>elite mandalorian warrior
>descended from mandalorian royalty, basically a space princess
>elite fighter pilot
>super genius engineer, as a young teenager created one of the empire's deadliest weapons. Only she knows how it works and how to build it, no one else in the empire is smart enough to figure it out.
>Force user, on par with Ezra who has been training as a jedi for years
>tanks wounds that would be deadly to everyone else, doesn't even need a bacta tank to heal from mortal injury.
Did I forget anything? Filoni needs someone who will tell him no.
I forgot, on top of all this she is a famous artist who is widely known throughout the galaxy for her art, which she does as a hobby for fun.
>elite mandalorian warrior
they train as kids from birth to be warriors
>space princess
she rejected her heritage during most of rebels only to come back when her family was in danger
>elite fighter pilot
she was briefly a pilot with the empire before defecting
>force user on par with ezra
maybe shes only scratching the surface of her power, plus she actually trained and had to hone her connection with the force before being able to wield it.
>tanks wounds
she has Beskar armor so basically a bullet proof vest but for lasers and the health care is better post galactic civil war. But you'd know all this if you actually watched the show and paid attention.
Sequel gay hands wrote this
>she has Beskar armor so basically a bullet proof vest but for lasers and the health care is better post galactic civil war. But you'd know all this if you actually watched the show and paid attention.
She was completely impaled through the back by Shin's lightsaber, if you actually watched the show you'd know that.
>through the back
clearly the side of her lower stomach area but ok
tis but a scratch
i think he meant it went all the way through her body.
as in came out the back
Not reading all of that but you're a homosexual who consumes slop and begs for more
>doesnt wanna read perfect explanations
>calls me a gay who loves slop
KWAB
Alright I doubted it for a while but now Im convinced there are paid shills who lurk the boards to make posts like these. If you posted this of your own accord, seriously man the frick is wrong with you?
I'm starting to believe too.
You don’t think they’re really laundering all the money they’ve claimed to spend on these budgets. Of course they pay trannies on adderall who never leave their dark piss stench rooms all day to shill everywhere. Even the biggest homosexuals on YT are starting to lose hope for the franchise and becoming disillusioned.
Kys
You write these things like they're good defenses against what he said
Though I do agree in principle, she's more of a writer's pet rather than a mary sue
what's the difference?
Didn't read. The point isn't that any of those traits are inexplicable, it's that piling each and every one of them onto a single character is too much. It doesn't matter if you can explain their reasoning, it's still stupid.
>morons seething in responses
bravo
She got stabbed through the abdomen with a lightsaber. Her insides should have boiled and cauterized immediately. She wouldn't have been able to get to medical attention fast enough in that situation. They already had Reva survive from this sort of thing, so it's a bit much.
>they train as kids from birth to be warriors
Check the lore again. Mandalorians get training, but they aren't experts in every form like Sabine. They often specialize in certain weapons. Yet Sabine is a master of everything.
>plus she actually trained
did she tho?
she cant have done more than a week of "training".
meanwhile padawans at the jedi temple took many years to reach the level she had in the show.
hollywood Black folk do not realize that a normal human can do one thing barely, someone talented can do one thing good, someone brillaint might do two or three separate things in their lives well and someone really blessed with genius might do more than three.
You might be into natural sciences and if you're good you might also be a talented artists. But that's where it ends. You can do sports but you won't be an athlete. There is not enough youth, not enough years in the period between 10-25 that decide what a human specializes in in his life. You might have some undiscovered talent, with most people that is quite unlikely, but still, you might also have that. Then circumstance might see you doing that instead after a period of years, that however happens at the cost of what you specalized in before.
People who play chess only play fricking chess, athletes only do sports, soldiers only fight. Rarely is someone, especially people who through innate physiological adaptability and force perform some sort of physical career, capable of breaking their conditioning. That is out of the mental into the physical, out of the physical into the mental.
We have children try many things and we as adults try new things still throughout our lives, but it is supremely unlikely that we break from the frame, the horizon of the things we consider, see and do as a part of our (unseen) perception of our own lives. What I but the sum of things I do? Little more, though it is important that we are self conscious and free, the applicability, the reality of these are lacking when we are invested in days and weeks and months and years. When we are in time.
These characters are not in time. The super hero craze in the last decade contributed severely to the image we have of fictional characters, of the characters befitting cinema, as larger than life and because of their grandiosity more than and entirely in-human.
They are given traits which seem and arguably are entirely natural. How many of us were invested in art or music or some afterschool program when we were young. We tried many things, were force to try many things and go through a rather rigerous training and education comapred to any other time in human history from early childhood even. Two year olds are already forced to learn a second language, even a third language when two languages are already present in their household; not to speak of our school programs and education.
But how many of us became artists from the maybe somewhat talented doodles, how many of us became athletes from being the fastest runners in class or at the school, how many of us play concerts because we learned piano or cello or violin, how many of us write books because we had a diary, how many of us are operators because we played with sticks, how many of us founded companies because we played store, how many of us are politicians, political leaders because we were able to force a decision in our friend groups and classes, during a sports game. The average is never plain, even the subpar still plays (and tries).
Few I would assume.
With unrestrained fiction in a medium such as a film where only play-time is limited but scope is infinite, showing a moment where a character is invested just as we were in something, is enough to establish their later talent. A doodle becomes a Van Gogh, a stick becomes a lightsaber, a temper tantrum the force and fate, a sports helmet invincible armor.
Not to speak of what these represent, what a character makes out of the things they are given, things already phenomenal, when they are not limited neither by no body nor by stress.
>Did I forget anything?
Star wars is for children and you're a grown ass man
Twitter history, now. I'm tired of you homosexuals tweeting out all your "yaaas queen" bullshit baout children's shows that push your political horseshit, and then calling others childish when they criticize it. You're no better praising it than someone else is critiquing it.
>push your political horseshit
Grow up, you, frickhead. Politic are cool. Prequels are fabulooous! Love democracy!
Remember how glad all the fanboys were that "at least they're not making her a full Jedi" and that "she'll just be a force sensitive like Chirrut was" now she's canonically the "Jedi" with the least amount of midichlorians and force potential in several thousand years and she's doing force abilities like no problem. Of course the same people who praised her "not being a full Jedi" will now flip their opinion 180 degrees and tell us why it's so awesome that she's a full fledged Jedi. Filoni is a hack.
>more combat experience than Shin probably
>math/engineering prodigy; her own work was turned against Mandalore
First says no, second says yea, what we see with that football field force push also yea. At least she loses fights to Shin, then again they didn't showcase that she's formidable being a Mandolorian child soldier from birth from a civilization that made a name for themselves combating Jedi effectively without the force (e.g. Sabine knowing she's not great with the laser sword fights dirty, favoring closing the distance and forcing hand to hand & grappling as much as possible). She still has more bona fides than she-Sheev.
