Read all 10 books. They’re fantastic sci-fi. The show has a few episodes that aren’t so good (mostly Naomi related ones). But overall it’s the best sci-fi show in decades.
It took me like 3 tries to get into the first episode but I just brute forced the first few episodes and was hooked
Show took a huge nose dive when Amazon took over though, stopped watching then.
If it's the same show I'm thinking of, it happened to me too. There was this fedora wearing detective who acted like a redditor. He alone made me drop it completely.
You might as well stop after the first season.
Most actors are pretty shit and don't get any better, the only really good part in the later seasons for me was the stuff with Amos and the chick on Earth.
First couple seasons have great production values but things get a bit claustrophobic as the seasons go by with most of the action happening in the same ship sets. Plus most of the main cast are boring and wooden. Still worth watching for the few interesting characters and for the kino setpieces.
S1 - The somewhat limited budget shows but it's still good, more focus on the intrigue and mystery than big flashy battles.
S2 - Certified kino, bigger budget, peak of the show (climax of book 1)
S3 - A step down from S2 in story but still excellent
S4 - Amazon takeover, a downgrade in some writing aspects, an upgrade in budget, still very enjoyable despite the drawbacks
S5 - The Naomi season, there are still some worthwhile moments but if you don't like the character/actress you will dislike a large portion of the season.
S6 - Slight improvement over S5 but still the 2nd worst season, fewer episodes and finally finishes the Naomi slog with the promise of big happenings on the horizon (that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
>(that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
that you could see in the future if another network picks it up since there is a large time skip*
Good post. Listen to this anon. >that you'll never see because the show is canceled
Never say never man
There is always a 1% chance Amazon comes to their senses and dumpsters WoT and LaaawdemRangz and reallocates their budget for the glory of Laconia
>(that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
I thought the show was meant to end there and all that other shit was just to set up a potential spin-off taking place on the planets with all new characters?
>I thought the show was meant to end there and all that other shit was just to set up a potential spin-off taking place on the planets with all new characters?
apparently the books continue the stories with a time skip but dealing with the new planet we saw at the end turn into an evil empire and finally answering the alien question.
Are we talking time skip and all the characters just being older and still doing the same shit, or time skip and a new generation, maybe some kids of the OGs, dealing with a completely new political landscape and alien shit?
It's been like thirty years. It's the same characters but they've been living their lives happily and everything's carried on with peace between Earth, Belt and the new colonies. Laconia is the planet at shown in season 6. They've been researching the alien technology and created a fleet of alien battleships. They want to go back and take over the Sol system and ring space and make an interstellar empire.
That sounds fricking stupid, having a whole solar system for themselves and deciding to risk being nuked into oblivion or cut off from the civilisation instead. The politics so far made sense because there's such a problem with limited space and resources in Sol.
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Anonymous
No, it's not. It's the best part of the series. That's a brief summary and there's obviously far more to it.
S1 - The somewhat limited budget shows but it's still good, more focus on the intrigue and mystery than big flashy battles.
S2 - Certified kino, bigger budget, peak of the show (climax of book 1)
S3 - A step down from S2 in story but still excellent
S4 - Amazon takeover, a downgrade in some writing aspects, an upgrade in budget, still very enjoyable despite the drawbacks
S5 - The Naomi season, there are still some worthwhile moments but if you don't like the character/actress you will dislike a large portion of the season.
S6 - Slight improvement over S5 but still the 2nd worst season, fewer episodes and finally finishes the Naomi slog with the promise of big happenings on the horizon (that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
yeah I second this guy, the adaptation of Abaddon's Gate is the series' peak
we lost on spectacle and stakes from the book and show Ashford and show Drummer are much better characters there than Bull, Ashford and Michio Pa
the show actually did ashford and drummer GOOD. ashford in the books isn't half as cool as he is in the show, drummer was never meant to be a huge character either
On season 4, decent but kind of slow now, heard it gets worse. Starts slow but season 1-3 are great. I am not a huge fan of the woke casting but they end up being pretty good.
And? Cinemaphile is a bunch of whiny homosexuals who complain over the littlest things and blow them out of proportion. You have imbeciles in here saying the whole series sucks because they watched only the first episode and decided it was horrible, and others recommending the garbage raise by wolves.
Raised by Wolves is much better than your gay space show with lesbian priests, polyamorous crew, endless girlboss', no budget, bad acting, hard (boring) sci-fi setting and killing a main character off due to nothingburger #metoo accusations.
The Expanse is only "good" relative to modern sci-fi shows.
I decided to leave read-only just to tell you that Raised by Wolvea sucks cow shit-covered dick and you should feel bad for even mentioning it at all.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry it didn't have enough 2SLGBTQIA+ representation for you. Stick with the Expanse.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's as woke as Expanse, moron. Both are shit, Raised by Wolves is just much more shitty.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Against all odds there are 0 gay characters, racial animosity, diverse recasting, modern American politics or anti-religious content in Raised by Wolves.
Unlike The Expanse it also had a high budget and good acting.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No one will take you seriously if you try to argue child actors are good actors
5 months ago
Anonymous
Better than Canadian TV actors feigning American accents.
what are you on about? most agree that the final 2 seasons are the worst. show peaked for me in season 3. 5 and 6 dedicates way to much time on noami and her son/ex. they also make holden out to be a dumb dumb to elevate side character women and pocs. amos on earth is pretty kino though but then they kill off alex in post production because of some cringey texts he sent some comic con bawds.
S1 - 4 are good and it's a satisfying place to end the series. S5 is shit, it's also when the pozzed content kicks into overdrive.
Raised by Wolves is a better show.
Generally they're pretty good with astronomical scale but this scene was deeply moronic. Could have fixed it by having him sleep and shower before the next moon or something.
True. I really liked when they 'zoom' onto ships that are really far away to show the scale and distance. That one is silly, but I get how it could be difficult to make it work for tv: showing what is many days of travel and in just a few minutes, planets so far apart they're just dots, and still be entertaining.
>and lead to the a kino part of the story
which we'll never see on screen, because amazon studios is headed by a massively moronic c**t
it would only work if some other channel like HBO acquired the rights
Stupid take. The reason why it gets so fricking shit is because of very boring storylines centering around of the worst characters in the series becomes the most integral part
its still pretty good. story drags in the later seasons, but just skip all the bullshit fluff, i personally skipped all the earth scenes with Amos and the crazy girl. just did not care about that shit at all.
Every excuse from the "fanbase" in here sounds like massive cope >suffer through these seasons until you get to a certain part >skip this person's scenes >stop before this season >ignore ___
I don't see how these guys can even say they're fans of the show with all those caveats like hating a main character and skipping all their scenes. I liked pretty much everything except the stuff on the settler planet with the kid in the last season because it didn't feel connected to the rest. It could have been better, like all shows, but compared to most Sci-Fi shows on tv it was fantastic.
>I liked pretty much everything except the stuff on the settler planet with the kid in the last season because it didn't feel connected to the rest.
It was supposed to be a setup for the next big story arc, that's why it was disconnected
But it could still have felt more connected to the bigger story by having more familiar faces on the planet, instead of it being an entirely new cast of randoms you didn't give a shit about. It felt clumsy in its setup, to the point where I thought they were trying to do a stealth spin-off attempt, not setting up future plot points in the main show.
>I thought they were trying to do a stealth spin-off attempt
that's what I thought too, since it was already announced that season 6 is the end for this show
and honestly I think the production company still hopes someone will pick this up for a spin-off, since they own everything, syfy and amazon only bankrolled the production by buying the streaming rights afaik
what I mean by that is IF another streamer decided to bankroll a "Expanse: Laconia" show, they wouldn't have to buy the rights for an exorbitant amount, so it's actually baffling why nobody stepped forward yet
the expanse just doesnt have a big enough audience for it to be worth it. the fans of the books/show are hardcore fans of about as obsessed with it as star wars types, but there aren't many of them
5 months ago
Anonymous
real shame man, yeah
and it was never really promoted anywhere, just imagine if it was
the only piece of promotion I can recall was that fat frick GRRM calling it "GOT in space" (no wonder, his ghost writers wrote the expanse books)
seriously just imagine if the expanse had an actual marketing campaign behind it based around "GOT in space — GRRM said so", so many normies would've tuned in
5 months ago
Anonymous
scifi like this just isnt really popular with people. they just want star wars tier shit
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'd say that the problem would be that when GRRM says GoT in space he means believable politics in a fantastical setting, but to most people GoT just meant lots of breasts and ass, with exposition-dumps happening during sex scenes, and everyone being killable. If they watched the first season of The Expanse they'd just feel lied to because they were promised breasts and dragons and shocking deaths every season.
