Snyder doesn't care about box office, his only concern is making art to be discussed for generations. He is what all directors should aspire to be like.
the second best capeshit trilogy of all time, after the Raimi trilogy. people blame the failure of the DCEU almost entirely on Snyder, despite his films being the best as well as the highest grossing. as soon as the execs tried to turn it into an MCU copy it flopped
no because DC has been a laughing stock since before zoomers were born
between the superman curse, the incredibly homosexualy schumacher films, that pedophile bryan singer, green lantern, and now the Snyder abortions...it's just been one kek after another
>the only redeeming thing DC gave us was Nolan
Not even, Batman Begins had some potential but after that the rest of the trilogy is incredibly overrated. On the surface they might seem like great movies but once you start to actually analyze character motivations, plot point, the cinematography, and the acting you'll start to see how flawed and stupid they are. The movies basically got carried hard by Heath Ledger dying and Bane being a meme obfuscating all the glaring flaws.
Snyder doesn't care about box office, his only concern is making art to be discussed for generations. He is what all directors should aspire to be like.
Oh yeah we'll be talking about how shit Batman v Superman was for a while if that's what you mean
yeah that is my pick as well
tarnishing a respected legacy versus merely adding another installment to a mildly entertaining circus of mostly buffoonery
Even in the comics though reboots are a giving up, a sign of failure, DC's had one or two that the event itself was decent, but they'd just go back to making the same dumb kind of mistakes, or fricking it up in a new way
Their recent series of animated movies are rebooting again and people generally are disliking the reboot attempt.
The truth is that DC died in 2011, with the whole New 52 reboot. The last thing of any worth was the DCEU that also died recently, or maybe died in 2016 if we were to be honest.
No. The Snyder movies are good, Aquaman and The Flash are good as well. As far as the popular comic characters go, they received favorable treatment. That being said, management wise it's a huge disaster but we're going to see way worse in the future.
Had Snyder been allowed to pull off his 5 movies arc it would've stood with the greats but now it will only be re-evalutated at some point concluding there was a very strong bias against the DC brand and even more so against Snyder (whose approach was a more timeless one).
It's not that it's not quippy it's that it shoehorns in way too much. Doomsday is like some movie 3-5 of the interconnected film universe thing. Tossing it in there like 10 minutes after the trinity fricking meet, in the second superman film even, just robs it of any weight. Lel he didn't even get to be a reporter. Just comepletely unnecessary. And it makes it so the JL movie HAS to deal with the resurrection, when it should have just skipped to Darkseid and beat Marvel by making Thanos look like a ripoff.
This is really the problem. Killing Superman was the biggest mistake of the franchise along with not making a standalone Ben Affleck Batman movie, who was by far the most popular character.
Theatrical cut being incomprehensible to plebs + I'd bet there was bribery going on with critical reception. Also, cynicism poisoned popular culture (remember all those depressed midwits on YouTube talking uppity), when Snyder tried to do something earnest.
For me, the most jarring part of that movie is how Snyder lifts the entire title fight out of Miller's Dark Knight Returns, but doesn't make any adjustments to account for how his characters had just met each other, while in DKR they had decades of history between them. That's how it ended up with nutty shit like >WHY DID YOU SAY MARTHA
Considering it spawned 3 of the greatest superhero movies ever made, it wasn't a total disaster.
>Greatest
You mean the three that got shat on so hard it tanked a potential billion dollar franchise?
you mean the 2 films that spawned one of the greatest movements in cinematic history to be released??? Cope
Snyder doesn't care about box office, his only concern is making art to be discussed for generations. He is what all directors should aspire to be like.
the second best capeshit trilogy of all time, after the Raimi trilogy. people blame the failure of the DCEU almost entirely on Snyder, despite his films being the best as well as the highest grossing. as soon as the execs tried to turn it into an MCU copy it flopped
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hudson hawk, water world and howard the duck are my favorite bombs
I'm partial to Battlefield Earth myself
no because DC has been a laughing stock since before zoomers were born
between the superman curse, the incredibly homosexualy schumacher films, that pedophile bryan singer, green lantern, and now the Snyder abortions...it's just been one kek after another
the only redeeming thing DC gave us was Nolan
>the only redeeming thing DC gave us was Nolan
Not even, Batman Begins had some potential but after that the rest of the trilogy is incredibly overrated. On the surface they might seem like great movies but once you start to actually analyze character motivations, plot point, the cinematography, and the acting you'll start to see how flawed and stupid they are. The movies basically got carried hard by Heath Ledger dying and Bane being a meme obfuscating all the glaring flaws.