The Jedi being the ineffectual enforcers of a corrupt galactic government ultimately led to Mandalore being glassed (again)-- Sabine not having any misgivings about Jedi stuff and being force sensitive should be a bigger deal for her (show the internal conflict, not just Orange Hoe alluding to why she didn't continue training her). Order 66 was Jango's Revenge as much as the Sith's.
What am I looking at here
Mouse Wars is great at reminding me of Star Wars stuff that is actually good.
The DH KOTOR series was amazing. Remember Demagol?
Ah, yes, a fellow man of culture
which novel series are worth reading?
i already have a bunch of the comics but i am looking for suggestions for something to read and I’ve heard there’s some really good options but you have to wade through some shit that isn’t obvious at first that it’ll become shit
One thing you all need to remember - it was purely the invention of the EU that only a select handful can become Jedi. Lucas never claimed that in his movies.
Even in the EU, characters like
were proof that, with enough experience and dedication, anyone can become a proficient Jedi.
The movies introduced midichlorians as the selector for jedi. It's a good magic system that allows room for training and technique to beat natural affinity. The more you train the more use you get out of your set midichlorians. And everyone has them.
Zayne is a pretty good example to follow from a storytelling perspective. He's not even a Jedi, but literally a failed Padawan with a very weak connection to the Force. Even against Raana Tey, who is described at being rather shit as dueling and using the Force in combat, he gets manhandled. Not only that, but he's not that good at anything, really. He's got no particularly notable skills. And yet, his adventures are incredibly compelling, not despite that, but because of it.
>1999+24
>still paying attention to israelite wars
it ended in 2005, give it a rest already homosexual.
Rey won her first fight against Kylo despite having never used a lightsaber before in her life.
Sabine had formal training and still got rekt in her first fight with Shin.
>still got rekt in her first fight with Shin
she recovered instantly
Yeah and everyone hates Rey Palpatine and calls her a Mary Sue
Sabine is a post-mary sue
basically she's mary sue, but the writers are trying to write her with the intent that she's not seen as a mary sue.
because of this she just "fails" all the time despite her failures never actually having any dire consequences, all the while passively progessing passed any sort of adversity in manners that are never actually earned
Exactly this. She lost a fight, but the outcome was almost completely irrelevant. She had a lapse in judgement, risking the safety of the galaxy to see her friend, but Ahsoka stands by her decision and she ducks her way out of even telling Ezra period. It's no different than Rey losing her temper and blowing up a ship that didn't have Chewie on it. A completely hollow shortcoming desperately tacked on for its own sake without having any real effect on the character's development.
Sabine actually had to train before she could do anything and she failed for 7 episodes straight. Rey picked up the Force on the next day she learned of the Force's existence, successfully used a mind trick to free herself without any prior training, successfully beat the main antagonist in their first encounter with a lightsaber that she picked up for the first time in her life. There is no contest. Rey is the ultimate, dictionary definition of a Mary Sue. And nothing will ever change that. You are a disingenuous, dishonest moron. And anyone who argues that, too.
I assume she also trained heavily before, since they say she was her padawon. I never watched the cartoons.
here is all her training in rebels
Her training with Ahsoka took place after "Rebels" and prior to the series, since she was her official Padawan, which doesn't occur in "Rebels."
so we dont see it?
doesnt exist imo.
You know how long, according to the script for TESB, was Luke on Dagobah? Six months. Doesn't feel that way in the movie.
>Doesn't feel that way in the movie.
the entire OT feels like it takes place over 1 maybe 2 weeks.
watch the movies back to back.
its so fast.
The first two Sequel movies literally take place within two days, which is insane.
When it comes to the OT, there's a two year timeskip between IV and V; Luke spends several months on Dagobah; and another year between V and VI.
i dont care about the timeline
i care about how it feels watching the movie.
and it feels like 2 weeks.
the PT FEELS like its taking place over many many years.
>and it feels like 2 weeks.
No, it doesn't. You don't get the feeling there was no timeskip in-between movies. The locations change; the hairstyles change; the clothing changes; the situation changes - you get every possible hint that time has passed.
>The locations change; the hairstyles change; the clothing changes; the situation changes
all of these things can happen within the span of 1 hour.
nothing you listed means it HAS to take place over years.
again.
to me it feels like 2 weeks.
>successfully beat the main antagonist in their first encounter with a lightsaber that she picked up for the first time in her life.
She beat someone who had just been 1) gutshot with Chewie's God Gun 2) softened up further by someone else fighting him
And a bunch of this happens after she completely fricked things up for everyone by running away scared and getting herself captured by the FO
Kathy, please go
so yeah, basically, rey sucks
>Sabine waved a stick around for a minute
>therefore it's fine that she has force powers stronger than your average jedi that trained from birth
frick off Dave
What the FRICK are you even talking about
The only significant thing she does is just barely push Ezra enough to reach the Star Destroyer instead of falling to his death
And that was fricking ridiculous though. I mean, Star Wars is silly shit, but that was absurd.
Sabine had barely used the force once and Ezta trusted her to push him. Fricking hell, that was awful
Yeah as far as Jedi goes she’s like Kyle Katarn in level 5 of Dark Forces II. Maybe even weaker.
She pushed him a great distance, like 50-100ft. She could move the cup a couple episodes prior, then without any additional training she's able to grab the lightsaber while she's being strangled by a zombie, and then she force pushes Ezra like 50-100ft. She went from 0 - 100 in no time at all. It's bullshit.
I also want to say that Sabine is the prototypical Sith recruit. She doesn't listen to anyone (especially her master), doesn't train, has strong attachment to Ezra, short-tempered/anger issues, deceptive even to the ones she loves the most, and she risked the entire galaxy to save a single person. Kill Ezra and Sabine turns into a Sith. It's fricking stupid that Ahsoka would even train her at all, as Ahsoka should know better. Sabine would do ANYTHING to get what she wants. If they turn her Sith, then it all makes sense, but they won't because Filoni is fricking moronic.
...Ahsoka walked away and stopped training her for exactly that reason
She got a lesson to knock that shit off and stick by her friends even if the possibility of things going bad is there instead of turning her back on them
Except that they knew the space whales migrated and there was the possibility they could fricking ride one to wherever they took Ezra. So giving the enemy exactly what they want is stupid and selfish. You should never risk an entire fricking galaxy for one person. It's moronic by any standard unless you happen to believe that one guy you like is worth sacrificing billions.
>she failed for 7 episodes straight
yes but then hurled erza 100 feet into the air (as he was already descending no less, didn't just assist his jump) in the last episode
I love how obvious that's the stunt double and not her. As soon as it cuts to her taking her mask off she loses like 15lbs of muscle and has zero definition on her arms.
The only thing I wonder though is why? Why did she need a stunt double for a scene where she's just swinging a wooden sword around at nobody? There is literally zero reason why the actress couldn't have performed that scene on her own.
It's funny because it seems like her stunt double PUT ON that muscle for the role/recently since she's not even that muscular in headshots though maybe she had a pump going before these scenes but Natasha just showed up to swing a stick once.