You still see people defending the later seasons of GoT where they'd long given up on having believable politics(like the sand snakes getting revenge for Elia by... killing their prince and some kids with a moronic kissing poison), pretending that only the last season was actually bad.
5 months ago
Anonymous
real shame man, yeah
and it was never really promoted anywhere, just imagine if it was
the only piece of promotion I can recall was that fat frick GRRM calling it "GOT in space" (no wonder, his ghost writers wrote the expanse books)
seriously just imagine if the expanse had an actual marketing campaign behind it based around "GOT in space — GRRM said so", so many normies would've tuned in
I actually thought it would be like GoT but space but the politics scenes did not feel all too important. It really did feel just like Star Wars in space since a majority of the focus is on the crew and their problems. It feels like politics, at least in the show, takes a backseat. No idea how the book is like.
5 months ago
Anonymous
With how much politics made it into the show I'd wager that the books are definitely like GoT(the books) in space, it's the only reason I've put the books on my to read list. If there was less you wouldn't have as much background faction stuff popping up all the time in the show.
5 months ago
Anonymous
theres actually more politics in the show than in the books. avasarala isn't a character until the second book and after that she only shows up occasionally to yell at people for being morons.
all the stuff with bobby on mars being involved with the black market and her working as a spy for avasarala is all made up stuff for the show. bobby is in the second book and then basically disappears from the story until the 5th book
5 months ago
Anonymous
I find this very surprising. I can't think of another show where the writers made up more political situations instead of cutting a bunch out to streamline the action.
5 months ago
Anonymous
they had to do more political stuff in the show because it would have felt too disconnected in the tv show and you wouldn't know the reasons for why things are happening. the book has a lot of internal monologue and you cant really show that on screen.
5 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, you're probably right
hell, if the Lawd dem Rangz had breasts and ass in it every episode, I reckon – cynical as it is – it would've been a success
5 months ago
Anonymous
It would 100% have captured that mouthbreather GoT audience if there were breasts and gore all over the place. They'd tell themselves that they were finally watching LoTR for ADULTS, not the sanitised kiddy version.
Really you should just watch Feast, because the context does nothing and it's a hell of a ride. Monsters attack a bar and the random people in the bar have to band together to survive the night. They think that lady is dead because she was wounded in an attack and passed out. So they try to make a trap, hauling her body outside loaded with explosives so they can blow the monsters up when they come to attack her and eat her. Instead she wakes up and gets mouth-raped by the newly-born baby monster that's apparently horny instead of murderous. Also she's played by the director's wife.
On season 5 right now. Do they're ships have gravity or not? Sometimes they have things floating and have to wear magnet boots, but then in the same ship they walk around barefoot and stuff
when the ships are under acceleration they have gravity. when the ships are not under acceleration they do not have gravity and its all zero g. acceleration=gravity depending on how fast you are accelerating
The ships are built like skyscrapers. When they are under thrust, it can be at 1G and they have 'gravity'. When the ships are under higher thrust, they have to strap into chairs and use drugs since it can be 7G+.
the show doesn't go into this, but the ships are usually cruising at .3g acceleration because its the most efficient iirc. also belters dont like acceleration higher than this because they're weak lanklets that cant really handle it
look nig, we ain't astronomers, this is a tv show
constant .3G ACCELERATION mind you, not cruising speed, so in theory, you are going faster and faster every second
that's why they flip the ships around mid-journey and start to decelerate
Tell me, ship-knower, those cool tables they had with lights and plants growing inside them to make effective use of limited space... Were the plants meant to be food they picked periodically and used in the kitchen or was it for oxygen-production? The tables didn't seem to be as easy to harvest from as other grow racks, but plants in a table also wouldn't be as efficient at producing air as algae.
They had both. And there's a scene in Ganymede when the food runs out and people are starving, they start eating all the oxygen producing plants. The scientist is shaking his head saying that those plants won't nourish them and eating them will just help kill everyone faster.
the plants were mostly to clean the oxygen in the ship because they were running low on scrubbers or something and it would have taken too much time for them to find a dock somewhere and get new ones, so he just started doing stuff with plants
I started it like two weeks ago
I disliked the Cop character at first and found the beginning a bit slow but by like the third or fourth episode i got hooked
currently at season 3
it gives me light mass effect vibes
first 3 seasons are the best scifi since bsg. season 4 is kind of weak but watchable. season 5 is when it falls completely and becomes "the naomi". i couldn't finish s5.
the books are pretty enjoyable, i like the shorter chapters that bounce around between characters a lot more often.
I'll be honest, I'm tired and made the leap from naked to completely uncovered. I feel like you'd want to be strapped in for safety while sleeping, which would be helped with a sort of blanket tucking you in.
People would indeed strap themselves in before going to sleep on a spaceship, this is alluded to multiple times
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'll be honest, I'm tired and made the leap from naked to completely uncovered. I feel like you'd want to be strapped in for safety while sleeping, which would be helped with a sort of blanket tucking you in.
They clearly show her sleeping naked with a woman, unstrapped. She gets out of bed and walks around barefoot. After having been educated about the shows physics thanks to this thread, we know that this was during acceleration when they were pursuing space bun laden and Ashburn
5 months ago
Anonymous
I remember the pastor woman strapping herself in before going to sleep on the alliance battlecruiser heading to the ring gate, so maybe it's just Belters are moronic and careless, dunno
5 months ago
Anonymous
>we know that this was during acceleration when they were pursuing space bun laden and Ashburn
Yeah but what if there's an emergency and they have to quickly de-accelerate or change course in some drastic way? That's what you'd want to be strapped in for when sleeping, since you might not wake up fast enough to secure yourself if the alarm rings. If you're just using your bed for fricking and relaxing you obviously don't need to strap in.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Space is huge and things are far apart. They generally have enough time to get people strapped in or secured in some way, at least a few minutes but usually longer. I was just reading one section where they are surprise attacked by ships they thought were friendly. The alarms sounded, and they didn't have enough time to get to their normal crash couches, so they strapped into some nearby ones.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The belters wife in S4 wakes up and unstraps herself too.
their friendship being so well done has to do a lot with how they show it, i think. half the scenes with them is just some dull convo about plants and then they work together in silence. it works so well by contrasting amos' almost lunacy sometimes, to how quiet and calm he can be. the expanse has so many well done details like this that they completely lost when amazon bought it. whoever was in charge for the first 3 seasons knew what they were doing
The first arc was undoubtedly sci-fi kino even with the shitty acting from Holden and Naomi.
Can without a doubt rewatch the first 3 seasons. 4 is a slog but concludes the major arc of the first 3 seasons.
The latter seasons had it's moments but falls short. Most of the main protags had less interesting story points than the side characters from what I remember.
Keting ere pashang to ta showxa fo mi, to sabaka mali? Mi wanya to fo sasa mi finyish ere fosh pelésh ere imbobo xunyam mi ere da OPA, unte mi ta go fo walowda raids ere UN, unte mi decho seri xanya mang fosho. Mi sasa dewe fo du xite lik wa gorilla unte mi da bosmang sniper ere da OPA. To nating fo mi amash wang mo ting fo du xite. Mi gonya leta-go to da pashang kuku wit precision lik tumang vedi natim, pochuye da wowt mi showxa. To pensa to kang showxa dedawang fo mi ere da network? Pensa wamotim, pashangwala. Xitim, mi showxa fo secret spy network mi unte im ando trace IP to, deradzhang to mowsh kom sif gútegow fo da storm, koyo. Da storm deting decho da ting to du nem livit to. To pashang det, maliwala. Mi kang bi kowpelesh, kowltim, unte mi kang decho to ere seng xanya we, unte dedawang bera wit xante mi. Mi oso tenye kowl da OPA tungeting, unte mi gonya du im kowl da we fo decho to, to kakamali. Sili bera to ta kang sasa deting unholy retribution wowt semówt mali ta gonya leta-kom ere to, mebi to ta na showxa. Amash to na ta kang, to na ta du im, unte xitim to mowsh gif peye fo im, to nakangepensa pashangwala. Mi gonya kaka fury kowl ere to unte im gonya decho to. To pashang det, maliwala!
