Is it truly the best Gundam fight in the franchise?
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Is it truly the best Gundam fight in the franchise?
Is it truly the best Gundam fight in the franchise?
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It's okay
No, it was fricking stupid. Why did having a panic attack and fearing death give Shiro a last second battle shounen power-up so he could surprise Norris who was literally on guard and ready for everything up until that point? Feels stupid. Hesitating and letting your emotions get the best of you shouldn't be depicted as a good thing.
It's a Japanese thing. You hold everything in and then unleash everything in a violent flurry when.you need to.
Yes it is. You literally see him hesitate in his wienerpit and let the fear of death take over, then he starts wailing like a moron and it's presented as the edge he needed to best a calm and collected soldier.
I'm pretty sure Shiro saying he wanted to marry Aina made the Gouf pilot (i forget his name) decide to let himself die to accomplish his mission.
Sure, except for the part where he's not wailing and that it isn't 'presented as the edge he needed to best a calm and collected soldier', since Norris blocks the arm perfectly. Shiro lands a single hit when he catches him off guard mentioning marrying Aina, which lasts a moment and does not win him the fight.
Norris decides that earlier, which is why he fired off that red flare, and frankly he probably had it in mind from the moment he decided to deploy again. His conversation with Aina in the hangar certainly implies it.
>You literally see him hesitate in his wienerpit and let the fear of death take over
no you literally see him try to hotwire his gundam that the gouf short-circuited while he hypes himself up because he literally has no way to defend himself in the moment
fricking ingrate
That isn't what happened at all.
If this was your take away of the fight then you definitely owe yourself a rewatch. There are a lot of little details that really characterize Norris's fighting style.
Probably the most telling moment that foreshadows the ending of the fight is the moment before the supposed anime protagonist power up: Norris fires his extendable cable/heat rod at Shiro. Shiro dodges the whip and begins to pull his hand off- but then they show the cable grabbing Norris's sword; Shiro was never the intended target of Norris. That each combatant had different goals and different methods of getting there; while almost ultimately wanting the same thing is what makes the fight interesting. This isn't Gohan vs Cell or anything.
You can see that the only time Norris is caught off guard is when Shiro is screaming how he loves the woman Norris is supposed to protect through the intercom. Its a very brief detail but you see him block the arm flail with ease- and then only when Shiro yells this one piece of information do you see Norris lower his guard for a moment.
And its not a super secret Unicorn gundam weapon, its not the Anti Zeon-Anti Ace super software that only Shiro's UNDERSTANDING can operate; and its not a spinal implant that 1:1 coordinates the Ez8's movements with your intentions: he just rips off his own arm in sheer desperation and then b***h slaps Norris with it.
Its not even the move that wins the fight; its just a single disorientating slap that Norris ultimately recovers from shortly after.
At the end Norris doesn't even technically *lose* the fight; he accomplishes the removal of the Federation anti-air and manages to preserve the life of Aina's boyfriend at the same time. His death is something that he chose as a tool to "win"
>its not a super secret Unicorn gundam weapon, its not the Anti Zeon-Anti Ace super software that only Shiro's UNDERSTANDING can operate; and its not a spinal implant that 1:1 coordinates the Ez8's movements with your intentions
Well maybe he should've had one and then he wouldn't have to rely on the dude throwing
You must be the guy with the youtube video.
I havent watched 08th ms team in a long ass time. Did he really dodge 2 fricking shots at nearly point blank range?
Yes. That's not really itself that ridiculous - it's not calibrated for small targets and he's close enough for relatively short movements to get out of its firing line. The pressure should've at least knocked him flying, though.
After playing GBO2 this scene seems a bit more reasonable.
>After playing GBO2
My condolences, fellow victim
Only thing I've lost to that game is time because the servers don't work, but I've avoided the gacha trap
No but it's a very sick Gouf.
Probably yes. But if not, it's the Kshatriya vs Stark Jegan fight in Unicorn.
They didnt need to go that hard with that fight
It was pretty rad. Only real problem I have is Karen missing that first shot like a goober.
>super special Gouf doing all that with that heavy equipment
cool but a bit ridiculous especially the final kill, like of course the target is watching the fight waiting to do anything but blast the sucker
getting done in by his target would've made it rad
>shirou beat him originally in the first fight while norris ran with his tail inbetween his legs
>now he suddenly outskilled him
>everyone gets storm trooper level aiming
>shirou misses everyshot at mid and close range
The writer switch might as well make it a different character.
no... F91, 0080, and CCA got the best fight scenes. I like clean high energy quick fight. anyway, just my shit taste.
Realism is for children
It's one of the worst and you should have a nice day.