>Yet ANOTHER "wear a sight-obscuring helmet" training scene.
So tired of how creatively bankrupt and gay Star Wars has become. Even if wearing a sight-obscuring helmet was actually some kind of timeless jedi training method, and not just something obi-wan did with the limited resources he had on the falcon to train Luke, they make it out as if that's the only thing Jedi ever did to train their students. They either trained with a dumb helmet on or they sat there meditating while lifting shit with their minds. Everything we saw in the OT and only that. Even though those training methods were clearly all improvised.
How fricking hard is it to think of different training methods that suit the idea of teaching proficiency in the force? Why not do something new and interesting with it instead of REMEMBER THIS?!
ok wise master how would you train a jedi
You don't remember this? Georgie boy cannibalised his own babies. Except they weren't his own.
The OT was a series of happy accidents and collaboration between many talented people trying to make something good out of a pastiche that would make Tarantino blush. Everything is stolen from somewhere, and that's okay. I personally don't have a problem with it based on principle like some other autistic fricking nerds. But the problem started when George got it in his head that to continue Star Wars he had to stop stealing from elsewhere and instead started regurgitating the old stuff (it rhymes) and stealing from himself.
>legit had to train
>has LITERALLY one small training scene and later uses the force like it's no issue
Some of you are actually moronic luke was the greatest Jedi ever with a grand total of roughly 17 minutes of “training” on screen
Ashoka was okay, didn’t stick the landing kind of like the Solo movie. It’s just mediocre with a few good episodes
Some of the complaints about it like “Sabine is a Mary sue” is just not true and autistic
>Some of you are actually moronic luke was the greatest Jedi ever with a grand total of roughly 17 minutes of “training” on screen
He trained for years in between Empire and Return of the Jedi, and he is the son of Jedi Jesus.
And Sabine “trained for years” as well they say as much in the show and she can after years barely use the force at all
She isn’t a Mary sue. I don’t even like the character or the show really but she is quite obviously not a Mary sue by definition
Ahsoka says in episode 1 she didn't train at all and Sabine confirms.
No she doesn’t she says she ended the training. It’s written as something they started and never finished
>she can after years barely use the force at all
Stop the cope. Being able to push Ezra up to the Star Destroyer is not barely using the force. That's a real feat.
Yes it is co suffering what we’ve seen other force users do like idk deflect blaster shots with their mind, choke people to death, throw humans hard enough to kill them, lift ships that weigh hundreds of tons, shoot fricking lighting, heal people, come back to life, transmit matter across vast distances of space and time
Etc etc etc
There is plenty of reasons to say Ashoka isn’t good but “Sabine is a Mary sue” isn’t accurate it’s a dumb complaint
My issue with Sabine is that she isn’t likable as a character
>like the Solo movie
stfu that movie was garbage
I said it was mediocre and didn’t stick the landing
Which it is. I know zoomers talk like morons but mediocre doesn’t mean “good”
I was a Sabine apologist too until the last episode.
The disappointment is because she had the potential to be a compelling character, but the finale was way too over the top. She's TOO powerful in the force. If they were going down the route where she discovers force sensitivity later in life, the it should've always just been something she can use in subtle ways to enhance her mandalorian combat abilities. Something that gives her an extra edge. But instead she went from 0-1000 in one episode. It's too extreme and absolute DOGSHIT. Rey was always bad but at least Sabine could've been a really good character. They ruined that.
>If they were going down the route where she discovers force sensitivity later in life, the it should've always just been something she can use in subtle ways to enhance her mandalorian combat abilities.
>Laughs in Kyle Katarn, Brienne, Bao-Dur, Atton Rand, and two dozen other characters
Yeah, those Jedi latecomers sure did have a slow rise in power.
>Kyle Katarn, Brienne, Bao-Dur, Atton Rand,
I don't know who any of these homosexuals are
>outing yourself as a zoomie newbie troon
Kyle Katarn is from Jedi Academy, Atton Rand is from Kotor 2, Bao Dur is also from Kotor. No idea who Brienne is.
were all of these people also
on top of being an epic late bloomer jedi?
>1. Famous Artist known throughout the Galaxy.
>2. Trained Engineer
>3. Famous Bounty hunter and went of adventures with other bounty hunters. So much so that she is able to call up favors from other bounty hunters that owe her.
>4. Better swordsman and fighter than even Gar Saxon who is a trained Veteran of the Clone Wars
>5. Explosives expert
>6. Expert marksman (Mandalorians only get basic training. They can't be experts in everything. Check the lore. They often specialize in certain weapons)
>7. Somehow Achieved all of this before the Age of 14 while also being a rebel fighter with Hera and Kanan.
I grew up in the 90's with Star Wars, enjoyed the prequels, grew out of all that shit real fast, always loved the memories.
This webm looks really gorgeous, like they finally figured out how to capture the physical props in very clear and smooth camerafocus.
I might have to sub to disney for a month and watch some of this stuff, are the stories good?
Just funny as a dispassionate observer to note that it took movie studios literally 50 years, basically almost a whole adult lifetime, to realize that shooting physical objects looks more interesting than CGi... This looks GREAT.
Why do many presume Sabine's training with Ahsoka had anything to do with actually using the Force? Her training was just being able to unlock the ability to use the Force. She didn't practice using the Force before her last episode's Rey feats where she's suddenly an expert.
You forgot that Rey didn't even know you can use the Force to influence the minds of people. She just... sort of figured it out herself.
elite hacker, spray paint graffitti artist, and space pilot.
>elite hacker
>elite pilot
>super genius weapons engineer
>force using lightsaber wielding Jedi
>galaxy-wide famous graffiti artist and Rebel Alliance propagandist
>descended from Mandalorian royalty
it's all so tiresome
>still can’t get a man and is upset by this
Is there a more perfect analogy for the modern woman that Star Wars girl bosses?
Although its unbelievable bullshit she survived a lightsaber stab, at least she had some failures on screen. Rey is just fricking annoyingly perfect.
I want a show where every character is a Mary Sue, because being a Mary Sue is the BARE MINIMUM required to SURVIVE as an individual against all the other ridiculous bullshit everyone else has.
A bit like Warhammer 40,000.
>the BARE MINIMUM required to SURVIVE
then it's not mary sue
It is a Mary Sue but so are the opponents.
Everyone is a Mary Sue.
>total and absolute Mary Stu
>still achieve kino cult status and is loved by many
how did they do it bros....
There are absolutely ways to write a Mary Sue character well. I'm not sure this is one of them. I was a young teen when this came out, and the interesting thing about It was me and my friends identifying with the team instead of the main character. It's all so bonkers and overt that BB is generally the least interesting thing going on. Self insert is the reason why MarySue is a thing, but we didn't want to be him, we wanted to hang out with him.
I think a better (good) MartyStu is the MC from the Gate anime. The MC is perfect and kind, and everyone immediately likes him and... he barely matters. He isn't the focus, he's the mechanism to explore the isekai world and what Japanese people think about war between developed and undeveloped cultures in the aftermath of WW2.
