is pic related worth watching if you haven't read a single justice league comic in your life?
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is pic related worth watching if you haven't read a single justice league comic in your life?
is pic related worth watching if you haven't read a single justice league comic in your life?
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Yes. Most people don't read Justice League
well yeah, they have to make these cartoons to be watchable by 5 year olds
Yeah, I was rewatching some episodes for nostalgia recently and they hold up pretty well. Same with BTAS and Batman Beyond.
Marvelgay by blood and proxy here- the DCAU, of which this show is part of, is sort of like a DC 101 from what i've heard. A streamlined, "greatest hits" version of DC Comics which incorporates elements from all over and also does it own thing at the same time
I'd definitely watch it, and i'd love for a DCgay to get in here and explain the DC Universe and how it works.
On the Marvel side of things, it's harder to pin down the Marvel Universe into a greatest hits universe in part because with Marvel characters it's harder to find a status quo to stick with. With Superman and Batman, you can make a status quo pretty easily:
Superman
>Clark Kent lives in Metropolis and works at the Daily Planet
>Dates Lois Lane
>He's Superman, he's pure good
>He fights his villains and petty crime as Superman
>He does community work as Superman
>He visits Ma and Pa in Smallville very often, even just to give them some tomatoes
Batman
>Batman lives in Gotham City and he's rich
>Wayne Manor is a mansion, underneath it is the Batcave
>He has a sidekick named Robin
>Batman's civilian identity is Bruce Wayne
>Batman is scary, but a big softie under it all
>He fights petty crime, his villains, and solves mysteries
etc etc, and you can pin down the relationships between each character easily. With Marvel, perhaps because of the kineticisim of Jack Kirby's art and brain being fundamental to Marvel, it's not so easy. Where does Captain America live when he's Steve Rogers? is it Avengers Mansion or an apartment in his old neighborhood? What's his day to day superheroics like?
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it's much more of a challenge than it is with DC, and there's three shows that i'd recommend watching as a patchwork "Marvel 101"
>X-Men: The Animated Series
>The Spectacular Spider-Man
>Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
X-Men TAS has a bunch of other Marvel shows in its universe but they're not as good as X-Men, and EMH has an X-Men show in its universe but it's not as good as X-Men TAS so you can ignore those
Spectacular is great and very accurate, the only things that keep in mind are while Peter is only in HS for 28 issues in the comics, all of Spectacular is in high school so stories get moved. It was also made by Sony, so they have to replace A FRICKTON of Marvel stuff in the stories with more specific Spider-Man stuff, but it all works so no worries
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>avengers: earth mightiest heroes
That's the only good comic adaption i have seen that isn't spiderman
What about X-Men TAS?
NTA, but they burn through Claremont's stories like a fricking machine gun in that one.
Yeah, it's not perfect but they tried. I do like the art style more than Earth's Iightiest but that's me.
Marvel doesn't have that many animated shows or movies that can compete with DC. I guess Planet Hulk was alright, even if they departed from the comic a bit.
Mightiest*
I'll always remain curious about what a Bruce Timm/Dini Marvel cartoon would've been like. I think they could've pulled off something like Daredevil quite well.
>I do like the art style more than Earth's Iightiest but that's me.
I was never much of a fan of the art style because I never liked Jim Lee's designs to begin with. Always thought they looked like action figures and as a result the action was a lot less smooth than the stylized BTAS that came out at the same time.
X-Men and BTAS both had huge toylines
>Marvelgay by blood and proxy here- the DCAU, of which this show is part of, is sort of like a DC 101 from what i've heard. A streamlined, "greatest hits" version of DC Comics which incorporates elements from all over and also does it own thing at the same time
That's not actually true, especially the last part since the writers had bias for Batman (they're all from BTAS). Every terrible take normies have for DC movies come from this show because it simplifies characters and their abilities.
Batman sucked in JL. I don’t know why batgays excuse that nothing burger of a character there.