He should have been given a bigger part of the show on par with throat cancer lady, to lend his kino powers that made Chernobyl and The Terror into hits.
What a shame. Although I suppose we might be blessed, with the timeline in question we might have lost out on him in Terror and Chernobyl if he was busy shooting The Expanse and the agency didn't want him doing more projects.
i like holden, the actor portrayed the book version well. holden is supposed to be pretty generic as to not out shine the rest of the main cast. the balance of the cast is pretty good until they make naomi the center of attention in s5 and completely ruin everything
Was there anything redeemable and non-moronic about Marco Inaros' plan?
The first book established that Mars and the outer planets were dependent on Earth for biologicals like soil and stuff that simply couldn't reproduced effectively elsewhere.
Targeting Earth with rocks seems like an elaborate way to commit suicide as a species.
>outer planets
homie did you even read a book or watch the show? there are only 3 powers: earth, mars and the outer belt. there no "other planets", just a few spaces stations, mining facilities etc
otherwise i agree, marco was a fricking moron and not even a good bad guy
there isn't a single planet other than mars colonized in the books or show. opa refers only to being in the outer planetary system, not that they've colonized pluto or something.
you're being pedantic for no reason, "outer planets" is a phrase used in the books for anything past Mars (Ceres the dwarf planet, the Jovian system, the Saturn system, other rocks and stations)
>stop worrying about the definition >heres what opa actually means
kek
5 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't know what OPA stands for
2/10, try again lmao
5 months ago
Anonymous
>i'm wrong but i'm going to double down
go cry elsewhere.
5 months ago
Anonymous
lol you already lost to him
5 months ago
Anonymous
Outer Planets Alliance, anon. You lost.
I think he’s embarrassed he mixed up “Outer Planets” with “other planets”
>outer planets
homie did you even read a book or watch the show? there are only 3 powers: earth, mars and the outer belt. there no "other planets", just a few spaces stations, mining facilities etc
otherwise i agree, marco was a fricking moron and not even a good bad guy
>there no "other planets"
And then tried to play it off with shitposting kek
5 months ago
Anonymous
list those "outer planets". just list them
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jupiter
Saturn
Neptune
Uranus
Try harder next time homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
i always wondered why they chose Outer Planets
5 months ago
Anonymous
Earth and Mars colonized the asteroid Belt. The Belters in turn colonized the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, which is why the OPA is called the Outer Planets Alliance rather than the Asteroid Belt Alliance or something.
The Belters felt that they were under the boot of Earth and Mars and formed the OPA as a loose affiliation of factions. Fred Johnson is the legitimate face of the OPA. Anderson Dawes runs the powerful faction on Ceres. But there are hundreds of factions.
So “Belter” is a bit of a misnomer. A better description would be “Spacer”. The Belters identify as a group of people adapted to living in space, whether that is the Belt, Jovian moons, moons of Saturn, etc. Hence why they separate the Inner Planets - Earth and Mars - from the Outer Planets and Belt
A major reason why the Belters have not divided into several distinct cultural entities is due to their physiology: gravity on the Jovian moons is 0.1-0.15g or so. The max gravity of a spin station is 0.3g (so less than Mars), and the poorest Belters live near the center of spin in an average of 0.1g, or even on the float in rock hoppers or non-spun stations like Pallas.
So, the thing that unifies Belters is not their physical location - it’s their physiology. They feel that all of these outer system colonies are theirs because they aren’t nearly as capable of living down a substantial gravity well on a terrestrial world. They are adapted to space. As is said several times in the show, they are “born of the void”, and the “place they go is the place they belong”. So that is slightly different than a typical colonization story, in that the colonists aren’t identifying with where they live nearly as much as how they live. They aren’t a true race in the historical sense, but they might as well be due to their physiological/cultural differences - the OPA is as much of a racial/cultural rallying organization for the Belters as it is a political one
so, you can't list shit because you know mars is the only other power thats planet-wide. thanks for proving my point, maybe other people will read the books too at some point.
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those are gas giants anon, there is no presence on such a thing. at most there is a mining colony or similar thing
lmao moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
Outer Planets Alliance, anon. You lost.
5 months ago
Anonymous
which planets?
5 months ago
Anonymous
The Outer ones I already listed 🙂
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I think he’s embarrassed he mixed up “Outer Planets” with “other planets” [...] >there no "other planets"
And then tried to play it off with shitposting kek
Yeah I know, but it's funny to watch the damage control
5 months ago
Anonymous
so, you can't list shit because you know mars is the only other power thats planet-wide. thanks for proving my point, maybe other people will read the books too at some point.
Jupiter
Saturn
Neptune
Uranus
Try harder next time homosexual
those are gas giants anon, there is no presence on such a thing. at most there is a mining colony or similar thing
5 months ago
Anonymous
lol your cope is real haha
read the books and take it up with the author
5 months ago
Anonymous
>zero argument
i accept your concession.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>doubling down on coping
Lmao you really are upset you called them the “other planets”
you’d get it if you read the books. Reply to this post if you agree and concede.
5 months ago
Anonymous
which part of the books refers to any planetary power aside from earth and mars?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Read them and find out.
You’ll see why the name is Outer Planets Alliance.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i've read them all already which is why i can call your bullshit. you're not only wrong, but you have zero argument
5 months ago
Anonymous
You never read them, that’s why you asked about “other planets” lol.
They’re called the OPA. Outer Planets is a term they use. Cope.
the opa are belters living out in the belt on space stations built on moons or big asteroids like ceres and eros. humans cant live on any planets other than earth and mars because they are either gas giants or too close to the sun. pluto is not a planet
It was if you wanted soil or seeds or plants or animals or medicine or other pharmaceuticals like book 1 established Mars and the Belt depended on Earth for
I think the idea would be that they would have power over Earth then and could dictate terms essentially forcing Earth to be their b***hes as revenge. Plus they could always try and establish supply lines to some of the planets in the new systems. And he thought Laconia would still be their friends and was pretty upset when they suddenly cut ties and said anyone that comes into their ring dies.
>can broadcast to the entire solar system >sends a message accusing mars of attacking some ship >this has the potential to start a war >communication systems receive the message and play it back to everyone
it's really that simple
yes because the books are 10x better than the show. the show made some improvements, like drummer is better in the show, ashford is better in the show, amos is a more complex character in the show. but overall the books do everything else better. just read them because we'll never see the last 3 books in tv.
naomi is much better in the books too. naomi isnt some stronk meme in the books, shes more like an IT geek book worm than anything else. holdens basically the same in the books but you dont have to deal with steven straits odd acting. steven grew on me after a while and i like him but hes not a very good actor
Well, Belters as a whole spend all the time whining, seething, being criminals and acting like terrorists. You're more likely to get robbed/killed by Belters if you go onto their stations. The 'good ones' are cool but come off as a different faction altogether. The population of Earth is shit and no one wants to go there. It's super overcrowded and everyone's on basic. The rulers of Earth just seem to scheme to ruin others, shit on everyone else in the system and find ways to take everything. Martians are advanced, hard working, professional, cooperative towards huge goals that they may never see fulfilled in their lifetimes but benefit the following generations greatly. It makes sense why the Martians would be liked most.
i watched the show first and read the books after, so i can look over the shows flaws. amos is cast well, steven as holden fits too but hes just not a good actor, naomi casting is awful. cas as alex is probably the best because it actually improved alex from the books, hes like an overweight balding indian guy in the books lol.