Nobody even knows what a Mary Sue is anymore. Black folk call Kyle Katarn a Mary Sue when he was one of the more complex Star Wars character arcs to exist.
Kyle Katarn would absolutely be a mary sue if he was a book or movie character. He goes from 0 jedi skill to Master level without anyone training him, he just picks up a saber and becomes a god. He steals the death star plans, he's Luke's bff, he's right about everything, and he has a higher kill count than a death star etc etc etc.
But he's a videogame character and his abilities and feats are simply a vessel so the player can shoot guns and wave lightsabers around. That's how games are, only cutscenes are really canon. That's why Kyle isn't a mary sue, for the same reason Nathan Drake isn't.
I think alot of what makes it feel justified with Kyle is playing through it, even though if you think about it more in real time in a show or a movie or something, it would feel totally silly. I think its similar to how people get attached to characters like gordon freeman or doomguy, it feels like your adventure too
>he barely matters. He isn't the focus, he's the mechanism to explore the isekai world
That's not a Mary Sue - they are almost Macguffin in their importance. This is a different trope, where the MC is just there to be an innocent (like the viewer/reader) so it makes sense for everything to be explained to them and why they arent part of the real heroes doing the work.
Like imagine some comedic action where a ten year old accidentally ends up with the alien version of Seal Team 6.
Mary Sue, Gary Stu, I don't even care.
The major issue with her character is the writers can't write, the directors can't direct, and the actress cannot fricking act AT ALL. It's like watching Star Trek '09 with Bruce Vilanch as Kirk instead of Chris Pine.
Ahsoka 1.01 might be the worst episode of television I've ever seen.
>elite mandalorian warrior
She's not particularly elite
>descended from mandalorian royalty, basically a space princess
Descended from nobility, not royalty
>elite fighter pilot
Again, never established as elite. In Rebels she's actually pretty bad at gunning and piloting
>Force user, on par with Ezra who has been training as a jedi for years
She's not on par with Ezra at all
Only valid points are her super genius engineer backstory and the asspull surviving a lightsaber through the guts
She's also an expert hacker, and a famous graffiti
Sabine comes across to me as a “Jack of all trades but master of none.”
She’s a Mandalorian, but she’s no Din, much less even close to Boba Fett.
She’s a “Jedi” but she’s weaker than Ahsoka was as a Padawan.
She got bodied by Shin Hati.
She’s made some MASSIVE frick ups. It’s entirely her fault that Thrawn was able to make his return.
I don’t see a Mary Sue, and I say that as someone else who agrees that Rey is a textbook Mary Sue as others ITT have said.
Don't forget she is a super genius military grade weapons engineer, and is famous across the galaxy for her graffiti, and also a space princess descended from mandalorian nobility and daughter of a revolutionary leader.
There's something funny about her to me. The way she constantly fricks up but gets bailed out by deus ex machina then uses that to become overconfident and frick up again. Like how she completely undid Ezra's sacrifice or how she constantly tries to fight with the lightsaber and has to give up after 15 seconds of fighting or her genius plan to ram the ship into TIE fighters when they're on a race against the clock to board a star destroyer. She is total deadweight if not a liability but she constantly makes that face as if she's Luke Skywalker and Han Solo combined.
Imagine being Ahsoka in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Sabine Wren, you frickin' skilled, all cool with your painted armor and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally support you, both my character and the real me." when all she really wants to do is train with another master in his world between worlds. Like seriously imagine having to be Ahsoka and not only sit in that ship while Sabine flaunts her decisions in front of you, the shoddy writing barely concealing her hypocrisy and general idiocy, and just sit there, battle after battle, hour after hour, while she bungled every plan. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fricking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone in the crew tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, SABINE WREN CAN FORCE PUSH THAT?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fricking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been training with nothing but a healthy diet of clone troopers and Jedi and later alleged traitors for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Shili. You've never even seen anything this fricking inept before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's covering her lightsaber hilt as she turns it on to writhe it blindly at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and develop her "picturesque (for that is what she calls herself)" potential, the potential she worked so hard to achieve with Ezra and Kanan in the previous series. And then the Grand Admiral calls for another battle, and you know you could kill every single person in this camp before the night troopers could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fricking Ahsoka. You're not going to lose your future jedi order over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
Sabine is annoying, and she’s the worst part of the Ahsoka show. But she’s still 10000000000000000x better than Rey Palpatine.
In addition to being a terrible character, Rey is also outright STEALING the story and destiny of 3 other iconic characters. So Rey will ALWAYS be the worst
>Rey is also outright STEALING the story and destiny of 3 other iconic characters.
You say that but ashoka was literally setting things up so that filonis characters end up literally stealing a story about han luke and leia and giving that exact same storyline (except replacing c'baoth with witches and the clones with zombies) to his pet characters instead.
rey stole their potential storylines. filoni is in the process of stealing their ACTUAL stories. it's honestly much more offensive, and made all the worse because filoni is an actual moron of a writer so he's assassinating thrawn in the process.
i dunno but check this out
Where is her penis?
Femanons if you want your boyfriend to temporarily lose his sanity and knock you up, look like that, dress like that, and act like that.
whats with the weird x-men lingerie?
she's showing her support for Ukraine
is this an ukrin?
its her giant half asian bush
Built for BWC
She looks like she fricks White guys
yeah ok
all i see is a female ezra miller
I would like to see sabines body wrapped by the moonlight and ahsoka lays bare in a hotspring in season 2
why are you watching someone's gamma squirt fantasies?
what absolutely disgusting individuals
Uncanny
I'm a millennial and know like 4 couples who look exactly like this.
>he's a pens fan
it just gets worse
>6 cup appearances
>back-to back every time
>5 cup wins
>4 finals and 3 wins in the last 15 years
Haha, cope.
>wolf christmas sweater
For fricks sake
FRICKING LOL I THOUGHT IT COULDN'T GET WORSE THAN THE HAT AND WOLF OBSESSION AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
that explains alot
The fact that Filoni is married to such a gross woman says a lot about him.
he's obviously gay
he's mega gay and she is his beard who probably pegs him
My impression of Filoni was that he was gay. I was surprised enough to find out he has a wife, I would have been a lot more surprised if she was not a disgusting she-Jabba.
she's a she-jabba who wants to kill babies and worships Satan.
Exactly. Everything about her is disgusting. Dave Filoni is married to her and she has his ear, what does that say about the current state of Star Wars?
The biggest crime here isn't that she's gross or the wolf sweater but how she let herself go. She used to be pretty.
>homies literally stalking filoni's wife and looking for the photos of her in her youth
That's why you have option to make your account private. Her isn't, not my fault.
Mid at best.
>OMG PEOPLE LOOKING UP PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFO THAT SHE PUT OUT TO THE WHOLE WORLD IS LE STALKING!!!
She was hot when she was younger or had potential to be. Just look at her and imagine her at 21 and 110 lbs not doing her best be as repulsive and Feminist as possible.
