Not even close. Raid 2 is shit as a movie and a story. All it has is some extremely good fight scenes. Its story makes absolutely no sense at any point and is one of the worst stories ever written.
Raid 1 is miles better than Raid 2 purely because it has an actual story that makes sense.
It never was. The first Raid is a better action film by miles. Various american made action films made in the years since, while clearly influenced by them, have easily topped raid 2, like John Wick 2 and probably 4 and Extraction.
The Raid 2 is bloated, overlong, and the action is overly, unnecessarily brutally gross and violent, something that wasn't an issue at all in the first movie, which is tighter, better paced, and despite a much shorter length has a much better plot and emotional core with the relationship between the two brothers as the centerpiece of the film.
I agree with this, the second movie is a slog that wants to be Internal Affairs/The Departed. Should have done a much simpler setup, like the cop gets railroaded by corrupt higher ups and put into holding on bs criminal charges, and an assassination attempt happens on him but he wins, so the big crime lord or whatever sets siege to the entire police building that he's being held in and he and the few cops left have to survive an onslaught. An indonesian Assault on precinct 13. Not the 3 hour wannabe shit we got instead.
I agree. The 1st makes sense, the cops start with guns and had to switch to knives and punching because they got ambushed and ran out of bullets. In Raid 2 Rama goes undercover with one of the most powerful gangs in Jakarta and instead of encountering gangsters and assassins with guns he runs into le wacky baseball bat man and co.
Agree, even though I do like Raid 2. The final knife dual fight in 2 was good but nothing actually tops the Mad Dog fight. Was extremely cathartic when he finally died.
raid 1 is kino of the highest order. raid 2 has too many useless dialogues and exposition, too few fights, protag's brother from the first movie dies in first seconds of the second movie. in other words it's shit
Black person if there's anything the raid 2 is lacking it sure as hell isn't fights >opening prison bathroom fight >courtyard fight >porno studio fight >prakoso gets his street fight where he takes down a mark, the club fight, and a last stand against the assassin >bat guy/hammer girl intro fight >car ambush fight >car chase >warehouse fight >bat guy and hammer girl miniboss >clusterfrick final fight
I mean come on now
Never seen it
All me
I liked the one where he goes to rescue an elephant
Ong Bak
(the elephant was named Ong)
>Ong Bak
more like Limb Snap
Not the same guy.
Well the only thing that gives it remotely any competition is the first Raid movie
Is it good?
you telling me you saw raid 2 before raid 1?
Never seen it
Not even close. Raid 2 is shit as a movie and a story. All it has is some extremely good fight scenes. Its story makes absolutely no sense at any point and is one of the worst stories ever written.
Raid 1 is miles better than Raid 2 purely because it has an actual story that makes sense.
t. haven't seen any HK kinos
based SLP II chad
It ties with „time to hunt“
It never was. The first Raid is a better action film by miles. Various american made action films made in the years since, while clearly influenced by them, have easily topped raid 2, like John Wick 2 and probably 4 and Extraction.
The Raid 2 is bloated, overlong, and the action is overly, unnecessarily brutally gross and violent, something that wasn't an issue at all in the first movie, which is tighter, better paced, and despite a much shorter length has a much better plot and emotional core with the relationship between the two brothers as the centerpiece of the film.
I agree with this, the second movie is a slog that wants to be Internal Affairs/The Departed. Should have done a much simpler setup, like the cop gets railroaded by corrupt higher ups and put into holding on bs criminal charges, and an assassination attempt happens on him but he wins, so the big crime lord or whatever sets siege to the entire police building that he's being held in and he and the few cops left have to survive an onslaught. An indonesian Assault on precinct 13. Not the 3 hour wannabe shit we got instead.
I agree. The 1st makes sense, the cops start with guns and had to switch to knives and punching because they got ambushed and ran out of bullets. In Raid 2 Rama goes undercover with one of the most powerful gangs in Jakarta and instead of encountering gangsters and assassins with guns he runs into le wacky baseball bat man and co.
Agree, even though I do like Raid 2. The final knife dual fight in 2 was good but nothing actually tops the Mad Dog fight. Was extremely cathartic when he finally died.
2nd best after Tenet. Its fighting sequences are brilliant, particularly the hallway scene
>Tenet
Please leave that planet
>Zoo
i trust the lions
Why is this movie impossible to find in its original language? Just fricking English dubs everywhere. Never was an issue with the first one
raid 1 is kino of the highest order. raid 2 has too many useless dialogues and exposition, too few fights, protag's brother from the first movie dies in first seconds of the second movie. in other words it's shit
Black person if there's anything the raid 2 is lacking it sure as hell isn't fights
>opening prison bathroom fight
>courtyard fight
>porno studio fight
>prakoso gets his street fight where he takes down a mark, the club fight, and a last stand against the assassin
>bat guy/hammer girl intro fight
>car ambush fight
>car chase
>warehouse fight
>bat guy and hammer girl miniboss
>clusterfrick final fight
I mean come on now
they aren't memorable at all except for the bat guy and the girl. the final fight is a complete joke, I don't even remember who was he fighting
also the poster is dishonest, he wears that cool uniform for only like 10 minutes at the end, in other times he's wearing usual normie tshirts
Raid is OK, Dredd did it better.
Raid 2 is incredible.
First one shits all over it, don't try to make an action blockbuster in Indinesia with some goofy skinny homosexual as the lead
Well I mean if the Zoo gives it 5 star it must be good
lolno
Any more violent/gory action kino like The Raid 1 and 2, The Night Comes for Us, Project Wolf Hunting, Upgrade, etc.?
headshot
Tom yum goong
SPL 2
Hard Boiled
The Killer
The Longest Nite
Limbo
The Mission
Shadow
Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind
A Moment of Romance
Motorway
Ong Bak and The Protector mog the shit out of both raid movies
You dare insult Supercop?
Police story is better.
yes, after t2 and Die Hard
Why no part 3?
>Is it still the best action film?
It never was.
Yes, though an argument could be made that the first one is better as it's more focused.
What's the appeal? It's just endless repetitive choreographed fighting scenes that you know the main character will come out on top in
>Mfw dip shits complain about action set pieces in an action movie.
Do you cry abouts jokes in comedies too?
Kissing in romance movies?
First was great and unique, second was generic shit