It's good enough, has plenty of good casting, and they tried pretty hard. And it's FAR better than every other scifi show on now or in the past many years. I'm not some autist that demands ultra perfection from shows. They're just fun entertainment and stories and I like scifi battles.
what hooked me immediately with the show was the grandiosity and presentation of it. it reminds me a lot of mass effect, theres a certain type of grandiosity to mass effect that i have never seen a scifi series capture until i watched the expanse. im a sucker for that type of shit i guess but not many games, books, or shows capture it very well. lawrence of arabia has it too
Same. At first, I really liked the Miller storyline and the near future Sol system aspect of it. But eventually came around to enjoying them finding the alien tech, how it changes humanity and how the changes propagate out throughout the various factions. Plus how it isn't as basic as "find alien tech, use it" but instead is revealed to have sinister implications and consequences.
i always see people complaining about the alien magic stuff in these threads and its obvious they dont understand the point of it. yes it does wild alien shit, but the point of it is to explore what humans would do with something that is basically a cheat code for being gods of the universe. the power hungry psychos of the world would absolutely do everything that is in the story and even more, and probably in worse ways too. the only flaw in the story that i can think of is that it makes power hungry people too competent
in the books there is actually a bunch of side chapters about ashford and stuff and how shit is before the events of the show. theres a scene in the show when he describes 'running silent' beneath an admirals other craft or so and stuff like that, they actually explore that in some of the sub-books.
I liked the belter administrator of Ceres in the last season just because she felt right for the part - a belter sure, but a hardworking bureaucrat first.
I've just watched the first 2 episodes and can already tell that every single plot line will devolve into "muh freedom for the belt" and the "mystery" of the girl the detective is looking for will fall flat. She's already a 22 year old freedom fighter who's sexually liberated and can easily take down full grown men and she's had 2 minutes of screen time. The acting was, for the most part, horrendous and it's a shame because those ice miners being stranded in space could have made some good tv if it wasn't for their performances.
>the "mystery" of the girl the detective is looking for will fall flat
yeah
She, along with Holden is just responsible for the entire events of the books and is central to the plot
your intuition is shit
>the mystery girl from the mysterious prologue scene who mysteriously abandonded her rich, powerful family for some myesterious reason is responsible for the events of the show
No shit, I already knew that from the first scene. I'm saying I already know it's going to fall flat and the show will rely completely onto its shallow politics.
Not him, but I’ve watched the first four seasons and disagree with that assumption. If you feel different, then don’t watch it, I could give a frick less.
yeah both kids end getting resurrected by the stray dogs/repair drones it becomes the basis for Duarte's immortality treatment amos gets killed and resurrected later as well
i bet youre the common Black personhomosexual complaining about the martions meanwhile bobby;s actress is actually simoen and shit.
the story doesn't have 5ft latinas, but youre so fricking dumb you wont care if i explain why.
I have no clue what you're talking about. Like I said, I dropped it relatively early. Everyone I talked to said that the show gets even worse afterwards so I don't regret it.
Imagine traveling to Saturn and living on a station out there for a while
I often have dreams and daydreams of being a lone technician or engineer on some space station maintaining some shit like a jump gate or just for scientific observation, a long way from Earth. Silly stuff, but the imagery of a station or ship with the backdrop of a gas giant or large astronomical object in the background is peak comfy to me.
Ever played Alien Isolation? Sevastopol station is like that. Very comfy sections just watching the clouds swirl on the planet below or space walking on the dark exterior and the huge planet off in the distance. When not getting attacked by the scary alien, of course.
>Granted, Farscape is hardly the fabulous one hundred percent gay fantasia its reputation often implies. It was weird within the comparative standards of ‘90s – early ’00s sci-fi, so we still didn’t have any canonically outright LGBTQ+ characters, with a few exceptions. Season one’s “The Flax” revealed that a male-passing alien guest character was actually a woman (though that gag teeters on the transphobic).
A whole article about nothing in other words.
It's pretty good. The book series is great, I enjoyed reading all of them. It's a shame the show ended where it did because shit gets crazy in the last few books.
I really liked it up to and including S4. S5 was mostly a boring slog and 6 feels weirdly paced, probably due to being so short.
Considering reading the books, does the story get any better post-show?
As a modern scifi show, yes, but that's a very low bar these days. Of course it's pretty shite compared to the original books and it gets progressively more shite as the script departs from the source material as seasons progress.
The actors are a bunch of cardboard cutouts who display none of the emotions of the original characters. Avasarala was probably most true to the original.
The quality drops steadily from season two onwards and season five is just a prolonged wet fart in a series form. Season six showed some promise but never got anywhere because of budget cuts.
I liked it. It's up there with the other great scifi shows for me
It's very good. Worth a watch.
Read all 10 books. They’re fantastic sci-fi. The show has a few episodes that aren’t so good (mostly Naomi related ones). But overall it’s the best sci-fi show in decades.
Starts slow, is pure scfi kino for a while, then it goes down the deep end and shits the bed hard.
heh
Exactly
it's kino until discount che guevara shows up
Should have ended when miller dies. The last couple seasons are not good
Glad it continued after miller dies. The last couple seasons are perfectly fine
I got filtered by the first ep. One of the worst things I've seen
how can you live with being so stupid?
>NOOO! YOU HAVE TO LIKE MY SCI-SLOP!!1
He's right, first ep is garbage
It took me like 3 tries to get into the first episode but I just brute forced the first few episodes and was hooked
Show took a huge nose dive when Amazon took over though, stopped watching then.
Why get over halfway through something then stop? The story is still interesting enough to finish.
not an incel but it legitimately got worse when the entire story focused on strong women
completely made me stop caring about the plot
If it's the same show I'm thinking of, it happened to me too. There was this fedora wearing detective who acted like a redditor. He alone made me drop it completely.
good. imbeciles like you would be horrible to have in the fanbase. now head on back to the marvel thread you crawled out of.
>fanbase
Thanks for letting me know I made the right choice
>to have in the fanbase
Look at this fricking gatekeeping nerd lol
That guy is actually pretty cool but he's kinda weird yeah
Same. So cheesy
You might as well stop after the first season.
Most actors are pretty shit and don't get any better, the only really good part in the later seasons for me was the stuff with Amos and the chick on Earth.
First couple seasons have great production values but things get a bit claustrophobic as the seasons go by with most of the action happening in the same ship sets. Plus most of the main cast are boring and wooden. Still worth watching for the few interesting characters and for the kino setpieces.
S1 - The somewhat limited budget shows but it's still good, more focus on the intrigue and mystery than big flashy battles.
S2 - Certified kino, bigger budget, peak of the show (climax of book 1)
S3 - A step down from S2 in story but still excellent
S4 - Amazon takeover, a downgrade in some writing aspects, an upgrade in budget, still very enjoyable despite the drawbacks
S5 - The Naomi season, there are still some worthwhile moments but if you don't like the character/actress you will dislike a large portion of the season.
S6 - Slight improvement over S5 but still the 2nd worst season, fewer episodes and finally finishes the Naomi slog with the promise of big happenings on the horizon (that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
This is pretty definitive. The only thing you forgot to mention is that all belters must fricking hang.
>(that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
that you could see in the future if another network picks it up since there is a large time skip*
Good post. Listen to this anon.
>that you'll never see because the show is canceled
Never say never man
There is always a 1% chance Amazon comes to their senses and dumpsters WoT and LaaawdemRangz and reallocates their budget for the glory of Laconia
That MCRN flag is inaccurate.
>(that you'll never see because the show is canceled)
I thought the show was meant to end there and all that other shit was just to set up a potential spin-off taking place on the planets with all new characters?
>I thought the show was meant to end there and all that other shit was just to set up a potential spin-off taking place on the planets with all new characters?
apparently the books continue the stories with a time skip but dealing with the new planet we saw at the end turn into an evil empire and finally answering the alien question.
Are we talking time skip and all the characters just being older and still doing the same shit, or time skip and a new generation, maybe some kids of the OGs, dealing with a completely new political landscape and alien shit?
It's been like thirty years. It's the same characters but they've been living their lives happily and everything's carried on with peace between Earth, Belt and the new colonies. Laconia is the planet at shown in season 6. They've been researching the alien technology and created a fleet of alien battleships. They want to go back and take over the Sol system and ring space and make an interstellar empire.