Every 110lb 21 year old is hot.
She has that domineering c**twife look about her. Reminds me of AVGN's wife.
I didn't watch the cartoon but she spends the entire show AT BEST just barely getting things done. So, I'm going to go with no.
She is but people will say she's not because she struggled to use the force once and got stabbed (then magically healed) by the white haired jobber.
I didn't watch the cartoon, but she fails over and over again in Ahsoka. I don't see how you could possibly see her as a bigger Mary Sue than Rey unless you don't know what that term means
>I didn't watch the cartoon, but she fails over and over again in Ahsoka.
She fails, but there are never lasting consequences of her failures.
I hate that ugly ass eye shadow she wears
I would like to storm her boarding ramp
The short answer is that Star Wars is not cinema
If she is a princess, why doesn't she want to become a sexless Jedi instead of continue the blood line?
I still want to nut in her with the power of my twin suns so they did their job.
thats just a regular woman
Maybe on Rebels (IDK i´ve not watched that) but on Ahsoka she´s a talent-less drop out that fricks up everything and assists on general blue balls return. Her GF Shin is cute though...
No one will ever be a bigger Mary Sue than Rey. Remember that Rey is a desert scavenger with literally no one to look after her that somehow manages to adjust to space life in under a second and becomes a master technician in about 20 seconds. I would be shocked if we ever get a character that egregious again. I can’t remember a worse character.
>No one will ever be a bigger Mary Sue than Rey. Remember that Rey is a desert scavenger with literally no one to look after her that somehow manages to adjust to space life in under a second and becomes a master technician in about 20 seconds. I would be shocked if we ever get a character that egregious again. I can’t remember a worse character.
This.
Rey is nightmarishly bad. She goes from illiterate homeless dumpster diver to lecturing Luke Fricking Skywalker about what he should or shouldn’t do in one day flat.
Imagine a homeless girl from Nevada arguing complex litigation in front of the Supreme Court a mere 5 min after being told what a “lawyer” is and winning the case. That’s Rey.
No one will ever be worse than Rey
That's because Rey has Palpatine blood
Another thing that gets me is her perfect personality
>It's been ten years of you living in this god-foresaken desert
>You've had to learn how to fight and survive
>Every day is a struggle
>You're so fricking hungry
>You find a droid that you don't know and have no attachment to and are offered 240x the amount of food you just got for a day's amount of work
>You decide not to take it because you're a little angel
She should've been the han solo of the sequels. A scoundrel who eventually opens up
Yeah she doesn’t have the personality of a desert scavenger at any point. She’s just Daisy Ridley. That’s one of the reasons the character is so uncompelling, it takes you right out of it.
>Live shit life
>Something new and potentially exciting comes into your life
>Have to choose between security and potential
>Chooses potential
Amazing that you focused on one of her very few good moments.
You'd have to be absolutely fricking brain dead to think she's a "Mary Sue", even by the standards of the idiots who misuse that term constantly
Is she a Lipstick Lezzie?
The word you're looking for is 'protagonist'
Frick are you on about? She's utterly useless for like 70% of the season, the show makes reference to it constantly.
why the FRICK did they make her cut her hair bros?
Long hair was symbolic of her decadence and defeatist attitude. When she decided it's time to stop b***hing and being an emo kid, she cut her hair, ready to go on an adventure. Basic stuff.
So she could have cute pixie cut
It is cute but I think the long hair was cuter tbh
She can use the force now?!
The fact nobody called out the damage she caused by facilitating Thrawn's return just to get to Ezra reminds me of Wandavision all over again. A woman causes massive damage to the world because of her own selfish wishes, and nobody ever acknowledges it. As if she did nothing wrong. This is bizarre in an IP where an entire trilogy is built around Anakin's selfish love destroying the galaxy and leading him to the dark side.
She is where she needs to be the force said so.
I couldn't help but laugh at that line. It felt like such a massive cope given the situation they were in. ''Yes, I have the feeling being stranded with these hermit crabs in the same position Ezra made no progress in ten years is exactly where we need to be" lmao
Ahsoka calls her out on her taking an enormous gamble but doesn't blame her for it because she specifically got an entire don't turn your back on people no matter what lesson and she's sticking with it
Sabine turned her back on an entire galaxy full of people when she decided to help bring back Thrawn. Your logic goes completely out the window when you account for that.
Looks like a hafu version of Sasha Grey.
Absolutely. People b***h about Ahsoka but she was handled ok enough. Sabine was a total writer's pet.
>strong mandalorian + legendary artist + royalty + mechanic + inventor + strong pilot + strong duelist + Jedi, is there nothing she can't do?
>Beskar + Bacta tanks give her total plot armor that lets her block every ranged attack and survive every melee attack even if you shove a lightsaber through her ribs
>nobody calls her out for essentially setting Thrawn up
>she can arbitrarily become force sensitive because "she trained" despite not having any force sensitivity before, can use force telekinesis to the level even Luke couldn't in ESB
It's good that Sabine lost to Shin initially. All of the above would be hyperobvious if not for that.
Also what was the point of order 66? Why do you need holocrons to find force users? Sabine's sudden Force sensitivity proves to us you can just train someone to be Force sensitive, you don't need someone to be born with it, so why not just train normal civvies to be jedi?
Order 66 kills the active Jedi, holocron records track down all the people with inherently high potential who are basically future anti-Sith ready to come off a production line
Sabine took a long time to manifest even under the direct tutelage of a Jedi, without that she'd simply have never made it at all
She should never have become a Jedi at all. She's too old, she has a temper, she has attachments, and she will risk an entire galaxy to save one person she likes. She's fricking 30 years old, dude. Ahsoka never should have trained her.
Your all homosexuals. It still connects to the sequels even reinforces them. Frick Disney and falonie baloney
i dont really care about her abilities but i love her short hair and i would literally never let her not be pregenant
Nah she’s just a boring basic b***h.
they ruined mandalore by making a warrior society respect women as leaders and warriors when they're always male dominated societies because women are weaklings
Cringe.
not even in KOTOR were the Mandalorians ever portrayed as female, but as men married to their armor.
gay
>italian dad
>chinese mom
holy shit what a combo
I was hoping we'd see her get reprimanded or embarrassed having to admit what she did and why she did it. Instead, we just glossed over it.
What even is the relationship between Sabine and Ezra? Didn't watch the cartoon.
they were teenage shipmates (frick buddies)
Get that mole removed
Absolutely not.
it's make-up
>survives Qui-Gon killing gut stab boiling her insides for a few seconds
Sabine had to be wearing the Mando armor to sell that as a flesh wound not hitting vital organs; pajamas was ill considered from fight choreography and wardrobe angles.
where does this mandalorian b***h get her makeup? why doesn't she wear her helmet?
this show is super gay why would anyone older than 12 watch this shit?
Yoink!
this fricking b***h is wearing makeup UNDER HER HELMET.
also why is her hair purple? that better be a natural mandalorian hair color.