>Oldtypes piloting OYW MS can move around like they are using the fricking Mobile Trace system just because
It's a really cool fight at first glance, but gets less cool the more you look closer and nitpick the details. Which is a lesson to not actually do that, because in that case all you've done is cuck yourself out of a really cool fight.
I didn't need to look close to think the oil blood spray and the Gouf having Spider-man tier maneuverability seemed kind of over-the-top and silly for what is often pushed as the gritty, down to earth war drama Gundam.
>what is often pushed as the gritty, down to earth war drama Gundam.
But that's really not what 08th MS is going for. It's the conclusion people draw just from watching the OP, and then selectively ignoring large chunks of the series proper
calling gundam a purely gritty down to earth war drama was always a mistake when the 79 anime recycled animation leading to scenes like the gundam vaulting off of nothing in space. It was always presented as slightly fantastical action on a more-grounded supply/battle damage framework. This is partially why I prefer the TV anime to the movies, and I think 08MS's presentation was the logical endpoint of that approach.
Honestly, every time someone has a sperg thread about this fight, it makes me watch it and appreciate it more.
It's a well-done fight with the right amount of real-life heft to send it over the edge. It's earned its spot at being considered the best.
No. Next.
i don't give a shit about this fight and 08ms is an abortion only liked by morons and people who haven't even watched it, but all of the complaints people make about this fight specifically are shit that applies to a good 90% of fights in the gundam franchise.
>thing bad
female post
>thing female
8th ms has the most realistic suit portrayal and that makes it the best
>8th ms has the most realistic suit portrayal
glad we agree
I mean, if it's the only mecha you've ever seen then sure.
ive seen msg, zeta, zz, 0080, 0083, 8thms, thunderbolt, votoms, geyass, ttgl, evangelion, obsolete
off the top of my head.
8th ms is my favorite ground combat look.
Then you must just be a fricking idiot.
0083 and 0080 had way better ground fights what are you smoking dude
they dont portray grunts fighting on the ground in the mud
thats the gundam that i want
not snowflakes, psycummus and newtypes
shame its also pretty moronic and the coolest moments can be boiled down to gifs
>they dont portray grunts fighting on the ground in the mud
08th MS Team doesn't do this either. Did you by chance only watch the opening and stop there?
honestly its been a while. but its the feeling i remember
as well as absolutely on point wienerpit shots that i will love forever.
do not care for "panoramic wienerpits". dont want none of that shit.
Yeah I don't hate panoramic wienerpits but OYW wienerpits are way more comfy I wish they kept them.
Only reason Gundam used panoramic wienerpits was it became a standard across the industry with shows like Dunbine and L-Gaim doing it first.
panoramic wienerpits make sense for space, but they really dont look as cool as good old screens and panels.
i really liked that moment in ZZ when they put a zakus head on the zeta and the viewport is all tiny and everything else is just black
Same
The mobile suits flew around too much for my tastes but it was still really good. The Albion also traveled the planet too much to develop the ground conbat setting. 08th felt like every inch of soil was fought for. 0083 would frick off to their whitesu baseu and appear on th3 other side of the planet two episodes later.
>08th felt like every inch of soil was fought for.
this so much.
i want an actual frontline and a war, not le epic snowflake special ops
Most people who watched it liked it. Only outcasts like you didn't like it. It was very popular with burgers when it aired and went into rerun on toonami. An 08th MS team thread on /k/ will have more active posters than any thread here in the oldweeb containment board.
>It was very popular with burgers
Not exactly a glowing review
>An 08th MS team thread on /k/
Who cares what federal agents think?
It's all 08th MS has for show.
Norris is actually a sort of Newtype with the ability to make everyone in a 1 mile radius around him moronic
That was my issue, the Guntanks didn't reposition and consolidate into a more defensible position and the whole squad was doing some real dumb rookie shit and losing their composure way too easily.
Poorly thought-out choreography but good animation and execution
Impulse vs Freedom was much better. Better choreographed, better music, better looking MS's, higher stakes & still lives rent free in /m/'s mind.
It is the Gundam fight.
To little good preluding for a culmination this accented, weak
Should I watch the remastered version of Destiny for the fights?
>have time to bring sword and shield into a whole new positon
>can't ascend even a little higher so it hits elsewhere
it has its own funky business
really any movement to make it harder to hit the body
it's been too long for me to remember if the guns had ammo in them
Io vs Daryl
No, not even the best in its own show.
for me, it's this one.
Honestly a much cooler fight than the Gouf vs Ez8 and it's only like a minute long.
Well, it's a different story. 0080 presented mobile suit fight as quick and deadly. 08th ms team is fricking the expendables.