That sounds fricking stupid, having a whole solar system for themselves and deciding to risk being nuked into oblivion or cut off from the civilisation instead. The politics so far made sense because there's such a problem with limited space and resources in Sol.
No, it's not. It's the best part of the series. That's a brief summary and there's obviously far more to it.
Pretty much sums up my take as well, but I never got to s6 because of how bad s5 was.
High quality post
I slightly disagree though, for me the last half of s3 is like the coolest fricking thing ive ever seen
yeah I second this guy, the adaptation of Abaddon's Gate is the series' peak
we lost on spectacle and stakes from the book and show Ashford and show Drummer are much better characters there than Bull, Ashford and Michio Pa
the show actually did ashford and drummer GOOD. ashford in the books isn't half as cool as he is in the show, drummer was never meant to be a huge character either
Yes.
Yeah, some of the Naomi stuff gets a little tiresome but apart from that, Season 4 is the weakest, feels like absolutely nothing happens at all
On season 4, decent but kind of slow now, heard it gets worse. Starts slow but season 1-3 are great. I am not a huge fan of the woke casting but they end up being pretty good.
It gets better after 4 though. People were upset at 4 for primarily being set far away on a colony world.
Everybody ITT seems to strongly disagree.
And? Cinemaphile is a bunch of whiny homosexuals who complain over the littlest things and blow them out of proportion. You have imbeciles in here saying the whole series sucks because they watched only the first episode and decided it was horrible, and others recommending the garbage raise by wolves.
Raised by Wolves is much better than your gay space show with lesbian priests, polyamorous crew, endless girlboss', no budget, bad acting, hard (boring) sci-fi setting and killing a main character off due to nothingburger #metoo accusations.
The Expanse is only "good" relative to modern sci-fi shows.
I decided to leave read-only just to tell you that Raised by Wolvea sucks cow shit-covered dick and you should feel bad for even mentioning it at all.
Sorry it didn't have enough 2SLGBTQIA+ representation for you. Stick with the Expanse.
It's as woke as Expanse, moron. Both are shit, Raised by Wolves is just much more shitty.
Against all odds there are 0 gay characters, racial animosity, diverse recasting, modern American politics or anti-religious content in Raised by Wolves.
Unlike The Expanse it also had a high budget and good acting.
No one will take you seriously if you try to argue child actors are good actors
Better than Canadian TV actors feigning American accents.
Your reading comprehension is really bad
what are you on about? most agree that the final 2 seasons are the worst. show peaked for me in season 3. 5 and 6 dedicates way to much time on noami and her son/ex. they also make holden out to be a dumb dumb to elevate side character women and pocs. amos on earth is pretty kino though but then they kill off alex in post production because of some cringey texts he sent some comic con bawds.
I soldiered through 3, and permanently checked out.
I want my time back for the shitty season 2 and season 3.
S2 and 3 are great what are you talking about?
I lost it at season 5, Naomi is a terrible actress and likes to gain and lose her accent every other scene. Season 5 follows her excessively.
Haven't watched it yet because I still haven't finished the novels.
With my pace it will take another ten years until I can watch iut
I wanted to like it but it's very boring and safe for sci-fi.
Couple seasons then read the books
The first seasons are, Amazon ruined it.
it's mid
S1 - 4 are good and it's a satisfying place to end the series. S5 is shit, it's also when the pozzed content kicks into overdrive.
Raised by Wolves is a better show.
>SAVE YOURSELF
>SKIP ALL NAOMI SCENES
it's good until it turns into some relations bullshit drama with parents on one side and kids on the other and fricking yawn
Very good as long as the detective is on screen
hahahahaha no
hahahahaha yes
last season bombed
Generally they're pretty good with astronomical scale but this scene was deeply moronic. Could have fixed it by having him sleep and shower before the next moon or something.
True. I really liked when they 'zoom' onto ships that are really far away to show the scale and distance. That one is silly, but I get how it could be difficult to make it work for tv: showing what is many days of travel and in just a few minutes, planets so far apart they're just dots, and still be entertaining.
it's alright sci-fi slop, but Foundation is better
Never relax around belters.
That was just one of the so many fricked up things that make you think the belters dont deserve saving.
>nooooo, we are such oppressed minority, why does everyone hate us?????
Truly the Black folk of space.
Yeah belters are huge Black folk
belters are based as frick
How to did this goon know how to operate Martian golliath armor?
Im lit da buk, to kaka felota
it is if you skip every single scene with Naomi in it
I wish I knew how to edit, I’d do shot like that all the time. Naomi was one of the worst actresses I’ve seen in any show.
It's great, but the last 2 seasons are a bit rough to get through.
Season 5 and 6 are good and lead to the a kino part of the story with good scifi. No, they're not perfect. No show is.
That donager class held it's ground like a champ until it got backstabbed.
>and lead to the a kino part of the story
which we'll never see on screen, because amazon studios is headed by a massively moronic c**t
it would only work if some other channel like HBO acquired the rights
if you skip all the naomi parts it becomes ok
It's a close second for me to "For All Mankind".
it had potential but she show seemed cheesy. i only made it to the end of season 1.
I think there is somewhat consensus about 'stop after watching S3'
major drop in quality after that and the main stories are just a fricking bore
nah, just autismos mad about black people and that the story had aliens instead of being six seasons of the exact noir crime mystery they wanted
>the story and characters focused on completely changed
seems like a pretty legitimate reason to stop watching
Stupid take. The reason why it gets so fricking shit is because of very boring storylines centering around of the worst characters in the series becomes the most integral part
yes just skip all Naomi scenes
The casting for Naomi's kid in the final season was fricking perfect. Even made me check imdb to see whether the actors were related.
its still pretty good. story drags in the later seasons, but just skip all the bullshit fluff, i personally skipped all the earth scenes with Amos and the crazy girl. just did not care about that shit at all.
Every excuse from the "fanbase" in here sounds like massive cope
>suffer through these seasons until you get to a certain part
>skip this person's scenes
>stop before this season
>ignore ___
I don't see how these guys can even say they're fans of the show with all those caveats like hating a main character and skipping all their scenes. I liked pretty much everything except the stuff on the settler planet with the kid in the last season because it didn't feel connected to the rest. It could have been better, like all shows, but compared to most Sci-Fi shows on tv it was fantastic.
>I liked pretty much everything except the stuff on the settler planet with the kid in the last season because it didn't feel connected to the rest.
It was supposed to be a setup for the next big story arc, that's why it was disconnected
But it could still have felt more connected to the bigger story by having more familiar faces on the planet, instead of it being an entirely new cast of randoms you didn't give a shit about. It felt clumsy in its setup, to the point where I thought they were trying to do a stealth spin-off attempt, not setting up future plot points in the main show.
>I thought they were trying to do a stealth spin-off attempt
that's what I thought too, since it was already announced that season 6 is the end for this show
and honestly I think the production company still hopes someone will pick this up for a spin-off, since they own everything, syfy and amazon only bankrolled the production by buying the streaming rights afaik
what I mean by that is IF another streamer decided to bankroll a "Expanse: Laconia" show, they wouldn't have to buy the rights for an exorbitant amount, so it's actually baffling why nobody stepped forward yet
the expanse just doesnt have a big enough audience for it to be worth it. the fans of the books/show are hardcore fans of about as obsessed with it as star wars types, but there aren't many of them
real shame man, yeah
and it was never really promoted anywhere, just imagine if it was
the only piece of promotion I can recall was that fat frick GRRM calling it "GOT in space" (no wonder, his ghost writers wrote the expanse books)
seriously just imagine if the expanse had an actual marketing campaign behind it based around "GOT in space — GRRM said so", so many normies would've tuned in
scifi like this just isnt really popular with people. they just want star wars tier shit
I'd say that the problem would be that when GRRM says GoT in space he means believable politics in a fantastical setting, but to most people GoT just meant lots of breasts and ass, with exposition-dumps happening during sex scenes, and everyone being killable. If they watched the first season of The Expanse they'd just feel lied to because they were promised breasts and dragons and shocking deaths every season.