She's a creative galaxy famous grafitti artist who also paints her armor and ship different colors
it would be hot if he stripped the rest of her armor and clothes off too. Forced unmaskings are hot. .
>it would be hot if he stripped the rest of her armor and clothes off too. Forced unmaskings are hot. .
Ok now this is based.
>this fricking b***h is wearing makeup UNDER HER HELMET
considering she always has perfect makeup on no matter the situation the helmet itself must be applying it.
she dyes her hair and does makeup and paints her armor, thats the point of the character
Mandos should have invented chinstraps
wow they gave her the helmet for the fighting and then they removed it again for the scene so the y would see the actors face because you constantly have to see the actor. and because they are so utterly lacking in any skill or foresight they saw nothing wrong with breaking physics for it.
I bet none of them ever threw themselves against something with a helmet on once, something which takes a minute MAX, to see if it's possible and spending those couple ten thousand dollars is necessary.
You know, she could've just taken off the helmet herself. It's just as stupid as shooting it off her head with cgi.
Most movies and shows do this it isn’t unique to Star Wars
>because you constantly have to see the actor
uhhh anon?
That cut switch from double to actress is so ugh
I wonder if her double is still a guy tho
Disney is always taking the helmets off.
They're both basically the same character.
Sabine is a snotty brat. Rey is practically perfect in every way and beloved by everyone who meets her instantly. Apart from that, they are basically the same.
At least Sabine being a brat is her downfall in some ways. Sure, the show may have glossed over the fact that she enabled the return of Thrawn, but there will be consequences for that in the future. …If they aren’t total morons…
Disney Thrawn is a mega jobber.
I’m hoping you’re wrong.
But part of the problem is Disney has basically made any woman dying a “no-no” based on what I’ve seen. In the same franchise where we saw Seventh Sister decapitated by Maul.
They’re on their moronic “girl power” bender which is a problem because most of the “Rebels” crew is women so Thrawn probably won’t be allowed to kill any of them. Which means the “consequences” will be minimal, or be something I don’t even give a shit about, or worse, disastrous (I.E., they moronicly kill someone like Ezra or Boba Fett).
yeah completely unkillable women like morgan elsbeth for example
It's okay if it's by a woman.
It’s okay if it’s by a woman, and she has to be evil.
Name three non-evil Star Wars females who have died since Disney took over.
They didn’t even kill Reva.
Leia doesn’t count because Carrie Fischer died and her death was played up as heroic even though she just died of old age or something.
that one b***h who rammed her ship into a star destroyer
rose's way hotter sister
uhh....
Admiral Holdo
THE FORCE IS FEMALE
I'm just waiting for someone to make the edit where she tries to push Ezra with the force, predictably fails, and he falls to his death
There is no other fandom filled with so much "OC DONUT STEEL" characters.
Sonic is less cringey than this shit.
It's Filoni's fault. Lucas created good lead characters with flaws who weren't Mary Sues and who struggled to win.
>good lead characters with flaws who weren't Mary Sues and who struggled to win.
literal definition of sabine and ahsoka
>literal definition of sabine and ahsoka
they aren't good lead characters, they are both emotionless and boring.
Unlike rey I'd like to violently rape this b***h
a....a.... space princess in MY star wars??? One that turns out to have latent force abilities??? FRICKING DISNEY
Remember when Obi-wan had to try like hell to lift lil lei like it was the greatest feat in the history of the galaxy, for him a jedi Master?
Yeah well this chick who finally had the force kick in 60 seconds ago can throw a 150 pound pajeet 200 feet in the air.
Obi-wan was specifically in terrible shape and out of touch with the Force, it was an entire thing
Later when he had his game back he threw a hundred boulders at Anakin like it was nothing
you forgot
>saves erza multiple times in finale
>can use the force to predict and deflect blaster shots like a jedi master
>can suddenly force push a grown man 50 feet into the air from 100 feet away after struggling with basic small object manipulation all season
>saves erza multiple times in finale
She's being training and fighting as a warrior a lot longer than him
>can use the force to predict and deflect blaster shots like a jedi master
basic jedi skill Luke learned in 5 minutes
>can suddenly force push a grown man 50 feet into the air from 100 feet away after struggling with basic small object manipulation all season
"Size matters not", Jedi 101
>basic jedi skill Luke learned in 5 minutes
Sabine is also visibly much worse at it than Ahsoka and Ezra. You can see her losing ground against the zombie troopers until Ahsoka tells her to switch to guns.
>basic jedi skill Luke learned in 5 minutes
luke was the son of literal force jesus moron of course he could pick things up quick, his midichlorian count would be ridiculous like his father's
sabine had no power all season and most of her life (and failed to move anything with the force right up until episode 8) but now she's super duper strong and can hurl men 500 ft into the air with no effort (despite even ahsoka being barely able to slam shin into the rock fighting baylan)
if you wanna make luke comparisons it took him months of training with yoda, the greatest jedi master of their generation, to barely nudge the x wing when we tried, yet sabine just pulled it off ez no problem out of nowhere
it sucked and was dogshit writing done for spectacle (that was completely unecessary just let erza do the jump) and you should stop trying to defend it
what a terribly choreographed fight. in the first couple seconds alone it looks like it's on half-speed and it's incredibly obvious they're just aiming for each other's sword.
why the frick is it so hard for these people to have a single lightsaber fight that makes sense and looks good? I feel like I could design a better fight myself with not nearly the amount of resources Yidsney has.
I felt the same way about the sequel trilogy, in that era where there's no longer an "academy" or formal sources of training and it's all just knowledge passed down from master to student, lightsaber combat should have been more crude and brutal, complete with punches and shit. I still think the moronic "forms" of lightsaber combat didn't make sense either.
Episode 8 has the worst choreography in all of Star Wars. That episode was good in comparison. Sabine spins slowly and stops swinging right past a stormtrooper's shoulder, carries through with the motion while clearly not touching the stormtrooper with her lightsaber, then they put the burn right down the middle of the guy's back. It's so fricking bad, you can watch her slow down before every instance where she's slashing someone with her lightsaber. Comically bad and everyone involved should be ashamed.
union workers
that's why everything has sucked since the prequels
some shitty union fight choreographer who's never done any sort of weapons training whatsoever planned it no doubt
damn Shin is so fricking cute, it's been a long time I're seen cute and well designed character in western media. The actor doing a good job potraying her as a frail broken character.
>I can save her!
I love my wife Shin
Once again Netflix absolutely mogs disney fight scenes
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1697494938857201770
All shitsoka shills deserve the rope
>I got no argument
thought so
Can we see the training? Why are the Sabine and Ezra scenes so much worse than the other actors?
>Can we see the training
In the cartoon Aladdin is a random street rat while Sabine is already a fully fledged warrior doing things that seem Jedi like and having a Jedi as one of her mentors. It's actually amazing it took this long to show her using obvious force powers. Her using the force makes everything she's done less Mary Sueish not more. It is literally the most well written part of this mid filler series.
yes yes but now she can force push a fully grown man 1000ft into the air with no effort
it didn't even tire her out at all
remember when baby yoda completely passed out after lifting the space bull in mando? too ez for sabine
Why can't I get a good sense of how much time has passed in this show? Elsbeth says it will take 3 days to load the cargo and the journey only took a few days right?