The Joker stuff in TDK is great, does the character perfect justice, the Harvey and Rachel stuff is all forced
heavens gate killed a studio
Warner is on the verge of bankruptcy
Oh yeah we'll be talking about how shit Batman v Superman was for a while if that's what you mean
Reminder.
This is very outdated, at least 3 more movies have flopped since this was made
Almost. Hold my invisible cane
Not even close.
Not quite but definitely close
yeah that is my pick as well
tarnishing a respected legacy versus merely adding another installment to a mildly entertaining circus of mostly buffoonery
Yeah. Important distinction here is that Star Wars movies have one continuity and capeshit gets rebooted all the time.
Even in the comics though reboots are a giving up, a sign of failure, DC's had one or two that the event itself was decent, but they'd just go back to making the same dumb kind of mistakes, or fricking it up in a new way
Their recent series of animated movies are rebooting again and people generally are disliking the reboot attempt.
The truth is that DC died in 2011, with the whole New 52 reboot. The last thing of any worth was the DCEU that also died recently, or maybe died in 2016 if we were to be honest.
And that Warner already had the rights to DC for decades. Disney had just purchased Shart Wars for a gorillion dollars and immediately tanked it
No. The Snyder movies are good, Aquaman and The Flash are good as well. As far as the popular comic characters go, they received favorable treatment. That being said, management wise it's a huge disaster but we're going to see way worse in the future.
No, Aquaman and first WW are good.
It was supposed to be kino but plebbitors cried about BvS not being like Deadpool
Had Snyder been allowed to pull off his 5 movies arc it would've stood with the greats but now it will only be re-evalutated at some point concluding there was a very strong bias against the DC brand and even more so against Snyder (whose approach was a more timeless one).
It's not that it's not quippy it's that it shoehorns in way too much. Doomsday is like some movie 3-5 of the interconnected film universe thing. Tossing it in there like 10 minutes after the trinity fricking meet, in the second superman film even, just robs it of any weight. Lel he didn't even get to be a reporter. Just comepletely unnecessary. And it makes it so the JL movie HAS to deal with the resurrection, when it should have just skipped to Darkseid and beat Marvel by making Thanos look like a ripoff.
This is really the problem. Killing Superman was the biggest mistake of the franchise along with not making a standalone Ben Affleck Batman movie, who was by far the most popular character.
And they made Doomsday just some lex Luthor experiment, instead of the thing that's spent the last billion years punching planets into extinction
Because Doomsday was originally supposed to be Bizarro, but WB didn't want to call the character something goofy like Bizarro.
How did Batman vs Superman not make a billion dollars
Everyone watched the "who's Martha" scene and told their friends and family to not watch the movie.
Theatrical cut being incomprehensible to plebs + I'd bet there was bribery going on with critical reception. Also, cynicism poisoned popular culture (remember all those depressed midwits on YouTube talking uppity), when Snyder tried to do something earnest.
For me, the most jarring part of that movie is how Snyder lifts the entire title fight out of Miller's Dark Knight Returns, but doesn't make any adjustments to account for how his characters had just met each other, while in DKR they had decades of history between them. That's how it ended up with nutty shit like
>WHY DID YOU SAY MARTHA
Unironic bot posts. No substance, just regurgitated bullshit talking points.
Snydergays are subhuman. Frick off and let the adults talk about why your failed movie series failed.
>subhuman
If you stood next to me and let a third person untainted by political correctness comment, that's how they'd describe you.
absolute greatest film cinema history