You still see people defending the later seasons of GoT where they'd long given up on having believable politics(like the sand snakes getting revenge for Elia by... killing their prince and some kids with a moronic kissing poison), pretending that only the last season was actually bad.
I actually thought it would be like GoT but space but the politics scenes did not feel all too important. It really did feel just like Star Wars in space since a majority of the focus is on the crew and their problems. It feels like politics, at least in the show, takes a backseat. No idea how the book is like.
With how much politics made it into the show I'd wager that the books are definitely like GoT(the books) in space, it's the only reason I've put the books on my to read list. If there was less you wouldn't have as much background faction stuff popping up all the time in the show.
theres actually more politics in the show than in the books. avasarala isn't a character until the second book and after that she only shows up occasionally to yell at people for being morons.
all the stuff with bobby on mars being involved with the black market and her working as a spy for avasarala is all made up stuff for the show. bobby is in the second book and then basically disappears from the story until the 5th book
I find this very surprising. I can't think of another show where the writers made up more political situations instead of cutting a bunch out to streamline the action.
they had to do more political stuff in the show because it would have felt too disconnected in the tv show and you wouldn't know the reasons for why things are happening. the book has a lot of internal monologue and you cant really show that on screen.
yeah, you're probably right
hell, if the Lawd dem Rangz had breasts and ass in it every episode, I reckon – cynical as it is – it would've been a success
It would 100% have captured that mouthbreather GoT audience if there were breasts and gore all over the place. They'd tell themselves that they were finally watching LoTR for ADULTS, not the sanitised kiddy version.
Videogame cinematic-tier dialog. Couldn't get past the first few episodes
Worth watching if you can find an edit that cuts out every scene that has Naomi it.
ahem
>mfw
Context?
Really you should just watch Feast, because the context does nothing and it's a hell of a ride. Monsters attack a bar and the random people in the bar have to band together to survive the night. They think that lady is dead because she was wounded in an attack and passed out. So they try to make a trap, hauling her body outside loaded with explosives so they can blow the monsters up when they come to attack her and eat her. Instead she wakes up and gets mouth-raped by the newly-born baby monster that's apparently horny instead of murderous. Also she's played by the director's wife.
h-hot
The genius behind Piranha 3DD certainly thought so.
>tfw your gf is bored so she dumps you to frick your buff brother
On season 5 right now. Do they're ships have gravity or not? Sometimes they have things floating and have to wear magnet boots, but then in the same ship they walk around barefoot and stuff
when the ships are under acceleration they have gravity. when the ships are not under acceleration they do not have gravity and its all zero g. acceleration=gravity depending on how fast you are accelerating
The ships are built like skyscrapers. When they are under thrust, it can be at 1G and they have 'gravity'. When the ships are under higher thrust, they have to strap into chairs and use drugs since it can be 7G+.
>it can be at 1G and they have 'gravity'.
the show doesn't go into this, but the ships are usually cruising at .3g acceleration because its the most efficient iirc. also belters dont like acceleration higher than this because they're weak lanklets that cant really handle it
Belters are whiny shits who can't handle anything
Whats the average cruising speed of .3 g and how long would a trip take between the belt and Mars at that speed?
look nig, we ain't astronomers, this is a tv show
constant .3G ACCELERATION mind you, not cruising speed, so in theory, you are going faster and faster every second
that's why they flip the ships around mid-journey and start to decelerate
theres no average for that, .3g acceleration means they're constantly accelerating at a .3g per second. per second i
just understand the concept i dont really know how to do the math. but i think from earth to mars at .3g is like no more than a week or 2?
Oooooh I didn't realize they were built sideways
Tell me, ship-knower, those cool tables they had with lights and plants growing inside them to make effective use of limited space... Were the plants meant to be food they picked periodically and used in the kitchen or was it for oxygen-production? The tables didn't seem to be as easy to harvest from as other grow racks, but plants in a table also wouldn't be as efficient at producing air as algae.
They had both. And there's a scene in Ganymede when the food runs out and people are starving, they start eating all the oxygen producing plants. The scientist is shaking his head saying that those plants won't nourish them and eating them will just help kill everyone faster.
the plants were mostly to clean the oxygen in the ship because they were running low on scrubbers or something and it would have taken too much time for them to find a dock somewhere and get new ones, so he just started doing stuff with plants
Ship not accelerating: no physical force to keep you pressed against the floor
Ship is accelerating: physical force presses you against the floor
You got to SEASON FIVE before grasping thrust gravity
I was watching under the assumption that the decks were horizontal like a modern navy ship, not vertical like a sky scraper. No bully
this homie so stupid he immune to gravity torture
>they're
it was good at first, quite good even, but it becomes clear its not going anywhere and falls apart
id say it is worth a watch
also i liked the bits with drummer and the old man, and amos and the asian guy. even the mutt martian chick warmed on me
I started it like two weeks ago
I disliked the Cop character at first and found the beginning a bit slow but by like the third or fourth episode i got hooked
currently at season 3
it gives me light mass effect vibes
its good for exactly 1.5 seasons then turns to unwatchable shit
I watched it just fine. Sounds like a You problem.
first 3 seasons are the best scifi since bsg. season 4 is kind of weak but watchable. season 5 is when it falls completely and becomes "the naomi". i couldn't finish s5.
the books are pretty enjoyable, i like the shorter chapters that bounce around between characters a lot more often.
The last few seasons sucked.
BELTA!
i liked her and the old dude. glad she survived. sad the old dude didnt.
Thats not eyeliner she's wearing, its a tattoo . Plus, she sleeps naked. A woman after my own heart . Too bad she likes fish
>Plus, she sleeps naked.
That just seems like a bad idea in low gravity...
why....?
I'll be honest, I'm tired and made the leap from naked to completely uncovered. I feel like you'd want to be strapped in for safety while sleeping, which would be helped with a sort of blanket tucking you in.
People would indeed strap themselves in before going to sleep on a spaceship, this is alluded to multiple times
They clearly show her sleeping naked with a woman, unstrapped. She gets out of bed and walks around barefoot. After having been educated about the shows physics thanks to this thread, we know that this was during acceleration when they were pursuing space bun laden and Ashburn
I remember the pastor woman strapping herself in before going to sleep on the alliance battlecruiser heading to the ring gate, so maybe it's just Belters are moronic and careless, dunno
>we know that this was during acceleration when they were pursuing space bun laden and Ashburn
Yeah but what if there's an emergency and they have to quickly de-accelerate or change course in some drastic way? That's what you'd want to be strapped in for when sleeping, since you might not wake up fast enough to secure yourself if the alarm rings. If you're just using your bed for fricking and relaxing you obviously don't need to strap in.
Space is huge and things are far apart. They generally have enough time to get people strapped in or secured in some way, at least a few minutes but usually longer. I was just reading one section where they are surprise attacked by ships they thought were friendly. The alarms sounded, and they didn't have enough time to get to their normal crash couches, so they strapped into some nearby ones.
The belters wife in S4 wakes up and unstraps herself too.
LOWDA as in my ammo is getting low from killing all da belters on my planet
Miller, Drummer and Ashford are the only good Belters in the whole show
her character was surprisingly likeable and the actress portrayed it well.
>Completely alters her character and turns her into a dyke by compositing her with a noticeably different character from the books
t. Amazon
The generals were pretty fun.
i love prax and amos friendship.
>i am that guy
me too
their friendship being so well done has to do a lot with how they show it, i think. half the scenes with them is just some dull convo about plants and then they work together in silence. it works so well by contrasting amos' almost lunacy sometimes, to how quiet and calm he can be. the expanse has so many well done details like this that they completely lost when amazon bought it. whoever was in charge for the first 3 seasons knew what they were doing
Watch 1-3 seasons. Stop after that.
The first arc was undoubtedly sci-fi kino even with the shitty acting from Holden and Naomi.
Can without a doubt rewatch the first 3 seasons. 4 is a slog but concludes the major arc of the first 3 seasons.
The latter seasons had it's moments but falls short. Most of the main protags had less interesting story points than the side characters from what I remember.
I WATCH IT FOR SHE
was gonna buy the telltale game just for her, still might.
i miss her...