>have you been keeping up on your training?
It's only been a week. Why is she asking Sabine this?
How did she go from being fairly attractive to like a 4/10 after cutting her hair. They fricked up the whole character.
This but in reverse. The short hair is sexo. Makes her face pop.
She's way hotter with long hair. She looks like a fat little boy with short hair.
Every female character they introduce is a bigger Mary Sue than the last
Daily reminder ur a consoomer manchild if ur still watching basedwars
Sabine got her shit kicked in several times, so no she's not more Mary Sue than Rey.
Sounds like the quick rundown on the Bogdanoffs.
>Is Sabine a bigger Mary Sue than Rey?
I don't like random people developing force powers so late in life. Especially when they are already capable with their own skillset like Sabine being a fricking Mandalorian warrior.
I guess It makes sense in a way, but I don't like when it happens to a character and it feels like an afterthought to make an existing character more interesting.
The Jedi's "too old to learn" thing was specifically them being moronic and short sighted, my man.
I'm talking about people that are around other jedi for several years and then suddenly when they pop up in a different show they are now force-sensitive. The only respect in which I could foresee it making sense is with a program that is more akin to X-Com developing psykinetic abilities in existing operatives.
>I don't like random people developing force powers so late in life. Especially when they are already capable with their own skillset like Sabine being a fricking Mandalorian warrior.
A mandalorian warrior who is also a space princess, a super genius weapons engineer and an artist who is famous across the galaxy for her graffiti.
Exactly, being force sensitive on top if it is overkill
I don't mind the idea of people like Sabine being capable of developing force powers, so long as it's not shit like MaRey Sue learning advanced techniques like the mind trick on the fly after hearing about the force for the first time a few hours ago.
But yeah, my issue is tacking on more special skills to characters already overloaded with special traits. Just because you can make a feasible explanation for your ex-empire mandalorian rebel war hero graffiti artist to also be a jedi now doesn't mean you should. Even the dark blade was always pushing the line for me.
The Darksaber just being donated to whatever Mandalorian Princess they currently want to prop up is gay as frick. Why can't we have a "good guy" that is also ambitious and wants to rule a planet while wielding a cool sword?
Frick, that was dumb. Frick Favreau. What a fricking moron.
>foreshadow obvious conflict between the two at the end of S2
>show him training with it in Bob Fat
>completely ignore that shit entirely in S3 and just have him handing it over to her
>it ends up being destroyed anyway in the most unceremonious way
FRICK YOU
S3 was supposed to be the Game of Thrones of Mandalorian, with rivalry and conflict for the throne, with conflicting ideals and ideologies. Ended up being a wet fricking fart.
The Darksaber got destroyed? WTF. Frick Kennedy. Frick Filoni. Lucas Wars is the only real Star Wars.
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Witness this sheer moronation.
Man that looked awful
Welp makes me glad I didnt bother watching season 3
Why build up this legendary Darksaber for several seasons of Rebels and Mandolorian only to destroy it moronicly? What's the point? Why?
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And Clone Wars as well. It was introduced in season 2
I remember I was in elementary school when this episode came out. I hadn't seen it yet but my friend told me there was a cool new black lightsaber in clone wars and I thought it was the craziest shit ever. Now they just destroyed it for literally no reason and I guess it just never served any purpose whatsoever the entire time lmao. Something like thirteen or fourteen years of build up and hand-changing between major characters for it to ultimately be worthless
Deathwatch was stupid, though
>turbo tryhard edgy name
>mediocre design
>fierce warrior culture plays simp for the empire just so you can call them bad guys
Wouldn't a faction of Mandalorians which are tribal and backwards but a useful tool against the empire be more interesting than a bunch of progressive female aristocrats trying to turn Mandalore into the Republic?
warrior culture plays simp for the empire just so you can call them bad guys
Don't care, anything after TCW is not canon. It was cool and it made Mandalore cool
The Maulorians briefly made Mandalore cool again.
Nah, TCW ain't canon either. Most everything after 2008 is garbage except for a few things like Plagueis and the KotOR comics.
George had a heavy hand in TCW, it is canon and all else is cope
George had a heavy hand in the Holiday Special and the Ewok films, too. You can cope.
>Ewok films
The what?
You heard me.
I actually watched this as a kid and the whole memory feels like one big fever dream
>I remember I was in elementary school when this episode came out. I hadn't seen it yet but my friend told me there was a cool new black lightsaber in clone wars and I thought it was the craziest shit ever. Now they just destroyed it for literally no reason and I guess it just never served any purpose whatsoever the entire time lmao. Something like thirteen or fourteen years of build up and hand-changing between major characters for it to ultimately be worthless
Yeah the Darksaber was moronic. I can't imagine why they'd break it, unless the plan is for S4 of mando to be all about fixing the stupid darksaber and in the end Bo Katan passes it down to Sabine or Din Djarin. Otherwise why hype the dark saber up for so many years only to break it unceremoniously and moronicly?
Because they're always trying crazy stuff to get people talking about, that's all star wars is now
>shoehorn anakin into this show to teach some lesson about ???? who cares look its the clone troopers and darth vader's here too!
>we've got a quota to fulfill of deaths in the sequels luke died of forcing too hard oh whoa how crazy
holy shit I'm so glad I only ever watched one episode of this garbage.
Lmao they destroyed the darksaber? What a stupid fricking idea
Yeah I wanted it to be a brawl where Bo Katan beat up Din and left him for dead, then Boba Fett avenges Din and becomes Mandalore.
But Filoni plays it too safe and Bo Katan wasn’t allowed to lose.
>But Filoni plays it too safe and Bo Katan wasn’t allowed to lose.
Deathwatch turns heel and joins Empire. Walla. She's still girlboss of something. Play into Jango being the son of they guy that literally avenged millenia of grudges against the Jedi since Reven & co.
It doesn't make sense in any way. At all. She's a Force moron but in the span of 45 seconds she went from having zero Force sensitivity to being more powerful than fricking Luke Skywalker.
she looks like she's about to lecture you about colonialism and white privilege
She's a 2015 feminist, so probably
She could lecture me about anything.
The Force is Female Incel the First Jedi was a Woman and Rey will Restore the Jedi Order again
>no more comfy Lone Wolf & Cub adventures with Mando and Baby Yeed as they wander a galaxy filled with haram bringing the light of Mandalore to the infidels inshallah
Feels bad man
we got immediately robbed of the one thing that made the mandalorian interesting
after the show blew up, they ham-fisted all the filoni characters and big plot in right away
I just wanted more comfy low-stakes adventures across the galaxy with mando and yeed
Do you think filoni sabotaged and backstabbing Favreau, or is that what Favreau wanted?