>I don’t know why batgays excuse that nothing burger of a character there.
The average Batgay operates with animal-like thinking:
1. I see Batman
2. I therefore must consume
He was so dogshit. Even after rewatch, I can only remember 1 or 2 scenes with him.
>Even after rewatch, I can only remember 1 or 2 scenes with him.
I remember him shitting on everyone else because it was so grating.
Do you have selective memory? A few “cool” shitty line’s doesn’t mean it happened every episode. I just can’t fricking stand other Batgays letting shit interpretations off the hook, because it’s ruining Batman. I recall more episodes with Superman shitting on others after the first season with either powergayging or the multiple times where they kept hinting that the League is under him. Yet everyone gives excuses for that for dome reason.
Funny how people talk about Batman when no one talks about Lex having far more plot armor. Batman had a shitty track record against Luthor in that series.
>Funny how people talk about Batman when no one talks about Lex having far more plot armor.
That's because everyone loves Lex Luthor. Clancy Brown is a treasure.
It’s insane how people give Superman and Superman related characters a pass when it comes to pure wank and plot armor. Even casuals do this. How many times I’ve heard from friends or sometimes random reactors online who state “why is Batman here?” “What the hell is he going to do?”
>Lex does the same thing
Tightlipped. They don’t question anything Lex or Superman does. In fact they ignore it and go straight for the nitpicked negatives that doesn’t even matter.
>It’s insane how people give Superman and Superman related characters a pass when it comes to pure wank and plot armor. Even casuals do this. How many times I’ve heard from friends or sometimes random reactors online who state “why is Batman here?” “What the hell is he going to do?”
That's because Lex Luthor is the standout character, you can't be a moron with a gun to go toe to toe with Superman or you'll get your shit clocked.
>Batman beats jesus
>whoever dont wank batman is enemy
Batman fan here. This is false. I hate his entire history post-golden age up until O'Neil's involvement just about. I also dislike Batman's stuff from the last 10 or so years with the exception of some miniseries that aren't a part of the main continuity.
>I hate his entire history post-golden age up until O'Neil's involvement just about.
O'Neil is when the Batwank really starts tho
In the context of the Justice League being a thing, I don't mind him being amped.
But Silver Age Batman is not my kind of capeshit. Superman's stuff was better in that period of time.
O'Neil's Batman could still be coldwienered by a thug that got the jump on him though. I don't think people mind the "Batman is a top 5 martial artist who doesn't sleep more than 4 hours" thing, it's when that training lets him survive a fight with superpowered people or surviving space jumps that it becomes wank.
O'Neil is when they making Batman into something he isn't, that being a tragic gothic character. No, the motherfricker is a man who dresses up as a bat who fights themed criminals.
>that being a tragic gothic character
And that's a better approach if you ask most modern fans.
I don't care about Captain Flying Rodent or Major Glory.
>And that's a better approach if you ask most modern fans.
It's just as ridiculous as the modern comics.
Comic books being ridiculous is a given, but that doesn't mean there can't be variety and you have to turn everything into a circus play.
I don't know if there is such a thing as a "true fan" who likes every single approach.
I like the Golden Age stuff and the 70s up until around a decade ago. The gap in between to me is a stereotypical Superman clone with a different gimmick.
>if you ask modern fans
Modern fans are morons that only consume shit
Wasn't the height of the consumerism during the Silver Age? The comics sold very well.
With Batman comics, you start when O'Neil becomes writer then stop when he retires as editor.
I like the post-Frank Miller Batman too, just not the most modern stuff.
To me TDKR is the penultimate Batman story and may as well have been his last, I wouldn't mind that.
Yeah Frank Miller's stuff is included in that range. Peak Batman is early 70s all the way through the entire 90s. That's a solid nearly 30 year run.
That's my exact stance too. And I do have a pro-Batman bias but not to the point where it overrides logic.