I got it. It’s fun and feels like the series.
looks like kino
Keting ere pashang to ta showxa fo mi, to sabaka mali? Mi wanya to fo sasa mi finyish ere fosh pelésh ere imbobo xunyam mi ere da OPA, unte mi ta go fo walowda raids ere UN, unte mi decho seri xanya mang fosho. Mi sasa dewe fo du xite lik wa gorilla unte mi da bosmang sniper ere da OPA. To nating fo mi amash wang mo ting fo du xite. Mi gonya leta-go to da pashang kuku wit precision lik tumang vedi natim, pochuye da wowt mi showxa. To pensa to kang showxa dedawang fo mi ere da network? Pensa wamotim, pashangwala. Xitim, mi showxa fo secret spy network mi unte im ando trace IP to, deradzhang to mowsh kom sif gútegow fo da storm, koyo. Da storm deting decho da ting to du nem livit to. To pashang det, maliwala. Mi kang bi kowpelesh, kowltim, unte mi kang decho to ere seng xanya we, unte dedawang bera wit xante mi. Mi oso tenye kowl da OPA tungeting, unte mi gonya du im kowl da we fo decho to, to kakamali. Sili bera to ta kang sasa deting unholy retribution wowt semówt mali ta gonya leta-kom ere to, mebi to ta na showxa. Amash to na ta kang, to na ta du im, unte xitim to mowsh gif peye fo im, to nakangepensa pashangwala. Mi gonya kaka fury kowl ere to unte im gonya decho to. To pashang det, maliwala!
She said calmly
Until detective chapeau died
Xalte ere gova
He should have been given a bigger part of the show on par with throat cancer lady, to lend his kino powers that made Chernobyl and The Terror into hits.
He wanted to be, but he was getting booked out and his agency put priority on other projects. He talked about it in an interview.
What a shame. Although I suppose we might be blessed, with the timeline in question we might have lost out on him in Terror and Chernobyl if he was busy shooting The Expanse and the agency didn't want him doing more projects.
>Ok, we're coming up on a couple hour high-G burn.
>Monica, come over here and sit on my face so you can strap in.
monica might have been the hottest chick in the entire show. i cant think of anyone else.
I loved the blonde hag who was unfortunately a lesbo.
It's weird how few pics and memes there are of her.
Earth must come first
Would have been preferable to Naomi.
Belter technicals are my fav
underrated actor
Isn't that Jon Snow from game of thrones?
i like holden, the actor portrayed the book version well. holden is supposed to be pretty generic as to not out shine the rest of the main cast. the balance of the cast is pretty good until they make naomi the center of attention in s5 and completely ruin everything
Mister Hickey, stay away from teh aqua!
>and they think "mine"
Welcome to humanity.
canonically only inners act that way, kopeng
Would you a Martian?
hmm
Good lord yes
Was there anything redeemable and non-moronic about Marco Inaros' plan?
The first book established that Mars and the outer planets were dependent on Earth for biologicals like soil and stuff that simply couldn't reproduced effectively elsewhere.
Targeting Earth with rocks seems like an elaborate way to commit suicide as a species.
>outer planets
homie did you even read a book or watch the show? there are only 3 powers: earth, mars and the outer belt. there no "other planets", just a few spaces stations, mining facilities etc
otherwise i agree, marco was a fricking moron and not even a good bad guy
homie what do you think OPA stands for?
get your moronic ass out of here.
there isn't a single planet other than mars colonized in the books or show. opa refers only to being in the outer planetary system, not that they've colonized pluto or something.
you're being pedantic for no reason, "outer planets" is a phrase used in the books for anything past Mars (Ceres the dwarf planet, the Jovian system, the Saturn system, other rocks and stations)
That's why it's called the OUTER PLANETS Alliance
>stop worrying about the definition
>heres what opa actually means
kek
>doesn't know what OPA stands for
2/10, try again lmao
>i'm wrong but i'm going to double down
go cry elsewhere.
lol you already lost to him
I think he’s embarrassed he mixed up “Outer Planets” with “other planets”
>there no "other planets"
And then tried to play it off with shitposting kek
list those "outer planets". just list them
Jupiter
Saturn
Neptune
Uranus
Try harder next time homosexual
i always wondered why they chose Outer Planets
Earth and Mars colonized the asteroid Belt. The Belters in turn colonized the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, which is why the OPA is called the Outer Planets Alliance rather than the Asteroid Belt Alliance or something.
The Belters felt that they were under the boot of Earth and Mars and formed the OPA as a loose affiliation of factions. Fred Johnson is the legitimate face of the OPA. Anderson Dawes runs the powerful faction on Ceres. But there are hundreds of factions.
So “Belter” is a bit of a misnomer. A better description would be “Spacer”. The Belters identify as a group of people adapted to living in space, whether that is the Belt, Jovian moons, moons of Saturn, etc. Hence why they separate the Inner Planets - Earth and Mars - from the Outer Planets and Belt
A major reason why the Belters have not divided into several distinct cultural entities is due to their physiology: gravity on the Jovian moons is 0.1-0.15g or so. The max gravity of a spin station is 0.3g (so less than Mars), and the poorest Belters live near the center of spin in an average of 0.1g, or even on the float in rock hoppers or non-spun stations like Pallas.
So, the thing that unifies Belters is not their physical location - it’s their physiology. They feel that all of these outer system colonies are theirs because they aren’t nearly as capable of living down a substantial gravity well on a terrestrial world. They are adapted to space. As is said several times in the show, they are “born of the void”, and the “place they go is the place they belong”. So that is slightly different than a typical colonization story, in that the colonists aren’t identifying with where they live nearly as much as how they live. They aren’t a true race in the historical sense, but they might as well be due to their physiological/cultural differences - the OPA is as much of a racial/cultural rallying organization for the Belters as it is a political one
lmao moron
Outer Planets Alliance, anon. You lost.
which planets?
The Outer ones I already listed 🙂
Yeah I know, but it's funny to watch the damage control
so, you can't list shit because you know mars is the only other power thats planet-wide. thanks for proving my point, maybe other people will read the books too at some point.
those are gas giants anon, there is no presence on such a thing. at most there is a mining colony or similar thing
lol your cope is real haha
read the books and take it up with the author
>zero argument
i accept your concession.
>doubling down on coping
Lmao you really are upset you called them the “other planets”
you’d get it if you read the books. Reply to this post if you agree and concede.
which part of the books refers to any planetary power aside from earth and mars?
Read them and find out.
You’ll see why the name is Outer Planets Alliance.
i've read them all already which is why i can call your bullshit. you're not only wrong, but you have zero argument
You never read them, that’s why you asked about “other planets” lol.
They’re called the OPA. Outer Planets is a term they use. Cope.
the opa are belters living out in the belt on space stations built on moons or big asteroids like ceres and eros. humans cant live on any planets other than earth and mars because they are either gas giants or too close to the sun. pluto is not a planet
>pluto is not a planet
>there isn't a single planet other than mars colonized in the books
What is laconia then?
Or Jupiter or Saturn?
But he had control of the ring station at that point didn't he? Earth was no longer particularly relevant.
It was if you wanted soil or seeds or plants or animals or medicine or other pharmaceuticals like book 1 established Mars and the Belt depended on Earth for
In book 1 yea, but after they opened the rings they had access to tons of habitable planets with all kinds of resources
none of them are terrestrial or adapted to human physiology
book 4 literally explains that they're having to import soil, seed and feed, and other biologicals from Earth to make life on the new worlds tenable
I think the idea would be that they would have power over Earth then and could dictate terms essentially forcing Earth to be their b***hes as revenge. Plus they could always try and establish supply lines to some of the planets in the new systems. And he thought Laconia would still be their friends and was pretty upset when they suddenly cut ties and said anyone that comes into their ring dies.