I like how their big plan to destroy the gundam was explosives that probably wouldn't even damage the gundarium armor. The Chobam armor isn't all that tough considering they made the GM Cannon II with the same thing
>Feddies have to act like dummies to let the Kampfer kill em.
>Chain Mine just so happens to be there.
>Alex not reacting to the ample time of the Kampfer pulling out the chain mine.
>Alex survives via literal plot armor.
>Al is not blown back by such an explosion.
>Kampfer. after easily blasting away a bunch of feddie suits and being faster than the Alex, panics and decides to be a big dumbass and charge straight ahead.
>Kampfer somehow didn't cut up the Alex being that close.
Ho hum.
>panics and decides to be a big dumbass and charge straight ahead.
Of course he panics and charges straight ahead he ran out of weapons from the previous attack, genius.
Pfft, he has a beam saber and the Kampfer was clearly quicker than the Alex. He had options but got hit with the dummy stick as well
>Pfft, he has a beam saber and the Kampfer was clearly quicker than the Alex.
The Alex had guns, some dink with a katana trying to banzai charge a guy wielding an M60 is going to get turned into hamburger.
I feel like there might be a slight difference between a man running and someone piloting what is supposed to be an incredibly fast robot.
All of which means dick against someone that just has to raise their arm to kill them without moving an inch.
its only fast cause its big and you're small
if you scale a humam up, on the ground they arwnt really fast
>Kampfer somehow didn't cut up the Alex being that close.
Gun beats sword.
this
its not fricking gbo.
its also not GBO 2 since the suits in these clips move like actual mobile suits and not clunky pieces of shit
they move pretty similarly. are you sure you played the game
The bait is thick, but not as thick as ur mum
This is autism and not proper media analysis btw
Such is the case of all Ez8 vs. Gouf threads.
How did it have time to get it's gun out when the Kampfers already on top of it?
I see you uploaded the wrong Gouf fight. Here's the one you meant to post.
The middle of Gundam had a lot of interesting grunt fights, a shame they got cut out of the films. I always think about the one gouf right before the Tri-Stars episode who does a flip off an exploding dodai and goes for a falling stab on the gundam
Looks better than 08th and 0083
I also like Gouf, a mob piloted by a non-ace pilot.
It is exaggerated as a toy, but there is also the horror of war.
People who can't watch 70s animation are selling themselves short.
Them shooting at the rock and the one Gouf just spontaneously exploding will never not be funny. This is the real Gouf Troop.
This is so bad it loops back around to being good. You have to have 30+ boomer tastes though. Zoomers will never appreciate this.
It's the colors that does it for me.
no matter how good the OVAs or digital ones are animated, their color choices are bland and uninspirin most of the time.
long form fight sure, it makes for a very captivating episode
best animated and fight in general not really; it has to compete with f91, stardust, victory and turna
and if you want to bring choreography into the mix you've now got Yasuhiro Imagawa to contend with
Kai used the Guntank to bullseye Z'goks jumping out of the water. This is shameful.
dont you mean hayato
or was that when they were in port and he was running back
Yeah it was when White Base was in Belfast and Kai meets Miharu.
Please understand that most Guntanks get the shittiest pilots they have.
What did they end up replacing the Guntanks with after the OYW?
Nothing directly replaces the Guntank. The OYW had a shitton of specialized variant MS for different roles and terrains, but it largely disappears after the OYW. There are still some MS geared towards a fire support role, but they are pretty much all beam weapons and not for indirect artillery fire. The closest thing to a Guntank replacement is maybe the Loto since it can equip old fashioned projectile cannons.
That, or the Xamel.
Best Gundam fight is either Yazan squad vs Zeta or Zeta's final battle.
>muh arm rip so cool
Gay.
This was pretty cool. Especially with the Jazz playing.
Shout out to any fight in Unicorn that did not involve the Unicorn. They were mostly great.
what gundam is this?
Full Armor Gundam (Thunderbolt version) vs. Psycho Zaku Mk. II
It's good. The one against the Magella tanks is good too. I also like the zakus in the village fight despite the unrealistic rocket effects and side stepping a zaku machine gun bits. Nice heavy stompy giant mecha ground combat. 0083 is peak space battle for me also. 0079 and Zeta a great stories but the world building sucks and everything looks and moves like shit. Tomino Gundam for story time and non Tomino for cool shit happening on screen.
what qualifies as a good world building to you?
Why weren't more feddie pilots as semi competent as him?
The Stark Jegan isn't just for show
Because there wouldn't be a Zeon otherwise
>08th MS Team
>best fight
>realistic
t.
It's high up there, but not the best.