Sometimes the character has been insufferable. A mistake of the writers.
the mcu really needs a justice league tier cartoon ya know, they could do it.
start with an iron man series, make it 3 seasons or so, start a captain America series midway trough, than an avengers series right after both of these end.
Earth's Mightiest was essentially that. It had a few decent episodes but overall it never reached JL's level.
yeah but they could still give it a go again.
I mean Dc still releases a ton of animated movies and they are mostly all very decent, even the lego stuff is ok
Yes. You should watch the prior DCAU shows first though
Skip to Unlimited for the Lex Luthor show
99 percent of the people who love that show have never read a single JL comic before. Nor should they, comics are mostly bad.
Pic is better than Justice League cartoon tho.
This was made a year ago and its still getting worse.
Every 5 years, when I'm in a Batman kind of mood, I create a thread on Cinemaphile asking if there's a single ongoing Batman book that doesn't feature a million sidekicks and is primarily focused on simple good storytelling featuring solo Batman doing detective work shit trying to take down bad guys and gangsters. And every 5 years I'm left in the cold and left re-reading old stories.
Any thread about anything DC is just asking for weeping Batman hate.
Batman. Batman. Batman.
Love him or hate him, he’s all DCgays talk about.
It's only thing carrying DC
It's ruining DC.
Yet DC is in a worst state then it’s ever been.
Want to look at marvel? All capeshit is fricked those days
Marvel hasn't been good since they fired the Shooter sure, but that doesn't excuse DC's last decade of mediocrity.
Remember when capeshit was an actual phenomenon? The death of Superman was reported as a huge deal in the national news, insane sales numbers, people crying in the streets…
Now capeshit is just low IQ movies and low selling comics.
Marvel and DC needs to die. Kill it off. It’s worn out it’s novelty decades ago. Superheros in general are outdated now, it’s time to let it go.
>Superheros in general are outdated now,
how?
When they turned from a cultural icons to nerd shit and attracted dumbass modern day zoomers.
I think it's the opposite. They should be nerd shit and the "cultural icon" thing is a bit silly. There are comparisons to be made with mythology and such, but at the end of the day, it's just pulp and fiction.
Superman being a cultural icon is something I don't care about. He should be blasted with Red Kryptonite and morph into an 8 legged spider in the hands of some nerd on the subway reading a comic.
I don’t really care what you think. Capeshit is so pathetic now, low sale numbers, shitty Bat comics, piss poor movies. DC going under is for the better. Most capeshit fans are idiots now so I guess that came with the change.
Why should comic book superheroes be "cultural icons"? Are sci fi, fantasy or horror characters "cultural icons"? Foh
>The death of Superman was reported as a huge deal in the national news, insane sales numbers, people crying in the streets…
That was literally a stunt and one of the low points of 90s comics that made people turn to Marvel out of anger.
Stunt or not capeshit was bigger back then and actually mattered. What is DC now? Piss poor meme movies, low comic sales, horrible animated movies. I don’t see how anyone likes current capeshit.
>Stunt or not capeshit was bigger back then and actually mattered.
Death of Superman is literally when death or consequences in comics not mattering literally became a stain on comics you dumbass.
moron. Other comic characters died and came back before Superman “dies” it just that no one gave a shit in comparison.
To this day, I’ll never understand how any comics fan thought he was going to stay dead. I read the entire DaRoS and I enjoyed it.
CotIE was my gateway to the Marvel Universe.
Batman attracts negativity. Relax, Shitting on him is kind of fun even if I like him. Kind of like those dusty ass comics of his right now.
This unironically got me into the comics. It's an O K primer into a bunch of DC characters. Also I appreciate the artistic style.
No
Read JLI instead.
I tried to get into the DCAU, and watched like five or six episodes of the Batman series. It felt like too much of a kids show. I know it is a kids show, but I couldn't get into it. Maybe the other series' are better.
It was and I still haven’t
Peak DC and no one can convince me otherwise. I had high hopes for Young Justice after season 1 but it never came close to this.