>can broadcast to the entire solar system
>sends a message accusing mars of attacking some ship
>this has the potential to start a war
>communication systems receive the message and play it back to everyone
it's really that simple
belters have no muscle, they are lanky skinny gumby looking morons
wrong
Why did Cinemaphile latch on to Mars as the best faction?
if the show went on to cover the last 3 books Cinemaphile would have had wet dreams about laconia
If I liked the first 3-4 seasons, bought stopped at five would I still like the books?
yes because the books are 10x better than the show. the show made some improvements, like drummer is better in the show, ashford is better in the show, amos is a more complex character in the show. but overall the books do everything else better. just read them because we'll never see the last 3 books in tv.
naomi is much better in the books too. naomi isnt some stronk meme in the books, shes more like an IT geek book worm than anything else. holdens basically the same in the books but you dont have to deal with steven straits odd acting. steven grew on me after a while and i like him but hes not a very good actor
Well, Belters as a whole spend all the time whining, seething, being criminals and acting like terrorists. You're more likely to get robbed/killed by Belters if you go onto their stations. The 'good ones' are cool but come off as a different faction altogether. The population of Earth is shit and no one wants to go there. It's super overcrowded and everyone's on basic. The rulers of Earth just seem to scheme to ruin others, shit on everyone else in the system and find ways to take everything. Martians are advanced, hard working, professional, cooperative towards huge goals that they may never see fulfilled in their lifetimes but benefit the following generations greatly. It makes sense why the Martians would be liked most.
I don't understand how anyone can watch this if they read the books. The casting alone destroys it let alone the shit budget and awful actors.
i watched the show first and read the books after, so i can look over the shows flaws. amos is cast well, steven as holden fits too but hes just not a good actor, naomi casting is awful. cas as alex is probably the best because it actually improved alex from the books, hes like an overweight balding indian guy in the books lol.
It's good enough, has plenty of good casting, and they tried pretty hard. And it's FAR better than every other scifi show on now or in the past many years. I'm not some autist that demands ultra perfection from shows. They're just fun entertainment and stories and I like scifi battles.
that webbum is bad and you should feel bad
make a better one then, jerk
what hooked me immediately with the show was the grandiosity and presentation of it. it reminds me a lot of mass effect, theres a certain type of grandiosity to mass effect that i have never seen a scifi series capture until i watched the expanse. im a sucker for that type of shit i guess but not many games, books, or shows capture it very well. lawrence of arabia has it too
Same. At first, I really liked the Miller storyline and the near future Sol system aspect of it. But eventually came around to enjoying them finding the alien tech, how it changes humanity and how the changes propagate out throughout the various factions. Plus how it isn't as basic as "find alien tech, use it" but instead is revealed to have sinister implications and consequences.
i always see people complaining about the alien magic stuff in these threads and its obvious they dont understand the point of it. yes it does wild alien shit, but the point of it is to explore what humans would do with something that is basically a cheat code for being gods of the universe. the power hungry psychos of the world would absolutely do everything that is in the story and even more, and probably in worse ways too. the only flaw in the story that i can think of is that it makes power hungry people too competent
in the books there is actually a bunch of side chapters about ashford and stuff and how shit is before the events of the show. theres a scene in the show when he describes 'running silent' beneath an admirals other craft or so and stuff like that, they actually explore that in some of the sub-books.
Only if you like israelite garbage.
na du vedi mi, tumang
belters cant lift up rocks theyre too weak
dont post my belterfu scumbag
If she was here right now, she'd spit in your face. You're everything she despised.
An anon who shitposts on his own kind. Welwala...
How can anyone not know what OPA stands for?
Monica is alright
I’d shit where she eats, if you catch my drift
I liked the belter administrator of Ceres in the last season just because she felt right for the part - a belter sure, but a hardworking bureaucrat first.
I've just watched the first 2 episodes and can already tell that every single plot line will devolve into "muh freedom for the belt" and the "mystery" of the girl the detective is looking for will fall flat. She's already a 22 year old freedom fighter who's sexually liberated and can easily take down full grown men and she's had 2 minutes of screen time. The acting was, for the most part, horrendous and it's a shame because those ice miners being stranded in space could have made some good tv if it wasn't for their performances.
>the "mystery" of the girl the detective is looking for will fall flat
yeah
She, along with Holden is just responsible for the entire events of the books and is central to the plot
your intuition is shit
>the mystery girl from the mysterious prologue scene who mysteriously abandonded her rich, powerful family for some myesterious reason is responsible for the events of the show
No shit, I already knew that from the first scene. I'm saying I already know it's going to fall flat and the show will rely completely onto its shallow politics.
wow, you're very smart and impressive. you're obviously too good for this show and should head on over to the nearest star wars thread instead.
Not him, but I’ve watched the first four seasons and disagree with that assumption. If you feel different, then don’t watch it, I could give a frick less.
it takes about 5 eps to get really good, thats when they steal the roci/tachi. theres a whole wonderful scene
I wanted more with the dead kid resurrection story in S6 is that in the books?
yeah both kids end getting resurrected by the stray dogs/repair drones
it becomes the basis for Duarte's immortality treatment
amos gets killed and resurrected later as well
>amos gets killed and resurrected later as well
does he become evil or nah
>that guy
>caring about moral alignments
lol
They're in books 7, 8, & 9.
I dropped it towards the end of season 2 I think. It has so many women and nogs it's unreal.
It's also boring as shit.
You have brainrot and ADHD, zoomie homosexual.
Sorry bro but the story is shit and I can't take 5 foot tall latina midgets seriously as soldiers.
i bet youre the common Black personhomosexual complaining about the martions meanwhile bobby;s actress is actually simoen and shit.
the story doesn't have 5ft latinas, but youre so fricking dumb you wont care if i explain why.
I have no clue what you're talking about. Like I said, I dropped it relatively early. Everyone I talked to said that the show gets even worse afterwards so I don't regret it.
Imagine traveling to Saturn and living on a station out there for a while
Something comfy about gas giants. Especially the ringed ones
I often have dreams and daydreams of being a lone technician or engineer on some space station maintaining some shit like a jump gate or just for scientific observation, a long way from Earth. Silly stuff, but the imagery of a station or ship with the backdrop of a gas giant or large astronomical object in the background is peak comfy to me.
Ever played Alien Isolation? Sevastopol station is like that. Very comfy sections just watching the clouds swirl on the planet below or space walking on the dark exterior and the huge planet off in the distance. When not getting attacked by the scary alien, of course.
Alas, it's in my infinitely growing backlog. Might have to move it to the top of the list now that you mention it.
Alien Isolation is the best Alien thing to come out in decades
Isolation needs a miniseries of its own.
It's part of the post-normie homosexualized sci-fi canon.
Watch a real sci-fi show for real men, like Farscape.
lol gay as frick
0 gay characters. Cope.
https://nerdist.com/article/farscape-queerness-identity/
>Granted, Farscape is hardly the fabulous one hundred percent gay fantasia its reputation often implies. It was weird within the comparative standards of ‘90s – early ’00s sci-fi, so we still didn’t have any canonically outright LGBTQ+ characters, with a few exceptions. Season one’s “The Flax” revealed that a male-passing alien guest character was actually a woman (though that gag teeters on the transphobic).
A whole article about nothing in other words.
Murtry did nothing wrong.
Cinemaphile: The Character
If you like 360 noscope montages, then yes.
I wanna sex Avasarala.
Peak gilf material.
you just love her voice
It's pretty good. The book series is great, I enjoyed reading all of them. It's a shame the show ended where it did because shit gets crazy in the last few books.
I really liked it up to and including S4. S5 was mostly a boring slog and 6 feels weirdly paced, probably due to being so short.
Considering reading the books, does the story get any better post-show?
just skip/mute every naomi scene in the later seasons. you are welcome
Garbage from beginning to end. Mystery box bullshit. Not true sci fi.
Pure kino from beginning to end. Only plebs get filtered.
Belters are the master race.
yes!
fug yeah
As a modern scifi show, yes, but that's a very low bar these days. Of course it's pretty shite compared to the original books and it gets progressively more shite as the script departs from the source material as seasons progress.
The actors are a bunch of cardboard cutouts who display none of the emotions of the original characters. Avasarala was probably most true to the original.
The quality drops steadily from season two onwards and season five is just a prolonged wet fart in a series form. Season six showed some promise but never got anywhere because of budget cuts.
>filtered
Yes, the first three seasons. Don't bother with the rest.