insufferable as a whole online.
The problem is that we don't beat kids anymore. Beating kids fixes anything that's wrong with them. And we don't have any big wars to send them to die in, so we can weed out the weak. Society runs on blood and violence, and everyone has forgotten that, which is why society is collapsing.
The only wars you've ever taken part in were behind your PC.
People try to satisfy their inherent urge to kill with fake violence, and that's why there's so many weak people now. Humans are warriors, and warriors should be fighting and killing.
You couldn't kill a fly.
>there's so many weak people now. Humans are warriors
that's a contradiction
Do kids need to be beat? That’s a question I’ve had on my mind for awhile.
>majority of kids consoome other goyslop
Frick, there’s no way to circumvent the eventual idiocracy, is there?
>Do kids need to be beat?
Yes, over and over again, until they either stop being so weak and pathetic, or until they die. Then you have more kids, and rinse and repeat until you produce a kid that's strong enough to survive. That's the goal of evolution: to create something strong enough to kill everything else. A perfect world would be one where everyone is fighting and killing each other until only one person is left. That person will be the Best Grug, the winner of the game of life, and they will have earned the right to be the sole living thing that exists. No one other than the absolute strongest living thing deserves to live.
>Yes, over and over again, until they either stop being so weak and pathetic,
They're children. Take your meds.
It's not my fault that kids are so weak. That's their fault. The weak always love to play the victim card.
you don't understand how evolution works
Scientists are weaklings, nothing they have to say matters. Only strength matters. Be strong or get off my planet. MY planet. Mine.
Trough midwit take. You won't do shit.
by that logic (You) me and everyone on this autistic board was never beat you dunder head
this is so unhinged it makes me laugh
i seriously cant tell if this is a troll or not
Where the hell are the jannies?
Kids probably don't even give a frick about this current run. The majority of kids are getting their comics fix from fricking fortnite. If not that, then TV shows. Comics these days like the current ASM run aren't written for anyone but the writer's ego.
That's all fine and dandy for children to read, according to that anon. Comics will never ever be written for someone over the age of 6 regardless of publisher or content.
Comic books, video games and cartoons are all for kids. You should have adult hobbies, like watching sports or drinking beer.
Being an alcoholic isn't a hobby.
Ok manchild
What of the big twos line up is written with children in mind? Last time wells wrote for this book he wrote a scene of a father graphically eating his son.
Unless it's a reference to a real kid dying then it seems entirely one brand. Spider-Man is an butthole.
Twxtter threads should be punishable by death
Being weak should be punishable by death. All of modern society's problems are caused by the ridiculous notion that the weak somehow deserve to exist. They don't. Only the strong deserve to exist. Be strong or die.
>mfw I kill babies for being too weak
You're not edgy, just stupid.
At least I got some discussion about Spider-Man out of it, even if OP decided to post a dumbass fricking screencap instead of just the panel itself
>still replied anyway
You are the reason they keep happening
Yeah it made me cringe. That was one of favorite spider man comics.
What the frick is wrong with modern day readers? This is harmless.
were raised by guys like this
A good portion of capeshit readers have no sense of humor and take this as mocking an actual dying little boy.
It's fricking cruel and OOC for Spidey. But then again, anyone still reading capeshit has only themselves to blamr.
That tweeter was right, Whedon insincerity seems to have brain broken people into thinking this is funny
Just because it's bad doesn't mean it's not a joke.
It seems harmless because it's a throwaway joke. There was zero thought into it beyond
>hey remember one of those times Peter took off his mask
But when you actually read it you realise that Peter's making light of a terrible situation, which is extremely out of character for him.
>which is extremely out of character for him.
He has been out of character for over a decade.
>Peter's making light of a terrible situation, which is extremely out of character for him
>Peter making light of a situation
>extremely out of character for him
In what fricking multiverse?
>Peter makes light of a tense situation
Ok
>Peter makes light of a fricking child's death
Not ok
Have you read Spider-Man before?
is it something to be mad about? no
is it funny? no
is it kinda weird to be irreverent about dying children? yes
only a teenager or someone without anyone to truly care deeply for would respond like "well why does everyone care? children die sometimes. people need to relax and just accept that"
yes, we know children die. I'd just prefer if it was at least a good joke and not some off-handed pseudo-witty remark by a character who usually cares about these things
I think it's funny how people on Twitter act like Wells is directly targeting sick kids with this joke.
It’s more like he’s riding the coattails of a much better story to prop his crap up. Something leftists doo all the time. It’s theft.
It’s a joke.
It’s not funny. Ignoring its controversial nature, it’s just a non-sequiter akin to the “you don’t have to tell me twice except during the stone age” joke from Sonichu. No setup, no consequences, and no meaningful punchline. This is shy fans are pissed, writers criticize them all the time but can’t make anything decent themselves.
I don't think it's something to be up in arms about, but it is a shit joke, written by a shit writer, approved by a shit editor, that doesn't suit the character. It's just another example of what makes this run so disliked, as was the wet fart that Peter and Felicia's relationship ended on in this issue, just one year after they got back together.
the problem is how the critique is constructed,It's stupid to blame this on Whedon.