Mandalorian S1 & S2 were filmed back to back. S2 was written and being filmed before S1 was even released. Anyone saying that "they hamfisted shit from bigger lore when it blew up" is a moron. S3, however, was fricked because of Gina Carano and the cancellation of the new republic show, Boba Fett undid previous 2 seasons of the show, and then it was all ogre.
homies rly expect me to watch a cartoon from 08 to know wtf this b***h is? lmfaooo
All the characters are made for 10 year olds, they aren't super complicated or cryptic.
Ezra
>Luke but thief instead of farmer
Sabine
>Girlboss
Hera
>Girlboss but Twilek
Thrawn
>Evil smart man
Et cetera.
user
Filoni is such a fricking hack
>Is Sabine a bigger Mary Sue than Rey?
I don't know, I don't watch any of this but I approve of hapas being posted.
>not only did 0 jedi die during order 66 but also people just magically get force powers out of nowhere too
k. i'll probably watch this shit in a few years when i stumble across it and i've hit the absolute bottom of the barrel.
99% of the Jedi died, that left a number in the 100's or so alive.
Straight from George.
>Straight from George
Doesn't make it any less stupid. So there were 10,000 Jedi running around during the old republic? Kind of undermines the uniqueness of Jedi and Luke being literally the only hope.
>So there were 10,000 Jedi running around during the old republic?
in a galaxy full of people that's pretty rare
I agree it does ruin the whole luke thing if any are alive past when yoda dies though
There are multiple planets in the galaxy with billions of people. Coruscant, the capital of the republic and HQ of the Jedi, by itself had 3 trillion people.
I don't pay attention to Disney garbage.
Star Wars is trash and has always been trash. Even insofar as escapism goes, there are far better forms of escapism. Move on and realise you were briefly enticed to look back at something you loved as a young child by one of the most cynical, multi-faceted, well funded media operations in existence.
>There are 2 Siths and also old Empire remanents have gottan a map to find General Thraw, Also we were ambushed by Empire loyalist in a ship factory, Should we call New Republic and General Skywalker about this new events?
>Nah lets just go on a few man adventure also taking my kid with me to a dangerous daily situation because lol
>*Ashoka crosses her arms and smiles*
i don't even see how thrawn is a a threat. vader was literally ripping ships out of the sky in the obi-wan show if luke is even close to that what the frick is thrawn going to do
>Did I forget anything? Filoni needs someone who will tell him no.
I think that was Kathleen Kennedy's influence. If you watch Rebels early on Sabine really doesn't get that much attention and Ezra is clearly the main character. But in the third season Sabine starts getting Mary Sued constantly and she goes from being girl Boba Fett to also being a genius scientist even though she's just a teenager and getting lightsaber lessons to boot. Then her story wraps up and she goes back into the background like their was a directive to push her to the front that was obeyed and then they moved on.
She was fine when she was
>that webm
It was an awful movie but that scene didn't really bother me. Chewie seemed more like the mechanic and Han was just a really talented pilot.
yeah it was already established in empire Han didn't even know that much about the engineering of the Falcon and the part Rey modified was a part that was added by the junklord she worked for so I don't get why people sperged out over that scene specifically
wait so why didn't chewy ever think to baipaas dah compressah
it was decades later and Rey had modern tech
>People b***hed that prequel fight choreography was too fast and cartoony
>Reality is that the fights weren't even sped up artificially. The actors, who trained for months, were actually moving that quick
>Majority of their swings are intended to injure or kill but people mistake the quick defense as "aiming for their saber"
>Still knows when to not be full historical sword fighter and throw in silly but fun shit like Anakin's reverse flourish
>Sometimes they went too silly like the infamous Obi Wan and Anakin flourishing at each other bit
>Empire Strikes Back choreography, despite its age, is very well done for more methodical and strategic duel style, especially since one side is woefully inexperienced
>RotJ veers a little bit into bat swinging territory near the end of the fight but for the most part it's still decent
>Now in modern live action Star Wars media we have a mix of full on baseball bat swinging and moving at the pace of arthritis patients
>All while having some prequel silliness of spinning except its being done so painfully slowly that it's not even plausible
>RotJ veers a little bit into bat swinging territory near the end of the fight but for the most part it's still decent
Wasn't the whole point of the "bat swinging" part that Luke was close to losing control over his emotions which was then mirrored in his change in fighting style?
Yes, but there are ways to portray rage in a fighting style that's not making the silly swings he was throwing out. Realistically Vader should've put him down for swinging like he does near the end.
But it still does a good enough job of getting the point across without being TOO stupid, something that's sorely lacking from modern SW choreography.
>Reality is that the fights weren't even sped up artificially. The actors, who trained for months, were actually moving that quick
His questionable line delivery for Ep 2 and 3 aside, the behind the scenes docs do shine a light on how much Hayden busted his ass to succeed at the physical part of the role.
of their swings are intended to injure or kill
embarrassing cope
>silly but fun shit like Anakin's reverse flourish
>silly but fun
i hate you
Speaking of Hayden, it's funny that his voice getting a lot deeper with age has made his nu-Wars lines sound a hell of a lot closer to the Clone Wars Anakin.
That's just the direction because they're embarrassed of Hayden's prequel performance and manchildren like Clone Wars
He's obviously being directed in the attitude to be more TCW but the actual tone of his voice isn't forced, dude sounds like that irl
this show is so shit. the entire cast and most characters are shit. thrawn is not as good as he could've been. the women seem weak like old ladies, they could've at least trained them in martial arts somewhat to make the action seem real. but they just seem like feeble females the lot of them.
Other than the instant recovery from being stabbed, she's not a Mary Sue.
just because the character comes from a cartoon, for children, why does their costuming have to be just as colorful in the live action version?
i'm getting tired of this maymay
Literally who? I don't remember her from any of the movies.
dont care about rebels
its for little children
Do yo agree with the AI?
you just know the surgeon was a israelite
Given that hack job, more likely Thai
>Did I forget anything?
1. Famous Artist known throughout the Galaxy.
2. Trained Engineer
3. Famous Bounty hunter and went of adventures with other bounty hunters. So much so that she is able to call up favors from other bounty hunters that owe her.
4. Better swordsman and fighter than even Gar Saxon who is a trained Veteran of the Clone Wars
5. Explosives expert
6. Expert marksman
(Mandalorians only get basic training. They can't be experts in everything. Check the lore. They often specialize in certain weapons)
7. Somehow Achieved all of this before the Age of 14 while also being a rebel fighter with Hera and Kanan.
It's almost as if she had latent force abilities, huh?
I was very disappointed they actually let her use the force in the end
I thought it was an interesting choice to have her be a failing Jedi, she can fight with a sword but can’t do shit with her mind.
But no, now she can use the force too
Gay
she knew how to turn the circular puzzle thing and solve it
that makes sense, because she's a super genius engineer and hacker, who invented planet genociding weapons as a teenager for funsies.
Yes, but there's a remedy for that.