I'm not even offended even though it's one of my favorite stories (in two versions, even: the comic and Spider-Man TAS adaptation), I'm just baffled anyone could unironically write this down and look at it as the kind of a clever zinger fans would love because they recognize the reference.
Wasn't this the first episode of the series?
No, that's the Lizard episode. But it's the episode that tells you Spider-Man origin story through Peter's tale to a cancer girl (IIRC Mysterio episode also does a retelling, but personally I got introduced to it thanks to seeing this episode first) so maybe you got Mandela'd.
I think it's the first episode I watched
Has #31 even been storytimed here yet?
I don't think so
None of the comics were ripped yet, even DC
readcomic website last update was the children one.
It is tasteless, but I'm not sure Marvel has any more lines left to cross.
>People are unironically getting upset about this lame quip
Touch grass.
You touch grass, Marvel employee
no u
I think it's just more shit on the camel's back.
If this had been done in a vacuum or in a good run, then people wouldn't mind as much. It's the fact that every opportunity, the run has tried to "trigger" fans. From Paul, to Peter shoving his head up Norman's ass, Kamala dying etc.
Also... it's not a good joke. It's just the writer jabbing you in the ribs and going "Remember this?!" It's like when Tom King did an All-Star Superman reference. It's cheap and lazy, designed to get people talking which were doing now.
That's it.
Paul is the worst thing they did to this franchise
It's too dark a joke for Spidey.
Yes, it's tasteless. Spider-Man jokes around but he can be serious and quiet as well. He isn't a complete social autist especially the older he becomes. Not to mention this is just hilariously bad dialogue in general. Who would ever talk like that especially when it comes to dead children. Frick Marvel's Cuck-Man. Frick Spider-verse as well for celebrating this manchild mentality modern Spider-Man has.
nah having peter be beaten up or rescued by a woman at least once every 3 issues, while also never having him rescue women, is way more offensive. the same is male characters constantly being drawn shirtless or only their underwear yet female characters are never sexulized and all have gotten their cleavage censored
true
I'm pretty sure this is a page from the run before
mj and felicia used to show more cleavage in the past, it is not very detailed either. male muscles however are always drawn front and center with close ups
also that issue features him getting rescued yet again
mj even easily beats up a villain something peter fails and struggles to pull off
This feels like another case of comic Twitter being mad at a certain writer accusing him of racism and sexism (killing kamala) and now trying to examine every word he writes in a comic under a microscope in order to find more shit to get him canceled over. you don't even need to do this with zeb because his writing sucks ass.
they tried to do this with Tom King, Tom Taylor and Tim Seeley too
Seeley had it so bad during Grayson and Nightwing. Dickfujos are fricking unhinged.
>they tried to do this with Tom King, Tom Taylor and Tim Seeley too
and yet all they write is woke stuff were the supposed white male "protagonist" is a depressed loser who gets rescued or beaten up by women every issue and who constantly loses his shirts while his once sexy female love interested is always fully covered up and flat chested
Tom And Taylor especialy ahve white men be beaten up or rescued by women and drawn shirtless/taking a shower at least once every issue.
The zipp gayot or what ever his name is did the exact same shit with Daredevil.
It is also predictable and by the books
I know we aren't trying to defend Jon Kent mid steven universe injustice adventure.
holy shit so that's the power of multi-billion dollar company?
It’s a lame joke at worst, but Marvel has spent the last decade or so trying to cultivate the people who would be furious about this as their fans. Given how they’re writing MJ and Felicia, I’m all for Wells and Lowe getting pilloried as misogynists and abusers.
Yeah it’s fricked up cause everybody forgot about Disney suing a dad for having Spider-Man stuff placed at his kids funeral.
You know why it doesn't work?
It's something Deadpool would say not Spiderman.
This is such a dumb fricking thing to complain about
Also there was a story in the 2000s similar to The Kid Who Collects expect the kid was black and had a dysfunctional family. But then again when Spider-Man took off his mask he was black so it might have been all a fantasy.
These things are all written by shitty ai, that AI being "human" beings only fed training data from quippy movies and cape comics with zero life experience to fill in the gaps. A copy of a copy, a painting made by someone who has only seen portraits and never the real world. And they've not even seen ALL the portraits, just the most mainstream surface level works. How could you ever expect worth from people like that? Media overexposure is poisonous to the creative mind.
Peter making poor taste jokes is entirely in-character. It's like you casuals only know Spider-man from the Raimi movies.
Yeah I like that part of Spider-Man where Carnage eats that town and Peter says, "Boy he sure is hungry!"
Or that other time when Green Goblin killed Gwen and he said, "Gee gobby how come every time you show up everyone gets whiplash?"
My favorite one was when Skip returned and Peter says, "Boy Skip, I already know how it feels to get fricked....by Marvel!"
Really makes me feel aware of everyone else's tropes and storylines and makes me feel above them for no reason. Gives the writer free reign to do whatever he wants which boils down to just ripping off another storyline while making tacky lines.
He’s revealing his identity to a colleague, not quipping while scores of people are dying. It’s completely in-character for Peter to joke in a moment like that.
The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man came out in 1984. b***hing about a wisecrack referencing a 40-year-old oner is fuvkibg petty, autistic, clickbait outrage.
Nah man. It's OOC for Peter because in the chronology of the story it only happened a decade the most, or a couple years ago at the least. Marvel's timescale is moronic but whatever that is what they went with. Point is, to have investment in the stories I need to believe Peter's character is the same and consistent. He needs to act how he would if the world was real to him. In this instance, I'm supposed to believe Peter who had so much death in his life trivializes it in such a half ass way? Sure he has joked about death before but not at the expense of those he cared about. I don't care if it's a joke, if you tell it in a moronic way then it's not funny and it can lead to shit like this apathetic drivel Wells is writing. If Marvel still wants me to care about the character they should respect what has gotten him this far. Also I don't think you understand the word implication behind Peter's words. If he is willing to joke about sick kids like that then that's equivalent to me going to a guy to show him a trick and then say, "yeah buddy you're special because I only do this for kids who are dying in painful ways. You're lucky." Y'see how I'm basically saying how he's lucky because he is seeing my trick and not because he's not dying from illness? I'm essentially making that shit all about myself. So yeah if you can't see that, you're moronic, underage, or both.
>I can only stay invested in stories about this sixty year old character with ~1500+ issues and three dozen movies and cartoons if I can believe all of these stories occur within the same continuity.
Jesus Christ, grow the frick up.
>all of these
Nowhere in that guy's post I see him saying he's demanding the cartoons and the movies be in the same continuity though. Sounds like a bit of an odd leap to make.
None of these moronic-ass examples from your head are comparable to this innocent joke.
>making fun of Goblin's man-purse was too far
>making fun of kids with cancer is fine though
I'm really glad people are going out of their way to defend Peter joking about a kid who died to his friend. Remember when Edward was chilling with his friends and remembered when he found Nina fused with her pet and said "That was the start of our dog days huh?"
Well Peter already argued in favor of killing other people even ones of his family in another very beloved piece of media. If you hate him joking about a dying kid with leukemia but love the other thing you are a moron.
yeah it's really bizarre seeing people in here openly defending this like it's remotely in character. Hell, you had some people above saying it IS in character which is just baffling. I don't know what's wrong with this place anymore
>2011
>Spider-Man quips to a man, whose wife and children were brutally murdered in front of him, that it's great to see him dating again, after noticing his female sidekick.
Hahaha! Classic Spider-Man! So funny!
>2023
>Spider-Man quips to Ms. Marvel that he usually wouldn't share his identity with anyone but Make-A-Wish kids, but is making an exception for her.
Waaaah! Not muh Spider-Man! Such a betrayal!
punisher deserves it, he is not only a murderer but he tried to kill peter several times.also the joke is funny unlike the OP's image
That very page acknowledged how tasteless it was.
Yeah, it's almost like Spidey has been shit since the mid 90's.
He's not joking specifically at the expense of a specific kid who died to his friend. He doesn't say "I wouldn't normally do this unless you were a sad child fan with terminal leukemia". He's joking that he doesn't share his secret identity with just anyone. Everyone here is just reading too fricking much into it and trying to assert that it's some secret evil sleight to a 40-year-old issue instead of just a mediocre joke that also happens to be a vague reference.
The joke is cringy, but it's nothing to get worked-up about. Though your shitpost implies bigger emotions than the screenshot shows.
>b-but
Yeah, I know you're just trying to stir shit up, but it's not an excuse; get better material then.
Have we really ran out of things to shit on Welles for that we're getting to nitpick territory
>Have we really ran out of things to shit on Welles for
Don't be absurd.
So many Marvel shills are out here in this thread, they should just make a new series for Damage Control with how much of it is going here.
yes
Why the frick do you people still read this?
I'm not trying to be mean but you know it's going to be bad. You know the people working on it are 60 year old suit's who refuse to have Spiderman develop anything and hack writers who are desperate/stupid enough to put up with said suits and do whatever they tell them in the dumbest ways possible.
So why do you guys still linger?
>Whedon
stopped reading right there. Stop letting that hack live rent-free in your minds.
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>Being this disingenuous
Not even worth a (You).
>being a passive aggressive b***h
Late stage leftwingism
>Is he right?
Mostly.
Wells and the Whedon School of Writing are incapable of being sincere. everything is filtered through the lens of irony or meta-humor.
>Was Zeb Wells' joke tasteless
who gives a shit? Jokes can be tasteless and edgy without being obnoxiously Whedon-esque.
He might’ve left Robot Chicken, but Robot Chicken never left him.
>making an edgy joke about people you don't know
Tasteless but whatever, it's an edgy joke
>making an edgy joke about someone you knew who is now dead
Sociopathic
What a lousy mean spirited "joke" is Wells usually a /b/ tier tryhard? I haven't read Spidey since OMD so I'm out of the loop.
His most recognised story is the one where Curt Connors eats his own son so you tell me